Pegasus Research Consortium

im with you sky but now the conspiracy part.
my younger step bro took a job offer at boston general.has neen their since november.
was a medic in iraq for six years then a coriner assistent before being hired in boston.
makes me wonder.

Just what the heck is going on??

Things-nasty things- happening ever more frequently.

Meteorites, bombings, shooting sprees, all happening on an almost daily basis.

Could this be yet another false flag op? I get the feeling we're heading downhill fast....

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 15, 2013, 11:39:58 PM
Could this be yet another false flag op? I get the feeling we're heading downhill fast....

It's odd, but my immediate intuitive reaction, for no rational reason that I can put my finger on, was that this is actually not a false flag; but that it was done by someone outside the government, and that the government were genuinely blindsided by it.

Mind you, as I've written elsewhere, I'm aware that the American government's policy with such things is to never let a good crisis go to waste; so this will be used as pretext for the increase of fascism to such an extent that, even though it might not have been a false flag, for all practical intents and purposes, it won't matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iPoJQKPRFk

Alex thinks that there are going to be a number of false flag incidents for the purposes of completely discrediting both the Right militia movement, and more broadly, Libertarianism and literally anyone who advocates the American Constitution. He thinks the government's goal is to equate, in the public's minds, the Constitution itself with terrorism. This, of course, would be done as a pre-emptive counter-revolutionary move, prior to the final establishment of a genuine, openly fascist dictatorship in America.

I've known for 20 years that this was coming. Truthfully, I was just never sure which President it would happen under. 9/11 initially made me think that it was going to be Bush; but it later wasn't. I don't know whether it will be Obama; but the signs are potentially leaning in that direction.

i gotta ask the video nerds out there.
do the trash cans completely explode or does the blast go upwards.
are the people injured actually handycap with false wounds.
fake limbs?
its possible to stage the whole thing.
the sooner we ask the hard questions.the sooner we know if its false flag brainwashed saudi funded by the cia or a crises actor show.

well a month ago abc broadcast nk lauched two missiles a sk then pulled the broadcast and went back to normal programing like nothing happened.

i question all these days.
too much 1984 going on.

and to add at nine this morning on I-30 had more highway patrol on a hundred mile stretch than i have ever seen on a interstate in my life.
my friend even asked i wonder who theyre looking for?
an average of one every five miles.not including local cops too.
just parked on the sides of the highway not pulling people over as usual.

A few more points of information.

a} This bombing happened in Boston, Massacheusetts.
b} The 15th is apparently Patriots' Day.
c} The 15th is four days before the anniversary of the Battle of Lexington, which occurred near Boston, on the 19th of April, 1775. The Battle of Lexington was the opening battle of the American War of Independence.
d} The Waco siege also ended on April 19th, and the Oklahoma City bombing occurred on that date.
e} The Columbine School Shooting occurred on April 20, 1999.
f} The Virginia Tech massacre occurred on April 16, 2007.

All of these incidents have clustered around Patriots' Day, in their respective years. The people here will know more about sacred geometry than I do; but what I've been learning about it lately has told me that the single main focus of it, is observing and utilising intersection points. The Freemasons supposedly use ley line intersection points which allow them to levitate and liquefy stone for their monuments; and it has long been believed in some quarters that the psychopaths in the government who stage these events, consistently do so on specific dates which they believe to have magickal significance.

Maybe this is just a coincidence.

Then again...maybe not.

Coincidence... :P

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Turban Cowboy"
Family Guy episode
Season 11
Episode 15

Original air date   March 17, 2013
Guest actors
Omid Abtahi as Mahmoud
Bob Costas as Himself



"Turban Cowboy" is the fifteenth episode of the eleventh season and the 203rd overall episode of the animated comedy series Family Guy. It aired on Fox in the United States on March 17, 2013, and is written by Artie Johann and Shawn Ries and directed by Joe Vaux.[1]


Plot:

As Peter, Joe, and Quagmire hang out at The Drunken Clam, they decide to do something to shake up their boring lives. They take Peter up on his suggestion to take up skydiving. Peter is invigorated by their jump and keeps up skydiving despite Lois' concern, even as his jumps usually result in accidents like falling on Meg at dinner, falling on a ninja that killed a woman, and falling on the castle of the Pig King from Angry Birds with only one pig not ended up killed. An accident at the Eiffel Tower replica in Las Vegas lands Peter in the hospital where he meets Mahmoud, a Muslim. He finds he gets along great with Mahmoud. Back at the Drunken Clam, Peter has Mahmoud stop by to introduce him to Quagmire, Joe, and Brian. They find he has nothing in common with them when he refuses to drink or look at other women. Mahmoud introduces Peter to Islamic culture and he becomes interested in becoming a Muslim. Lois has reservations as Peter starts studying Islam in-depth although she decides to let it pass. Joe and Quagmire also voice their suspicions about Mahmoud as Peter tries to dial up Mahmoud twice only to cause some explosions off-screen. Mahmoud later invites Peter to a Muslim get-together but finds himself unwitting involved with terrorists intent on blowing up the Quahog Bridge.

When Peter drops that he is trying to act inauspicious, the guys begin to suspect that he is involved with terrorists. Peter realizes that he has been duped and wants to drop out but Joe convinces him to go along since he is already on the inside. As they go over the plan, Peter finds out that he will be driving the van. Peter is caught when he reveals he is wearing a microphone when trying to scratch an itch near it. Joe and Quagmire hear as they plan is rushed into action. Peter is held at gunpoint and forced to drive the explosives-laden van to the Quahog Bridge. Peter tries to talk Mahmoud out of his plan, but fails. Joe arrives in time with the police to stop him and destroys the detonator by knocking it out of Mahmoud's hand. Joe mentions that 30 of the terrorists have been arrested and that the rest of the local Muslims are cast under suspicion. Joe thanks Peter for his involvement as Peter decides to call Horace to get a table ready for his friends and family at the Drunken Clam. As he dials his cell phone, the Quahog Bridge explodes and Peter orders everyone to run away.


Deleted Scenes

Due to the events of the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings, two scenes were deleted from the episode:


One scene shows Peter killing participants of the Boston Marathon:

At 3 minutes, 33 seconds into the episode: As Peter is skydiving:

Peter: Holy crap, this is awesome! I haven't felt a rush like this since I won that marathon!

Cue flashback: Peter is speeding his car, killing runners at a marathon

Cue news interview after marathon killing: Bob Costas: I'm Bob Costas, here with Boston Marathon winner Peter Griffin. Peter, how did you do it? (background image shows Peter smiling in his blood-drenched car, raising a clenched left fist as he crosses the finish line past many dead bodies) Peter: I'll tell ya, Bob, I just got in my car and drove it. And when there was a guy in my way, I killed him.


A second scene shows Peter activating twin explosions:

At 15 minutes, 6 seconds into the episode Inside of a tavern:

Joe: Peter, I think you joined a terrorist sleeper cell.

Peter: What? That's crazy. Look, I'm gonna call Mahmoud right now on this cell phone he gave me. He'll tell ya.

(Peter dials phone) (An explosion sounds in the distance)

Peter: Damn phone's busted. Maybe I dialed wrong.

(Peter dials again) (A second explosion sounds in the distance, multiple people are heard screaming)

Family Guy boston bombing - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H5U5LiHnutw)


Watch Family Guy | Turban Cowboy online | Free | Hulu (http://www.hulu.com/watch/468323)


Why the Illuminati Expose the Conspiracy (http://henrymakow.com/devils_advocate.html)

Well here We go:

https://twitter.com/thejediknight1/status/324170314642755586/photo/1

Wish I could display this - but it's httpS

welk ats has just come out that disney is cia.thats what ive been saying for years even though they are not supposed to be active inside the borders.

thats right.they are active and manipulating this country.
time to end the cia.

Warning:  The link below will take you to bloody pictures.  Do not press if you prefer not to view graphic bloody scenes.[EDITED BY ADMIN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrNMhQ4Rx08

The static pic on the video cover shows military presence, and at the 59 second mark you'll notice fully outfitted military personnel on site, not freaked out--just standing around comparing their notes, or reviewing information of some sort. Why are they even there...outfitted with full gear? I believe this to be a bit odd, and their demeanor does NOT fit the situation (if they were not privy to intel regarding this false flag op...I of course mean...POSSIBLE false flag op.).

Symbology? Patriots' (Day)...FINISHED...get it?

Peace and Love,
JD

I'm not sure who the "fools" are...  There is a VAST amount of highly suspicious stuff.

First, the "drill" that was being done, same day, same area.  This is so if They are caught, They can say, "We are just having a drill...  Nothing to see here."

Second, the military in full garb (sans rifles) unconcerned...

Third, live feeds of witnesses failed - They lost Their feed...

And a few more things.

What *I* find...not offensive - I choose not to be offended by much of anything...but perhaps disingenuous, is a refocusing from these oddities into an emotional feel-good look-at-how-CARING-People-are detail-ignoring set of words.

Another button, "negative poop."  You suggest We NOT look at the details and just accept the official story?  THAT worked well for Us in 9/11, eh?  We went to war for poppy fields, had the "Patriot" Act installed, and more.  Let's watch what this incident is used to enact and ask if there was a motive to stage this event.

Oh dear....

Lets remember that this is a FAMILY site, we don't need blood & guts pictures, if you want that, go see a horror flick. While JD had a reason for posting the film, it would have been better to just post the LINK with a WARNING that it contained graphic material.

Yes, the presence of the military (standing around doing nothing while all the medics were running to & fro) is rather suspicious. At the same time, they could of just been in shock. Medics see blood every day, your average soldier hasn't.

However, that last post was removed (not by me) because it was  personal & offensive. Sky is right, we should be focussing on caring & looking for clues, not sensationalism.

Anything else is just heresay, especially since no-one knows exactly what happened at this point.

JD you will have to take a chill pill & moderate your language, if you want to have a go at someone, please use the PM button, we don't all need to see it, in your own words;
"I don't need to see it"
Neither do we.

If peeps want to start getting personal in a debate, i suggest YT or ATS.......

My apologies. I thought real life was acceptable, and not something to shy away from. I don't like CONTROL MIND tactics that push people into only saying or presenting sugar coated information. I'm not in the best mood right now after my reply to Sky Otter was deleted. The ptb could have just edited out the offensive part about sticking things in a particular cavity--THAT I would have no issue with, but in my own defense, SHE ATTACKED ME FIRST! My tag line is there for a damn good reason...it lets you KNOW I'm not here to be attacked personally. My offerings you can slice and dice relative to ideas or inventions, but NOT IN A PERSONAL WAY.

By the way...that was nationally broadcasted "NEWS." Sky Otter brought Mr. Rogers into this! He was a sniper who had many kills. He would agree, the truth is the truth, like it or not.

Peace and Love,
JD

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 16, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
Oh dear....

Lets remember that this is a FAMILY site, we don't need blood & guts pictures, if you want that, go see a horror flick. While JD had a reason for posting the film, it would have been better to just post the LINK with a WARNING that it contained graphic material.

Yes, the presence of the military (standing around doing nothing while all the medics were running to & fro) is rather suspicious. At the same time, they could of just been in shock. Medics see blood every day, your average soldier hasn't.

However, that last post was removed (not by me) because it was  personal & offensive. Sky is right, we should be focussing on caring & looking for clues, not sensationalism.

Anything else is just heresay, especially since no-one knows exactly what happened at this point.

JD you will have to take a chill pill & moderate your language, if you want to have a go at someone, please use the PM button, we don't all need to see it, in your own words;
"I don't need to see it"
Neither do we.

If peeps want to start getting personal in a debate, i suggest YT or ATS.......

The military is NOT used to blood?  They are NOT trained to deal with blood?  And They don't look "shocked."  They look "business as usual."

Here's another pic of TV screen shots.  A link between Sandy Hook & the bombing involving a woman from the grave?

https://twitter.com/FunnyPicsDepot/status/324204872725581825/photo/1/large

And My screen shot of the pic:

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/SandyHook-BostonConnection.png)

as im just getting back in.
sky i adore you but you did call him out.
fools is a painful word to some folks.
personally i dont need pics from msm for they are liars.
just the facts which at this point are lining up against the gov.
last week atf said they needed more power to access info that was private.
now atf is going to be busy with this and can justify their request.

911 .drill was going on that day.
sandyhook. drill was going on that day.
boston .drill and release of mass trauma pads released that day.
be very of drills.or im just a conspiracy nut

Like i said, most military have never seen a body up close, medics have.

yes it is suspicious to say the least, and credit goes to JD for pointing it out.

As for the pictures, this is MSM we're talking about, drunken hacks pulling pictures from wherever they find them, not even bothering to check the facts, so that doesn't surprise me in the least..

Also, ATS has forbidden members to post ANY references to victims of Sandy Hook....??

Conspiracy? Probably, but here at PRC we like to concentrate on the facts, such as they are, and if no facts are present, then all we are doing is playing guessing games.

