Yesterday evening, I was fortunate enough tto catch a rare and very anticipated interview with two of the most renowned researchers of today with in the Ancient Alien/Biblical relationship and how they are so inner connected, one has too understand the simplicity of the complexity too get a full grasp of everything this Ideology en-tales. Not as a sheer fancy to fit the masses, but as a finely constructed investigation that openly allows one to explorer deep with in personal perceptions of and how all we know has come too be.
This show was so intense, it ran almost a complete half hour longer, not from questions of the listeners, but from the interviewee's discussing in such great detail what they had discovered while they were doing their works and what they found with in the ashes of time through Biblical text.
Mauro Biglino and Jim Marrs have hit this out of the Park, please enjoy this profound exploration of the best explained example of how the Ancient Alien's and man had coexisted and how out of understanding of the Bible has forever changed with in the fine construct of personal perception.
Mauro Biglino & Jim Marrs!!! April 24th, 2013
QuoteThat's right, Paradigm Unhinged is honored to welcome back our friend Mauro Biglino! We also extend a warm hello to Jim Marrs! That's right, both "Rock Stars" are here on Paradigm Unhinged!!
We will be talking about Jim Marr's latest book "Our Occulted History-Are The Global Elite Concealing Ancient Aliens" and its connection to Mauro Biglino's work which it references!
Mauro Biglino
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QuoteMauro Biglino is an Italian scholar of history of religions, he published in Italy six books, three of which are focused on the research and re-translation work of the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament of the Bible in a literal way, word by word, from the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia.
The Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia is the first printed edition of the Masoretic text, derived from the Leningrad Codex of 1008 AD, which is the original text of reference of the Bible for the Roman Catholic Church, for the Bible of the Christian Protestant Churches - the King James Version - and for the Torah of the Jewish religion.
http://www.maurobiglino.com/ (http://www.maurobiglino.com/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4MXLB6SwPg
Jim Marrs
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QuoteA native of Fort Worth, Texas, Mr. Marrs earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from the University of North Texas in 1966 and attended Graduate School at Texas Tech in Lubbock for two years more. He has worked for several Texas newspapers, including the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, where beginning in 1968 he served as police reporter and general assignments reporter covering stories locally, in Europe and the Middle East. After a leave of absence to serve with a Fourth Army intelligence unit during the Vietnam War, he became military and aerospace writer for the newspaper and an investigative reporter. Since 1980, Mr. Marrs has been a free-lance writer, author and public relations consultant. He also published a rural weekly newspaper along with a monthly tourism tabloid, a cable television show and several videos.
Jim Marrs Biography and Book Website (http://jimmarrs.com/biography/)
Holy Bible and Aliens (http://www.holy-bible-aliens.com/)
Too listen to the complete interview, click on the link, and in the 'Download Box' scroll Down and select "Mauro Biglino & Jim Marrs" and listen to your hearts content.
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Was a fascinating episode folks, hope you enjoy it as much as we listeners did when it was being broadcasting live... ;)
With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher
Hey 1Worldwatcher, I guess I am wondering just whose "ideas about the Bible" are going to be changed with this?? Christians? Unbeliever's" Atheists? Yours?
As a Christian, absolutely NOTHING will change "my ideas", nor faith, relative to the Bible. For sure, I pay no attention to stuff like this, because such is pretty much the same theme satan has been using for a long time. And that is to reject, deny, distort, and impugn the Word of God, as presented in The Bible.
If your presentation is doing otherwise, then that's good. I am sure others will probably enjoy getting into whatever is the theme of your presentation. But, as I said, I just "don't go there", as I am still working to understand all that God has said to us in His Word!
But then of course, that is just me.............and a few other Christians over the world1. ;)
Quote from: rdunk on April 25, 2013, 05:37:46 PM
Hey 1Worldwatcher, I guess I am wondering just whose "ideas about the Bible" are going to be changed with this?? Christians? Unbeliever's" Atheists? Yours?
As a Christian, absolutely NOTHING will change "my ideas", nor faith, relative to the Bible. For sure, I pay no attention to stuff like this, because such is pretty much the same theme satan has been using for a long time. And that is to reject, deny, distort, and impugn the Word of God, as presented in The Bible.
If your presentation is doing otherwise, then that's good. I am sure others will probably enjoy getting into whatever is the theme of your presentation. But, as I said, I just "don't go there", as I am still working to understand all that God has said to us in His Word!
But then of course, that is just me.............and a few other Christians over the world1. ;)
It has more to do with the interpretation there of of the written word rdunk, if you took the time to read and watch/listen to the interview, you would have never posted what you did, all the answers are all available with in the discussion that took place yesterday and was archived today for sharing.
I could care less if Christians get offended, rather close minded if you ask me, if the truth be told and bit on the butt, you would still be in denial that anything can be but that of an Omnipotent creator, which is a farce and has been bastardized by these mainstream religions and thought perceptions of what really is.
If I were you, as I have done many a time for the believers of such trivial; thing's, take a real hard look, then lay your judgement as a whole hearted analogy of what is what. I can't believe the first response I get is a Christian a bitchin..... LOL
Too each their own, for when we all do die, we will know the truths to the matters at hand, regardless of senseless belief systems and mans inability too be cordial and considerate with in all that is brought forth as possible answers too these type's of questions.
If you think "ANY" religion has the one answer, you are already set up for your own intellectual fall. IMHO.
