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Title: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on December 27, 2012, 01:32:38 PM
Was going through this Morning's Global news, ran across this and thought it be advisable too share this ASAP due to the fact our illustrious dear friend D3u3m is in a bit of a fix.
It seems as if thing's aren't going to get easier to a few of the TMT here too have our communications open und3rgr0und for communication much longer. "Or will we ?" with release of this information, I am hoping that the "Individuals" that have allowed us to remain in communication with our dear friend D3u3m and his spectacular displays of research and sciences may even get more tougher as time goes on for our und3r gr0vnd connections.
Regardless, seems significant for our forums and our friends in that part of the world.

QuoteIn a reminder of the Web's role as a political forum, a group of 70 prominent Chinese scholars and lawyers circulated an online petition this week appealing for free speech, independent courts and for the ruling party to encourage private enterprise.

QuoteThe Internet also has given the public an unusual opportunity to publicize accusations of official misconduct.

QuoteWeb surfers can circumvent government filters by using virtual private networks — software that encrypts Web traffic and is used by companies to transfer financial data and other sensitive information. But VPN users say disruptions that began in 2011 are increasing, suggesting Chinese regulators are trying to block encrypted traffic.

QuoteChinese leaders "realize there are detrimental impacts on business, especially foreign business, but they have counted the cost and think it is still worthwhile," said Lam. "There is no compromise about the political imperative of controlling the Internet."

Tightehing Interenet Controls (http://news.yahoo.com/china-tightening-controls-internet-063131160.html)

"Heads up my friends!!" ;)

1Worldwatcher
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 27, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
Thanks for the heads up, 1WW ;)

This reminds me of something i wanted to build for the Mguyver team, an undetectable EG modem ::)
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on December 27, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
Cool PWM, I had a friend who made a fortune off of the earliest of Converter for C48le services, filter device, he has also had mentioned internet tapping as well, then Wi fi came out and he now has his own Trkg bs. so no need for finance now I guess. Would be cool for the friends in need..;)

1WW
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on December 27, 2012, 09:53:04 PM
I just ran a check for blog of Matrix's wife, they are in Ch1n4 and it came back not found, so looks as if the PTB are hard at work already blocking website content and controlling the media.
Thought I would let you all know.

Maybe we can get Matrix in here to start some much appreciated closed candor over this issue and how it effects the people of that country?
"Sorry for the bad news Matrix, was hoping it was going to be different once I ran it.
tell your wife I am sorry for her as well."


1WW
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 27, 2012, 11:32:14 PM
We did it before, using RTTY programs on Commodore C64's and a CB radio...
That would work good on borders.
But i was thinking of something undetectable. There has been research in that area ;)
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 28, 2012, 04:52:21 AM
i have a theory of babalon.
in it people are forced to talk in code due to gov oppression .after a couple generations the languages are garbelled and most are paranoid of each other.
is the past repeating itself?

what are the technical difficulties that need to be corrected?
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 28, 2012, 06:09:45 AM
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on December 27, 2012, 09:53:04 PM
I just ran a check for blog of Matrix's wife, they are in Ch1n4 and it came back not found, so looks as if the PTB are hard at work already blocking website content and controlling the media.
Thought I would let you all know.

Maybe we can get Matrix in here to start some much appreciated closed candor over this issue and how it effects the people of that country?
"Sorry for the bad news Matrix, was hoping it was going to be different once I ran it.
tell your wife I am sorry for her as well."


1WW

No need to be sorry... LOL...  The Site is certainly NOT Blocked...

Perhaps it is an American Security issue, and NOT a Chinese Issue.

I have been viewing it myself through the net. in the last few minutes...

The web address is...

yaoyanqing.blog.163.com


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XCxVQ13WLps/UN013mStllI/AAAAAAAADt0/LuA9H7987fc/s713/web%2520site.jpg)


But the "Translation" by Google is totally useless.

NO Block on this site.


