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Paranormal Studies => Cryptozoology - Bigfoot, Monsters and other Critters => Topic started by: Edward on March 30, 2013, 10:12:34 PM

Title: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: Edward on March 30, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
zorgon you have your Giant thread locked so I have to make a new one.

Interesting video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1yRugYZjtI



Edward
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: zorgon on March 30, 2013, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: Edward on March 30, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
zorgon you have your Giant thread locked so I have to make a new one.

Yup  library threads here are locked and stickied. The purpose of that is a) to keep all information gathers on top of the pile as reference and help people see stuff already discussed. We usually have a parallel discusion thread but not always
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 31, 2013, 02:24:50 AM
Greetings Esteemed Member Edward:


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Another Home run and GOLD ! for your valued efforts.    :)

We consider this another quality, insightful thread that requires further investigation - we're on at least four distinct trails a this time.   ;)

Thank you for bringing this video to our attention, as it certainly ties together many disparate ideas, theories and postulations in a neat package for for those who care to investigate further, as there is no way that the learned attentive reader will agree 100% with everything presented - or not.   :P

Having just watched said video, we recommend that others take the time to further their understanding of this wonderful experience we call "Life" - and we look forward to a spirited discussion with many of the points made in the video. (Come on, Matrix)   :-*

Thank you for your time, consideration and, perhaps most importantly, your participation.

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Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on March 31, 2013, 04:43:58 AM
I have watched the 1st 1/2 of the Video and will return to watch the rest.

1st thank you for the presentation Edward and the Invite thorfourwinds to contribute a little.

I LOVE this type of Research, as is claimed by some, to be deliberately hidden, from Most
on Earth !


My thoughts on this Matter is, that WE have indeed a History, which is NOT totally revealed to us today.

Re. "Giants" !

The Giants (NOT according to my Belief or any others) are recorded in Ancient writings esp. in "The Books of E'NOCH",
which Most were destroyed by the Roman church and others who were hell bent on faking our past history !

Those who know me will know I am NOT Religious so let's NOT go there.

However I love researching ancient writings.

For the Record I don't see any of these writings as religious material in spite of what some may believe.

I regard these writings as merely Historical writings...

These "Giants" were the result of "cross breeding" between reportedly 200 that came to the Earth.

Point of interest, there are those who know of a "breeding program", still taking place today.   :(   >:(

One of the reasons for the Censorship of such knowledge.

Personally I am against "Cross Breeding" with another "Species" !

Not for religious or Moral reasons.

These 200 were made up of 20 Groups (From Different Origins) of various "Aliens".

Q.      Why do I refer to them as Aliens ?
A.      Because to be able to Cross Breed they would have to be a Species within this Universe !

Ghosts and the like, can NOT "Cross breed" with the human species.

Here are some references from; "THE BOOK of E'NOCH I-XXXVI"

Quote01.   And it came to pass when the children had multiplied
that in those days were born unto them
beautiful and comely daughters.

02.   And the angels,

The word "Angel" is in fact the Incorrect Title as an "Angel" Can NOT Cross breed with a "Species"
from this Universe !

An "Angel" is a Component of The Processing System, which everything is presented through.

This is just one type of "Angel"...

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And another "Angel, which involved the "Fallen Angel", referred to in other writings such as the Greek writing,
titled "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" Reported to be Incorrectly by Academics, as an "Apocalyptic Writing",
but instead Reveals the History of The Soul Construct, and "The MAN Child". INIS

Hence the Title of the Book being "The REVELATION of Jesus Christ", i.e. to reveal the Christ
or 1st born "Soul Construct" everything i.e. "The ALL" is IN !

The writing has Nothing at all to do with the "human Species", contrary to human "Teachings" and beliefs !

In Chapter 1 & 2. of this ancient writing is described the Fall of the 7 "Stars....


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And the Call for these 7 "Stars" (6 Pointed "Stars) to Repent ! Because they had become Corrupted
or as some say Fell from Grace !

So the word Angel in the text is a misrepresentation, either through Ignorance or deliberately which is a debate in itself.

Because these "Stars" can NOT cross breed with any "Species"...   :)
As I said the Angels are in fact "Components" of a "Processing System".

Anyway to Continue with "The Book of E'NOCH" (One of the Books)... Quote;

Quotethe children of the heavens, saw and lusted after them,
and said to one another: "Come, let us chose us wives from among the children of men
and beget us children."