Now, lets see if we can't get some facts on the table, THEN we can theorise...

since its the same headshot with different headlines .that proves the msm was in on it.

I have offered four (or more) facts...

Drill of bombs going off on the day bombs went off

Odd that military was present in FULL GARB (WHY were They there FULLY laden?)

Live feed of witnesses failed

Sandy Hook dead principle was at marathon

The legless war vet surely looks like the "runner" that "lost legs..."

Here, I offer a screen shot.  The "leg" looks more like Hollywood prop that a real leg.  I bet it was attached and the connection hidden with that bandage (WHY is the bandage THERE???)

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/WarVic-BombVic.png)

Good, now we are getting somewhere....

The 'bomb' apparently went off halfway up a building, most of the injuries were from flying glass, so how does someone manage to lose a leg from debris falling from above? Head wounds, yes, but legs?

keep it coming, peeps.

From the footage, the explosion was ground level.  The report of an explosion in mid-building came from a voice-only female "reporter" for Fox News...  I am betting that that report was added to be able to claim "falling glass."

Also, in looking at the explosion, it goes straight up - NOT outwards - and I am having a difficult time seeing how it could have injured anyOne on the street.

And the best evidence is "Dawn"/"Donna."

Somamech

What part of HEY! THERE'S EVIDENCE that Ammy posted aren't you understanding?...and so why not pursue it? What is it with people willfully ignoring the obvious!? WHAT'S UP!? A felony has occurred, and two grand pieces of evidence are posited, so...the rest (in my opinion--alone, if need be) is just diverting from the truth here, as it plainly appears to be. Are you going to say that Ammy's post does NOT constitute proof of a conspiracy? Why?

What purpose can there be to ask everyone to not discuss what we're discussing, claiming it's for the benefit of victims!? If I were a victim in this situation I'd damn sure appreciate what appears to be solid evidence being pursuid, because even if it won't bring back the dead, it's the right thing to do. You don't let people (especially the media and government officials) get away with it! THAT would be a disservice to the memory of those victims, sir. PERIOD.

Peace and Love,
JD

Seeing as this thread was split while I was in the middle of writing my post, I will copy it here as well

Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 16, 2013, 10:34:25 PM
I'm not trying to inflame;

Yet it seems you are doing a fine job of that regardless...

::)

QuoteAmmy has posted what appears to be proof of a conspiracy between the government and the news media. How is THAT irrelevant? I'm not speculating...it's PROOF. .

As you say  what APPEARS to be proof. On the other hand the mainstream media is NOTORIOUS for 'enhancing' the news to stir up the populous. Remeber that Chines Missile off California? That was a News network that was having slow sales that used a jetliner contrail and called it a missile. That story went viral and I bet today there are hundreds of people who will argue that it was a missile, no matter how stupid that is :P

QuoteThis warrants an indictment of some sort, and charges being leveled wherever applicable

Well Pegasus was set up as a scientific alternative research site. We are not a law enforcement agencies and cannot indict anyone. We are also not a political forum though we do allow people to dicuss topics of interest.

Its a discussion forum, not an activist group... and as such many people will have many opinions.

If you really have proof that incidents like these are perpitrated by 'da gubment' then perhaps you need to seek the right channels that can do something about it   8)

Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 16, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
My apologies. I thought real life was acceptable, and not something to shy away from. I don't like CONTROL MIND tactics that push people into only saying or presenting sugar coated information. I'm not in the best mood right now after my reply to Sky Otter was deleted.

8. There are no real rules about posting.
9. There are no real rules about moderation either - enjoy your ban.
12. Anything you say can and will be used against you.
14. Do not argue with trolls - it means that they win.
-- The Rules of the Internet

There are precisely three places on the Internet where you can speak your mind relatively freely, that I know of; 4chan.org, Usenet, and Facebook.  Private forums, on the other hand, are exactly that; private.  This means that the owners of said forums generally apply and enforce implicit rules relating to their own individual preferences, which for reasons of politeness are generally not explicitly described within a forum's formal rules.

I recently took a temporary hiatus from this forum, due primarily to an awareness that I had allowed myself to be persistently antagonised by a few different individuals here, who I will not name.  I realised, however, that because at least two of said individuals hold greater authority within this forum's hierarchy than I do, the only appropriate action was to withdraw.

The administrators of this forum, as any other, can (and at times presumably will) delete any amount of the material that is posted here, whenever they feel like it.  If we are not among the owners of said forum, our only remedy in such a scenario is to leave.  I will admit that it has done much for my peace of mind, to have found relatively neutral territory (4chan and Usenet, as mentioned) in which to converse, as it means that when individuals within private forums begin to antagonise me to an unacceptable degree, in online terms, I still have somewhere else to go.

If someone here upsets you, then if said someone is in a position of authority here, do not openly rage or complain about it; it will only make the situation worse, and potentially result in your permanent removal.  Instead, either go to one of the other neutral venues already listed, or find a constructive means of venting your frustration offline.

Another piece of advice that I would offer you, is to learn to avoid taking it personally when someone else does not like you.  I am gradually coming to realise that if someone else feels a need to regularly remind me of how much older, more knowledgeable, or supposedly more mature they are than me, that that is generally a reliable indication that said individual finds me deeply threatening, and needs to remind both of us of their alleged superiority, in order to attempt to maintain psychological equilibrium.

Know yourself, accept yourself, and recognise others' attempts at condescension as an external projection of their own pain; which, in reality, has nothing whatsoever to do with you.  Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power actually goes so far as to recommend that if we do not have any enemies, the best thing we can do for ourselves is to get some.  They are far more effective teachers and fortifiers of our character than our friends will ever be.

Quote from: robomont on April 16, 2013, 07:00:02 PM
since its the same headshot with different headlines .that proves the msm was in on it.

There ya go  :D

if i ever come across too aggressive please speak up for i consider yall like great friends.me and amy disagree alot but i sincerely appreciate her feedback.
armap and i butt heads too.
this place is awesome.
we all have bad days.

Quote from: petrus4 on April 17, 2013, 01:53:02 AM
There are precisely three places on the Internet where you can speak your mind relatively freely, that I know of; 4chan.org, Usenet, and Facebook.

Umm Facebook deletes a LOT of posts :D  so your down to TWO and i never visited those so I can't verify that :P

QuotePrivate forums, on the other hand, are exactly that; private.  This means that the owners of said forums generally apply and enforce implicit rules relating to their own individual preferences, which for reasons of politeness are generally not explicitly described within a forum's formal rules.

Well we have them laid out in plain English... I wonder how many people actually have bothered to READ our rules? Granted most are general forum etiqutte, but still I doubt more than 10% of posters ever bother reading the rules on any forum they visit.

People also forget thet FREE SPEECH comes with  price and a limitation... that limitation is also written in the Constitution... I know that paper isn't worth much these days BUT those screaming 'Freedom of Speech" still wave it around...

It is written....

Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, as with libel, slander, obscenity, sedition (including, for example inciting ethnic hatred), copyright violation, revelation of information that is classified or otherwise.

QuoteI recently took a temporary hiatus from this forum

,

Awww we missed ya :P

QuoteThe administrators of this forum, as any other, can (and at times presumably will) delete any amount of the material that is posted here, whenever they feel like it. 

Actually very little is deleted. Even the entire Mikado/Brown comedy drama is still on record (just not currently for public view as there was nothing in that but constant bickering between two adults acting like two year olds :P)

But when one member attacks another, it is no longer freedom of speech. All it does is disrupt and otherwise distract from the forum. If you can't make a valid point without attcking an apponent personally then taking a hiatus is a wise choice ;)

QuoteIf we are not among the owners of said forum, our only remedy in such a scenario is to leave.  I will admit that it has done much for my peace of mind, to have found relatively neutral territory (4chan and Usenet, as mentioned) in which to converse, as it means that when individuals within private forums begin to antagonise me to an unacceptable degree, in online terms, I still have somewhere else to go.

Go in peace  8)

QuoteIf someone here upsets you, then if said someone is in a position of authority here, do not openly rage or complain about it; it will only make the situation worse, and potentially result in your permanent removal.  Instead, either go to one of the other neutral venues already listed, or find a constructive means of venting your frustration offline.

People that get angry over forum posts RARELY can vent constructively. They usually just bitch about how they were wronged over here (or wherever it was) hoping others will agree with them and pat them on the head :D  But yeah calling aa admin a shill is not likely to get you popular :P

QuoteAnother piece of advice that I would offer you, is to learn to avoid taking it personally when someone else does not like you.  I am gradually coming to realise that if someone else feels a need to regularly remind me of how much older, more knowledgeable, or supposedly more mature they are than me, that that is generally a reliable indication that said individual finds me deeply threatening, and needs to remind both of us of their alleged superiority, in order to attempt to maintain psychological equilibrium.

Good advice.  My signature at ATS said

"The louder the opposition protests the more I know I am on the right track"

and this..

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer

omg.wtf?.
that blows my mind.

gold and applause.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2013, 02:50:58 AM
(image snip to save space)

I also give you gold for this, Thor.  If this doesn't prove it, then I guess nothing will.  Smoking gun evidence, there.

Okay so  I just did the same google search...  I went down 48 pages and was not able to reproduce any of those dates.

I guess they must have repaired them all then? 

Here it is try it yourselves and show me where I missed those dates

https://www.google.com/search?q=boston+marathon+explosion

Google image seacrch (https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivgQ3T-ZqMo1TyNTN8G5xrjGKGTwhuFGjRMGfH_12UANpUNZ_1bZj3nEaYuoQ-iwK2hj7ihKrkO23GNGjZ2yMxUl956ZWvDspKA8XKM6-Q21VP9ovINPFWVEH864YkTbSM0EPCBM5URFIUgjm89c7d0X2Lg14-4MVJaQxrAQ70FlflYDCkRWCDM4MRLRrcZ6TcYmvALWSJQ_117bwbUSUHTDKIDEkDKdV3NUzXit5noV32MerPCj-6EutCWYbm4sz15I4QR39wBUb9HIQM9cgH3OJyyNCCEvGq8Uq05r5TtVca5NsnEw4WB2DD8TbzEJHYUuJruggg8MnRn-24295NuDu6WqjIATnt3R-elrAR4Nj9rRb_1wO6vlIW-O0788mg2PqI9ndhgmVjYhFKQOLpkgJ7YPlvrWUshpaT8VIxraggVzbXdrmiIAAswlUhqElMU8KRAAgquPG9eCSNTSHkO6DvkKmLay6d74k0PU9080Mq6FzlEDe9aCMH60Q_1KoFRGKWXbnhW9yZbpL8tWTnFdWB0RNTkdtgf5XQ-Hcf0a6I51t-NerPppIzRROqwUYIXzM3XTAkn3-g39q2bXtsqhgXl5KTpNq5QkXipdvOlNAxchODFKofpMkUpDlVj--oDBWtI-cfVJzkFxDTMCRTSTdKFHSckSW-vNc5wz8K8F-44pdJ2yY89PNa-s8U4uFiErOHeeACbMdtHpLCtA9n1JGCKgei7hLU-L8qufV7uP4ifkMApi7ACSkqlQxC3v4AUS_1wkYanqXFx0al3rsaxLH_1nTdCB0ytuVJTwU9862ehIyT17DUM0zkQVj1PsdBqu2CB9M_1vufCaPnAMe7H0bpl1AVS7EG8qRR9FkApJYXmaTudc9OFb0Dm6QTuDpTwG740ljUaF45UE6ZQXR24IZgMDUNgRELbHoDNzF18BfB94VsmAMB57wqBz3iiXSG3l71W3Rwx3gAC30et-gauhxxk7fU7i1ppQ3qeKd2ADqrhus4duJn33Bd5LQwzDn3HGicyrHJEn6_1CKZVyoOzz3wa3rW0jrVY9J7Y34QmaeF-VUBaHw-eHQ0mqKQZljV4D-s2uD2sNd05YNqYir8EJCUbX8U4FJZBMWLMrLj1gmxL5PZ1ntSCQUW8gTR2zi2NB5uov49OGpwf5cw_15s2Hk6jeB9VYyc3wJKMWtqJzXH3gW8ESZ1O974U4M9Uo_1oTW_1a6U2aYg9CE4tbzWe7qsXMw6vNHg42B8k9ZFRLl3SQdRnZSIexVIqDtXbBBcLetoU8dJO7KuzNMYqHS5CUkrpNk8Zg4iPxl6UnlDFvsk1nQXq3aFUKBcg0ZY&btnG=Search%20by%20image&client=firefox-a&hs=yDK&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=592) shows this is already spreading around the net Like David Icke

So what is the source of this image? Seems easy enough to cut and paste some dates....

