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Title: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: micjer on April 08, 2013, 01:46:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTTCvtUaxys

Britain's first and only female prime minister Margaret Thatcher has died peacefully following a stroke at the age of 87.

Lord Bell said: "It is with great sadness that Mark and Carol Thatcher announced that their mother Baroness Thatcher died peacefully following a stroke this morning.

"A further statement will be made later."

Baroness Thatcher, Britain's first and only woman prime minister, had become increasingly frail and was suffering ill health in recent years.

She was admitted to hospital shortly before Christmas where she underwent an operation to remove a growth from her bladder but was allowed to return home before new year.
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 01:59:06 PM
It will be the biggest celebration of the century in the UK for normal working people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: micjer on April 08, 2013, 02:03:16 PM
Have to admit I don't know a whole lot about her, but it seems that those that did, do not speak too highly of her.  (Only the politicians liked her)

QuoteWell looks like the old witch has popped her clogs.
No one in Scotland will miss her.
Thank you Maggie for making the Tories toxic forever in Scotland.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread938546/pg1
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 08, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
She made life intolerable for ordinary working-class people.
And she let defense secretary John Knott sell off half our navy just before Argentina invaded the Falklands, then she insisted that our missile defense systems NOT be switched to automatic (only after approval from Whitehall) thus condemming many sailors & marines to death.
Then she made a big patriotic show out of 'our boys fighting for liberty' etc.
Then she started the (bound to fail) property boom, and sold our north-sea oil to foreigners, then she got into endless rows with the unions etc.
Then she made millions from her 'memoirs' which should have been titled "why no-one listens to me any more".

Oh yes, and she was in on the whole 'churchillgate' affair :P

And we made her a baroness for it :o

Doubtless there will be a huge statue of her placed in London, with the text;

"Mrs Thatcher, one-time Queen of england in all but name, freind of dictators, enemy of her own people"

No, we shall not miss her 8)
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
Some examples off FaceBook

QuoteTHE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD! BURN IN HELL WITH THE REST OF YOUR KIND MARGARET THATCHER! LIKE HITLER THIS WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE FOR YOUR DIMISE! NOW OBSERVE HOW THE TORY SCUM WILL THROW MILLIONS OF PUBLC POUNDS INTO COMMEMORATING THIS EVIL WOMAN! I REFUSE TO PAY TOWARD ANY CELEBRATION OR MEMORIAL TO THIS ENEMY THAT I DESPISE FOR WHAT SHE DID AND IS STILL DOING DESPITE BIENG DEAD! I WILL CELEBRATE HER MISERABLE DEATH! AND THE BETTER WORLD WE NOW LIVE IN!

QuoteJust heard the news I've been wanting for many, many years and gotta say it's made my decade so far at will probably be the highlight, politically speaking. Can't ever recall hoping someone would die apart from our beloved Mrs. T but I don't feel guilty about wishing on that piece of shit. I hope it was painful for her and hope there is a hell for her although purgaTORY would be more fitting. I'm so very happy today and will now have one very celebratory ale. Goonight, goodbye and GOOD RIDDANCE YOU EVIL frigING EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT YOU!!!

Quote"She created today's housing crisis. She created the banking crisis. And she created the benefits crisis. It was her government that started putting people on incapacity benefit rather than register them as unemployed because the Britain she inherited was broadly full employment. She decided when she wrote off our manufacturing industry that she could live with two or three million unemployed, and the benefits bill, the legacy of that, we are struggling with today. In actual fact, every real problem we face today is the legacy of the fact that she was fundamentally wrong."
Ken Livingstone (former London Mayor)
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: undo11 on April 08, 2013, 04:41:35 PM
when people say "working class people" when talking about big wigs like thatcher, they don't mean middle dass , nor upper middle class, nor lower middle class.  they mean upper class and the poverty stricken, who never had jobs to begin with.   the upper class use the poverty stricken like a baseball bat to slap the actual working class people around. lol
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 04:42:48 PM
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535808_10151340481121646_469226536_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Sinny on April 08, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 08, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
She made life intolerable for ordinary working-class people.
And she let defense secretary John Knott sell off half our navy just before Argentina invaded the Falklands, then she insisted that our missile defense systems NOT be switched to automatic (only after approval from Whitehall) thus condemming many sailors & marines to death.
Then she made a big patriotic show out of 'our boys fighting for liberty' etc.
Then she started the (bound to fail) property boom, and sold our north-sea oil to foreigners, then she got into endless rows with the unions etc.
Then she made millions from her 'memoirs' which should have been titled "why no-one listens to me any more".