The Title MEN is also Incorrect  but rather the Species was A'DAM i.e. the Primate Family of A'DAM.

The Title MAN was given to the Soul Construct (A latticework forming the Processing Map
of a Processing System !

It is reported in Genesis that MAN became a Living SOUL NOT A'DAM.

These 2 have been Confused, as though being One and the Same BUT,

1.      A'DAM is a new breed of Primate
and
2.      The "Soul Construct was referred to as MAN.

So on with "The Book of E'NOCH... Quote;
   
Quote03. And Semjaza, who was their leader,
said unto them: "I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed,
and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin."

The Word "SIN" comes from the word SHIN where the "H" is Dropped, but to understand
the significance of this one needs to know ones Own "Processing System" of your Own "Soul Construct" !

The "H" is an Instruction referring to the Libraries of the Upper & Lower World (Linked by the "H"

These 2 Libraries relate to "The Running Program Libraries" in The Soul Construct.

Yes I know some will suggest that the Translation of Languages are involved, and my statement
carries no strength.

But in the course of things these writings were going to be Translated into English to reveal the Contents.

This is a Long Story to be told in another thread though.

Back to "The Book of E'NOCH" again..... Quote;

Quote04.   And they all answered him and said: "Let us all swear an oath,
and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan
but to do this thing."

05. Then sware they all together and bound themselves together
by mutual imprecations upon it.

06.   And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared
on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon,
because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

Point of Interest the Mount that is Referred to is NOT a Mountain in this Universe.

Instead the Mountain on Earth was named after the Mount where these Aliens descended onto !

Anyway on with "The Book of E'NOCH" once again..  Quote;

Quote07. And these are the names of their leaders:
Semiazaz, their leader,
Arakiba,
Rameel,
Kokabiel,
Tamiel,
Ramiel,
Danel,
Ezeqeel,
Baraqijal,
Asael,
Armaros,
Batarel,
Ananel,
Zaqiel,
Samsapeel,
Satarel,
Turel,
Jomael,
Sariel.

These Names should be written in Uppercase NOT Lower Case, as These Names refer to "Addresses"
within a "Processing System".

Note; AZAZEL is missing in the Above List of Leaders from 20 Different "Races" ?

AZAZEL was the Worst of these 20.

Quote08.   These are their chiefs of tens.

Chapter 7.

01.   And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives,
and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them
and defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantment's,
and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants.

Drugs !

Quote02.   And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants,
whose height was Three Thousand Ells:

Now the reason they grew into Giants was the result of Genetic mismatches in the Genomes !

Quote03.    Who consumed all the acquisitions of men.
And when men could no longer sustain them,

04.    The giants turned against them and devoured mankind.

Again a mistranslation !

It should have been written the Descendants of A'DAM and NOT mankind as MAN,
was the title give to the Soul Construct (Processing Construct) whereas the Title for this breed of Primate,
was A'DAM, or "the Damned One".

Quote05.     And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish,

Through "Genetic Engineering"...


Quoteand to devour one an others flesh, and drink the blood.

06.     Then the Earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: astr0144 on March 31, 2013, 05:30:51 AM
Would be very interesting indeed if this proved to be truth !
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on March 31, 2013, 05:58:48 AM
I am NOT suggesting what I am writing is Correct, as far as the writings go,
but I find it Interesting these "Ancient Writings" seem to fit closely to what I have Come to know,
too damn close to be "Coincidence".

I am looking from the other End of the "Story" and Recognising what appears to be in these Writings....

I guess Time will tell if I am Correct or Not...    :)
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on April 01, 2013, 05:16:22 AM
Note in the Book of E'NOCH, the Giants were reported to grow to Three Thousand Ells.

Quote02.   And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants,
whose height was Three Thousand Ells:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ell

An Ell is believed to be I Cubit but this I do know is the records have been Confused,
regarding what a Cubit actually is.

There are more than One measurement referred to as a Cubit !

1.      We have the Profane Cubit,
2.      The Royal Cubit
3.      The Sacred Cubit
and
4.      A Cubit, according to "the measurement of the Angel".

http://www.gizapyramid.com/cliveross3.htm

http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00276



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Talmudic_units_of_measurement
QuoteDiscrepancies of ell

For more details on this topic, see ell.