I can provide "Screen Prints" of the pages to prove it.

But anyone can check this site out anyway.

I spent more than 9 months living in China, and never found any "Freedom of Speech" Problems whatsoever.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 28, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
Greetings to all Ascended Beings... so nice to see all of us made it!

We, too, have no problem accessing that site:


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16%20December%20to%2031%20Dec%202012/matrixChina600.png) (http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16%20December%20to%2031%20Dec%202012/matrixChinaFULL.png)


(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16%20December%20to%2031%20Dec%202012/matrixChinaEnglish600.png) (http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16%20December%20to%2031%20Dec%202012/matrixChinaEnglishFULL.png)

Peace Love Light

tfw
   (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/lg50aa500a.gif) (//http://)

Liberty & Equality or Revolution



Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 28, 2012, 05:21:49 PM
drudge is talking about it this morning.

just my opinion,i think this is the run up to something big by the usa.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: sky otter on December 28, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20857480
28 December 2012 Last updated at 07:58 ET
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2.4KShareFacebookTwitter.China approves tighter rules on internet access

Hundreds of millions of people in China use the internet, although its content is closely monitored by the authorities
The move is part of a package of measures which state-run Xinhua news agency said would protect personal information.

But critics believe the government is trying to limit freedom of speech.

The announcement will be seen as evidence China's new leadership views the internet as a threat.

The Chinese authorities closely monitor internet content that crosses its borders and regularly block sensitive stories through use of what is known as the Great Firewall of China.

However, it has not stopped hundreds of millions of Chinese using the internet, many of them using micro-blogging sites to expose, debate and campaign on issues of national interest.

In recent months, the internet and social media have been used to orchestrate mass protests and a number of corrupt Communist Party officials have been exposed by individuals posting criticisms on the internet.

The new measures come a month after a new leadership, led by Xi Jinping, was installed by the ruling Communist Party.

The new man in charge of the internet, Liu Qibao, has a reputation for taking a hard line on media control. He recently called for "more research on how to strengthen the construction, operation and management of the Internet and promote mainstream online themes".

'Safeguards'

The new measures now formally require anyone signing agreements to access the internet, fixed-line telephone and mobile devices to provide network service operators with "genuine identification information", known as real-name registration, Xinhua reports.

Real-name registration was supposed to be have been implemented in 2011 but was not widely enforced.

China's biggest internet firm, Sina Corp, warned earlier this year in a public document that such a move would "severely reduce" traffic to its hugely-successful micro-blogging site Weibo, China's equivalent to Twitter with more than 300 million users.

Under the new rules, network service providers will also be required to "instantly stop the transmission of illegal information once it is spotted" by deleting the posts and saving the records "before reporting to supervisory authorities".

The measures are designed to "ensure internet information security, safeguard the lawful rights and interests of citizens... and safeguard national security and social public interests", and were approved by China's top legislature at the closing session of a five-day meeting on Friday, Xinhua reports.

The calls for tighter controls of the internet have been led by state media, which said that rumours spread on the web could harm the public and sow chaos and confusion.

The government has said officially that it welcomes the exposure of official abuses, but a new generation of ever bolder bloggers and commentators pose a threat that the leadership seems determined to counter, the BBC's Charles Scanlon reports.


also at this link...more linnks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20857480

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/china-real-name-registration_n_2373808.html?utm_hp_ref=technology

China Real-Name Registration Is Now Law In Country
AP  |  By By JOE McDONALD
Posted: 12/28/2012 3:25 am EST  |  Updated: 12/28/2012 9:19 am EST


BEIJING (AP) — China's government tightened Internet controls Friday with approval of a law that requires users to register their names after a flood of online complaints about official abuses rattled Communist Party leaders.

Authorities say the law will strengthen protections for personal information. But it also is likely to curtail the Internet's status as a forum to complain about the government or publicize corruption.