Oh yes, and she was in on the whole 'churchillgate' affair :P

And we made her a baroness for it :o

Doubtless there will be a huge statue of her placed in London, with the text;

"Mrs Thatcher, one-time Queen of england in all but name, freind of dictators, enemy of her own people"

No, we shall not miss her 8)

In regards to the Fauklands...she certainly made some strange decisions, that don't seem to represent the best interests of Britain..why?

It is my belief she was acting in support of the Bolshevised government factions...which opens a whole new can of of worms aha.

I believe the defence minister at the time voluntry/forcefuly left over disagrements to do with the Fauklands... I forget his name now *facepalm*
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
Quote from: Sinny on April 08, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
It is my belief she was acting in support of the Bolshevised government factions...which opens a whole new can of of worms aha.
No.  She was completely and utterly in favour of unregulated capitalism.  That is what lead to the banking crisis and international economic crisis (i.e. deregulation of banks and trade).  Bolshevism advocates the opposite, and likely equally disastrous, extreme of no free enterprise whatsoever.  Somewhere in between you may have a tolerable option, but selling infrastructure and energy supply to private, foreign profiteers is insanity.
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: undo11 on April 08, 2013, 05:49:30 PM
unregulated capitalism IS bolshevism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy8CZe5UC9o
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 06:00:31 PM
Bolshevism?  Well whatever it really is (they're all isms), I agree that it is complete insanity. :)
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: undo11 on April 08, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 06:00:31 PM
Bolshevism?  Well whatever it really is (they're all isms), I agree that it is complete insanity. :)

did you watch the video?  we were building them factories, training their people how to operate them, sharing sensitive tech with them, then using the new tech as a reason for america to build better tech than that. in essence, we were competing with ourselves and charging the tax payers for it. 
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 06:12:29 PM
Yes.  We were charged for building the NATO war machine to fight a bogeyman that never existed too, on both sides of the Atlantic.

Scary.  NOw what if N Korea is run by stooges.  We have to have a bogeyman after all?
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Sinny on April 08, 2013, 06:20:43 PM
Dr. Peter Beter stated that there are three main power factions at work, and describes them in detail.

Here's my own work from ATS:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread886574/pg1

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Now, it takes time and understanding to appreciate Dr. Peter Beters logic, It would take two 40 hour weeks to complete the transcripts, just once! Believe me, lots of it has to be re-read to make it digestible.

Beter was famous in his time for making many astounding political predictions, that all came true. A few didn't, but the game of politics is ever changing. Also famous for his best selling book in the 70's "The conspiracy against the dollar", and stating that Fort Knox gold had been squandered.

Where did he get his information? Well, trying to find that out, about an already mysterious man has been quite hard.

All we know is, he played key professional roles in the banking an political world, the Knox information was provided by a Rockefeller aid, he had many contacts similar to that previous, and - another one..... No, best no go there, its rather exceptional.

Anyway, Beter's information is astounding, shocking and reality changing, please know that there's far more behind this story than shall be presented, so this may sound completely far fetched to some, others might nod and agree.

You know how there's still lots of questions without answers, and things that just don't make sense? This might explain a few.

(This is Fred Burks surmise of certain aspects of the Beter Transcripts in regards to Bolshevism and Zionism *** I have chosen this, as it makes the material easier to follow***)

MODS: This quote is about 1/8 of the original text, I hope this isn't to much, but all is necessary.

QuoteIn 1917, during the height of World War I, two events took place which were destined to shape much of the history of the Twentieth Century. One was the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. The other was the Balfour Declaration, by which the government of Britain threw its support behind the concept of creating a Jewish homeland in Palestine

QuoteBoth Bolshevism and the political force known as Zionism have common roots which are not widely known. Both were created by the Rothschild interests, whose support was also responsible for the meteoric rise to riches of John D. Rockefeller, Sr., a century ago. Bolshevism and Zionism also have common historical roots in the so-called "Kingdom of the Jews" of a thousand years ago.

QuoteThis kingdom was situated in what is now southern Russia, between the Black and Caspian Seas. It consisted of a people known as the Khazars of a Mongol-Turkic origin whose leader officially adopted Judaism as the state religion. This was done as a political ploy to enable Khazaria to maintain its political independence of two powerful neighbors

QuoteThese were the super-powers of that day: the Moslem empire of the Caliphs to the South and the Christian empire of Byzantium to the west.

QuoteThe Khazar empire extended far northward into what, under Christian Prince Vladimir, became known as Russia. The Khazar empire even included the ancient Russian city of Kiev, where Vladimir ruled. Khazar rule was brutal and oppressive, without any of the compensating advantages offered by other empires, such as protection against outside powers or improved civilization. Finally the Christian forces of Prince Vladimir's Russia and Byzantium combined to attack the Khazar "Kingdom of the Jews", so-called, and utterly destroy it. The Khazar "Jews" were driven out of their homeland between the seas, many of them into eastern Europe. There they mingled to some extent with Jews of the diaspora from Palestine, but they carried with them a peculiar heritage. It was a heritage of bitter hatred for Christianity in general and for Russian Christians in particular.