The biblical ell is closely related to the cubit, but two different factors are given in the Bible; Ezekiel's measurements imply that the ell was equal to 1 cubit plus 1 palm (Tefah),[2][3] while elsewhere in the Bible, the ell is equated with 1 cubit exactly. Ezekiel's ell, by which he gave measurements in his guided vision through a future Jerusalem Temple, is thus one sixth larger than the standard ell, for which an explanation seems to be suggested by the Book of Chronicles; the Chronicler writes that Solomon's Temple was built according to "cubits following the first measure",[4] suggesting that over the course of time the original ell was supplanted by a smaller one.[1] It seems not coincidental that the Egyptians also used two different ells, one of which — the royal ell — was a sixth larger than the common ell;[1] this royal measurement was the earlier of the two in Egyptian use, and the one which the Pyramids of the 3rd and 4th Dynasties seem to be measured in integer multiples of.[5]

The smaller of the Egyptian ells measured 450 mm, but the standard Babylonian ell, cast in stone on one of the statues of King Gudea, was 495 mm, and the larger Egyptian ell was between 525 and 528 mm.[1] The Books of Samuel portray the Temple as having a Phoenician architect, and in Phoenicia it was the Babylonian ell which was used to measure the size of parts of ships.[1] Thus scholars are uncertain whether the standard Biblical ell would have been 525 or 495 mm, but are fairly certain that it was one of these two figures.[1] From these figures for the size of a Biblical ell, that of the basic unit — the fingerbreadth (Etzba) — can be calculated to be either 22 or 21 mm; Jewish rabbinical sources[who?] approximate at either 20 mm, or according to Talmudic scholar Chazon Ish, 25 mm. The mile (Mil) is thus about 1050 or 990 m — approximately 1 km, and not equal to the modern land mile of 1760 yards (which is known as the "London Mile").

The precise width of the etzba (thumb) has been a subject of controversy among halakhic authorities. The best known is that of the Chazon Ish.


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=17256.0;wap2



Regarding "Heaven", this is often Confused with the Heavens re. Sky, Space (Universe) etc.

NOT going by belief or religion or anything else, except reading what is written
we soon discover TWO different types of Heaven were reported to have been Created.

Here is another way of understanding these not so clear and elusive text.

Please excuse me if my explanation is a bit Clumsy, as I am NO writer, by any stretch of the Imagination...  :(


Quote1.    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Simple you might think, but it's NOT that Simple !

Quote2.    And the earth was without form, and void;

This may be implying, that the Earth at this stage, did NOT exist....  i.e. Having NO "Form"

i.e. The Earth was without Form that is to say it had NO Shape, and Empty !

Quoteand darkness was upon the face of the deep.

In NO WAY, is this referring to the "Seas", as The Earth was VOID and Empty !

QuoteAnd the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

NOT the "Seas", as I have explained, suggesting the Earth was Formless and VOID.
(Having NO Shape)

Quote3.    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

LIGHT comes out of Darkness as Darkness is a Mixture of BLACK & WHITE !

Quote4.    And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Note God took the Light from "Darkness", in other words divided Darkness into
its 2 "Components" BLACK & WHITE !

Quote5.    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Note here; The order regarding the period of a Day is NOT from Morning to Night as One would assume..

But the Day here, is plainly written as from Evening to Morning ?

Quote6.    And God said, Let there be a "firmament" in the midst of the waters,
and let it divide the waters from the waters.

As I have Shown in the above text, "The Face of The Deep", could NOT, and Did NOT refer to the "Seas",
as The Earth at that stage, did NOT exist, having NO Form and was VOID !

Quote7.    And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament
from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Quote8.    And God called the firmament "Heaven".
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Again, it gives the 2nd Day, as being from Evening to Morning and NOT the other way around,
as One might expect !

Quote9.    And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place,
and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

So did dry Land come from the Waters ?

Yes that's right, the Waters that is being Referred to are NOT the "Seas", or Water most are Familiar with.

I shall explain later, if anyone is Interested ?

Quote10.    And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters
called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Both Land and Seas came OUT of the Same Waters which are NOT Sea Water or Fresh Waters.

Quote11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,
and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth:
and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind,
and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind:
and God saw that it was good.

Quote13.    And the evening and the morning were the third day.