"Their intention is very clear: It is to take back that bit of space for public opinion, that freedom of speech hundreds of millions of Chinese Internet users have strived for," said Murong Xuecun, a prominent Chinese writer.

The rules approved by China's national legislature highlight the chronic tension between the ruling Communist Party's desire to reap technology's benefits and its insistence on controlling information.

Beijing encourages Web use for business and education but tries to block material deemed subversive or obscene. It has steadily stepped up censorship, especially after social media played a role in protests that brought down governments in Egypt and Tunisia.

The latest measure requires users to provide their real names and other identifying information when they register with access providers or post information publicly.

"This is needed for the healthy development of the Internet," said Li Fei, deputy director of the legislature's Legal Work Committee, at a news conference.

Li rejected complaints that the public will be deprived of a forum that has been used to expose misconduct.

"The country's constitution protects citizens' rights in supervising and criticizing the state and government officials' behavior," Li said.

The measure comes amid reports that Beijing might be disrupting use of software that allows Web surfers to see sites abroad that are blocked by its extensive filters.

At the same time, regulators have proposed rules that would bar foreign companies from distributing books, news, music and other material online in China.

The government has given no indication how it will deal with the technical challenge of registering the more than 500 million Chinese who use the Internet.

Microblog operators, two of which say they have more than 300 million users each, were ordered last year to confirm the identities of users but acknowledge they have yet to complete that task.

The main ruling party newspaper, People's Daily, has called weeks for tighter Internet controls, saying rumors spread online have harmed the public.

The secretive ruling party is uneasy about the public's eagerness to discuss politics and sensitive issues online despite threats of punishment.

In March, authorities scrambled to squelch online rumors about a possible coup amid a political crisis that led to the downfall of a prominent party figure, Bo Xilai, ahead of the party's fall leadership transition. A dozen websites were closed and six people detained.

This week, 70 prominent Chinese scholars and lawyers circulated an online petition this week appealing for free speech, independent courts and for the ruling party to encourage private enterprise.

Communist leaders who see the Internet as a promising source of economic growth were slow to enforce the same level of control they impose on movies, books and other media, apparently for fear of hurting e-commerce and other fledgling online businesses.

Until recently, Web surfers could post anonymous comments online or on microblogs.

That gave ordinary Chinese a unique opportunity to express themselves to a public audience in a society where newspapers, television and other media all are state-controlled. Some of the most popular microbloggers have millions of readers.

It also made the Internet a clearinghouse for accusations of official misconduct.

A local party official in China's southwest was fired in November after scenes from a videotape of him having sex with a young woman spread quickly on websites.

Web surfers can circumvent filters by using virtual private networks — encryption software that is used by companies for financial data and other sensitive information. But VPN users say disruptions began in 2011 and are increasing, suggesting regulators are trying to block encrypted traffic.

___

AP researcher Flora Ji contributed.



Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 28, 2012, 07:47:52 PM
Hi thorfourwinds,

Thank you for presenting Evidence regarding access to my wife's blog in China.

Looks like there are no issues with this in the U.S. either, good to see.

The Translation by Google is way off, very strange...
But I understand Chinese is Not an easy language to translate at times esp. some subjects
involving Technical information and subjects relating to the Mind.

I guess it involves human interpretation involving interpretations and differing beliefs ?

As they are in a single Culture, let alone the differences between different cultures.

Just as well the Information is NOT lost in the Drawings, which tell the story themselves.

Many who have made more enquiry from China, (From a Scientific background)
also write in English, allowing me to explain in English, making things a little easier.

The gov. in NZ have also tightened regs. involving the net esp. around copy rights
and reducing undesirable behaviour on the net..  Good too see.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on December 28, 2012, 08:06:30 PM
Quick confession here folks, I had tried to access Matrix Blog area with wrong URL link...LOL Matrix resent the proper one and this seems to work, AL be-it with translator from Google too be installed, "No thanks" bu either way, wanted a too apologize for first mistake of posting it wasn't viewable, it is, but with conditions...lol  ::)

Thanks so much Sky and TFW for your posts, it is very relevant for us I guess too not understand the world in other places as we discuss this here, very important for Matrix and others that are with in the region of the globe too set us straight on what is what. Wasn't trying to spread hype, was just trying to let our global friends with in this area of the possible up and coming events of not being able too share with us for a time being.