But, for you sensitives here, I will alter the name, doesn't change the research that was done or the truth that this information holds. ;)
1WW
I can't believe the first response I get is a Christian a bitchin..... LOL
You can think what you want, but that absolutely was not the case. No where in that was I "bitchin", as I would have been way more direct if I was! :P
1WW, you are just way off base in your thinking, if you think "true Christians" are going to change what we believe, every time some person writes another "money-rag book" on the this's and that's and the why's and why not's about the Bible. Just won't happen.
Now, that said, true Christians do read FICTION too, for entertainment but aren't taken in by whatever the bells and whistles of the fiction are, as fiction is fiction, whatever the subject.
If you think "ANY" religion has the one answer, you are already set up for your own intellectual fall. IMHO.
There is no "religion" that has the "answer"!! For religion is a lot of things, but religions are just religions, and are not a final answer. Of course true Christians do believe that Jesus (Yahushua) is the "only answer", as the way of salvation, for anyone and everyone.
But, for you sensitives here, I will alter the name, doesn't change the research that was done or the truth that this information holds.
I certainly don't think anything is wrong with the subject title, however I did wonder why this wasn't posted on the Religion board instead, if this OP is considered a religion changing thesis?
QuoteAs a Christian, absolutely NOTHING will change "my ideas", nor faith, relative to the Bible.
For sure, I pay no attention to stuff like this.
No offence, <rdunk> but your actions are a "
Confession", the opposite
is actually the case.
If you pay
NO attention?
Why respond ?
It may appear to us, you are troubled by your own faith,
trusting your religious "Teachers"
rather than what a Certain Carpenter was
reported to have said, by humans...
A Christian does
NOT respond in the way you have...
It is Historically recorded in these writings
by humans.. to seek the Truth
and the Truth shall set you free !
A certain Carpenter was
reported to have said this.....
Historically Recorded in "
The Gospel ACCCORDING to John" Ch. 8 verse
31 to
56.. Quote;
Quote31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him,
If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage
to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me,
because my word hath no place in you.
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father:
and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.
Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children,
ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth,
which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him,
We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me:
for I proceeded forth and came from God;
neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech?
even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not .
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin?
And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not,
because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him,
Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan,
and hast a devil?
49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil;
but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying,
he shall never see death.
52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil.
Abraham is dead, and the prophets;
and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying,
he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead?
and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing:
it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him;
but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not,
I shall be a liar like unto you:
but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day:
and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old,
and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you
Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him:
but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple,
going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
But a person addicted to "
Roman Doctrine" (Propagated by all human churches) takes on
the Characteristics of a "
Pharisee".
(A teacher of "
STRICT Doctrine",
lacking "
Forgiveness".)
Why respond?
I politely responded to what 1WW said, i did not respond to his Jim Marrs stuff/did not even look at it- that is the kind of stuff I pay no attention to - and I have learned to pay no attention to your odd religion drivel either.
Your reply should be moved to the Religion forum (or to your forum, which I have blocked anyway), but not likely I guess. And on your reply, I only read the first 4 thoughts, and quickly saw it for what it is......again and again........lol. I do feel sorry/pity for you Matrix!!
But, God does love you, and I love you too!!!
Quote from: rdunk on April 25, 2013, 08:41:13 PM
I can't believe the first response I get is a Christian a bitchin..... LOL
You can think what you want, but that absolutely was not the case. No where in that was I "bitchin", as I would have been way more direct if I was! :P
In my experience rdunk, being's this was the first response to the OP thread, I wanted too avoid all distasteful or argumentative dispositions this topic seems to drag out of the religious minded. And, with my Experience's, I find it is the religious one's that turn this Ancient Alien Theory a point to use that they are the sane and anybody else is the insane if they confide in such topical discussions.
Quote1WW, you are just way off base in your thinking, if you think "true Christians" are going to change what we believe, every time some person writes another "money-rag book" on the this's and that's and the why's and why not's about the Bible. Just won't happen.
Says you. I sense some hostility with in these words, whether it be out right anger or distasteful conjecture, I can wager you have not, in one way researched any of that which I had brought to the table for discussion as a possibility for the advancement for the betterment of Human kind. And this sentence is the clincher that allows me to assume I am correct with in your intention and closed mindedness of such possibilities of the Ancient Alien Theory being possible and you being dihard Skeptic
QuoteJust won't happen.
Nuff said. ::)
QuoteNow, that said, true Christians do read FICTION too, for entertainment but aren't taken in by whatever the bells and whistles of the fiction are, as fiction is fiction, whatever the subject.
I am hoping you are including the Bible with this statement, for that is what it is, well, after being bastardized by man's hands.
QuoteIf you think "ANY" religion has the one answer, you are already set up for your own intellectual fall. IMHO.
There is no "religion" that has the "answer"!! For religion is a lot of things, but religions are just religions, and are not a final answer. Of course true Christians do believe that Jesus (Yahushua) is the "only answer", as the way of salvation, for anyone and everyone.
So, you admit that the Ancient Alien Theory may be more than theory, or are you trying to approach this as a "True/False" for safety of the argument and there by avoiding with in such continuing research the Religious references or Religion in a nut shell is nothing more than a self accepted 'Good feeling' or safety net for moral prowess that the AA theory may very well getting to the "Truth of the matter" for anything religiously affiliated for truth with in explanation.
If it allows you too feel better, more content, whatever it may be, Good for you, but, as for the Bible being a "Nonfiction" book, there is no other book, or writing that can compare the adventurous nature of drama and saga with in lineage better than the Bible. It is the best and most read fictionally incorporated book out there. It isn't a book of or for miracles literally, and there aren't too many difference when reading such authors as J.K. Rowling R.R. Tolkien.