And Once again, the Day is reported to be between the Evening and the Morning !
But I thought this was the "Night" and NOT the "Day !

Now here it comes, what we call the Heavens or Sky today.

Quote14.    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven
to divide the day from the night;
and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

So here is the 2nd kind of Heaven within or Inside the 1st Heaven.
Because before the Earth was, i.e. having NO Shape or Form and VOID, the 1st Heaven
had been Created (With NO Stars etc.)

The 1st Heaven referred to a Space or Gap between 2 "Faces"....


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/Rotating%20Plane%20&%20Separation.gif)



And the 2nd Heaven refers to what is Interpreted as our Universe, Inside the 1st Heaven.
Producing the Dimensional world for this 2nd heaven to be displayed inside i.e.
between the Faces of a "Plane" which produces your Field of Vision !

TWO Completely different "Heavens".     :)


Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: Pimander on April 01, 2013, 06:49:13 PM
I think the waters and the face of the deep refer to the infinite ocean of chaos (without form and void).  At this point order must manifest before a meaningful experience can occur.

The darkness indicates that nothing can be seen as there is no form (and darkness was upon the face of the deep)

The spirit of God is the Logos or Word of God manifesting within the ocean of chaos (And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.)


God saying "Let there be light" symbolises the Voice of God (Logos) differentiating or bringing forth order from the deep (chaos) (And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.)


At this point, there is a universe with form.  As you rightly noted light can be seen against a background which is a symbolic way indicating that order came out of chaos.

It is obviously difficult to translate mystical poetry to English, which is why we can write our own versions of these works.  The translators also had the problem of putting the works into something that could be understood by a laymen and not just mystical initiates or priests.  I would beware of trying to focus too much on exact wording in English when studying Biblical texts due to these issues with translation.

I think that the ancient Hebrew mystical system had at least 7 heavens....
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on April 02, 2013, 01:40:59 AM
Hi Pimander,

You are sort f right in your evaluation...   :)

This might add some understanding of what the writings are about...

From "John's Preaching of the Gospel" The Acts of John 87-105

Part Way through Chapter 97 to 103. Quote;

QuoteJohn, for the people below in Jerusalem I am being crucified and pierced
with lances and reeds, and given vinegar and gall to drink.

But to you I am speaking, and listen to what I speak. I put into your mind to come up
to this mountain so that you may hear what a disciple should learn from his Teacher
and a man from God.

98.    And when He had said this He showed me a Cross of Light firmly fixed,
and around The Cross a great  crowd, which had no single form;
and in It (The Cross) was One Form and the Same Likeness.
And I saw The Lord Himself Above The Cross, having No Shape but only a kind of Voice;
yet not that voice which we knew, but one that was sweet and gentle and truly
the Voice of God, which said to me, "John, there must be one man to hear these things
from Me; for I need one who is ready to hear."

This Cross of Light is sometimes Called LOGOS/b] by Me for your sakes,
sometimes Mind,
sometimes Jesus,
sometimes Christ,
sometimes A Door,
sometimes A Way
sometimes Bread,
sometimes Seed,
sometimes Resurrection,
sometimes Son,
sometimes Father,
sometimes Spirit,
sometimes LIFE,
sometimes TRUTH,
sometimes Faith,
sometimes Grace;
and so it is called for men#s sake.

But what It Truly is, as Known IN Itself and spoken to us, is this:

It is The Distinction of All Things, and The Harmony of Wisdom, being Wisdom In Harmony.

But there are Places on the right and on the left, Powers, Authorities, Principalities
and Demonds, Activities, Threatenings, Passions, Devils, Satan and The Inferior Root
from which the Nature of Transient things Proceeded.

99.    This Cross then is that which has united ALL things by The WORD
and which has separated off what is Transitory and Inferior, which has also Compacted
ALL things into b]ONE[/b].

But this is NOT that WOODEN CROSS , which you shall see when you go
down from here; nor am I the man who is on the Cross,

I whom  now you do not see but only hear My Voice.
I was taken to be what I am NOT, I who am NOT what for many others I was;
but what they will say of Me is mean and unworthy of Me.

Since then The Place of My Rest is neither to be seen nor told,
much more shall I, The Lord of this Place, be neither seen nor Told.

100.    The Multitude around The CROSS that is NOT of One Form
is the Inferior Nature.
And those whom you saw IN The CROSS, even if they have not
yet One Form Not every member of Him who has come down has yet been
gathered together.