Now, "If we can get Z to blast off that private satellite, we won't need the mainframe of the Internet any more.." LOL

With Great Respects,
1Worldwatcher
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 28, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
China Passes Law Legalizing Deletion Of Internet Posts Or Pages Containing "Illegal" Information
Quote
"When people exercise their rights, including the right to use the Internet, they must do so in accordance with the law and constitution, and not harm the legal rights of the state, society ... or other citizens," he told a news conference.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/china-passes-law-legalizing-deletion-of-internet-posts-or-pages-containing-illegal-information.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/china-passes-law-legalizing-deletion-of-internet-posts-or-pages-containing-illegal-information.html)
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 28, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
QuoteA local party official in China's southwest was fired in November after scenes from a videotape of him having sex with a young woman spread quickly on websites.
OOops, you mean our incorruptible leaders are corrupt?
Or the fact that they have a sex life at all is amazing, i s'pose... ;)

QuoteWeb surfers can circumvent filters by using virtual private networks — encryption software that is used by companies for financial data and other sensitive information.

They can also use software like Onion.....

In the case of D3u3m, i think that talented people doing research & not rocking the boat should be allowed full access. Of course that may never happen, but there are many ways to bypass the servers, i.e. by talking directly to the satellite, i've seen it done (yes AT&T i mean you :P ).
Let's hope that some sense will prevail, even amongst the hard-liners.

Hi Matrix :)
QuoteLooks like there are no issues with this in the U.S. either, good to see.

None here either, let sleeping dogs lie ;)
QuoteThe Translation by Google is way off, very strange...
Babelfish is better.

1WW;
QuoteNow, "If we can get Z to blast off that private satellite, we won't need the mainframe of the Internet any more.."

PRC-1?
Cool.
Like the new avatar BTW. Is that called 'galactic-alignment-gamma-ray-melts-eastern-europe.GIF?

Maybe we could always hijack a sat. like ATT or Oscar 3 LOL
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 28, 2012, 09:43:33 PM
It would appear most Countries are Tidying up their act, regarding controls on the Internet.

Could help to stop a lot of suicides in young people on the net ?
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 28, 2012, 09:49:32 PM
Well, we always knew the 'net was a double-edged sword.

i guess if you had to compare the amount of useful traffic, like information, and the amount of sensless/debasing stuff like porn, gangsta music videos, psycho horror movies etc i'd say it was 100:1 in favour of the bad stuff  >:(

Yes that makes me angry, there is soo much good stuff on the 'net, but you have to work hard to find it.

I guess the 'net is a reflection of life itself.....
Lost in thought there.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 28, 2012, 10:21:49 PM
lol, idiots think they can police a billion people.
trash in trash out.
servers burning up terrawatts on useless info.
make a bunch of virus bots printing china bad over and over to infinity.
release the bots into the system before id becomes totally inforcible.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: zorgon on December 28, 2012, 10:24:36 PM
idiots they may be..

but CONTROL they have.

They may not be able to block what WE see but they can certainly put the lock on inside...

Just got this yesterday from Deuem:

I don't know if you have kept up on the blocking here but they have started making it public knowledge. Even my Yahoo is now 50% blocked. It won't be long for this sites email fails. I feel the slow down is working now. They start by turning sites reaction time down. Most people think it is connection problems and move on. Sneaky but effective. Turn it down 1 or 2% a day. Ween the baby. For some reason, last week I got on for a few minutes and was able to leave a message. A moment later I was tossed off. I see I am still logged on. Maybe that looks false. I am not. I hope you won some bets on the end of the world countdown. We are all still here. If you were here and saw the weather you might have been a little worried. It was like night time all day with a weird look to the sky. Had it again today. Simple explanation. Pollution...