::)

I couldn't find them either. Must be a conspiracy then? ::)

Okay Source of Thor's image  posted at David Icke

Two comments .....

nocternald
you have posted a screen dump of a google search you did with a date range from 1 - 14 april results returned are from pages that were created on or before 14 april and have been updated to include more recent events
what is your motive?

dentedarthur
The thing you need to be aware of those dates show the time each page was 'physically' created.
Those pages BEFORE the explosions had different media on them, those pages have all been edited after the bombings happened.
There is no conspiracy here.

Reply from the OP of that picture...

kirkie "Fair play. thanks for clearing that up. "

And something you don't see a lot of at David icke's forum :P

sean
Webmaster & Producer

Ok guys,

Enough of the bickering. Any more personal insults towards other members will be deleted and points issued. Take it off of this thread please.

I guess they are having issues that need moderation too :P

bummer man ; (

well theres still the soldier no legs guy ? and the sandyhook principle ?

bombing without s message? seems like revenge  or nwo ploy.

Isn't it odd that so MANY pages at so disparate sites ALL were originally created just before the marathon - 1 to 3 days - and all "had the content updated?"  *I* would think that They would create new pages for the marathon explosions and NOT ALL just edit content on a preexisting page.  So I might expect to find ONE such occurrence - and not SIX (that We can see)... Yes, two are from the same org, so We might say five, but still.  THAT many doing that???

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 17, 2013, 04:50:28 AM
Yes, two are from the same org, so We might say five, but still.  THAT many doing that???

Well there is a simple test...

do the same search for any other breaking news story.

If the same thing happens on other stories... then you have an answer. 

I do it all the time on my website as I update old pages with news and changes. I don't redo the page, just the content

But let me ask you this..

what is worse..

The PTB doing such deeds...

...or people faking pictures etc to stir of a CT?

Are they not both equally dangerous?

Any fabrication is an issue, yes.

Who's faking pics?

Well, I don't know about all of the if's, and's, and but's about all of this, but somewhere in this happening, Someone should be stepping up to say "we goofed". And that someone is our dear own "Department of Homeland Security". Isn't DHS's sole purpose in life to protect American's from terrorism???

Well if so, THEY FAILED!! They failed in many ways, but maybe the most obvious of their failures....................how many DHS people were either wounded or killed in the explosions? For sure if they were doing their jobs, wouldn't DHS have had many "boots on the ground" at the Boston Marathon?

I am not suggesting necessarily that they could have prevented it, but, how could they not have been all around the finish line/bombing areas? Major sporting events have been widely discussed as possible terrorist targets, so, where was DHS when the bombs blew?

I certainly have not heard every word of news on this, but at no time have I heard it mentioned that any Law Enforcement personnel, and for sure no DHS personnel, were directly involved in the blast effects.

In my opinion, we should be hearing from Janet Neo........, telling us how she and her DHS organization failed America, and what are the plans for the future - like maybe resignation!!!

If there are actually no Law Enforcement personnel injuries and no DHS injuries in these explosions, as all such should have been very present at an event like this, then I would say, "SOMETHING SMELLS IN DEMARK"!

i agree.

Have you guys seen this yet?
http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/4chan-boston.jpg

It is from this site.

CAUTION GRAPHIC PICTURES ASSOCIATED WITH LINK

http://cryptome.org/2013-info/04/boston-bombs/boston-bombs.htm

These are very close pictures and graphic.  I also have mp4 movies if anyone is interested.  I think I can link them.

MAY CONTAIN GRAPHIC PICTURES

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatango/sets/72157633252445135/with/8652877581/

There are 150 pictures on this link taken by a man whose office was above the blast.

Pictures before and after.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/10010384080855/exclusive-fbi-investigating-photo-that-shows-bag/

The after picture shows a piece of the bomb bag which contained the lid of the pressure cooker used.  It's right next to the mans' left foot.  The pressure cooker lid will be the weakest part.  The rest of the pressure cooker can withstand a pretty high pressure but the metal lips cannot and pressure cookers are only designed for a certain amount of pressure.  Instead of blowing in an omni-directional way, I believe they were more direction much like a shape charge.  This type of IED has been used in Afghanistan by Taliban.  Not saying that this was instigated by foreigners, but someone could find this on the Internet.  I have no opinion at this point because of no real proof.  Looking at the picture, the close proximity of the bag to the mailbox and injured people, I would say there is a picture of one bomb in a tan bag which may have contained the black nylon bag containing the bomb.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/16/a-short-history-of-pressure-cooker-bombs/

Quote from: LSWONE on April 17, 2013, 05:22:17 PM
Have you guys seen this yet?
http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/4chan-boston.jpg

Very interesting LSWONE.

They are caucasian.

I might as well post this here, I think it may tie in, maybe not.

Vandalism At San Jose PG&E Substation Called 'Sabotage'
sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/16/gunshots-cause-oil-spill-at-san-jose-pge-substation/)

QuoteIn apparent acts of "sabotage" in the South Bay early Tuesday, someone cut fiber optic cables, knocking out some 911 service, and then fired a rifle at a PG&E substation, Santa Clara County's sheriff said.

The vandal's objective appears to have been "shutting down the system," Sheriff Laurie Smith said at a news conference at the substation Tuesday afternoon.

         www.ktvu.com (http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/vandals-shoot-south-bay-pge-transformer/nXNMf/)
      enenews.com (http://enenews.com/sabotage-high-powered-rifle-used-in-attack-on-california-power-substation-same-perpetrators-cut-att-fiberoptic-cables-objective-was-shutting-down-the-system-fbi-now-leading-investig)

Please check this link!
They have pictures of people in the area with back packs and later not back packs.

There is a few pictures of two guys who look like military types with back packs and both on phones.
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/17/reports_suspect_arrested_in_boston_marathon_case/

A suspect now in custody and that's all they said for right now.  They used video to find him.

4chan thinktank.good job if its not photoshopped.
deums got his work cut out for him .lol

Quote from: LSWONE on April 17, 2013, 06:36:05 PM

There is a few pictures of two guys who look like military types with back packs and both on phones.
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

Thanks LSWONE,

likely they donned Mil type clothing to get by with little scrutiny for a
good start...sad to see some people already blaming Navy Seals
for this, really sad.

Never mind.

Quote from: spacemaverick on April 17, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
Pictures before and after.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/10010384080855/exclusive-fbi-investigating-photo-that-shows-bag/ (http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/10010384080855/exclusive-fbi-investigating-photo-that-shows-bag/)

The after picture shows a piece of the bomb bag which contained the lid of the pressure cooker used.  It's right next to the mans' left foot.  The pressure cooker lid will be the weakest part.  The rest of the pressure cooker can withstand a pretty high pressure but the metal lips cannot and pressure cookers are only designed for a certain amount of pressure.  Instead of blowing in an omni-directional way, I believe they were more direction much like a shape charge.  This type of IED has been used in Afghanistan by Taliban.  Not saying that this was instigated by foreigners, but someone could find this on the Internet.  I have no opinion at this point because of no real proof.  Looking at the picture, the close proximity of the bag to the mailbox and injured people, I would say there is a picture of one bomb in a tan bag which may have contained the black nylon bag containing the bomb.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/16/a-short-history-of-pressure-cooker-bombs/ (http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/16/a-short-history-of-pressure-cooker-bombs/)

I took a look at the garbage bag next to the mail box and the second view. There is a circle of energy behind where the gate was. The front of the photo where the street is, has been blurred out but I can almost make out that bag as still being there. Notice also the gate is blown out towards the street and wrapped around the mail box. That matches the area I was talkin about. Seems most of the force went up.
Deuem

so from what i see.the fbi is attempting to allow the suspects to escape.
it looks like anonymous beat the fbi in finding them and now the fbi is asking the msm to be patient in releasing the photos to the public but alex jones and ats and drudge already have and the world knows what these guys look like.

so this tells me the fbi doesnt want help .just like jfk.
they want a patsy and not the real criminals who will be shuttled out of the country before they can be caught.

Quote from: deuem on April 17, 2013, 08:43:30 PM

I took a look at the garbage bag next to the mail box and the second view. There is a circle of energy behind where the gate was. The front of the photo where the street is, has been blurred out but I can almost make out that bag as still being there. Notice also the gate is blown out towards the street and wrapped around the mail box. That matches the area I was talkin about. Seems most of the force went up.
Deuem

Outstanding, as usual, my friend.


DEUEMLIGHT brings forth another trick in the forensic investigator toolbag!

GOLD!

Shall we forward this to the appropriate authorities?

so aj has vid of alabama track coach saying there was absolutely a bomb drill and the gov and chief saying there wasnt.

sounds like aj has the feds in a corner.

lookin more like a false flag.

Just a forking second.

This is too easy... stay tuned...

Robo - right as rain - as usual    ;)

Look at the lower right at 23 sec.  Watch the puddle of gore vanish as the man (center at 23 sec) walks past it.  *POOF*

Yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSnP5E4ASu8

Quote from: robomont on April 17, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
4chan thinktank.good job if its not photoshopped.
deums got his work cut out for him .lol

Anonymous (as in the group) are not on 4chan much any more.  They mostly have their own sites now; Anonops and so on.

Anon have had no respect on 4chan since they got involved with Occupy, mainly because 4chan is hard right, politically speaking; and Anon used to be too.  If you post Anonymous imagery on 4chan you get called names and sworn at, now.

Mind you, part of the reason is also probably because how much more mainstream 4chan is these days.  Moot has started charging money for passes, (the equivalent of a subscription which lets you bypass the posting captcha, mainly) and the moderation staff are much more active now than they used to be, as well. 

Some of the boards like /b/ and /gif/ can still be as gross and pornographic as they always were, but truly stimulating conversation has become a lot more difficult to find.  That is mainly because the place gets constantly raided by both Leftist fanatics from Reddit, and the Jewish Internet Defense Force (http://www.jidf.org/) (a real group) who want to shut the entire site down, due to the right wing extremists who are 4chan's more traditional userbase.

i didnt know that about anonymous.
thankyou petrus.

just to add the lone suspect was deported on national security reasons and had family in gitmo and had a private photo of him wearing royal family clothing.

the president had an emergency meeting with the saudi gov today also.

Quote from: petrus4 on April 18, 2013, 03:52:12 AM
Anon have had no respect on 4chan since they got involved with Occupy, mainly because 4chan is hard right, politically speaking; and Anon used to be too.  If you post Anonymous imagery on 4chan you get called names and sworn at, now.

HA! And you said 4chan you can post anything :P

Neener Neener  8)

Problem with Anon is no one knows who or what Anon is because they are anonymous and anyone can claim to be Anon... so there is no way to know what policy or action comes from the 'true' Anon, whoever they are since Anon has no organizations    :o

::)

Silly Lemmings :P

go to 1:20 on the yt to skip right into the important part

..really...really really...

if a 'bad' person thinks they are distroying something..
then they really need to see that they are uniting something...


perhaps we all need a rethink  what is happening
maybe the nasty nudge is not what you first think it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwKRpCDDAc


BOSTON
Rene Rancourt, the Boston Bruins' iconic anthem singer, delivered perhaps the most memorable performance of his career Wednesday night. It lasted about 15 seconds.



BRUINS RETURN
See photos from the Boston Bruins' first game after the marathon bombings.
At that point in his rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner," Rancourt let the microphone drift away from his lips. The crowd – who came to smile, to cheer, to weep, to be – knew instantly what the gesture meant. On this night, of all nights, the song and its message did not belong to one man.

And so the city stood in soulful carol, Rancourt conducting the full-throated chorus of 17,565, in one of the most moving scenes I've witnessed – sports or otherwise. I coaxed the words out, too. Barely. Turns out it's hard to cry and sing at the same time.http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/boston-bruins-return-to-ice-vs-buffalo-sabres-as-community-heals-after-marathon-bombings-041713



;) just an opinion

Here's a gif...  I got a chuckle.

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/BostonBSgif.gif)

Quote from: burntheships on April 17, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
Thanks LSWONE,

likely they donned Mil type clothing to get by with little scrutiny for a
good start...sad to see some people already blaming Navy Seals
for this, really sad.

Yeah...  GOLDE star winner of the WEEK  ;D

Although I stopped following this story in general... The Victims of the Boston Marathon will run on with me when I complete the Melbourne Marathon in October.   

Proof US Mil Train hard even if they have a lax job as alien watchers :D

Insanity Workout For The Military With Shaun T

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEdWXcBmFT8

Point is that it aint so strange for the REAL Mil to be at an American event like the Boston recruiting :P

yea black backpacks with the same markings as the ones carrying the bombs and fatigue pants uncuffed at the boot and also carrying loaded down backpacks.
but maybe i misread the photos?

Quote from: sky otter on April 18, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
if a 'bad' person thinks they are distroying something..
then they really need to see that they are uniting something...

THAT is a VERY GOOD POINT

IF 'da gubment' is doing all this, all they would do in reality is waken the SLEEPING GIANT and "We the Peeps..." would ralley and gather strength... and once awake would be a force to be recond with.