QuoteDown through the centuries, the "Khazar Jew" dream of regaining their lost empire has been passed down from generation to generation. This dream has developed into two branches. One branch emphasizes restoration of power over Russia, and crystallized into Bolshevism.

Zionism:

QuoteThe other branch, emphasizing the old, falsely religious "Kingdom of the Jews" concept, emerged as the political force known as Zionism. Both are aimed at world power. Both are equally ruthless, devoid of regard for human life. They differ only in geographic emphasis and in some tactics. With their common roots and common basic objectives, the Bolsheviks and Zionists work together hand in glove.

QuoteWhen Bolshevism was injected into Christian Russia in 1917, it was done with the help of the Rockefeller Cartel. From that time onward there was a covert alliance between those who controlled American policies behind the scenes (the Rockefeller Cartel) and those who ran the Soviet Union (the Bolsheviks). The Rockefeller Standard Oil interests were given control over marketing of the oil from the giant Russian Baku oil fields in 1926. Over the years, the Rockefeller Cartel saw to it that the Bolshevik regime in Russia was propped up in every way necessary to keep it in power.

Fake cold War:

QuoteWhile the United States and the Soviet Union pretended to be at odds, they actually were involved in a pincers movement to gobble up the entire world. The falsified animosity between Washington and Moscow was staged in order to polarize the world and cause nations to form up into two camps dominated by the two super-powers.

QuoteThose who chose to remain independent of both the United States and the Soviet Union - the so-called "Third World" - were targeted for brush fire wars and revolutions to bring them to heel, one by one. Meanwhile the long-term goal was - in the words of a secret White House directive,

The destruction of America from within.

Quoten order to "merge" American life into the pattern of Soviet life under the Bolsheviks, it was clear that the quality of American life would have to be lowered a great deal. It required subtle movement of the American political system in the direction of dictatorship. It required weakening of America's financial and monetary system.

The Conspiracy Against The Dollar
http://www.acsa2000.net/thecad.htm

They carefully dragged America through "No-Win" wars, such that of Vietnam and Korea, the final war would be a perfectly planned and staged "Nuclear War" between America and the Soviet Union. However, things in Russia took a turn when the Christian Russians challenged the Bolsheviks.


QuoteTheir power had begun to outweigh that of the Bolsheviks in certain areas starting in 1953, when Stalin died. This was the reason for Nikita Khruschev's famous "de-Stalinization" campaign afterward. In the mid-1970's this anti-Bolshevik sect finally reached such a level of power that they completely overthrew and expelled the remaining Bolsheviks in the Kremlin. There followed a heavy wave of expulsions of Bolsheviks from positions of power in Russia, which was depicted in the Western press as emigration.

Bolsheviks Banished

When the Bolshevik power system fell from Russia, so did the Russian - American secret alliance.

QuoteThe Rockefeller-Soviet alliance had been based on Bolshevik control on the Soviet side, and when that was terminated, so was the secret alliance. The alliance was fractured by the still-secret Underwater Missile Crisis of 1976; a year later it was broken completely by the equally secret Battle of The Harvest Moon in space.

At that point the Rockefeller brothers thought they were clever in bringing certain out-casted Bolsheviks back to the USA, maybe they could have provided an upper-hand over the new Russian factions?

Socialist - Socialist

QuoteWhat the Rockefeller brothers forgot is that the Bolsheviks are incapable of sharing power with anyone. Worse yet, the Bolsheviks are state socialists, who seek to concentrate all power into the hands of a few (themselves) by way of government. The Rockefeller Cartel, by contrast, represents corporate socialism - the concentration of power into the hands of a few by way of corporations, with minimum governmental interference.

The Real Cold War.

As soon as the Bolsheviks had been provided with positions of power within the USA, they wasted no time in over throwing the Rockefeller brothers.

QuoteBy mid-1978, Bolshevik influence within the Pentagon was causing a radical shift of American strategic policy onto a first-strike nuclear posture. Meanwhile in July 1978, the death of John D. Rockefeller, 3rd, took place, weakening what had been the four-brother unit. In November 1978 the Guyana Massacre took place, as part of a military operation masterminded by the Pentagon Bolsheviks and with crucial participation by Israeli commandos.

In 1979, the Bolsheviks nearly completed their plan, by arranging the death of Nelson Rockefeller. However, they failed at their attempt, due to the interference of the Russian KGB. The new members of the Kremlin knew that complete Bolshevik control in the US would lead to all out real Nuclear War.