Have a good New Years, Say hi to the gang...
Retired to the sidelines, Deuem


Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: zorgon on December 28, 2012, 10:27:24 PM
I will share a few more emails from him as he cannot post or access the forum;

DEUEM wrote:
I will try the vp tunnel. You see with out a proxie you can not see other proxies, they are all blocked.

Zorgon;
Ah well I can send you a list pf proxy links if that will help


If you can send it I will try.

My service thinks if they can ping the next town over and get a high number they have done their job. I told them if I wanted anyone in the next town I would just go there. I have now refused to pay them so I guess I will be cut off soon. To me it seems that they have over sold the wires by 1,000 percent. If I get on line at 3am it is all fine. The school across the street has now added over 10,000 net plugs to the overloaded line. They mostly net local China or worse they all use the cam phones. So all the bandwidth is sucked up. Now they play the GB game. At 1gb I could watch 6 movies on line at once. Now I can not watch even one and I am at 6gb. With 6gb it should be done before I start. Basicaly the only thing they know how to do is to collect money. Either all of that or they have a wire that is now down to one strand. They use the phone lines with the very small thin wires. They mount it to the building with knots in the wire attached to anything.

Deuem
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: zorgon on December 28, 2012, 10:28:30 PM
With the elec tion of the new g o v here, all url links with the word "For um" in it have been ban ned. I don't know if this is forever but I would guess so. They are stopping any activity they can not control. Now what fears they have, I don't know. As you know some for ums are very bad and talk about the worst of things.

All my friends with paid tunnels have the same problem. One with the lexis forum. It is also shut down.

Any back doors? with out the word for um.  If not then it was a fun ride while it lasted.

By the way, this email site I use was also ban ned for new members. I only can get in because I had a password from before. I don't know if they will kill that also.

Fun days ahead.

Deuem
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: zorgon on December 28, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
Hi Ron, the word blo g was been ba nned long before for ums. They have been off line for at least 5 or more years, maybe longer.  I don't know if this is an easy thing or very hard. Just need the fo rum page without that word. Call it anything. You know if you tried it I would be the only one on it so you could watch me.

I did get on yesterday with my best prox until I hit something and the page refreshed and the URL took over and I went off line. This is what the world has to look forward too. It is instant Ron. And as I say, they don't even have the balls to put up a page telling you. So everyone is guessing on what happened. Line speed, bad connection or so on. We have put computers side by side and watched the difference.

But in country, speed is there, and very fast, yet all sites are well controlled. Everybody is afraid of everybody now a days. Hey I see you have 4 more years of that guy agian. by the time he is over the states will be the same. All articles of the election and after were also taken off line and you got sent to the dungen if you clicked on one. I just read that they are passing a bill that allows them to look at every email with no wa rr ents. They do your phone and text now, so they need your email next. I guess they have nothing else to do.

Take care, Deuem


For your info the spelling errors are deliberate so his emails get through. I had to use a similar methods when using certain words or phrases at ATS (yes they DO robo snoop and block u2u's :P )
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: zorgon on December 28, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
Hi Ron, The forum site AA or Alien Anomalies uses the URL name "activeboard" and I have no problems getting on line. Even without a proxie. HUM?  http://alienanomalies.activeboard.com/

So your not only being blocked but add banned to the list from here.  I wonder how the rest of the locals are getting on line with you. Thor was saying his area got hit many times from China. Do you know how they do it?