Germany and Japan found out what happens when you poke the Tiger enough to waken him :D and they paid HEAVY

It is true that most Americans have become complacent apathetic and slothful over the years since WWII

BUT take away jobs and their income and their homes... try to take their guns... then try to pull the stuff you CTers are saying is going on...

All that will happen is "WE THE PEEPS..." will unite, stock up weapons (record EVER gun sales and permist have been recorded in the last few months) and stand ready to fight.

So why would 'da gubment' risk waking the SLEEPING GIANT?  They need us to be SHEEP and pay our taxes without complaint.  An unrully mob that they need to wipe out would not give them any control at all

So rethink...

Just WHO is stirring the REAL POT?

IF  'da gubment' was really 'out to get us'  pulling stunts like this (as some people claim) MAKES NO SENSE at all... THEY have the power to just send in the troups and round us up and put us into those FEMA cames yawl are ranting about...

So pulling stunts like this that only server to stir up the people would not be very smart...

HOWEVER  if a certain group of dissidents/anarchists/wannabe terrorists had a plan to over throw 'da gubment'... then I would expect EXACTLY such tactics to stir the people into revolt

Food for thought :D

I need a coffee and a sandwhich :P

yeah exactly Z....

what have these so called gub-to-get-us done

make us safe in our homes?
made us sleep easier?
made us more complacent in where and what we do?

or

are you paying more attention wo those around you
are you more careful of where and what you do
are you NOW carrying a weapon where before you would never think of it

if you were going to round folk up to do anything with them..would you
tell them to have an emergency plan and be prepared?

REALLY????


humanity is certainly waking up...maybe not as thought


you really ought not to poke unless you want to get stung

think about it

and still no statement from the bomber.
no conspiracy here but cispa passed yesterday.obam the baby whined twice live on the boob tube.
atf requested more open records last week.

its time to have a new monster.muslims arent scary anymore.
now we need internal terrorist white american patriots.
gotta get the bubbas caged.
your neighbor is flying an american flag and believes in the constitution.see say something and receive $100,000 from obamas new stimulus program.part of the feds continued pump and dump schedule.

Quote from: robomont on April 18, 2013, 12:39:39 AM
so from what i see.the fbi is attempting to allow the suspects to escape.
it looks like anonymous beat the fbi in finding them and now the fbi is asking the msm to be patient in releasing the photos to the public but alex jones and ats and drudge already have and the world knows what these guys look like.

so this tells me the fbi doesnt want help .just like jfk.
they want a patsy and not the real criminals who will be shuttled out of the country before they can be caught.

Reminds me of 9-11     :'(

Edward

Should I Plan a Vacation to America or are you all Crazy ?

:o

You guy's make USA to be a baron worse than OZ.

Sure we share the same suckyness...  I could use my own country as a fine example but hey rise up above it and eat some apple pie :P

People and situations change from being nice, trading, and changing of value's. 

the people are crazy and gov is crazier just like down under.
yall are just better at denial and being polite
.bullet or bat
.means to an end.

Quote from: Somamech on April 18, 2013, 10:09:22 PM
Should I Plan a Vacation to America or are you all Crazy ?

Yeah come to Vegas  and we can do Calif, Arizona and Nevada  :D

Hundreds of square miles og beautiful scenary and barely a Hu-mon in site

i just saw fbi released photos and i call bs.those backpacks arent carrying no bomb.those arent the 4chan pics .

Reporter "We've seen alot of people doing amateur detective work trying to spot you know, where's Waldo. I think what the are saying is don't do that, just stick with the pictures we've given".

This is from the second video posted on this page. I have not watched the first one at top of page yet. It could be the same video.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17784776-fbi-releases-video-of-two-dangerous-suspects-in-boston-bombing?lite%3E1=43001

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 16, 2013, 06:43:27 PM
Here's another pic of TV screen shots.  A link between Sandy Hook & the bombing involving a woman from the grave?

https://twitter.com/FunnyPicsDepot/status/324204872725581825/photo/1/large

And My screen shot of the pic:

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/SandyHook-BostonConnection.png)

My first reaction was how could they be so careless.

Anyways my research suggests that it was Donna Page (replacement  Principle in Newtown) that was at the Marathon, and they used the wrong photo.  MSM at its finest again.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/f246/so-principal-sandy-hook-boston-marathon-501408/index3.html

QuoteInfowars reporter Dan Bidondi was at the FBI press conference and attempted to get questions answered about bomb drills that eyewitnesses said were taking place on the morning of the marathon, but was ignored and subsequently confronted by two large men at the end of the conference.

In not only ignoring but aggressively attempting to discredit the photos showing men who are likely employees of the private security firm Craft International on the scene of the bombings engaged in some kind of drill, the FBI has signaled its intention to continue the cover-up of what really happened.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi-ignores-men-with-backpacks-at-scene-of-boston-bombings.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi-ignores-men-with-backpacks-at-scene-of-boston-bombings.html)

Here is a very good article w/pictures about "The Craft" presences there.

Private military operatives hired to 'work' the Boston marathon with black backpacks, radiation detectors, tactical gear

http://www.naturalnews.com/039977_The_Craft_Boston_marathon_private_military_contractors.html

This is going down deeper in the Rabit Hole.

Be sure and click on (more articles) Shows their van

I would post pictures, but I can't with the computer as it is.

great find.

According to the FBI, they have two suspects...
with the help from one man who has lost his legs
in the bombings.   :(

The man who was pictured earlier in the thread,
the one in the wheelchair....when he awoke he was able
to tell the investigators that he looked into the eyes
of the man who blew his legs off....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/boston-bombing-victim-in-iconic-photo-helped-identify-attackers.html

The picture below at the link was taken with an iphone, shows a higher
resolution snap of one of the suspects.  This comes from redditors, who
picked up the image from facebook..., and then called the FBI.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/new-higher-resolution-image-of-boston-marathon-suspect-emerges/

Quote from: Somamech on April 18, 2013, 10:09:22 PM
Should I Plan a Vacation to America or are you all Crazy ?

:o

America has a depressingly high degree of similarity to the east coast of Australia.  The country is some of the most beautiful on the planet, but the people are some of the very worst.

Ouch, I'm East coast

Quote from: deuem on April 19, 2013, 08:48:20 AM
Ouch, I'm East coast

So am I; Victorian.  Whenever I see either hard Right fascists or white supremacist racists on either YouTube or 4chan, I can always very safely rely on them being either American or Australian; and if Australian, they will unfailingly be from Sydney.  The Oceanic (Australian) servers for World of Warcraft were generally known to socially be the worst in the game; and again, the population of such were generally from Sydney as well.

My advice to anyone visiting this country consists of two rules:-

a}  Either stay off the East coast, or
b}  Stay north of Sydney.

The urban southeast coast is, at this point, for all practical intents and purposes, a sattelite of America; in cultural, political, and economic terms.  All of our businesses are American owned, and all of Obama's speeches etc get screened here as part of our evening news.  As a result, Victoria has some of the most repressive drug and weapon laws in the country.  Melbourne and Sydney are generally considered the worst cities socially in the country, (although Melbourne is also one of the environmentally cleanest cities in the world) and Sydney has the worst urban design that I've ever heard of.

Economically and environmentally speaking, I love living in this country; but as people, Australians are the laughing stock of the planet.

Quote from: petrus4 on April 19, 2013, 08:05:34 AM
.... but the people are some of the very worst.

Seems to me that depends on who you hang out with :P

The grinch doesn't like anyone either :P (and he is green too :D )


(http://greaterthanknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/stank.jpg)

Quote from: petrus4 on April 19, 2013, 09:00:05 AM
So am I; Victorian.  Whenever I see either hard Right fascists or white supremacist racists on either YouTube or 4chan, I can always very safely rely on them being either American or Australian;

We have them in the UK too. They are a particularly intelligent strain of racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfQiXLOON0

i am only putting this here for anyone who hasn't been smacked in the face with it
tons more info just as i copied this..i'm sure it is on all news sources


http://www.msn.com/?PC=msnHomeST&OCID=msnHomepage
BOSTON SUSPECT DEAD; MANHUNT ON FOR THE OTHER
Boston is locked down as police hunt for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev after his brother was killed overnight.

Timeline of terror hunt | Entire city of Boston on lockdown
WATCH LIVE: NBC News Special Report



Boston on lockdown during marathon manhunt for white-hat suspect

By Pete Williams, Richard Esposito, Michael Isikoff and Tracy Connor, NBC News
Boston and its suburbs, universities and transit system were on total lockdown Friday as police hunted for marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev -- on the loose after his accomplice brother was killed in a stunning chain of events that left one cop dead and another injured, officials said.

During a desperate effort to flee after their photos were released by the FBI, the brothers carjacked a Mercedes SUV and told the driver they were the men behind Monday's double-blast attack at the iconic race and had just killed a campus security officer, a source told NBC News. The driver was released unhurt.

The older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed after a wild chase and firefight, but Dzhokhar was still at large in a densely populated area, and an associate was being sought. Adding to the nightmare, an explosive was found in Boston Friday morning and disabled, an official said.

Three dozen FBI agents were surrounding the Cambridge, Mass., home where the brothers, of Chechen origin, grew up after moving to the U.S. a decade ago.

NBC's Lester Holt reports from Watertown, Mass., where Boston and state police, SWAT teams and a helicopter are engaged in a tense search for a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing who is still at large.
Across the area, as police cars screamed down streets and helicopters hovered overhead, authorities urged the public to stay inside and keep their doors locked to anyone but law-enforcement officers.

"There is a massive manhunt under way," Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick said. "We are asking people to shelter in place."

The lockdown initially affected more than 300,000 people in Cambridge, Watertown, Newton, Brighton, Allston and Belmont, but by 8 a.m., the entire city of Boston was paralyzed, officials said.

Watertown, where the second suspect was last seen, was the epicenter of the search. Frightened residents were trapped in their homes as convoys of heavily armed officers and troops arrived by the hour.

Harvard University, Boston University, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Emerson University were all closed and students were told to stay inside. Boston public schools were shuttered for the day.

The overnight violence began near MIT about five hours after the FBI released surveillance photos of the two men suspected of planting two bombs near the finish line of Monday's Boston Marathon, killing three and wounding 176.

Read more: Who are the brothers accused of the Boston Marathon bombing?

Tips about the identity of the suspects were still pouring in when the Tsarnaev brothers fatally shot MIT police officer Sean Collier, 26, in his vehicle at 10:20 p.m., law enforcement officials said.

The brothers -- of Chechen origin, but legal permanent residents of the U.S. -- then carjacked a Mercedes SUV, holding the driver captive for a half-hour before letting him go at a gas station in Cambridge, sources said.

The suspects, who also robbed a 7-Eleven, took off in the car toward Watertown, tossing explosive devices out the window, officials said.

There was a long exchange of gunfire, according to Andrew Kitzenberg of Watertown, who took photos of the clash from his window and spread them on social media.

"They were also utilizing bombs, which sounded and looked like grenades, while engaging in the gunfight," he told NBC News in an interview. "They also had what looked like a pressure-cooker bomb.

"I saw them light this bomb. They threw it towards the officers," he said. "There was smoke that covered our entire street."

A transit officer, identified as Richard H. Donahue, 33, was seriously injured during the pursuit. Authorities said he was in surgery at Mount Auburn Hospital.

Kitzenberg said he saw the firefight end when Tamerlan Tsarnaev ran toward the officers and ultimately fell to the ground.

Tamerlan— the man in the black hat from FBI photos released six hours earlier — had an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest, law enforcement officials said.


Dzhokhar -- who was wearing a white hat in the surveillance photos from the marathon -- drove the SUV through a line of police officers at the end of the street, Kitzenberg said.

Advertise | AdChoicesPolice said Dzhokhar has a Massachusetts driver's license and lived in Cambridge. He was described as light-skinned and with brown, curly hair, and wearing a gray hoodie. The FBI was releasing more photos of him.

His father, in Russia, told the Associated Press he was "a true angel" and described him as a medical student who was expected to visit for the holidays.

Authorities painted a starkly different picture.

"We believe this man to be a terrorist," Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis said. "We believe this to be a man who's come here to kill people."

Armored humvees and busloads of law-enforcement could be seen rolling into Watertown in the hours after the gunfight. A photo showed two officers in military gear lying on a backyard shed with their weapons trained on a home.

"We've got every asset we could possibly muster on the ground right now," Patrick said.

Attorney General Eric Holder and FBI Director Robert Mueller headed to the White House to brief President Obama on the developments.




ok.. thought i had added this but guess not

i am thinking that it was very interesting that putin offered to help in the search for these guys and low and behold..they are russians
now, in my opinion..if you wanted a conspirary to play with..there you go

http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/video.aspx?cp-documentid=cbcc2013-1904-0632-0025-238062465300

Current video on this topic.

richard clark on abc just said the entire city of boston is on lockdown .1000 000 people .trains shut down.
sounds like a police state to me .

the news makes it look like thousands of police and state troopers.

