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General Category => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Eighthman on March 06, 2013, 12:41:30 AM

Title: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: Eighthman on March 06, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/holder-yep-obama-could-kill-americans-u-soil-213059085--politics.html

It's official.  The Constitution is now high grade toilet tissue.  What do you bet that few or none in Congress will even bother to protest?  Being a traitor is now in vogue.
Title: Re: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: zorgon on March 06, 2013, 02:05:36 AM
But Holder, writing to Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, underlined that Obama "has no intention" of targeting his fellow citizens with unmanned aerial vehicles and would do so only if facing "an extraordinary circumstance."

uh huh... Kent State?
Title: Re: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: sky otter on March 06, 2013, 02:36:03 AM


http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/05/17197906-holder-no-drone-strikes-in-us-except-in-extraordinary-circumstance?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

Holder refuses to rule out drone strikes in US.
except in extraordinary circumstance

i wonder who gets to say what is extraordinary....

:'(
Title: Re: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: burntheships on March 06, 2013, 03:49:41 AM
Well, my question is...

Has a policeman ever killed an innocent person with a gun?

Look at those two women who were gunned down by mistake
in the Dorner manhunt. So...the same thing will happen with drones.

Were scroomed.
Title: Re: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 06, 2013, 03:50:40 AM
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/vk5136af12.jpg)

Draganflyer X6, six-rotor remote controlled helicopter

Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/holder-yep-obama-could-kill-americans-u-soil-213059085--politics.html)
President Barack Obama has the legal authority to unleash deadly force—such as drone strikes—against Americans on U.S. soil without first putting them on trial, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote in a letter released Tuesday.

But Holder, writing to Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, underlined that Obama
"has no intention"
of targeting his fellow citizens with unmanned aerial vehicles and

would do so only if facing
"an extraordinary circumstance".


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fc5136b901.png)


Paul had asked the Obama administration on Feb. 20 whether the president "has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil and without trial." On Tuesday, he denounced Holder's response as "frightening" and "an affront to the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans."

"The U.S. government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so," Holder assured Paul in the March 4, 2013 letter. The attorney general also underlined that "we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat."


Which brings us to this:


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/cp5136ba1c.jpg)

Latest Homeland Security Armored Vehicle (http://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/latest-homeland-security-vehicle-street-sweeper/)


The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these 'Mine Resistant Protected' vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

The new DHS sanctioned 'Street Sweeper' (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gs5136ba4a.jpg)


From Navistar Defense:
The International® MaxxPro® is Navistar Defense's Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle and incorporates the latest design in armoring technology. Extensively tested by the military and used in theater today, the MaxxPro features a V-shaped hull and other design features that greatly improve survivability. With so much protection, it's the vehicle that every crew wants when they're out in the field.

MaxxPro® MRAP specifications:
Length: 254" (21.2 feet)
Width: 102" (8.5 feet)
Height: 120" (10 feet)
Wheel base: 153" (12.8 feet)
Curb weight: 37,850 lbs. (18.9 tons)
Engine: MaxxForce® 9.3

The MaxxPro MRAP is built to withstand ballistic arms fire, mine blasts, IEDs, and other emerging threats. Its V-shaped hull helps deflect blasts out and away from the crew and its armoring can be customized to meet any mission requirement.
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The installation contract retrofits 2,717 vintage MaxxPro vehicles (work performed in West Point, Mississippi) with a new rolling chassis. This chassis enhancement included the addition of the DXM™ independent suspension, a MaxxForce® 9.3 engine, and a 570 amp alternator and driveline. The work was completed at the end of May 2012.

Observations and Questions:

Why would DHS need such over-the-top vehicles on U.S. streets to withstand IEDs and mine blasts?

There are rails along the perimeter windows/gun ports to help displace the impact of RPG rounds... seems a bit much for a Police/Rescue vehicle...

They all have gun ports... Rescue vehicle?

Seriously, why would DHS need such a vehicle on our streets?

What are they expecting or preparing for?

It is a ridiculous over-the-top display of force that is meant to intimidate and associate the DHS name and logo with 'FEAR'.

Just like all that's happening with the TSA (under the wing of DHS), this is about normalization of a new way of American life.


Title: Re: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: zorgon on March 06, 2013, 04:10:31 AM
Response to Obama

"Come get some!"

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12262_173194386138259_1407581911_n.jpg)
Title: Re: President Obama Can Kill You
Post by: sky otter on March 06, 2013, 04:14:52 AM


ok.. so by some extrodinary means O gets covered in fairy dust and doesn't call in the drones
during the rest of his term
but
what about the next guy

the patriot act was the beginning

yeah BTS...Were scroomed.