Though I can confess comfortably that the Bible may be a form of directive or a morals book, it is not a fact based writing. Even though they can allocate places and other things 'Referred' to in the Bible, it does not cooberate it as a fact based written writing, Over and over, and over and over etc. etc. The true meaning has been lost with in the numerable times it has been restranslated over time. And too me, for the matters of belief systems, makes the most pertinant point of there being more 'Realistic' for the understanding.
QuoteBut, for you sensitives here, I will alter the name, doesn't change the research that was done or the truth that this information holds.
I certainly don't think anything is wrong with the subject title, however I did wonder why this wasn't posted on the Religion board instead, if this OP is considered a religion changing thesis?
Because I didn't think 'Religion's' was a place to put such crucial and interpretative discussion. This has only to do with the 'Primate' with in the creation of the current state of the Bible, for, if you were too take the time, listen/read or open-minded-ly 'Hear' what was being brought forth for understanding of such unlimited and interpretive writing's , that there are parts that Christian or any other religion for that matter, are closing their eyes tightly to anything but what they 'THINK' the Bible truly says or really is with in understanding.
The people involved with the information I have provided here are people that the Vatican and other religious sects had do ghost writing for them, these aren't shills that fell off a turnip truck rdunk, they are years scholar-ed with in this topic, and if they are finding these Biblical connections, it holds water that the Bastardizing has been successful with in such religious sects and communities and their current belief systems.
1WW
The Word of God will be, when all else is gone! The end! :o :P
Quote from: rdunk on April 26, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
The Word of God will be, when all else is gone! The end! :o :P
What ever feeds your mighty horse you ride.
1WW
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on April 25, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
If you think "ANY" religion has the one answer, you are already set up for your own intellectual fall. IMHO.
EVERY religion has the answers to everything. Everyone is interested in religion, even and especially atheist (they must be because you always see them posting in all relgious threads :P
The only problem is no one is interested in the other man's religion because his is OBVIOUSLY wrong :P
So I propose we create our own cult errr relgion...
All Hail to the Great White Winged Horse(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/544350_476538719068267_450098502_n.jpg)
Your words <rdunk>.....
Quoteand I have learned to pay no attention to your odd religion drivel either.
I see your heart still lies in you propagating "
Deception" and trying to mislead others.
Now that's
NOT very Christian like of you rdunk.... :)
Sorry I am
NOT a religious person.
I merely Quote what can be found in these Ancient writings, including your Roman collection of writings.
So I wish you were able to be "Truthful" for once.
But as the Carpenter said, the "
Truth" is
NOT in the human Species (Primate) !
But I shall forgive you, for your "
False witness"... :)
Quote from: rdunk on April 26, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
The Word of God will be, when all else is gone! The end! :o :P
YES... and I think you should take
Notice of your
Own Comments rdunk, don't you ? :)
QuoteBut, God does love you, and I love you too!!!
Can't you stop telling Lies rdunk ?
Now back to the Ancient Writings...
A good thread 1WW... YES indeed, such writings are full of references to aliens.
The original so called sin, was the "Adultery" between and the "Wicked One" and EVE,
according to some of the "Ancient Writings".
This could NOT take place between an Angel and a Human.
The Father of "CAIN" was NOT A'DAM no matter what some may believe.
There are ancient writings giving more detail regarding this.
Don't be put off by religious bigotry 1WW... as they have become "blind" in their own "beliefs",
and are unable to understand anything or discern the "Truth".
I myself see such writings as "Historical Writings" and NOT religion.
It is the "human species" who made Religion.
If some wish to make a Religion out of such "writings" let them.
The TRUTH of the Matter is, No matter what anyone "believes", (includes myself)
our "Beliefs" can NOT Change the "TRUTH" ! :)
Hey 1WW, off to a good start I see...
I love this AA stuff. I opens the mind to do a lot of thinking. Were there is smoke there is fire.
The idea that we went from apes to building Pyramids in a couple of years never made sence. Now we are seeing all sorts of modern cuting tool being used on these statues and blocks. I have done my share of working with stone here and I tell you, we could not do it. Not in that time frame.
I do like Jim Marrs. He really sounds like an authority and someone who has done a lot of homework. Something happened a long time ago and we have not figured it out yet. If they have they are keeping it a secrete. We are missing a long period of time in our past. Maybe over 50,000 years.
I wonder what happens when we find out for sure......Deuem
ps, was only able to hear the first minute and it cut out for me. It must be like internet heaven to click on something and have it work.......
Quote from: rdunk on April 25, 2013, 09:56:33 PM
I politely responded to what 1WW said, i did not respond to his Jim Marrs stuff/did not even look at it- that is the kind of stuff I pay no attention to
Why?
I'm not gunning for a fight here. I really do wonder why.
Quote from: rdunk on April 25, 2013, 08:41:13 PM
I can't believe the first response I get is a Christian a bitchin..... LOL
You can think what you want, but that absolutely was not the case. No where in that was I "bitchin", as I would have been way more direct if I was! :P
1WW, you are just way off base in your thinking, if you think "true Christians" are going to change what we believe, every time some person writes another "money-rag book" on the this's and that's and the why's and why not's about the Bible. Just won't happen.
Now, that said, true Christians do read FICTION too, for entertainment but aren't taken in by whatever the bells and whistles of the fiction are, as fiction is fiction, whatever the subject.
If you think "ANY" religion has the one answer, you are already set up for your own intellectual fall. IMHO.
There is no "religion" that has the "answer"!! For religion is a lot of things, but religions are just religions, and are not a final answer. Of course true Christians do believe that Jesus (Yahushua) is the "only answer", as the way of salvation, for anyone and everyone.