Live scanners on the hunt
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

http://scanner.wickedlocal.com/metro/cambridge.php

Quote from: sky otter on April 19, 2013, 03:51:38 PM
i am thinking that it was very interesting that putin offered to help in the search for these guys and low and behold..they are russians
now, in my opinion..if you wanted a conspirary to play with..there you go

The brothers are Muslim extremists, several media sources
have reported on this, brothers were religious, and proud of it.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/19/dead-boston-bombing-suspect-was-a-very-religious-muslim-boxer/

Once agian, how do people lilke this come to the U.S., live here
for a decade, see that not all Americans are scum, and then
carry out such hateful acts of murder is beyond me.

yes russian muslims
http://www.msn.com/?PC=msnHomeST&OCID=msnHomepage

Three dozen FBI agents were surrounding the Cambridge, Mass., home where the brothers, of Chechen origin, grew up after moving to the U.S. a decade ago.

His father, in Russia, told the Associated Press he was "a true angel" and described him as a medical student who was expected to visit for the holidays.


Once agian, how do people lilke this come to the U.S., live here
for a decade, see that not all Americans are scum, and then
carry out such hateful acts of murder is beyond me.


that's a good question.. did they come with hate and a plan
or what?

Quote from: sky otter on April 19, 2013, 04:55:09 PM

did they come with hate and a plan
or what?

If they were trained in Islam from youth, the basics may have
been instilled, surely they have had heavy influence since from
extremists, either online, or a mosque.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-bomb-suspect-website-islam-links-article-1.1321733

Quote from: burntheships on April 19, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
The brothers are Muslim extremists, several media sources
have reported on this, brothers were religious, and proud of it.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/19/dead-boston-bombing-suspect-was-a-very-religious-muslim-boxer/

Once agian, how do people lilke this come to the U.S., live here
for a decade, see that not all Americans are scum, and then
carry out such hateful acts of murder is beyond me.

Below is a interview from the suspect's Uncle, after this quote is the entire article in full.


"I'm ready to kneel in front of them and ask their forgiveness," Tsarni(Uncle) said of the victims of his nephews' crime. "I respect this country; I love this country ... this country that gives everybody chance to be treated like human being." Tsarni said he and his family are Muslims, but that anyone who connects the crime to religion is a "fraud."


So what ever anyone else hears from any other source,  this is coming from a family member.   Don't believe the hype or the lies that are used to enrage the situation. 


Edward






BOSTON—A late-night police chase and shootout has left one marathon bombing suspect dead and another on the run, police here said, as residents of the still-grieving city were ordered by officials to "shelter in place" while the manhunt continues. One police officer was killed and another was seriously wounded during the violent spree.

Authorities identified the surviving Boston bomb suspect as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, of Cambridge, Mass., and said that the suspects were brothers. The second bombing suspect is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, according to NBC News, who was found with an IED on his body. The brothers' family is originally from Chechnya, a volatile southern Russian republic. Photographer Johannes Hirn took this photo essay of the older brother, a boxer. The captions suggest Tsarnaev came to America as a child with his family as refugees after fleeing the war-torn part of Russia. Dhokhar Tsarnaev posted links to Islamic and pro-Chechnyan independence sites on what appears to be his social media page.

The suspects' uncle told the local CBS News station that the pair had lived in the country since 2002. The uncle, when told that one of his nephews was killed, replied that he deserved it. "He deserved his. He absolutely deserved his," Ruslan Tsarni said. "They do not deserve to live on this earth."

Tsarni said he learned his nephews were suspects by reading a Russian language news source. "Since these people do have association to me by blood, I say they're barbarians," he added.

In an emotional press conference later, Tsarni said his nephews had brought shame upon his family and called them "losers." He said they were not "able to settle themselves" and were "angry at everyone who was able to."

"Dzhokhar, If you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness from the victims, the injured and those who left," he said. "He put a shame on our family. He put a shame on the entire Chechnyan ethnicity. Turn yourself in."

He added that he hadn't been in touch with the family for several years, but would not say why.

"I'm ready to kneel in front of them and ask their forgiveness," Tsarni said of the victims of his nephews' crime. "I respect this country; I love this country ... this country that gives everybody chance to be treated like human being." Tsarni said he and his family are Muslims, but that anyone who connects the crime to religion is a "fraud."

The Wall Street Journal, citing unnamed law enforcement sources, said that one or both of the brothers traveled back to the Caucasus region of Russia for a year or more before returning to America again, but Tsarni said he did not believe either brother had ever been to Chechnya.

Tsarnaev's father, reached by the AP in Russia by phone, said his son was a "true angel" and wonderful student. He later told ABC's Good Morning America that he wanted his son to surrender peacefully.

The University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth announced shortly after 10:30 a.m. on Friday that they were evacuating the entire campus after learning Tsarnaev is a registered student there.

At sunrise, Gov. Deval Patrick ordered a shutdown of all public transit and residents on the edges of Boston to stay indoors as a massive manhunt for the second suspect was underway. The entire city in Boston was under a shelter in place order by late Friday morning. The Boston Globe reported that police are focusing on a 20-block area of Watertown, and fear the suspect may be wearing explosives.

"This situation is grave and we are trying to protect the public safety," said Massachusetts State Police Col. Timothy Alben, who ordered a lockdown of Watertown, Waltham, Belmont, Cambridge, Newton, Allston and Brighton. A no fly zone has been declared over Watertown. The city of Boston was eerily quiet during Friday's rush hour, the city's busy intersections totally abandoned.

Marathon bombing suspect Tsarnaev (FBI)

Federal agents swarmed Watertown after local police were involved in a car chase and shootout with the men identified Thursday by the FBI as Suspect 1 and Suspect 2 in the Boston bombings. During the pursuit, officers could be heard on police radio traffic describing the men as having handguns, grenades and other explosives.

The mayhem began at approximately 10:20 p.m. Thursday when police said the bombing suspects robbed a 7-Eleven store in Cambridge. Minutes later, police said, the men shot and killed an MIT campus officer responding to the robbery call. The terror suspects then carjacked a Mercedes-Benz with the driver inside and fled, eventually letting driver go. They were then spotted in Watertown where they exchanged dozens of rounds of gunfire with patrol officers.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was shot by police and brought to Beth Israel Medical Center. He arrived at the hospital under cardiac arrest with multiple gunshot wounds and blast-like injuries to his chest. The second suspect fled on foot, leading to the tense manhunt that is still underway at this hour.

"We believe this to be a terrorist," said Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis. "We believe this to be a man who has come here to kill people. We need to get him into custody."

A transit officer, Richard H. Donohue, was seriously wounded during the exchange of gunfire, officials said.

[Related: FBI releases photos of suspects in Boston Marathon bombings]

Boston police says the suspect who remains at large was the "one in the white hat" seen in the photos released by the FBI on Thursday in the investigation into the twin explosions that killed 3 people and injured 170 others at the Boston Marathon on Monday.

In a radio alert sent issued to fellow officers, the suspect was described as a "white male with dark complexion ... with thick curly hair wearing a charcoal gray hooded sweatshirt ... possibly with an assault rifle and explosives." Police in Watertown, Newton, Brighton and Cambridge were put on high alert. "Units use caution," an officer said. "He might have an explosive object on his person."

Worried residents in Watertown, a suburb about 8 miles from downtown Boston, were ordered to stay indoors and turn off their cell phones out of fear that they could trigger improvised explosive devices.

"Suspect 2" seen in 7-Eleven surveillance footage; police in Watertown (BPD/Getty)

Dozens of police officers, many of them off-duty, searched backyards in pursuit of the second suspect, and a police perimeter of several blocks was established. K9 units and SWAT teams searched homes on Spruce Street as officers with a police robot searched an SUV that the suspects had abandoned. Multiple devices were left in the road and two handguns were recovered, according to police scanners.

Slain MIT police officer Sean Collier. (Middlesex DA)

The Watertown shootout occurred after a gunfight erupted near the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where the MIT police officer, 26-year-old Sean Collier, was shot and later died while responding to the brothers' robbery of the 7-11. The campus was placed on lockdown for several hours, and students were told to remain indoors.

Shortly before 2 a.m. Friday, MIT issued a statement on its website saying that the suspect "in this evening's shooting is no longer on campus. It is now safe to resume normal activities. Please remain vigilant in the coming hours." MIT, Harvard, Boston University and other local colleges have cancelled classes.

President Barack Obama, who attended an interfaith service for the bombing victims in Boston on Thursday, was briefed on the overnight developments, the White House said early Friday.

At approximately 3:30 a.m., Massachusetts State Police issued a plea on Twitter for residents of Watertown to lock their doors and not open them for anyone as they searched backyards and exteriors of houses there.

"Residents in and around Watertown should stay in their residences," the alert read. "Do NOT answer door unless it is an identified police officer."

Police were able to track down images of the suspects after a victim of the attacks, Jeff Bauman, came to them with a description, Bloomberg reported Thursday. Bauman's legs were torn apart by the bomb.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-mit-shooting-explosion-suspect-watertown-064355149.html

An AP story linked from that last article, identifies the brothers as being from Chechnya, which potentially makes things very interesting.  The article implied that they were also possibly from Turkey; which to me simply implies that the media don't want to give up another opportunity for anti-Islamic sensationalism until it becomes clear that they have no other choice.

Before assuming that these sorts of things are always the work of Muslims, it helps to first mentally ask what they would have to gain from it; and the answer is generally not much.  I never believed that bin Laden was behind 9/11, personally; and the only rationale for his involvement that the American government ever gave, was that he was "insane," or "evil," in the Bond supervillain sense of the word.

(http://thinkingscifi.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dr-evil.jpg)

A certain number of Muslims do genuinely want to convert the rest of the planet, yes; but the more intelligent among them understand that in order to do that, they need to try and give Islam a positive image in the eyes of potential converts.  The other major tactic that they are using for global conversion is immigration; the idea is to outnumber the domestic populations of non-Islamic countries, and gradually subvert the legal/political systems there.  It is still devious, yes; but it generally isn't overtly violent.  They intend to use their comparitive birthrate to outnumber non-Islamic ethnic groups generationally.

They normally only engage in suicide bombing when they want something politically, and they don't think they can get it any other way.  Mind you, when I say that, I'm also implying that there needs to be a certain amount of desperation involved; such as the Palestinians in Jerusalem, etc.  The promise of heaven for suicide bombers still does not make them hugely excited about the idea of doing it; most of them aren't necessarily any more willing to die than the rest of us are.

I'm not a huge fan of Islam; but at the same time, I'm also aware that the religion is being used to create further division by the cabal; they're basically being manipulated as an army.  So it's very important to try and stay objective about Muslims if we can.

Quote from: Edward on April 19, 2013, 05:12:34 PM

So what ever anyone else hears from any other source,  this is coming from a family member.   Don't believe the hype or the lies that are used to enrage the situation. 

Right, and uncle that had NO cantact with the boys for the last
eight years, in otherwords its called out of touch with reality.

i would say that for catholics too.just not as much these days.

Quote from: petrus4 on April 19, 2013, 05:14:57 PM

Before assuming that these sorts of things are always the work of Muslims, it helps to first mentally ask what they would have to gain from it; and the answer is generally not much. 

If someone is, as these boys are/were self professing Muslims,
then that is their mentality. Its aka known as love
for Allah.

allahu akbar

Quote from: robomont on April 19, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
i would say that for catholics too.just not as much these days.

Yeah, lately its the Commies, the Ayrans, and the Facists, and the Muslims.

Quote from: burntheships on April 19, 2013, 05:23:21 PM
If someone is, as these boys are/were self professing Muslims,
then that is their mentality. Its aka known as love
for Allah.

allahu akbar

So they're just doing it out of love for Allah?  There's no other objective involved?  That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

These ex nihilo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_nihilo) explanations for terrorist acts are the sort of thing I'd expect George W. Bush to come up with, or maybe see in the script of one of Michael Bay's Transformers movies.  In other words, people do something simply because they're "insane," or "evil," or "love Allah;" no other explanation required.  It isn't really an explanation at all, in terms of one that makes any sense; it just sounds slightly better than saying that something occurs for no reason at all.

Contrary to what the American government tries to claim, people do things for a reason.  Yes, sometimes the reason is that they are extremely angry/frustrated/suicidal etc, but most of the time, simply attributing that reason to an act, is also a copout.

The claim that these things are done by "nuts," or fanatics who just randomly, "go off," is a complete lie as far as I am concerned, or at the very least, a massive oversimplification.  Religious fervour might help a person get past the aversion they feel about a suicide attack, if said attack is going to achieve some genuine objective, but it alone is not going to be the motivation of a suicidal attack that has no other goals.

crazy and hate filled does not need any religion to manifest itself
but the use of religion seems to be a ready made excuse for many..

my reference to putin and they being russian was meant as a joke to
those who see conspiracies under every bed..
a poor joke.. apologies for that

Sky,

I thought your comment was fine, actually I think
we should send Putin the bill, he did offer to help.