But when human nature is taken up, and The Race that comes to Me and Obeys
My Voice, then he who now hears Me Shall be United with this Race and Shall
no longer be what he now is, but shall be above them as I am now.

For so long as you do not call yourself mine, I am Not what I am; but if you hear Me
you also as a hearer Shall be as I am, and I Shall be what I was, when you are
as I am with Myself; for from Me you are what I am.

Therefore ignore the many and despise those who are outside the mystery;
for you must know that I am wholly with The Father, and The Father with Me.

101.    So then I Suffer none of those things which they will say of Me;
even that Suffering which I showed to you and to the rest in My Dance, I will that it be
called a mystery, for what you are, that I have shown you, as you see; but what I am
is known to Me alone, and no one else. Let Me have what is Mine; what is yours
you must see through Me
; but Me you must See Truly not that which I am,
as I said, but that which you, as my kinsman, are able to know.

You hear that I Suffered, yet I Suffered not; and that I Suffered not, yet I did Suffer;
and that I was pierced, yet I was not wounded;
that I was hanged, yet I was not hanged;
that blood flowed from Me, yet it did not flow;
and, in a word, that what they say of Me,
I did not endure, but what they do not say,
those things I did Suffer.

Now what these are, I secretly show you; for I know that you will understand.
You must know Me, then, as the Torment of The LOGOS the Wounding
of The LOGOS, the Fasting of The LOGOS, the Death of The LOGOS.
.And so I speak, Discarding the manhood.

The First then that you MUST KNOW is THE LOGOS; then you Shall Know The LORD,
and Thirdly The MAN, and what he has Suffered:

102.    When He had said these things to me,
and others which I know not how to say as He wills,
He was taken up, without any of the multitude seeing Him.

And going down I laughed at them all, since He had told me what they had said
about Him; and I held this one thing fast in my Mind, that The Lord had Performed
everything as a SYMBOL and a Dispensation for the Conversion
and Salvation of man.

103.    Now, my brothers, since we have see the grace of The Lord and His affection
towards us, let us worship Him, since we have obtained mercy from Him;
not with our fingers, nor with our mouths nor with our tongue nor with any member
of our body at all, but with The Disposition of our SOUL;
let us worship Him who was made Man apart from this Body. And let us watch,



With reference to the "Dance", mentioned in the "Above Text", making reference
to The "OGDOAD" .Quote;

Quote1.    Glory be to Thee, Father. And we circled round Him and answered Him,
"Amen".
Glory be to Thee LOGOS; Glory be to Thee, Grace. Amen."

2.    "Glory be to Thee, Spirit: Glory be to Thee, Holy One: Glory be to Thy Glory." "Amen."

3.    "We praise Thee, Father: We thank Thee, Light: In whom darkness dwelleth not," "Amen."
#And why we give thanks, I tell you:

4.     "I will be Saved, And I will Save." "Amen."

5.     "I will be Loosed, And I will Loose." "Amen."

6.     "I will be Wounded, And I will Wound." "Amen."

7.     "I will be Born, And I will Bear." "Amen."

8.     "I will eat, And I will be Eaten." "Amen."

9.     "I will Hear, And I will be Heard." "Amen."

10.    "I will be Thought, Being wholly Thought." "Amen."

11.    "I will be Washed, And I will Wash." "Amen."

12.    "I will Pipe, Dance, All of you." "Amen."

13.    "I will Mourn, Beat you all your Breasts." "Amen."

14.    "The One OGDOAD sings praises with us." "Amen."

15.    "The Twelfth Number Dances on High." "Amen."

16.    "To the Universe belongs the Dancer." "Amen."

17.    "He who does not Dance does not know what happens." "Amen."

18.    "I will Flee, And I will Remain." "Amen."

19.    "I will Adorn, And I will be Adorned." "Amen."

20.    #I will be United, And I will Unite." "Amen."

21.    #I have no House, And I have Houses," "Amen."

22.    #I have no Place, And I have Places." "Amen."

23.    #I have no Temple, And I have Temples." "Amen."

24.    #I am a Lamp to you who see Me." "Amen."

[b25.[/b]    #I am a Mirror to you Who know Me." "Amen."

26.    #I am a Door to you Who knock on Me." "Amen."