But, for you sensitives here, I will alter the name, doesn't change the research that was done or the truth that this information holds.
I certainly don't think anything is wrong with the subject title, however I did wonder why this wasn't posted on the Religion board instead, if this OP is considered a religion changing thesis?
So "true" Christians have a set interpretation from which They will view no contradictory evidence? Much like the church approached Galileo? They will close Their eyes to anything new and game-changing, using "satan" as Their excuse?
Seems like a poor way to use a mind capable of rational thought. My humble opinion.
1WW: Thank You for bringing this up. Though I had awareness of this man's work, it was nice to see some detail.
Z said, "EVERY religion has the answers to everything. Everyone is interested in religion, even and especially atheist (they must be because you always see them posting in all relgious threads :P
The only problem is no one is interested in the other man's religion because his is OBVIOUSLY wrong :P
So I propose we create our own cult errr relgion..."
All Hail to the Great White Winged Horse
******************************************************************
Actually, as you very likely know, the "white horse" has great significance, as mentioned in Revelation. Whether it has wings or not, I don.t know, but white horses do play a major role in end time.
Just for reference from the Bible (Book of Revelation):
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
So, white horse cult or not, it sounds like probably everyone still here at the end time is going to get to see a BIG HERD of white horses!! ;D ;D
Quote from: zorgon on April 26, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
EVERY religion has the answers to everything. Everyone is interested in religion, even and especially atheist (they must be because you always see them posting in all relgious threads :P
The only problem is no one is interested in the other man's religion because his is OBVIOUSLY wrong :P
So I propose we create our own cult errr relgion...
All Hail to the Great White Winged Horse
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/544350_476538719068267_450098502_n.jpg)
Here Here Leader 'Z' !!;)
At least I would know what I was stepping in before you could try and brainwash me!! :P
As for you reference to the Atheism connection, it was a given title by Christian's it is how they nicely segregate the blasphemers from the believer's, other wise I, them, they wouldn't have no other way to categorize and label as they see fit.
This interview is highly intellectual, it is a fascinating 'REAL' research by some of the most recognized in this field, I brought it up to discuss this topic in a fuller realization that "ANY" religion is the fixation of man's interpretation derived from the Bible, I am not saying these believer's are lunatics or crazy, I was only trying to point out that what the teacher's were taught and what they have been teaching through the millennia is more than likely the wrong translation.
I respect rdunk, hell, I respect anybody that is into the whole religion thing, but I cannot allow myself, even though I am a self proclaimed Atheist, that there is much more to the whole "God" connection than what is being reiterated as the "Word Of God" in fact is a book lost with in the fundamentals of what it was intended to be. The waters have been muddied, and most religious folk's can admit this, but put the translation to the screws, find out there are coinciding words and there by altering personally accepted translations to the point that it actually point's in the direction of an Ancient Alien Contact scenario, it then becomes argumentative for to back their efforts of years of a belief system, with no regards of looking into the fine details of the research that is being revealed as time goes on.
1WW
If I ask the local people they say their creation was from monkies and some from Aliens. No other answers.
Please no heathen Athiest remarks on that one. Right or wrong, This country did not have the same influcences that the rest of the world did. If you don't know me then you don't know what country I am in.
1WW, do you have that audio saved out to your HD. If so can you email it to me. Please!
Deuem
once i got away from religion and the bible.i have never been more comfident and happy in all my 45 years of life.
ive actually researched the bible .the apocrapha.the koran.and buddism.
compare each one to real life and then you will know a billion chinese and a billion indians may be onto something.
god is the god of life not death and there is only one religion that has been for life through the thousands of years.the others have been bastardized into promoting death.
the weaker the base of a religion.the easier it can be manipulated.
buddism has the strongest base because it is closest to an actuall religion.thats why its least corrupted of the world religions.
for those who want to know and not waste a lifetime searching.
Quote from: zorgon on April 26, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
EVERY religion has the answers to everything. Everyone is interested in religion, even and especially atheist (they must be because you always see them posting in all relgious threads :P
The only problem is no one is interested in the other man's religion because his is OBVIOUSLY wrong :P
So I propose we create our own cult errr relgion...
All Hail to the Great White Winged Horse
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/544350_476538719068267_450098502_n.jpg)
Goated for white white winged beast :P
All of us have been taught many things over the years but none of us will know the truth until we die. Until then I'm open to all input. Makes life far more interesting.
Talking about the word "Horse" there is more than one meaning to the word "HORSE" !
Like as used in the case of the word (HORSE), used in a "HORSE Chestnut"...
Which looks nothing like the Horse Animal .... LOL.
In this case the word Horse may mean "Large & Round" ?
In some ancient writings, the word "Horse" (in English) was sometimes translated from referring to
a Large Round "Disc" like apparition :) re. similar descriptions found in "The Book of the Prophet Ezekiel"
(but Not calling the same, as a "Horses"...
So in basic Translations we often find huge discrepancies... based on the understanding, political
and religious beliefs of "the translator".
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/Early%20Mosaics%2009.jpg)
See the Disc ? or Horse ?
He is Riding upon a Horse or DISC... LOL.
Just as the writings portray in "The Revelation of JC".
And while we are seeing this... what is that in His Left Hand ? LOL. Does anyone know ?
And WHY the "Z" on His Gown ?
And the "Disc" behind His Head with the Logos in it ?
Both the perimeter of the "Disc" and the Logos are formed from Little "Discs".