;)

Quote from: sky otter on April 19, 2013, 05:44:49 PM

crazy and hate filled does not need any religion to manifest itself
but the use of religion seems to be a ready made excuse for many..

Claiming that someone being "crazy," is their motivation for doing something, is a means of avoiding having to engage in further critical thinking, as far as I am concerned.  It's a non-answer.  Maybe they have some sort of ideology that the rest of us would view as insane, but that still means that they have a concrete justification for it, in their own heads at least.

Quote from: petrus4 on April 19, 2013, 06:01:23 PM
Maybe they have some sort of ideology that the rest of us would view as insane, but that still means that they have a concrete justification for it, in their own heads at least.

Yes, and that concrete justification is loyalty to an idea, and ideal,
embodied in a religious dogma.

What we see as insane, they see as a love for the supreme
ideal, or god aka allah.

Actually, insanity by way of a bad religion is nothing new,
                        insantiy = crazy

http://www.naturalnews.com/039981_Boston_marathon_suspects_media_blackout.html


Check out this stuff.  I wish I could post the pic's from this article and the embedded video here as well.  Check it out.,


Edward

(http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/The_Craft_suspects.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWUB4MCLsHg

already posted earlier in the thread.

my bet they pull a waco on the house.

smoke grenade sets house on fire.
thats my guess .and neighbors houses burn too.

From the scanner:

Two more Long Rifles dispatched with State Troopers...

ok so bite me..

i should have said crazy and/or hate filled

either way religion is used as means for them to claim legitimacy for their crimes

killing and maiming others has NO EXCUSE

oh btw..that's my opinion

From: http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2013/04/18/before-the-blast-west-fertilizers-monsanto-lawsuit/

Before the Blast, West Fertilizer's Monsanto Lawsuit

QuoteAs details emerge about the Texas fertilizer plant that was the site of Wednesday's fatal explosion and fire, a few tidbits can be gleaned from a 2007 lawsuit that the plant's owners filed against agribusiness giant Monsanto Co.

The suit, filed as a potential class action in U.S. District Court for the western district of Texas, claimed that Monsanto had artificially inflated prices for its herbicide Roundup through anti-competitive actions. The suit did not relate to storing fertilizer, believed to be at the root of Wednesday's blast.

The suit was filed by Texas Grain Storage Inc. The company now calls itself West Fertilizer Co.

More at link above.  More killing several birds w/one stone?

Quote from: sky otter on April 19, 2013, 07:16:45 PM

ok so bite me..

i should have said crazy and/or hate filled

either way religion is used as means for them to claim legitimacy for their crimes

killing and maiming others has NO EXCUSE

oh btw..that's my opinion

Yep agree... anyone who bomb's other people out of the blue with no ryhme or reason ARE crazy and Deluded. 

What make's this debacle even worse is that the media are reporting their country of origin. 

They migrated to America and grew up in the USA.  That make's them American  ::)

Quote from: Somamech on April 19, 2013, 07:53:05 PM
Yep agree... anyone who bomb's other people out of the blue with no ryhme or reason ARE crazy and Deluded. 

What make's this debacle even worse is that the media are reporting their country of origin. 

They migrated to America and grew up in the USA.  That make's them American  ::)

Wait a min. so you mean  the people of color in this country are Americans??

And I thought all along they were Africans.     :o     ;)     :P


Edward

From the scanner LIVE...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

Stop that vehicle and take that party or parties into custody...

FBI authorizes whatever it takes...

We're taking them down before that target gets rolling...

Peterson Catering bring food to the troops...:P

NYPD cooking burgers...YUM

Possible target spotted in car in Pilgrim garage...

Driver door open and nobody home...

Major assets being re-positioned...

US Marshall SWAT Team moving in...

Something from Ed Chiarini:

https://twitter.com/dallasgoldbug/status/325312640094199809/photo/1/large

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 19, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
Something from Ed Chiarini:

Who or what is "Ed Chiarini"?

Quote from: zorgon on April 19, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
Who or what is "Ed Chiarini"?

You'll love this one   :P

http://www.wellaware1.com/

Wow I am going about this all wrong... been using GoFundMe to get a car and this guy already has $1850.00 for a video :P

http://www.gofundme.com/wellaware1

I can see by the posts here that mad bombers are more important than science
Okay time to take a vacation and sort out my priorites.

::)

Quote from: Edward on April 19, 2013, 07:58:15 PM

Wait a min. so you mean  the people of color in this country are Americans??

And I thought all along they were Africans.     :o     ;)     :P


Edward

LOL you get it ;)

Quote from: zorgon on April 19, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
Wow I am going about this all wrong... been using GoFundMe to get a car and this guy already has $1850.00 for a video :P

http://www.gofundme.com/wellaware1

I can see by the posts here that mad bombers are more important than science
Okay time to take a vacation and sort out my priorites.

::)

Gofund zorgon for a holiday?

I lost my ciggy lighter today, I knew it was the CIA playing games with me, watched them before do this trick.  It's a serious issue and holidays are not needed by anyone :P :D

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 19, 2013, 07:24:28 PM
The suit did not relate to storing fertilizer, believed to be at the root of Wednesday's blast.

::)

vacation?
you must be rich or owe somebody money.
take a cruise on carnival.lol.

Possible subject in custody...

Hello People, I haven't read every pst with in these some 9-10 pages, but I receive an Email-er from Stratfor Global Intelligence group that is usually quite thorough and rigorous with in their story telling and investigative reporting, I received this one today and thought I would share it here, and keep in mind, if you like the deeper world of Global discussions, feel free too sign up for the free E mailers as I have did, they are very good at what they do, and I can imagine some of you here might even already receive this Email-er, but if not, something worthy of taking advantage of "It's FREE!!!" :P

QuoteBoston Bombing Suspects: Grassroots Militants from Chechnya

Summary


Jared Wickerham/Getty Images

Timothy Alben (C) of the Massachusetts State Police and Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis (Center R) in Watertown, Mass., on April 19
The identities of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing -- Chechen brothers Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26 -- appear tentatively to confirm several of Stratfor's suspicions. From this profile, the simple nature of the attack, their efforts to rob a convenience store and their lack of an escape plan, we can at least say at this point in time that they were what we refer to as grassroots militants. Despite being amateurs, such militants clearly still pose a significant threat.

Read more: Boston Bombing Suspects: Grassroots Militants from Chechnya | Stratfor

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/boston-bombing-suspects-grassroots-militants-chechnya?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_freereport=20130419&utm_term=BostonBombing&utm_content=readmore&elq=76c77d1299ad4cdb9835195840614104 (http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/boston-bombing-suspects-grassroots-militants-chechnya?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_freereport=20130419&utm_term=BostonBombing&utm_content=readmore&elq=76c77d1299ad4cdb9835195840614104)

As I had stated above, I haven't read all posts, so if this is or happens too be a repeat of information, hopefully it will be on a different wave length for understanding these horrendous acts.

1WW

Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 19, 2013, 11:27:09 PM

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/April%2016-30%202013/StatePoliceScanner.png)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

With 90% of the toss and turn completed in Watertown,
there is now a possible sighting of subject in the woods near Milton...

Calvary on the way... :P

Stream is off line.  :(

didnt stratfor but heads w anonymous?
but thanks for the info.

ALL scanner traffic now blocked...

Quote from: robomont on April 19, 2013, 11:46:36 PM
didnt stratfor but heads w anonymous?
but thanks for the info.

I believe so robo, but they sent out Emails notifying their readers of the situation and suspended emails and payments until they resolved the issues. Everything is under control as of now, and it is a safe site.

They are very professional group, and I do so enjoy the truths they discuss. I have a library of information for the past 5 years as things unfolded with in our governments and economies from around the world. So, when I have a question about who did what, I can rely on the library to help explain the facts.

It is a pretty spendy investigative membership, and knowing we can get lied too about 75-99.9% of the time through MSM, it is a better go to for the facts.

They did a phenomenal job with the drug cartels of Mexico, some really good news reporting not too mention behind the scenes info.

It's safe free and is a great reading for news source.

1WW

Laying prone - oops, legs moving and head to rear of boat...

Discussion on the radio as to how to destroy the boat (and contents) to prevent possible collateral damage...

Automatic weapons fire...

"Watch your mikes... watch your mikes...

We need you do whatever you can to get specialized equipment here now...

Need to get that street open to get the armor down..."

CNN is so far behind us... :P

Back on line...

"CP to all positions on perimeter..."

NO ONE IS TO FIRE THEIR WEAPONS

" We have movement in the boat...

"We need light on that boat..."

"He sat up on the rear of the boat - fence, repeat, fence side."

" Do we have a 303 available?"

"40-gallon tanks inside the stern..."

"FBI/HRT do not want to light up the boat before putting ordanance on it..."

"Fire on boat now..."

"FBI launching device...

might be a flashback...

all units do not return fire..."

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/April%2016-30%202013/StatePoliceScanner.png)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam


One might surmise that with 1.6 million people tuned in on this Police scanner channel, this one will not be covered up.

"FLASH BANG deployed and suspect is appears immobile..."

"HRT says negative on movement after 4 FLASH BANGS deployed simultaneously...""Negative on fire on boat."

"Negative op on negotiations."

"All stations, radio silence."

"Negative movement - he's on his back..."

" We have flameless (unintelligble) vapor..."

"CP, do you have com with FBI?"

Gold for the feed. TY

News just reported the boat is on fire.

They have the suspect in custody, and have
an ambulance for him....

MSM reports suspect in custody.

Sorry Not managed to read all the thread as yet nor am I very much updated on whats gone on other than some basic news that I have watched..

But seeing a City as big as Boston & seeing  military & Police on the streets in full force doing a door to door manhunt is something that I have never seen before....

Its the sort of Nightmare scenerio that Alex Jones talks about..

So no doubt , this could be another false flag and further suggestions of what to get the public & WORLD to become aware of when they come with the same force to demand door to door Gun Confiscation !

Do they really need so many of them to find one man !!!

Hardly....

But it certainly sets a most terrifying image to stick in the US publics minds , that may make many US Gun Owning Citizens not  to want to risk attempting to  holding on to their guns..

If the gun owning public do become wise to this...it may become battles in the streets...but that's only if enough oppose it under any other sought of false flags that they will create that may make people weaken in their will to hold onto their guns..

All this I wonder if it starts.. could kick off rather quickly and all around the USA without much warning, as we can see just how quickly they have reacted to this Boston incident.

I get the impression they had trained for this and were ready to step in
and will be when they start gun confiscation..

IF they do feel threatened as they start to become more exposed, it may be that they will have to take fast action to achieve their objective..and that this is a plan that they have set out...

A.J has said that when somethings start they can happen with a series of several incidents very quickly...

Terrifying times !

I think the police presence was excessive. Who was protecting the rest of these communities?

I understand the need for a lot of personnel but this was just ridiculous.

So now, the FBI admits knowing the older son?  After the mother said that the FBI followed his every move for 5 years?

Notice how DA Carmen Ortiz shares the celebration on stage with other officials at the mic.  You may remember her as the DA who persecuted Aaron Swartz to his death.

Anybody hear of Whitey Bulger? The brutal serial murderer in Massachusetts who escaped prosecution for years because the FBI protected him? It's documented. His brother was leader of the Mass. legislature for years.

Here's another thought: some smart statisticians figured out why Japanese police are so utterly successful at catching and convicting murderers - they only arrest suspects with overwhelming evidence against them and ignore the rest (Freakanomics documentary)

In other words, they manipulate the system to look invincible.  Give you any ideas?

They got the kid with flash bang grenades as he held out in the backyard of a house that had a boat parked with the kid hiding in there.

Lots a pretty pics with cops smiling and the crowd clapping exuberant will jubilation Boston can return to normal.

Why does the UK rag mailonline have all the good photos of the take down.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311443/We-got-Fugitive-bomber-captured-ALIVE-hiding-inside-BOAT-backyard-Boston-home-Cops-use-flash-bang-grenades-gas-flush-Dzhokar-Tsarnev.html

That is quite a collection of pics and vids on that website.  Their photographer was certainly right on top of things!  Actually kinda odd that he/she got that close especially in the take down. :o

BIG NEWS !   The NYTimes has admitted that the FBI sets up and 'hatches' terrorists.

CBSNews has discreetly pointed out that the FBI lied about not knowing the older son.

A nationally televised press conference by the FBI was asked who the paramilitary group is that left the scene just before the bomb when off..... it was brushed off, "Next question".

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-on-terror/2013/04/contractors-at-boston-marathon-stood-near-bomb-left-before-detonation-2443518.html

So Eighthman, who do you think these 'Craft logo' hat wearing guys are?
FBI?, Blackwater? CIA? NSA? or some black OP organisation?
Interesting that the FBI won't comment on their liason with these guys, which points to the fact that it comes under a 'National Security' (Homeland Security) clause!

