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I didn't see this (UFO) when I snapped these consecutive photos.
What could it be?
Taken at Sabino Canyon 1/1/2013 approx. 11am —
Following photos used by permission
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Kinda brings to mind THIS one in Arizona
UFO crashes in the White Sands desert, New Mexico - Colafeed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW7JaAbd3VY
It looks like a reflection, like the one on the left.
Both are in front of the plants, both have the same relative positions.
Sure doesn't look like a cloud 8)
I remember that film, they said it was the Cassini probe :P
But if you listen carefully (to the original film), they call it 'the object'.....
You wouldn't call it that if you knew it was the probe, you would simply call it 'the probe' or 'the sattelite'.....
I have seen some clouds or photos of clouds in the past that have looked like UFOs...
to me part of the object appears fuzzy as if it may be cloud or as Artmap indicated it maybe some sort of lens reflection dependent upon what type of lens were on the camera.
Having said all that, photos 2 and 4 does look like one of the better clearer photos of a white type of plasma like UFO..
One would need to see how it moved to make a comparison...
if it just slowly drifted... and if it remained in tact or broke apart.. or if it moved quicker at some time of witnessing it.
Something else that I just noticed..
If you look at the top of the large left cactus... there appears to be some sort of cloud or image distortion coming from the cactus.
Maybe its been faked..
Yes, i see it too, missed it first time around, looks like a wisp of cloud merged in with the cactus.
I've seen lenticular (disc shaped) clouds before, but nothing quite like this.
She says she didn't notice it when she took the pics, which means it was hovering or moving very slowly.
I'm going to mark it up as 'unknown' LOL
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on January 07, 2013, 08:26:25 PM
Yes, i see it too, missed it first time around, looks like a wisp of cloud merged in with the cactus.
Yes, that's the one on the left that I was talking about on my previous post.
QuoteShe says she didn't notice it when she took the pics, which means it was hovering or moving very slowly.
Or that it existed only in the camera. :)
Unfortunately we don't have the EXIF data to know what time passed between photos and other data.
Artmap,
Sorry , I hadnt read your comment correctly or Iwas slow fully understanding you comments as you had not referred to what I later noticed..
I was thinking cloud on the cactus or that you meant lens distortion reflection..
you referred to plant , I thought it as cactus...
I can see what you meant know ! :P
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Quote from: ArMaP on January 07, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
It looks like a reflection, like the one on the left.
Both are in front of the plants, both have the same relative positions.
In the first picture, it's definitely behind the branches of the tree, so it's not a lens effect or a reflection.....
And if you compare the object's position relative to the cactus, you can see it has moved upwards, not something clouds usually do, in fact lenticular ones tend to descend.
ETA; the other clouds have moved away from the camera.
'columbus lenticuli' (i'm guessing that's what it's called) tends to appear over mountains, and there is a mountain under it ::)
Doesn't explain the wisp from the cactus, which could be an optical effect, or why that disc-shape moved upwards.
Still an 'unknown' in my book ;)
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Some good points PWM,
But I note as the Object rises upwards, so has the flaw shown on the Cactus...( what ever it maybe ! )
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on January 07, 2013, 09:32:58 PM
In the first picture, it's definitely behind the branches of the tree, so it's not a lens effect or a reflection.....
And if you compare the object's position relative to the cactus, you can see it has moved upwards, not something clouds usually do, in fact lenticular ones tend to descend.
You're right, i missed that also, probably because i have just one eye & that's -5 :P
Should i bother to re-map this & enlarge it?
Quote from: astr0144 on January 07, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
But I note as the Object rises upwards, so has the flaw shown on the Cactus...( what ever it maybe ! )
That's why I said that they have the same relative positions. :)
Right.
So maybe we should focus on the 'wisp'?
I wouldn't be a good debunker if i didn't TRY to explain all of it ;)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on January 08, 2013, 12:11:49 AM
So maybe we should focus on the 'wisp'?
I think we should focus on
everything. :)
Quote from: zorgon on January 07, 2013, 06:45:35 AM
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I didn't see this (UFO) when I snapped these consecutive photos.
What could it be?
Taken at Sabino Canyon 1/1/2013 approx. 11am —
Following photos used by permission
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I think this is a trick of the light...look at the white crescent shape on the cactus...It changed positions with the "Wisp".
That's true, but it doesn't explain the disc being behind the tree.......
IMO we should take this apart pixel by pixel..