No the Disc/s are NOT ufo LOL... but instead "Components", of the Processing System,
used in Alien "Interfaces" often used in both their Transport and "Communication" Systems. !
And seen in the upper section of this Mosaic... Another "Disc" ("Horse")
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/Early%20Mosaics%2004.jpg)
In the English translation re. biblical writings there is No "definition" to the meaning of the word "Horse"
used in the text, leaving the interpretation subjective.
Food for Thought ? ? ? ? ? ?
Quote from: rdunk on April 25, 2013, 05:37:46 PM
Hey 1Worldwatcher, I guess I am wondering just whose "ideas about the Bible" are going to be changed with this?? Christians?
Well Christians are funny people :P And THEY DO change their views based on real science..
Example... Christians once believed that the Earth was flat and that the Earth was in the center of the Universe and that the Moon planets and Sun orbited around the Earth. In fact Galileo was almost burned at the stake for daring to show the TRUTH with real observation and science.
Took the Church over 600 years to apologize but they did finally get it.
So what happened? Did God change the game plan? Or was creation not written clearly enough to understand that the Earth is not the center of anything but rather way off the beaten track in the middle of nowhere.
So yeah you guys can be changed to accept the real truth of the way things are...
...and what will you know tomorrow?
Now we just need to work on that Dinosaur thingy 8)
Quote from: rdunk on April 26, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
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Funny thing....bottom of second page of this thread and there has been no discussion in regards to the OP.
I can't seem to get the radio show to download so I have been hoping someone could fill me in as to what was said.
I did watch some of the youtube dude (with english subtitles) so I got a glimpse of what his research is about, but I have no idea what Jim Marrs has to say about it.
Anybody listen to it that can give a critique???
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/anigif_enhanced-buzz-32206-1366238293-20_zps535ec0af.gif) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/anigif_enhanced-buzz-32206-1366238293-20_zps535ec0af.gif.html)
Quote from: micjer on April 27, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
Funny thing....bottom of second page of this thread and there has been no discussion in regards to the OP.
I can't seem to get the radio show to download so I have been hoping someone could fill me in as to what was said.
I did watch some of the youtube dude (with english subtitles) so I got a glimpse of what his research is about, but I have no idea what Jim Marrs has to say about it.
Anybody listen to it that can give a critique??
QuoteMauro Biglino & Jim Marrs
ReleasedApr 24, 2013
Paradigm Unhinged Summons an Authority on Bible Translations, Mauro Biglino, and Journalist Jim Marrs, to a Roundtable Discussion on Alien References in the Bible. This Wednesday, April 24th, 2013 at 9pmEDT, the sleuth duo of Paradigm Unhinged, Todd and Ken showcase the revelations of "Aliens" in the bible and looks for Mauro Biglino and Jim Marrs to reveal its significance in modern day UFO research . MAURO BIGLINO is an Italian scholar of history of religions. Mauro has published five books, two of Hebrew text of the Old Testament of the Bible in a literal way, word by word, from the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia. The Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia is the first printed edition of the Masoretic text, derived from the Leningrad Codex of 1008 AD, which is the original text of reference of the Bible for the Roman Catholic Church, for the Bible of the Christian Protestant Churches - the King James Version - and for the Torah of the Jewish religion. Mauro's media relations partner, Greg Rubini is an Italian translator who works with him in communicating with worldwide broadcasters. JIM MARRS is an award-winning journalist and has over 30 years experience with several Texas newspapers. In 1999, he began teaching a course on UFOs, perhaps one of the first university level UFO courses in the nation. Jim also investigated the U.S. Army's remote viewing program three years before it was publicly acknowledged by the CIA and then produced "Alien Agenda." In addition, his book, "Rule by Secrecy," has been termed an "underground best-seller". So tune in this Wednesday at 9pm eastern for a ride-along in Todd and Ken's investigative walk-through of Mario's research notes and Jim's insight, right here on the Inception Radio Network.
I am sorry I don't or can't provide a Method for 'Click and Listen micjer. I have tried to see if there is a way for me to use VLC Media Player, but, it wouldn't matter if most of the peoples PC's couldn't support it. :(
I will try too explain how to get the show via Inception radio Network. There is no other way to listen if you can't access it this way, sorry.
Or try to go here: Paradigm Unhinged (http://paradigmunhinged.com/archives/) There will be a 'White Box' with a scroll on it under the Paradigm Unhinged Banner, scroll the items in the box all the way to the bottom.Make sure the 04/24/13 Mauro Biglino & Jim Marrs are highlighted in blue The shows listed in this box are in categorical 'Oldest to Newest' so it will be at the very end of the list in this box.
Below this box will be a "Download" Click Button, click it and you are on your way.
In the mean time, I am seeing if there is any online Audio storage I can find for this type of file. It is available for iTunes and can be archived, but that is a pay as you go software supplier.
Try these steps I have given you and then reply back to this thread to let me know if these methods were successful. OK micjer?
Once again, sorry for the complexity, it is the only way to currently share this kind of Audio file.
With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher
I got to a point where it said this.
This content is for IRN Insider and IRN Fan Club members only. Visit the site and log in/register to read.
Perhaps I need to register with the website to be able to listen to it.
Update. I did get it to work. It took 10 minutes to download.
Thanks for the link mate.
Quote from: micjer on April 27, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
Update. I did get it to work. It took 10 minutes to download.
Thanks for the link mate.
I am so glad too hear that micjer. This episode was phenomenal. The show usually runs for 2 hour's, but it went a half an hour over. Wasn't from questions being asked, it was the researcher's continually discussing the research and how it both supported and defined from one to another.