27    #I am a Way to you  the Traveller." "Amen."

28.    #Now if you Follow My Dance,

29.   #see yourself in Me Who Am Speaking,
   
30.    And when you have seen what I do, keep silence about My mysteries.

31.    You who Dance, Consider what I do, for yours is

32.    This passion of Man which I am to Suffer.

33.    For you could by no means have understood what you Suffer

34.    unless to you as LOGOS I had been sent by The Father.

35.    You who saw what I Suffer saw Me as Suffering yourself,

36.    and seeing it you did not stay but were wholly moved.

37.    Being moved towards wisdom you have Me as a support; rest in Me.

38.    Who I am, you shall know when I go forth.

39.    What I am Seen to be, That I am NOT;

40.    What I am you Shall See When you come yourself.

41.    If you knew How to Suffer you would be able not to Suffer.

42.    Learn how to Suffer And you Shall be able not to Suffer.

43.    What you do not know I Myself will teach you.

44.    I am your God, not the God of the traitor

45.    I will that there be prepared Holy SOULS for Me.

46.    Understand The Word of Wisdom!

47.    As for Me, if you would understand What I was::

48.    By The Word I mocked at all things And was not mocked at all,

49.    I Exulted: But do you Understand The Whole,

50.    and when you have understood It, Say, Glory be to Thee, Father.



The OGDOAD !

As seen from the Highest Heaven...


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0055.jpg)



It is Impossible to obtain this Knowledge from the human Primate !

So my Interpretations do NOT come From the human Primate but instead
where my "Real Self" Resides.

We can look from either End...

1.   From The Highest Heaven.
Or
2.   From the Absolute Centre Through the human Primate which has "Double Logic"
in its Genome.

What I have been Revealing in Pegasus, does NOT come from "The Absolute Centre",
but instead Comes from the "Outer", whose Contents (Male) was referred to as The Farther.


Re. where I am from !

An example from, "The Gospel of Thomas"... Quote;

Quote50.    Jesus said, "If they say to you, "Where did you come from?"

say to them, "We came  from The LIGHT, the place where The LIGHT came into being
on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their IMAGE."

If they say to you "Is it you?" say,  "We are its children, and we are the elect
of The LIVING Father."

If they ask you, "What is the sign of your Father in you?"
say to them, "It is MOVEMENT and REPOSE."

I have described the LIGHT I have Come From, in my 1st  Section of my Forums.

Titled...

"0001 Coming to know the Origin of the Universe. No religion involved."

Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: Edward on April 02, 2013, 02:15:25 AM
FWIW,

Several  years ago I was regressed for the first time. At the time I had my doubts and really didnt know what I was getting into and was wondering if I was even making it all up. Anyways one of the scenes that emerged was that I got that I was a shaman or sorts and it felt like like South America could have been central America or Mexico even.  Anways.  I'm on this path that is  marked by various skulls, feathers and tattered cloth of various colors on sticks.  Up in trees, lining this path  every so often.  As a marker to stay away basically.  For me I got the sense it was ok since I was a watcher /protector of  a cave site that was coming up towards the end of this path.    I went into the cave there is this huge tomb, which seemed to be totally encased.  The size of it was  very big.  It's really hard to say how big it was but can safely say it was bigger and wider than any "normal sized" human casket/tomb.  If I had to guess It was at least 15 Feet long and no more than 30 feet long.  In the vision/regression I knew immediately what it was form the perspective of my mind and the mind of that shaman.  It was a Giant.  I didnt delv into who it was or perhaps I dont recall at this time. I do recall that I was there to make sure the tomb  was undisturbed and taken care of.


Edward
Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on April 02, 2013, 03:01:26 AM
Here is an interesting formation near where I live...

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_igYgSalUTYo/TAtYFyERmTI/AAAAAAAAACo/cVNl5U1gIHA/s1600/Rongokako.jpg)

See the Giant, with his head to the right ?

The above range is known as "The Sleeping Giant"...

I have been up on this, and the soil is much different than the surrounding land.

It has a fossil like appearance to it.

Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: zorgon on April 02, 2013, 10:43:45 AM
The Sleeping Giant

Thunderbay Ontario


(http://www.fulbrightblog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Sleeping-Giant0051.jpg)

Title: Re: Giants and Nephilim
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on April 02, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
An even better looking one there Z...    :)