Deuem


So effectively Pegasus and LivingMoon are blocked in China. I knew this before. We are also blocked in Iran and Pakistan... those two I also know for certain but people in both those countries were able to use a proxy to view the sites

Point is we are NOT being seen in those three nations for certain and who knows how many others. The Google analytics world map shows no traffic in many countries. Even ATS has this issue

Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 28, 2012, 10:40:58 PM
heck,the unlimited internet service on my straighttalk phone is like that and im here in texas.
looks like china is going to kill the www.

like spoiled little children,well take your toys and go home baby.
i think they call it isolationism and the usa is doing it to.
my visa debit card got blocked from buying products from great britain last month.
the excuse was the feds are trying to stop terrorism.
so turn up the pressure until the system blows and all the pensioners and trust fund babies get let holding the bag.

as long as we have half the population on the dole ,we use them to justify the govs existence. because we dont want granny and the disabled vets to lose their checks.

notice how russia hasnt said nuttin about anything for a while.
i wonder how they view china in these weird times.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 28, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
Sounds bad, Z...
We really need a radio net-link. I'm sure there's plenty of smart people both here & there who could do it....
Give our regards to D3u3m, tell him we miss him at PRC.
Later.....
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 28, 2012, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 28, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
Sounds bad, Z...
We really need a radio net-link. I'm sure there's plenty of smart people both here & there who could do it....
Give our regards to D3u3m, tell him we miss him at PRC.
Later.....

Maybe a teamspeak channel could work...We used to run game servers with comms using this for years. There is even a module for Nuke PhP that shows when clients are on and could be viewed on the sidebar.


http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads (http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads)

http://www.teamspeak3.biz/2010/07/phpnuke-teamspeak-3-block/ (http://www.teamspeak3.biz/2010/07/phpnuke-teamspeak-3-block/)
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 28, 2012, 11:26:53 PM
drudge mobile is currently down.
chinese hackers?
better watch it z.we may be next.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on December 29, 2012, 04:48:33 AM
I am starting to really think a long the lines of SW inter net wireless tech here. I am a big fan of SW bandwidths, hear everything thing from anywhere, now if we can see if PWM, LE, Z, TheJanitor, Back, TMT and a few others here can get it put together.

The brains are here, I just don't want D3u3m too pay the price for us missing his company, when this goes down, especially here in the U s A there is going to be an uprising, but the trickle effect is what they are doing , I am sure, taking little pieces at a time.

There has too be a better more efficient way to keep him on, and others, but absolutely wireless. Any ideas PWM, LE?

Will be something if we can folks.

1Worldwatcher
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 29, 2012, 09:41:23 AM
back in the nineties there were two encryption systems out there .
one was pgp and i dont remember the other ones name but i think it was from europe or the neatherlands.
anyway a story i read was the gov forced pgp to give up it key but the other company didnt because they werent american.
that other one might be the way if the key hasnt got out or was broken.
you might research cryptome on google for ideas.

laser could be used for a line of sight connection.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: Somamech on December 29, 2012, 07:39:57 PM
SO the best thing we could do is have a site mirror based in China for the Good Stuff!

Although I am hitched to Taiwan and thats another whole kettle of worms in regards to Mandarin Speaking people one thing thing is for sure...  I think there is a healthy audience for topics that have been well researched and covered on Zee Moon.  No doubt at all that spooks on all sides view the snippets some have shared and said keep an eye out for em LOL 

Are China providing a platform for Insiders to get the info out there ?   ;D

Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 29, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
We checked out re. blocking Zee Moon in China, but this site can be accessed from China and hasn't been blocked, well up until yesterday anyway.

Perhaps it may be an individual thing, but I doubt they would go to the trouble, as there are more than 4.5 billion people in China.

Probably more to do with unreliable tech.

My wife communicates with China up to a few hours a day, and she has had no problems re. being blocked etc.

As D3u3m has said; Often wiring is tied to lamp posts and buildings. And he ain't wrong...
You have to see it, to believe it.

When you see power extension cords, existing as a "twisted pair" and joining such together is done by twisting wires (220 V) together, then using insulating tape to cover the joins, then one can understand.

Often these extension cords are lying across footpaths, to chargers charging up electric cycles etc.