Though I know the thread took a nose dive with Christianity at first, it wasn't meant to be that way, it was prowess of the knowledge that was received in the listening too the show. Quite a profound show my friend. I am hoping you will enjoy all it has too offer as far as insight and understanding.
1WW
Quote from: micjer on April 27, 2013, 01:22:27 PM
I got to a point where it said this.
This content is for IRN Insider and IRN Fan Club members only. Visit the site and log in/register to read.
Perhaps I need to register with the website to be able to listen to it.
It never crossed my mind micjer, it could be a fact, but it is free to sign up, they have live shows all week long, 7 days a week, and it is a Q&A formatted chat room area, can partake as the show is live. Good people, great shows, even for the esoteric and religious at times, but very recognized people with in the fields of research, just check out the shows they have on the "Chat" Tab, takes you to a URL of:
http://www.inceptionradionetwork.com/listen-live (http://www.inceptionradionetwork.com/listen-live)
click on the player in the upper right hand corner, let it load, it is a faced player extracted, then scroll down to the box below chat area, click on window 'Join Conversation' select Guest, enter the user name you would like to have, click OK and you are chatting with live hosts and guests. ;) Most of the shows are during afternoon and evening hours, and there is an Itenerary available below the chat as well showing listing of shows throughout the week, one week at a time, but they are playing replay shows 24 hours a day and there is usually someone there to stir up a conversation, and believe me, they have their skeptics... HA ha ha ha "Hey Z, they have Greer lover's there!!!" LOL ;) :P
Not too bad for free and also right up our alley for entertainment and investigative prowess with in such fields of Paranormal and scientific research.
Thanks for pointing this out, I hope all of us here take the time to visit Inception Radio Networks chat room and listen to the shows, some really good folks there, not too mentioned seasoned and recognized hosts of research and accredited with in their perspective fields of radio broadcasting shows.
IRN is saved to my tool bar, I listen while I browse, or choose from archives the shows I wish to hear, it is a win win for the person that signs up with IRN, they have all kinds of Apps and different methods of logging into chat, i.e. FB or Twitter accounts. Very versatile. :)
1WW
Links works for inline streaming....BUT..if you click on the purpleish microphone icon at the bottom of the page you go to a list of all the programs for free download at I-Tunes...Listen at your own leisure...The white Pegasus would look great on a size XXX Black T-Shirt...Just saying..
Wonderful show. Sure glad I persisted. Thanks so much for the link 1WW.
I have always believed that the truth was in the bible, yet not the way it was interpreted. With the clarification that was presented, it combines the bible with science that makes total sense.
I really didn't get the sense that it challenges christianity, only clarified many of the biblical stories that seemed out there. By entering an Alien agenda and DNA manipulation it is answer for the missing link.
Quote from: andolin on April 27, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
Links works for inline streaming....BUT..if you click on the purpleish microphone icon at the bottom of the page you go to a list of all the programs for free download at I-Tunes...Listen at your own leisure...The white Pegasus would look great on a size XXX Black T-Shirt...Just saying..
Thanks for the information andolin, I did not know that. I have been a regular at the IRN chat area for over a year now, and I usually catch the shows live, but lately with in the influx of very serious and important researchers digging even deeper into case scenario's, even self healing things, I felt it about time to let my fellow PRC bud's in on the great information that the IRN provides.
I did post this link with in the "Recommended Books and Web links" of PRC, but never got any attention, was a bummer for me not being able to convey the greatness of these shows and hosts. I am hoping that you will frequent the IRN chat area andolin, I am there often, be sure to drop me a Hello, for I am 1Worldwatcher there as well. ;)
1WW
Quote from: micjer on April 27, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
Wonderful show. Sure glad I persisted. Thanks so much for the link 1WW.
I have always believed that the truth was in the bible, yet not the way it was interpreted. With the clarification that was presented, it combines the bible with science that makes total sense.
I really didn't get the sense that it challenges christianity, only clarified many of the biblical stories that seemed out there. By entering an Alien agenda and DNA manipulation it is answer for the missing link.
I am glad too see that with in my assumptions I was correct and in proper thought too have shared this here with in PRC forums. I am so glad you enjoyed it, was a lot of fun when it was a live show, absolutely fascinating details and conjecture of how the teachers of such things of religion may have been taught wrong all along.
I am hoping you are going t be around the IRN chat area as well micjer!! It is a great place for getting answers from particular guests and a very good avenue for new connections for thought provoking new insights.
If you haven't gotten the chance, just look at the roster of the weeks events and the names associated with them, they are just as we are, as far as getting the answer's and discussing or debating such things!! ;)
By the way micjer, I am 1Worldwatcher there as well, be sure too say hello my friend
1WW
Ill be watching this 1WW....thanks for the post.
As for the replies from the religious....dont let them get you down...they use persistence and blinders to keep their weak, fragile faith afloat, but rest assured when the time comes to die or change realities, they will see their God and Sun of God...yes...SUN....was all an allegorical hodge podge of twisted and misinterpreted facts.
Keep searching,1WW, as some have said...the truth is out there!
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on April 27, 2013, 05:24:56 PM
Ill be watching this 1WW....thanks for the post.
As for the replies from the religious....dont let them get you down...they use persistence and blinders to keep their weak, fragile faith afloat, but rest assured when the time comes to die or change realities, they will see their God and Sun of God...yes...SUN....was all an allegorical hodge podge of twisted and misinterpreted facts.
Keep searching,1WW, as some have said...the truth is out there!
Cheers!