Some kind of black ops.   It is my hope (however naive) that this wave of exposure builds on itself into the Disclosure attempts later this and next month.

A recent study says confidence in the Federal government is at a historic low.  Who knows?

Just my humble opinion, down the Rabbit Hole. Blackwater, The Craft if you will, are "solders of fortune" from all over the world, "hired guns", if you will. They have no allegiance, but to the pay check and the job. They would have no problem killing Americans. Where our Military might have a  "taking" such orders problem.  Hope we have a lot of "Oath Keepers" around. Hope I am just Wacky! :o  But the job of locking down a city, was perfectly executed.  ???

Looking through the photos there was definitely some sort of operation going on, they were not tending to the wounded with the other first responders. In my mind there is no way lone wolves pulled this off with such a high amount of security present as well as cameras everywhere. They would have known right from the start they would be seen and caught. They would have to be hidden or hidden in plain sight (Dressed up as security etc.). How long would a backpack be sitting on the sidewalk before someone would walk off with it?

Quote from: Phedre on April 21, 2013, 05:14:23 PM

Just my humble opinion, down the Rabbit Hole. Blackwater, The Craft if you will, are "solders of fortune" from all over the world, "hired guns", if you will. They have no allegiance, but to the pay check and the job. They would have no problem killing Americans. Where our Military might have a  "taking" such orders problem.  Hope we have a lot of "Oath Keepers" around. Hope I am just Wacky! :o  But the job of locking down a city, was perfectly executed.  ???

All the more reason to remove profit motive from the table.  Who would have allegiance without cash to bind that allegiance?


Analysis:  http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=657.0
PLAN:  http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2759.0
Governance:  http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2103.0

Again we are shown just how blatantly twisted reality will be projected into our brains by the press whores and television pimps.

This is a monstrous act perpetrated by cold calculating killers who make it happen just the way they planned it. Again we see the facts not lining up to support the action and they move with lightning speed blaming someone, anyone as they go on the hunt killing, maiming, blowing up, shooting holes into and just going, all out assault on whoever, like rabid animals on anything that moves.

It's obvious the brothers were patsies and if they were part of the game, had to be silenced by death or injury so severe, they will never talk about it. Theses brothers were to cool and not nervous about the situation which to me wreaks of complicit knowing they are part of a larger group.

Seems a lot of guys were on scene with tan boots and well developed physics just like we see in well trained military style clones training to kill people without remorse.

I see this as a made to happen by a group of criminals that have operated for a very long time on the soil of america. They are above laws and set people up for the fall as well as kill anyone who happens to get in the way.

Did you see what they did to the older brother. That was pure trophy hatred and just like in war, they ravaged the guys body in every way. Than, the kid, they shot him up, the boat and probably everything else in the area.

This whole thing is a psy-ops by well trained killers.

I forgot, so I will take this opportunity to increase my post count cause that's what kinda guy I am.

They have a video showing it was a drill and in that, they announced there will be a controlled explosion across from the library. Minute later, boom. But, you remember the fire at the jfk library. Well right across the street from the first boom was the Boston library where they showed a fire and possible boom there.

Funny when one looks at the video of the boom runners act like nothing happened as they continue to run straight ahead. Cept for that old buzzer who faked fallen down. That's how old people like to act for the crowds and cameras watching.

Quote from: Gigas on April 21, 2013, 07:11:52 PM
Again we are shown just how blatantly twisted reality will be projected into our brains by the press whores and television pimps.

This is a monstrous act perpetrated by cold calculating killers who make it happen just the way they planned it. Again we see the facts not lining up to support the action and they move with lightning speed blaming someone, anyone as they go on the hunt killing, maiming, blowing up, shooting holes into and just going, all out assault on whoever, like rabid animals on anything that moves.

It's obvious the brothers were patsies and if they were part of the game, had to be silenced by death or injury so severe, they will never talk about it. Theses brothers were to cool and not nervous about the situation which to me wreaks of complicit knowing they are part of a larger group.

Seems a lot of guys were on scene with tan boots and well developed physics just like we see in well trained military style clones training to kill people without remorse.

I see this as a made to happen by a group of criminals that have operated for a very long time on the soil of america. They are above laws and set people up for the fall as well as kill anyone who happens to get in the way.

Did you see what they did to the older brother. That was pure trophy hatred and just like in war, they ravaged the guys body in every way. Than, the kid, they shot him up, the boat and probably everything else in the area.

This whole thing is a psy-ops by well trained killers.

So what did those contractors have in their backpacks? Their lunches?  ::)

Funny how they look the same as the bag claimed to have the explosives in it.

Did anyone else here really expect the guy they captured to be able to testify?

QuoteThe lone surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing is still lying wounded in hospital and for now is unable to talk to investigators.

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick says Dzhokhar Tsarnaev appears to be incapable of answering police questions because of a gunshot wound to the back of his neck.

During an interview Sunday with ABC's This Week, Boston Mayor Tom Menino said authorities may never be able to question the suspect.

Menino said Tsarnaev, 19, is in "very serious" condition, "and we don't know if we'll ever be able to question the individual."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/21/boston-marathon-shooting-sunday.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/21/boston-marathon-shooting-sunday.html)

Maybe they can hook up one of those wireless thought reading gadgets up and get him to testify?  :P

Wait for it, watch it, wait for it, BOOM.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJngZ-izZRw

This was tweeted to Me & I screenshotted it:

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/Boston-SandyHookCops.png)

The tweet said:

QuoteIn case you missed it, the Sandy Hook cops & the Craft International men at the #Boston Marathon are one in the same.

Oh ya. amaretasu's got it goin on. Tellin photo's.

Did you know they say seal team 3 was involved by their skull patch's. And did you know that youngest kid of the accused bomber had a white hat with the number 3 on the side and his older brother supposedly also had a cap on with "maybe" the seal team skull on the front.

So, just perhaps, the caps were ID's for the group and unbeknownst to the two patsies, they were going down for something they had no idea was about to end badly; for them.

Seems the skull patches were from a company called "the Craft..."

From: http://worldtruth.tv/photo-surfaces-of-the-craft-mobile-communications-van-at-boston-marathon/

Photo surfaces of 'The Craft' Mobile Communications van at Boston Marathon

(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/The_Craft_Communications_Van-600.jpg)

http://www.therightscoop.com/russia-asked-fbi-to-investigate-boston-bomber-just-six-months-ago-after-his-trip-to-dagestan/

The Russians warned the FBI SIX MONTHS AGO  !!

The FBI acted as if they didn't know who these guys in the photos were !  Asking the public to identify them.....

Does this scream 'hoax' to you?  That the FBI pretended not to know and this was all a stage act?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/don-t-rule-out-anything_718153.html?nopager=1


Other people are beginning to wake up and see that something is wrong with this Boston Bombing.

Thats a lot of fire power for a kid hiding in a boat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nceaw0jQKvk

Wow that is a lot of fire power.

Sure getting the feeling that they wanted both these brothers dead.

Kinda like Lee Harvey Oswalt isn't it?   Dead men tell no tales.

looks like attempted murder by the fbi .
but then the cops scream .you dont know what its like in these situations.
thats when we scream back .dont put yourself in the situation of being a cop.
we citizens are expected by them to not put ourselves in bad situations.and when we are found guilty by a judge for doing so we have to pay so i say its time for them to pay too.

we cant keep going this way.equal justice under the law or no law.
cops should not get special privelage.

Quote from: micjer on April 22, 2013, 12:43:51 PM
Wow that is a lot of fire power.

Sure getting the feeling that they wanted both these brothers dead.

Kinda like Lee Harvey Oswalt isn't it?   Dead men tell no tales.

I was reading the Chicago Tribune today, and in it the kid they found in the boat the say after a stand off, he gave himself up and there was a file photo of him slowly  getting out of the boat.  He was pictured stradling the boat as one leg was inside and one was outside like he was climbing out.  From that picture.  He seemed well enough to be on his own power.     I'm like so when did he get critically injured and that he has was unable to talk and was near death.  They omitted in that report everything we have been told so far.   They were able to take him with out incident basically from the boat after the police threw  in the flash bang grenades used to disorient him. 


Edward

The make believe media and authorities have so many fake stories going on that only a total sheeple under the spell of Alpha Tango Spookz will believe.

First the kid dropped a black backpack at the bomb boom spot only we see he is carrying a gray backpack.

Than we see the kids with caps on and the younger kid has a white cap with the number 3 on the side and the older brother has a black cap with "maybe" a skull on front. Seal team 3 uses the skull and number 3. What, is this some kinda ID for the perps involved.

Later the kid is reported back at the college he was attending acting like nothing happened.

Than, at the college, a gun fight broke out with campus cops as the kids began throwing bombs at the cops.

Than the older kid is said to have charged cops and killed but cops say the younger kid ran his brother over and killed his brother in the first gun battle. Photos show the older brother all riddled with flesh wounds, slashes and rips in the naked body.

Doc's say the older kids body was not run over and not killed by any vehicle trauma.

Younger kid, wounded, makes his way to watertown and hides in a boat parked in a yard and the boat owner just happens to go look in the boat and see something. Owner calls fbi and cops make so stuff up like they found the kid by helicopter flir and surrounded the residence.

Press whores and media pimps report the kid ate his gun but other reports say he gave up and as you seen from the utube video, cops found him guilty and tried to convict him by death on the spot.

Do you see it, or are you sheeple.

Not sure if this has been posted.

It is the ABC feed after the event.

Have a look at the package that was sitting where the bo mb went off.  It is not even a back pack!!!!! 

It looks like a cloth shopping bag.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/boston-marathon-bomb-18976338

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/abc_gma_brianross_130417_wa_zpsff14e198.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/abc_gma_brianross_130417_wa_zpsff14e198.jpg.html)


(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/anigif_enhanced-buzz-12219-1366237846-5_zpse5bfeba5.gif) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/anigif_enhanced-buzz-12219-1366237846-5_zpse5bfeba5.gif.html)

If that's the bomb, your FBI are a bunch of corrupt bastards.  Sorry if that offends you.

I don't know micjer,  This was one of the first photos I looked at and if you take a look at the same sceen after the blast you will see that the bag might still be there and that fence behind it is now wrapped around the mail box and the pavement about 10 feet back has a circle of very dark soot. That dark area regestered very different than the rest of the sidewalk with a very slight energy pattern extending outwards. IMHO that is a bag of garbage.

Deuem

Not sure if you guys have seen the pics below yet but a guy got some good pics of the shootout between the brothers and the 2 Police cars from his 2nd story bedroom window!
The news painted this seen as a big shootout and the pics show only 2 Police cars!
http://www.getonhand.com/blogs/news/7743337-boston-bombing-suspect-shootout-pictures


Check this video out, you can hear the kid screaming chill out, as cops shoot at him. You can hear him saying we didn't do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtKO-hV44cU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8t5bVTZJwQ

Quote from: Ellirium113 on April 23, 2013, 11:36:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8t5bVTZJwQ

Actor is a term used in some departments like we use perp, inmate, convict etc...   I have heard the term in other departments in my career.

Older brother was run over after being shot.  It appears that the younger brother did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-YYoVThAVw&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Quote from: LSWONE on April 23, 2013, 03:52:04 PM
Not sure if you guys have seen the pics below yet but a guy got some good pics of the shootout between the brothers and the 2 Police cars from his 2nd story bedroom window!
The news painted this seen as a big shootout and the pics show only 2 Police cars!
http://www.getonhand.com/blogs/news/7743337-boston-bombing-suspect-shootout-pictures


Check this video out, you can hear the kid screaming chill out, as cops shoot at him. You can hear him saying we didn't do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtKO-hV44cU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Wow Great find.

This is information NEEDS TO GET OUT!!!!!


Edward

Found this on another forum,  interesting to say the least.  Watch this video, it ties into very much what Ellirium113 posted of the news reporter.   This guy shows some interesting evidence that is in plain sight.

Note: Youtube has marked/flagged this video you can still view it but just keep hitting continue and click do not display this in the future to move on and view this below.

The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as being potentially offensive or inappropriate. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHym0NyR05s


Edward

Anonymous comments on Boston - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUDK5mgVjI)

Published on Apr 16, 2013

In the coming days we will have our heartstrings pulled and our humanity questioned.

In the wake of the tragedy in Boston while we contemplate, information share, cry outrage and shame, and wave our tear stained fists at the sky something else is happening.

While we are in mourning, there are those plotting to seize advantage of us. While you are reading this someone, somewhere is creating a 'ribbon campaign', another person is warming up the presses to make t-shirts and stickers, and yet another is formulating a plan for a fake donation system.

While these people plot and plan there are others who are sitting at their desks crafting their words to use this tragedy to their own ends. They will question your charity, your patriotism, your beliefs and you actions or lack thereof. Until you come to their point of view they will not stop. You will see pictures of the dead and the dying, the maimed and the broken, the aftermath and the accused. ?

Turn a blind eye to this.