Well, if you want to try something very cool, hold down the Ctrl button and scroll your mouse to enlarge the picture, after enlarging the picture to the point of where the object is located, it seems as if there is a physical anomaly with in it, you can see rectangular windows going to the back of the 'Tortoise' shaped craft and also seemingly a window, or view port in the very front with what seems too look like an occupant..LOL
I know , sounds crazy, but use the 'Ctrl' & 'Scroll' method, you will see what I mean when zoomed in as I had done.
There have been recorded cases of these types of UFO's even in ancient times, they also have been rendered with in Art work, namely biblical depictions of the Virgin Mary and such portraits of interest:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/mystery-2.jpg)
There have even been reports of Tortoise shaped UFO with in the Astronaut community from NASA footage, of course they won't tell you.. ;)
QuoteLeroy Gordon Cooper Jr. talks about his UFO sightings and encounters during his time in space. He also mentions his friend's encounter, when he was a commercial pilot
QuoteRobert Dean who is a command sergeant major retiree from the US Army after a 28 year career. Whilst in the military he was posted around North Korea, Vietnam and Paris... and while in Paris, he had one of the highest military clearance accesses to classified information. He had "cosmic top secret clearance".
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(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/UFO2.jpg)
Astronauts & Military Men Speak (http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/science-mysteries/ufo-astronauts-and-military-men-speak.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc
There was a particular artifact that was found with in either Aztec or Inca civilization digs, could have been Inca, am not sure. But, I know it is seemingly a Tortoise with the head of a supposed astronaut and the body of a tortoise.
Hope I don't get the boot for posting this 'Z' LOL just look at my quote under my avatar, explains everything.. Ha ha ha ;)
1WW
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on January 08, 2013, 12:54:49 AM
That's true, but it doesn't explain the disc being behind the tree.......
The "disc" is not behind the tree.
Look at the image below, comparing that tree branches with and without the "disc". Does it look behind or in front of the branches?
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/SabinoCanyonUFO_zpsf256dc51.gif)
Now that I looked more closely to the photos I could see that there are at least 3 "objects" in one photo and 4 in the other, and all look like reflections. I only noticed them when I compared both photos.
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Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on January 08, 2013, 01:00:19 AM
Well, if you want to try something very cool, hold down the Ctrl button and scroll your mouse to enlarge the picture,
Doing that you are only going to see how the browser resizes images, nothing more. All browsers (as far as I know), when resizing images, recreate the pixels in between the real pixels to try to create a better looking image, but by doing that they create their own version of the image, a version we cannot really trust, specially when the original was a JPEG image, with the associated artefacts (the famous square areas).
Quoteafter enlarging the picture to the point of where the object is located, it seems as if there is a physical anomaly with in it, you can see rectangular windows going to the back of the 'Tortoise' shaped craft and also seemingly a window, or view port in the very front with what seems too look like an occupant..LOL
I couldn't see anything rectangular. ???
QuoteThere have been recorded cases of these types of UFO's even in ancient times, they also have been rendered with in Art work, namely biblical depictions of the Virgin Mary and such portraits of interest:
Please, don't go that way if you don't know art history. I don't know much either, but I know that artists (specially those working for the church of for rich people or the state) have always had specific ways of representing things that cannot be seen, like the Holy Spirit, for example, in the same way they had specific way of representing Jesus Christ.
I haven't ever seen a UFO in a religious painting that didn't look like a symbol used by the artists.
PS: the little I know of art history is thanks to my sister, she is a painter and photographer. :)
OK Armap, ya got me :D
That's why i wanted to take a closer look, but quite frankly i don't have the time to play with images, and i'm just lazy ;)
Debunked.
Next!
Seems on retrospect, two images that were taken were taken from inside a shop, through a glass window. Nice work ArMaP.. we will call this one solved.
To PWM... I snipped a comment... see your mail 8)
Sometimes UFO research is its own worst enemy. Sometimes people make genuine errors when taking photos and after going over it a second time for a closer look, the answer comes forth.
But the goal at Pegasus is to try to encourage people, especially those with higher presumed credibility in the sciences, to come forward and present what they see, even if it turns out to be nothing more than a reflection. It is not our goal to make such people not want to ever report what they see.
But now you all have a great example for future comparison. And this should be added to the list of questions to ask first
I take it you are a researcher, so please add this question to your list. #99 Was the picture taken indoors behind a glass window? - Charla
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My comment was out of order & was quite rightfully snipped, i do apologise :-[
QuoteIt is not our goal to make such people not want to ever report what they see.
Absolutely!
Al we CAN do is look at the evidence, & give an opinion based on experience.
I would say none of us here are dumb, and if we for the most part agree on something, it's a step in the right direction.
The reason i can be so outspoken is that i don't have a reputation to lose, and it's hardly liable to affect my job.
Even so, i will try to be more.....scientific in my approach ;)