Le
Very kind of you LE, means a lot coming from you. ;)
I have not one intention of floating pooh toward our religious believer's by no means. I could care less if they are thus, but if they are going to hammer me for my interpretation and a much easier understanding for all that it en-tales, please move on..
I am hoping too see some of you there when shows are playing, be cool having my Cronies there to reiterate and discuss first hand, ya know? LOL
Either way, I appreciate your input LE. :D
1WW
i would've preferred if jim had done the presentation. there's something about bigilino's voice that irritates me, and i don't think it's because he speaks italian.
as far as the subject as regards christians, this is how i see it:
--too much negative press has circulated regarding ET. this puts them on shaky ground when it comes to anybody, much less people who are understandably suspicious of the current events (people who read prophecy, for example).
--catholicism has pre-prejudiced protestanism regarding the text. some things can't be helped, but others, others are glaring examples of a continuation of some papal interpretation, such as the flood story interpretation. what a mess.
--religious people who consider the bible a holy book or half of a holy book, depending on who ya talk to, have been taught the papal version of many of the events, which even effected the protestant english translators later on. if you show them precisely what the text says, and why it's there, they will ignore it in favor of the inherited catholic view, and there's literally nothing that will change their minds other than personal discovery.
atheists tend to be the same way. you can show them precisely what it says and where it says it and why it says it, and they will just brush it off, cause there's literally nothing that will change their minds other than personal discovery. that's the human condition.
Quote from: andolin on April 27, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
.The white Pegasus would look great on a size XXX Black T-Shirt...Just saying..
Yeah I will get around to doing T-shirts soon. Its a money issue because of the initial setup fees and first order. I am slowly climbing out of that barrel :P but still tough. Wife finally got a 40 hr a week job so things will look up next month.
Perhaps I can do a pre order thing :D If I have enough orders I can go put in the first lot... even if its just a brak even thing.
I will work on designs in the next few days.... see if I can do a color reversal on the logo
Quote from: undo11 on April 27, 2013, 08:42:43 PMyou can show them precisely what it says and where it says it and why it says it, and they will just brush it off, cause there's literally nothing that will change their minds other than personal discovery. that's the human condition.
IMO Christians should have tossed out that old Jewish book from the get go and started from Jesus :D Just rewrite it :D
But yeah I agree... one of my favorite questions I bug Christians with is how many animals of each kind got on that boat... I RARELY get a straight answer and most just spout the 'two by two' line :D
Well, Biglino doenst mince words, and this particular segment of his website, which lays it out from the aspect of a qualified translator of the original Masoretic texts, says volumes about the origins of brainwashing and control of religion, and Christianity as perceived by the later King James and Constantine.
Zorgon, I agree there could be a great future for Christianity if the religion just cleaned up its facts and applied them as countless other books have been done over the centuries. Start over for Jesus....sounds like a possible name for a cult, eh? :P
Yes Undo, I agree he is grating to listen to...its easier to bypass the videos and read the website...and the books...which should be on the Pegasus Amazon link to the right---->
http://www.maurobiglino.com/research.php
So what did Biglino have to say about the translations and etymology of those original texts?
QuoteIn the whole path of the research on the original Masoretic text of the Bible, a constant factor emerged.
And this constant factor is concreteness.
There is concreteness in the Book of Genesis, in the Exodus, in the Book of Numbers, in the Deuteronomy, in the Book of Zechariah.
Wherever we have looked, and examined the original text in depth and with accuracy, we have found concreteness.
The Elohim and Yahweh are flesh and bones individuals, the Angels - the Malakhim - are flesh and bones individuals, the "Blessing" has a concrete and very material meaning, even the kevod - translated in modern Christian Bibles as "The Glory of God" - is a very concrete and material device routinely used by Yahweh.
We have not found any trace of anything "spiritual" in the Bible.
It appears evident that all the spiritual meanings we read in today's Old Testament are just a theological construction, inserted on purpose, distorting the meaning of the original Biblical text.
There is no "God" in the Bible.[/quote]
Ahh the sweet smell of burning meat...er....I mean truth!
Cheers, 1WW, great thread indeed!
Le
Hi Undo,
I couldn't have said it better myself.... :D well put...
Why some want to turn anything thy can't understand into a religion or reject, is beyond me.
All writings are historical records of the human species.... Nothing more nothing less... :)
Hi micjer,
QuoteBy entering an Alien agenda and DNA manipulation it is answer for the missing
link.
Re. the "human Primate".... You are onto it...
The
A' DAM Model, (and
EVE from
A' DAM)
The modified
CAIN "Mode", and the not so corrupt Primate version,
SETH.
The
ABEL "Version", was
eradicated by the
CAIN (half Alien) "version".
CAIN was
half "Alien" and
half "human" ! (His father was Alien who Committed
Adultery with
EVE.)
And later the Cross breeding involved
200 (made up of
20 Alien "species", that is according to the writings)
Some of the genetic mismatches, also produced Giants... (according to the writings)
These Aliens also corrupted the
other Animals and Plants on Earth also. (according to the writings)
Today the
whole "human species" is
Part "Alien" and
Part "human".
Many of these Ancient witlings also contain info. regarding
WHAT (
Not Who),
produces the worldly experience.
WHAT presents the experience, is a "
Processing Construct", some refer to as the Soul. :)
Even the definition of the word "Soul", has been bastardised through time, and tuned
into some corrupt and misguided rubbish, by those making a religion out of fear and superstition.
WHAT "Experiences" the flesh and environment, is our
Real "Selves" (
NOT the flesh)
which is
AWARENESS or
LIFE.
Le is Correct ......