"Power Cuts" were the norm. as well as TV Com. cuts, which is cable in most areas.


To understand you really need to spend some months or years in China.

What D3u3m was referring to...  LOL.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A1CsNoEdlzw/UN9XpGkOiEI/AAAAAAAADv0/7mEMSDtgeTM/s640/wiring%2520tech.%252003.JPG)






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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p4QEB-_tkyk/UN44BZpkBwI/AAAAAAAADuY/9RlK9qvgRLY/s512/Power%2520Cables%2520%2526%2520%2520plumbing%252001.JPG)






and state of the art taxi services.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gwhUl-FNDOY/UN49vJqRduI/AAAAAAAADvE/b2_G7WItxdA/s640/3%2520Wheeled%2520Petrol%2520powered%2520Taxi%252001.JPG)




There is extreme poverty in China as well as in the U.S. and other Countries. But there are very beautiful areas as well...

We need to keep a balanced view, regarding other Countries and take everything into Account.

We find what we look for I guess ?

There is Corruption in every Gov. as well as in the public sector on Earth, so this must be kept in mind.

I still look forward to going back to China again, as there are many good points about this country too.

When I lived in China for more than 9 Months I used the Internet on a daily bases, connecting with western sites, and never came across this problem.

Neither did I have any issues with "Freedom of Speech", contrary to others beliefs. (outside China)
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 29, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
it may seem like 4.5 billion people but supposedly its only a billion.

as the populations continue to grow,governments become less relevent to the general populations.

there is no way to stop a seven billion people mob.like roaches,they cant control us ,only manage the chaos as it happens.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 29, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
You  are Correct robomont 1.3 billion and NOT as I quoted 4.5 billion.

I stand Corrected...   :-[    :-X

http://www.chinability.com/China%20population%20clock.htm

Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 29, 2012, 11:53:14 PM
finally, i got something right on pegasus!
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 30, 2012, 12:02:25 AM
LOL ... robomont

I do make errors myself at times (perhaps more often than others ? Not proud of this, but more  :-[ ) but if it is brought to my attention, I do check it out and correct them.   :-[
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: Pimander on December 30, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
I suggest Tor Browser.

QuoteWhat is the Tor Browser Bundle (TBB)?

The Tor software protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sites you visit, it prevents the sites you visit from learning your physical location, and it lets you access sites which are blocked.

The Tor Browser Bundle lets you use Tor on Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux without needing to install any software. It can run off a USB flash drive, comes with a pre-configured web browser to protect your anonymity, and is self-contained.
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 30, 2012, 01:21:46 PM
Tor, yes 8)
Can even be run as an app on Firefox (onion) i think Z posted a lot on that either here or on ATS (worth reading the threads over there).

Or you need something like an Amiga, which can generate fake IP addresses ten a second, it's why they are banned in the U.S.A.
::)
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 30, 2012, 03:00:00 PM
i thought tor has a backdoor or was hacked,something about onion.im not an expert. just something i thought i read somewhere.
now amiga sounds bitchen but how can it be banned.
would uncle sam take away my birthday?
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 30, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
Here's the original thread from Amateur Trolls & Spooks;
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread664550/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread664550/pg1)

Worth reading, but you have to wait for all the ads & cookies first, that was my main put-off with the site in the first place :P
That & the fact that 'g**gle adsense' tries to follow everything you post.
If you enter the word 'toothbrush' in the next thread, you will be confronted with an 'oral-B' advert ;D
Coincidence? Nah.....

On a mobile it must be even worse, allow 15 minutes for each page LOL
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: robomont on December 30, 2012, 11:30:19 PM
or worse,phone crashes and has to reboot.
Title: Re: Ch1na tightening controls on Internet
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on January 01, 2013, 07:54:17 PM
So, Tor application would allow it too freely transgress through Internet connections, attaching self imposed IP and then become revealable to source of destination intended? Very interesting , too me sounds like how 5pid3rs are used then 'Correct'?

1WW