FBI attempts to explain UFO memo in vault
The mystery memo (FBI.gov)
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has broken its silence on the most popular file in its digital vault.
The one-page memo, dated March 22, 1950, was addressed to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover from Guy Hottel, then head of the FBI's Washington, D.C., field office. It relayed some information from an informant.
The subject:
FLYING SAUCERS
INFORMATION CONCERNING
"An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico," Hottel writes. "They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed fliers and test pilots."
No further evaluation was attempted, Hottel reports.
The file, released in April 2011 under the Freedom of Information Act, has been viewed nearly a million times, the FBI said, in part because media outlets "erroneously reported that the FBI had posted proof of a UFO crash at Roswell, New Mexico [in 1947] and the recovery of wreckage and alien corpses."
"A bizarre memo that appears to prove that aliens did land in New Mexico prior to 1950 has been published by the FBI," the Daily Mail declared in 2011.
"The Hottel memo does not prove the existence of UFOs," the bureau said in a blog post on its website this week. "It is simply a second- or third-hand claim that we never investigated."
Besides, the FBI notes, the Hottel memo is dated nearly three years after the infamous events in Roswell in July 1947.
"There is no reason to believe the two are connected," the bureau said:
The FBI has only occasionally been involved in investigating reports of UFOs and extraterrestrials. For a few years after the Roswell incident, Director Hoover did order his agents—the request of the Air Force—verify any UFO sightings. That practice ended in July 1950, four months after the Hottel memo, suggesting that our Washington Field Office didn't think enough of that flying saucer story to look into it.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/fbi-ufo-memo-guy-hottel-151647542.html
FBI UFO Document Is The Most Popular Of All Its 'Vault' Files
By Lee Speigel Posted: 03/27/2013 6:53 pm EDT | Updated: 03/27/2013 10:07 pm EDT
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A one-page internal 63-year-old memo about a UFO report involving three alleged flying saucers and alien bodies recovered in New Mexico is making the rounds again this week. And it all started with a story that the FBI itself released.
In its own memo, titled "UFOs or No?" the FBI has informed the public that one particular memo from 1950 is the most popular file in their Vault -- an electronic reading room made available to everyone since its creation in 2011.
With nearly a million views over the past two years, the memo tells of "an unconfirmed report that the FBI never even followed up on. The file in question is a memo dated March 22, 1950 ... authored by Guy Hottel, then head of our field office in Washington, D.C. Like all memos to FBI Headquarters at that time, it was addressed to Director J. Edgar Hoover and recorded and indexed in FBI records."
The memo told a third party story of an alleged Air Force investigator who reported that three flying saucers were recovered in New Mexico.
According to the original memo and reiterated by the FBI this week, the saucers "were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed fliers and test pilots."
If this memo had already been released as part of the Vault files two years ago, why did the FBI decide to focus attention on it again this week?
A number of media stories have surfaced, claiming the Hottel memo was first released or declassified two years ago when the FBI created the Vault. This is completely untrue. Let's get the facts straight.
First, the bureau explains that this document wasn't released in 2011 -- "It was first released publicly in the late 1970s and had been posted on the FBI website for several years prior to the launch of the Vault."
Second, the Hottel memo actually was obtained in 1977 by retired U.S. Navy optical physicist Bruce Maccabee, who got it as part of 1,600 documents released to him via the Freedom of Information Act.
Also, the FBI notes that when the Vault was launched in 2011, "some media outlets noticed the Hottel memo and erroneously reported that the FBI had posted proof of a UFO crash at Roswell, New Mexico, and the recovery of wreckage and alien corpses. The resulting stories went viral, and traffic to the new Vault soared."
The bureau wants everyone to know that the memo in question was written three years after the alleged events at Roswell, with no connection between them at all.
Interestingly, right after the Vault was created and offered to the public, this reporter wrote a story about it in 2011, focusing on some evidence that had surfaced surrounding an oil scam artist who, two weeks before the Hottel memo was written, had spread stories about three crashed UFOs with aliens.