New Rockefeller Alliance with the Kremlin

By 1982 there was an internal battle for power within the US government by the Bolsheviks and remaining Rockefeller interests, consequently, the Rockefeller interests painfully made an alliance with the new Cristian occupants of the Kremlin, to over throw their MUTUAL enemy, the American Bolsheviks.

The American Bolsheviks, Israel and The Middle East.

QuoteThe Bolsheviks here in the United States have as a major goal a deliberate nuclear war by which to smash the Russia which overthrew them. As an avenue toward that war, the Middle East is critical. In that area, the Bolsheviks here are relying upon their close allies, the Zionists, to pave the way for war.

In Closing;

QuoteJust as most Americans are unaware of the Bolshevized nature of their government, most Israeli citizens are unaware of the true goals of their Zionist government. Americans and Israelis alike scratch their heads with worry and puzzlement over actions of their respective governments. While constantly talking peace, both are systematically increasing the dangers of war.

Quoted text from Frank Burke:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_drbeter01.htm



Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Amaterasu on April 08, 2013, 06:20:43 PM
Quote from: Pimander on April 08, 2013, 06:12:29 PM
Yes.  We were charged for building the NATO war machine to fight a bogeyman that never existed too, on both sides of the Atlantic.

Scary.  NOw what if N Korea is run by stooges.  We have to have a bogeyman after all?

Or, in 1984-speak, a Goldstein.
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Somamech on April 08, 2013, 06:31:53 PM
About the only thing I find quite interesting in regards to her death is that she lived that long given that she is quoted with some brash comments about sleep  :o





Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 08, 2013, 08:10:44 PM
A very informative post, sinny ;) but i fear Pimander is right.
Thatcher made deals on both sides of the fence all the time.
She made a secret deal with extreme right-wing groups (many of whom being lower class were at loggerheads with her policies) to secure their vote.
She promised them tougher immigration laws etc, if they voted for her & not their own marginal parties.

These same groups were also having secret meetings with orthodox Jews, trying to untangle the web of their zionist cousins & Thatcher's role in supporting the Israel lobby in the U.S.

These groups also had meetings with Hindu, Rastafarian & other minority groups in the U.K. to try & work out how things were likely to go.
This may surprise you, but these groups discovered that many non-english citizens supported a simple 'get you home' plan sponsored by the gubmint: Many foreighners lured to the UK by stories of streets paved with gold etc soon discovered that life there was just as hard as anywhere else.

Many of them hated it, and wanted to return to their homeland, but were unable to do so because of lack of money or red-tape issues.
The right-wing groups actually wanted to help them, & drafted some ideas to hand over to Mrs T to consider.

I was at some of those meetings, so yes it did happen :P

Of course, that plan was slapped down hard, & in total disregard of her own 'tougher immigration' laws,she did quite the reverse, and opened the gates...

Having just given the (not exactly poor) Japanese 42 million to build one of their factories in the middle of England, she destroyed any prospect of making something from the Channel Tunnel project.

We thought 'at least we will get some much-needed income from this, despite the pitfalls'
(There was a very real fear at the time that anything from Rabies to Refugees & Terrorists, drug-smugglers etc would just walk through the tunnel into the UK, wether this has ever happened, i have no idea).

The British Rail train works in Kent was just being sold off & dismantled when the Tunnel project was approved. This enourmous complex had made trains for the Tzar's trans-siberia railway, India etc. It was situated just 23 miles from Folkestone, where the new tunnel would start.

Newtown Works (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashford_railway_works#Locomotive_building_at_Ashford)

The tunnelling machines came from Canada, most of the jig & construction work went to Scottish & French companies, and the French would also make the trains.

Many people were forced out of their homes, huge swathes of Kent were levelled to make way for buildings, 400 year-old Oaks were uprooted.
The 120 year-old Cinema was demolished to make way for 'Ashford International station' and a huge multi-storey car park & hotels etc; all of which is a massive white elephant even today...

The people of Kent did actually get some jobs out of it. They are the sorry-looking souls who sit in the kiosk or serve your coffee, and i got to work a 72 hour week making the flanges for the water pumps. Big deal :P...
Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: Somamech on April 08, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
Nice write up PWM  ;D

As an Australian who has come back from Taiwan I share many Disgrunt's :D

I apparently come from a "Nation" which is rich and dictates the worlds outcomes via sanctions!

Oddly these great nations cannot get rail right... Yet Taiwan are constantly building! 

Title: Re: Margaret Thatcher Dies After Stroke
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 08, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
Yes, and we also tested our nuclear weapons in your back yard, mate ;D

Don't you just love the Brits ::)
I have considered moving to Ch1na, having a lab next to the shao-lin temple, but i also value my freedom of speech :-X