Demand truth and do not give over to empty symbolic gestures driven by profiteering and greed feeding off of tragedy.

When you give of yourself, give to those who need it directly.

When you write, write as if you were the family, you were the victim, as if it was you who was killed.

Do not let the mass media propaganda machine poison a single mind that you have access to.

Do not let the conspiracy theorists with their outrageous speculations and sponsors sucker you into buying duct tape and plastic while stuck to your radio.

Mourn the dead. Help the living. Educate the ignorant.

Most importantly, show that this and every other tragedy of its like will not polarize you to the 'left' or the 'right' but to the humanity.

To every person who has died in this way. To every person who is wounded this way. To every person on their knees in anguish.

The message to you is

"We hear you. We will help you".

When you speak let your voice mean something. When you speak, speak with knowledge, wisdom, facts, and as much serenity as you can muster.

Do not speak in anger, fear, hatred, or any other emotion that will only feed the monster that created this tragedy.

You are better than this. Together we are better than this. We are the ones who run towards, not away.

We are the gateway to a future where this does not happen, by sacrificing of ourselves in the now when it does happen.

Do not let your act, your words, your sacrifices be in vain. Do not let the profiteers feed on this tragedy. Do not let the truth go unheard.

Do not let this go unanswered, but do not let the answer be yet another act of needless violence against innocents.

To paraphrase the words of William Shakespeare;

"We are like stars, and while some of us may fall, our sky will not want."

We are Anonymous
We are Legion
United as One
Divided by Zero
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
We are Uniting Humanity
Expect Us



Music credit to: Anna Winblad - Humanity

Well I got banned again over at GLP. I was trying to post this link to John .


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ties-that-bind-washington-to-chechen-terrorists/5333080?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rs


Soon as I posted it I was banned , I guess you can't talk bad about  the Boston event  over there .

great article.worth the read.

Anyone see the video with the dude and his blown off legs in the wheel chair. I called that BS long ago and was attacked by suicide forum hit men keeping the story real for the sheeple.

Seems a video has popped up with the legs blown off guy in his wheel chair being wheeled away by three people around him and his fake leg as it falls off in the street and the cop helping the action scene stops to pick it up and put it back on the legs blown off guy but the guy pushing the wheel chair hurries up and begins to wheel no legs away as the leg part falls on the street while no legs guy is being wheeled down the street.

Another video shows several people at the blast site staging themselves for camera action and one a the guys with his pants legs shredded get ups like nothing happened and re-positions himself like he's really hurt.

The whole thing now is laughable.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkGonruJyl4

i havent seen the vid but this stuff is getting nuts.
saw the article the other day about cia heads daughter being married the uncle.
there should be a hospital list with stubbies name on it.
ive seen the comparison photos.somebody in boston should check it out.
maybe theres an injured list?

Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 30, 2013, 02:53:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUDK5mgVjI

Anonymous comments on Boston - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUDK5mgVjI)

Be very wary of anything you see right now which claims to speak for Anon, thor.  The sociopathic/hard Right old school are returning; and they are not happy.

From here (http://www.314chan.org/i/res/350.html):-

>Anonymous, The Internet Super Heroes
>The Hacker Group Anonymous
>We are Anonymous, we fight for social justice and anti censorship.

>look at the end for tl;dr version

I'm sick of hearing how "Anonymous" is the internet superhero or the greatest thing in the world. I'm sick of hearing my family tell me what Anonymous is and when I tell them their explanation is wrong, they throw a fit because the news told them otherwise. I'm sick of walking down the street and hearing little kids call themselves Anonymous. I'm sick of AnonOps saying what is Anonymous and what isn't. I'm sick on how AnonOps thinks of themselves as the "Official Anonymous". I'm sick of how there are spokes people for Anonymous. Most of all I'm sick of all the moral fags who changed the true title of Anonymous and misusing the power for "good".

Greetings /i/, over these few years, things have changed within Anonymous quite a lot... In early 2008 our very first in real life raid against Scientology was one of the most biggest raids we have ever done. At first this raid was for one and ONLY one thing, the lulz. We "trolled" Scientology by exploiting their secrets and information. Bystanders thought we were protesting to spread awareness the evil that Scientology has done and sadly attracted them towards us. The news has even given Anonymous, attention towards this raid, causing even more people "wanting to join Anonymous". Due to the amount of moral attention we were given, new fags and moral fags decided to team up and try to form Anonymous from an unstoppable hate machine, to an internet super hero. Even before the raid began, the moral fags tried to fuel the idea that Anonymous should be the superhero of the internet and the face of the people. Ever since then /i/, the game has changed. Apparently now Anonymous is "srs bsns XDDDD" and the cancer is spreading more and more each day. It gotten so bad, that Anonymous raids are called 4chan raids. Everything good and moral 4chan has done was given to Anonymous or in this case "AnonOps" and 4chan has told themselves they aren't Anonymous anymore.

A spark has happened on 4chan's /pol/ board two days ago (pic related). What if we start operating under the title of Anonymous again? What if we got other boards and imageboards to do the same? What if we bring back the true Operating feel by getting other imageboards to team up to make operations successful again? Most of all, what if we reawaken the true internet hate machine? 314chan is one of the only few sane imageboards I know and I think something as big of an issue as this deserves attention.

You're probably thinking
>OP cut the cheesy crap and get on with it!

Well let's get started then. In this Operation, we will be going under the title of Anonymous. Who is our target? That's the best part, our target is Anonymous. By "Anonymous" we mean the "official Anonymous", the moral fags and newfags who ruined it for all of us. These cancerous script kiddies need to learn their lesson and show them not to mess with the Internet Hate Machine.

>tl;dr version:
>We're taking back the title of Anonymous and we'll show them the power of the Internet Hate Machine.
>Look at OP's pic

For those of you who don't know, Anonymous has traditionally suffered from an internal schism or conflict.  The group originated among radical Right wing sociopaths, who primarily used the Anonymous name and iconography to attack people in various ways and perform practical jokes.  They only became an offline social justice movement with Project Chanology, an ultimately unsuccessful campaign that started in 2008, with the goal of destroying the Church of Scientology; although in fairness, they probably did succeed in mortally wounding the CoS, even if they didn't shut it down completely.

Anonymous then went on from Chanology to involve itself in the Arab Spring; they engaged in DDoS attacks against Arab governments at the time, but more constructively, also provided backup telecommunications when Mubarak took the mobile phone network offline in Egypt, and he tried to remove the country's Internet access as well. 

I was very briefly involved in Project Chanology in my own country in 2010, and was listening on AnonOps IRC during Operation Egypt.  I still actually have my mask hanging up in my bedroom; but I'm one of those who the people quoted above view as a, "moralfag," or one of the people who hijacked the group, as I believed that Anon could be used for good, and should be.  Wearing the mask is an intensely liberating, and even intoxicating experience; and it provided an outlet for the partial Batman complex that I ended up developing after World of Warcraft.  As I've said before, Zorgon and I have a lot in common, in some respects.

I consider my relationship with Anonymous to be analogous to that had by the character Wheelie with the rest of the Autobots in the Transformers animated film, in the sense that Wheelie spent most of his time alone on another planet and didn't involve himself with the rest of the Autobots at all, most of the time; but he wore the brand.

The old school, however, do not like the activists at all, as you can probably tell from the above.  Apart from anything else, they primarily view activism as being dangerous to them, because it makes it easier for them to potentially be identified and arrested by the authorities if they are more high profile.  Occupy and the political/economic Left in general are also detested on 4chan; old school Anonymous are hard Right to the point of neo-Nazism in some cases, and Left anarchism only really became associated with Anon after the Arab Spring.

The only form of political activism that the old school care about, is preventing censorship of the Internet, or preventing things like SOPA/PIPA/CISPA from coming into existence, which could basically diminish their mobility, or the things they are able to do with the Internet.  We're talking about people who are literally products of the Internet in the same manner that Bane described being a product of darkness during The Dark Knight Rises.  It is their native environment; and although I myself have been here for nearly 20 years now, they can run rings around me in most cases.

Other than that, however, the old school are not political activists.  They are vigilantes, yes, but only for causes which appeal to them.  They will attack people who abuse cats in particular, but they also despise teenage girls who promote themselves on YouTube, and have engaged in harassment campaigns against such girls in the past to stop them doing that.  All of the stuff about opposing governments, being freedom fighters, and offline activism etc, began after Chanology, and was engaged in by a fundamentally different group of people, to a large extent.

I agree with the old school in the sense that I do believe that AnonOps have been heavily compromised; and I particularly do not like the olive leaf insignia which is used by them, which to me bears far more resemblance to the logo of the United Nations than I am comfortable with.

Quote from: hoss58 on April 30, 2013, 04:26:55 AM
Well I got banned again over at GLP. I was trying to post this link to John .


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ties-that-bind-washington-to-chechen-terrorists/5333080?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rs


Soon as I posted it I was banned , I guess you can't talk bad about  the Boston event  over there .

Hey Gigas, do you think I got banned for posting this link . I noticed no is talking about the Boston event on John's thread  so I thought I would post a couple links. I posted one and was in the process of adding another link to my post and as soon as I hit post I was banned right away . hmmm.

Godlikeproductions Bans <bans@godlikeproductions.com>
7:13 AM (12 minutes ago)

to me
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I would speculate the spookz that run Alpha Tango run the back yard shenanigans over on godlickspoontango.

As a matter of fact, I also posted some facts on the obvious boston BS on Godlicksterpoof and was banned as I hit the send button.

The DHS no doubt told Ghetto Monk to STFU all that revealing little credible findings to the game. The Ghetto Monk bans TOR as well as most proxy entrance. He uses spamhouse to match the proxy IP up and bans the IP.

That place and Alpha Tango are crawlin with spookz.

Quote from: petrus4 on April 30, 2013, 08:47:43 AM
Be very wary of anything you see right now which claims to speak for Anon, thor.  The sociopathic/hard Right old school are returning; and they are not happy.

Greetings, esteemed member petrus4:

Thank you for the heads up and really great participation.   

As we approach our 66th birthday - auspiciously 18 May 2013 - we are very familiar with who is what with Anon, and play our cards accordingly.   :P

One might notice our pick and subsequent 'promotion' of various 'Anon' presentations.

TAM will be missed - but the torch was passed with dignity and we will honor that simple plea: Peace    :-*

thorfourwinds

Expect Us

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Looks like they are after 3 more guys.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/01/3-more-suspects-taken-into-custody-in-boston-bombing-police-say/?intcmp=trending

Quote from: Gigas on April 30, 2013, 11:11:55 PM
That place and Alpha Tango are crawlin with spookz.

I've always believed that the idea of the American government or intelligence community having any presence on ATS at all, was purely a case of the site's users needing to exaggerate the site's significance and importance in their own minds.  ATS to me was ultimately never more than an online equivalent of methadone, for those of us who still needed a fix after the cancellation of The X Files. 

I did make the mistake of becoming emotionally involved, and I should not have.  ATS is and always has been a circus; pure entertainment, although even in that regard, its' value became almost entirely non-existent in the end.

The idea of GLP having official presence is even more absurd.  ATS at one time was at least coherent; in my observation at least, GLP has never been anything other than a podium for the chronically mentally ill.  It is very similar to BeforeItsNews, in that respect.

With all the fake shenanigans and photo ops, this was going to happen as sure as the game is afoot.

QuoteBOSTON (AP) -- A New York woman used fake hospital records to pose as a Boston Marathon bombing victim with a brain injury and fraudulently collected nearly half a million dollars from the fund for victims, Massachusetts authorities said Friday.

Audrea Gause, 26, of Troy, N.Y., was arrested there Friday on a Massachusetts fugitive warrant charging her with larceny, Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley said.

Gause submitted a claim to the fund last month, including several pages of false medical records indicating she was treated at hospitals in Boston and in New York for a traumatic brain injury suffered in the bombings, Coakley said. She received a $480,000 check from the fund, created to help victims of the April 15 attacks

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-woman-accused-posing-marathon-202353374.html

Quote from: Gigas on July 20, 2013, 05:41:21 AM
With all the fake shenanigans and photo ops, this was going to happen as sure as the game is afoot.


http://news.yahoo.com/ny-woman-accused-posing-marathon-202353374.html

Sounds like she 'WAS' part of the op but they rolled over on her.
Might be worth investigating who were the recipients of the rest of the money from that fund!  8)

I thought the same thing, starwarp!  And, yeah...  Who got the rest of the $?  I bet it was all used in "administration."

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 21, 2013, 02:28:23 AM
I thought the same thing, starwarp!  And, yeah...  Who got the rest of the $?  I bet it was all used in "administration."

Would love to know the name of the Fund, who administers it, and for someone to apply under FOIA Act to acquire the 'complete' payment schedule for the fund.
Then we do a person/payment match against the documents to see if any persons payed were 'actors' and the whereabouts of such persons today.

Not sure where to begin finding these things out.  [sigh]