The FBI hints that some people had suggested the flying saucer-alien story was a hoax that had circulated in 1950. The bureau ends its tale saying, "Sorry, no smoking gun on UFOs. The mystery remains..."
Indeed.
bunch of embedded links with the original at this link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/27/fbi-ufo-document_n_2965993.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news
Related FOIA document from FBI -
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Hoover wrote the handwritten reply.
If the report was really an agent just hearing something (i.e. from a potentially unreliable source), then I'm surprised Hoover asked for access to the disks. The hand-written section makes it look as though Hoover had reason to think that the disks may exist. Why else would he have made such a request.
It really does seem that the FBI did not trust other agencies regarding this matter. I suspect it might be down to the fact that military intel and possibly the CIA were less than helpful with FBI investigations into the MJ-12 documents and certain other matters....
Any takers on that hypothesis?
Hoover was quite unaccustomed to being told there was something he didn't have clearance for.
Also to have any of his requests denied for any reason was also something that did not usually occur (for long).
You can tell he is quite miffed and still holds a grudge that they didn't even let him have a peek! ;D
He should have arrested every CIA agent not working on foreign intel. :P
It's funny how people think
All these years people screaming for disclosure and saying the government is denying they know about UFO's
But when the government agencies post actual UFO documents online, few take notice.
The FBI Vault is merely a new location for files that have been online for years. I have several of them posted on the website since I started
The NSA has files online since 2000, one of the best is the Tehran case
I have downloaded hundreds from the British MoD
Too bad no one is interested :P
Quote from: zorgon on March 28, 2013, 09:31:23 AM
Too bad no one is interested :P
There are three people other than you on this site who have spent years on various material like that, speaking to witnesses or reading reports and probably being fed disinfo half the time to cover up black ops. You only need to look at Dolan's work to be aware that there have been games afoot.
Something that puzzles me though is I have seen a lot of "UFO" pics and descriptions and hardly any match what myself and 2 others encountered - and not one exact picture match. We either saw something exceptionally rare, they can't be photographed or they have become invisible now that everyone has a camera on their phone and there are surveillance cameras everywhere. Alternatives are virtual reality projectors (with EM effects) or they operate on human consciousness, like Vallee says, and only have physical effects when they choose.
Since the ability to record has become common outside the military, they seem to have disappeared.... Apart from ones that could be military tests etc..... What we saw was simply impossible to explain in any way other than an intelligently build, craft that hovered, rotated and made little noise and the main effect on the environment was what felt like a powerful electromagnetic field. Crackling/hissing were the only sound and there were lights (i.e. it was visible deliberately). Where are all the sightings of these and pictures. VERY STRANGE!
I suspect my hunch I always had (gut feeling) that something stranger than just seeing an alien nuts and bolts ship happened to me is right. Stranger than fiction. :o
No mention of the Cometa files either?
Seems even the French are ahead of us at governmental transparency..hehe, isnt that fitting?
Le
I must say something that has been over looked here. In these craft that are around 50 Ft in Diameter, and 3 ETs in each craft that were 3 feet tall. Does this sound like anything we have heard before. The description of the craft everything is what Bob Lazar has said and I have been a guy who totally believed Lazar then didn't because of outside influences!!
3 Seats
3 Aliens
3 Feet Tall
The S-4 Sport model description and views by Bob Lazar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5BJIuecAmw
Sport Model 3 seats as Bob describes for peaple a third to half our size:
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My conclusion at this point is one of 2 things. Bob is telling his own truth he was there or the rumor I have heard that a scientists he knew told him this information and Bob changed a few things so the man could not be identified and Bob promised the man for life he would never tell he was Bobs source.
The craft described in the FBI memo are indeed the Sport Model crafts there is NO Douct in my mind!!!! :) 8) 8)