When we
ALL experience "Death" as I had in 1973... as well as countless others,
we are soon made aware of these things, and the rubbish talked on Earth is soon Exposed ! :)
i think bigilino would do well to consider that sometimes, yahweh wasn't the name of just one guy. sometimes yahweh was pharaoh. sometimes pharaoh was god. in effect
THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE IS PHARAONIC. IT'S AN EGYPTIAN-MESOPOTAMIAN BOOK.
jesus was a pharaoh, in fact, the last pharaoh. enki was a pharaoh, potentially, the first pharaoh
Quote from: Littleenki on April 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PMStart over for Jesus....sounds like a possible name for a cult, eh? :P
What's in a NAME?
Jesus... Jesusites... Jesuits...
ummm ::)
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 01:52:21 AM
jesus was a pharaoh, in fact, the last pharaoh. enki was a pharaoh, potentially, the first pharaoh
Well cool becuase the first Rosicrucian (traditionally) was a Pharoah and the second was his Queen :D
So instead of "All roads Lead to Rome... maybe we should rewrite THAT one to to All Roads lead to Alexandria...
Hmmm wasn't that where all the REALLY GOOD BOOKS were kept?
:o
::)
:-X
There are so many good response posts with in this thread, I fear I have not enough time to reply too them all, for that I am truly sorry.
I have to agree first and foremost that these indoctrinated writing's, too or for me were the problem of the entirety of having a belief system based on half truths, as LE, Matrix and Undo have expanded on.
I for one, do not hold people accountable for them being self proclaimed 'Religious Follower's', what gets me a bit perturbed is that when such hard minded individuals of these affiliated belief systems have to take on the chore of the attempting converting of the world and not really know what the teaching's were really meant to be.
For the first part of my life, I was religiously affiliated and was baptized a Lutheran by my parents. As I got older and became more 'Aware' of what was being said and how I was interpreting such messages, they did not mesh from my personal take and the teacher's a preaching the so called "Word of God" . I read the Bible several times trying to achieve that "Awe" of the power of God and the Carpenter's presence with in me or about me, but it was a self induced falsification, and I did the church thing for years feeling this way.
I wasn't sure what it was that 'I' was too make or believe as far as the whole 'God' thing, but, during my journey of researching the 'Why I feel the way I feel' I found out much too do with what I was looking for with in the Ancient Alien DNA manipulation theory, which to me is the most sound for all things questioned and answered thus far.
I have never disrespected a religious person, unless I was attacked, but even then, I had the sense to walk away from the conversation. I am very content with in my new found Epiphany of religious understanding with the whole AA approach, and that, for lack of a better word, is a 'Enlightening' that keeps me both 'Aware' and 'None Confused' with in explanation.
You are Ladies and Gentlemen here with in this thread. Thanks for keeping it civil thus far. I do welcome the religious types in too explore what is being conveyed by the Biglino and Marrs interview, but I do not wish to split hairs and become the redundant typical argumentative religious topical discussions that usually en-tales with in such discussions.
You are all Scholars and I love the rhetorical conversation going on, will hopefully have more soon from Marrs himself, waiting for his reply as o fright now. I am also going to get a Q & A for Biglino, so will keep you updated on when this will happen as well, then we can submit some of those questions you would have asked provided you could have joined in the live show.
With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher
And Thanks for the 'Kudos' LE, Glad you are enjoying the topic as much as I am. 8)
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 28, 2013, 12:03:01 AM
Hi Undo,
I couldn't have said it better myself.... :D well put...
Why some want to turn anything thy can't understand into a religion or reject, is beyond me.
All writings are historical records of the human species.... Nothing more nothing less... :)
Hi micjer,
Re. the "human Primate".... You are onto it...
The A' DAM Model, (and EVE from A' DAM)
The modified CAIN "Mode", and the not so corrupt Primate version, SETH.
The ABEL "Version", was eradicated by the CAIN (half Alien) "version".
CAIN was half "Alien" and half "human" ! (His father was Alien who Committed Adultery with EVE.)
And later the Cross breeding involved 200 (made up of 20 Alien "species", that is according to the writings)
Some of the genetic mismatches, also produced Giants... (according to the writings)
These Aliens also corrupted the other Animals and Plants on Earth also. (according to the writings)
Today the whole "human species" is Part "Alien" and Part "human".
Many of these Ancient witlings also contain info. regarding WHAT (Not Who),
produces the worldly experience.
WHAT presents the experience, is a "Processing Construct", some refer to as the Soul. :)
Even the definition of the word "Soul", has been bastardised through time, and tuned
into some corrupt and misguided rubbish, by those making a religion out of fear and superstition.
WHAT "Experiences" the flesh and environment, is our Real "Selves" (NOT the flesh)
which is AWARENESS or LIFE.
Le is Correct ......
When we ALL experience "Death" as I had in 1973... as well as countless others,
we are soon made aware of these things, and the rubbish talked on Earth is soon Exposed ! :)
the matrix traveller is not as truthful as he would have you believe.
his connections to the global LIEING CHEETING ABUSING illuminated network, illuminating!!!
tell them what they do, the matrix traveller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjp5vVv4OEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzjQf8GRbYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
the matrix traveller, found it FUNNY ETC that a illuminated network abused me, he laughed and said he does not care for good or evil, just that it was funny that they ABUSED ME.
with there illuminated magick, over riding power they used over me, the matrix traveller said it is LIFE, or they are using the light to abuse me with there power so it is good, and all he can do is laugh in my face with global illuminated network he associates.
to give him credit the christ is by his side in all this all they concern about is LIGHT and LIFE, hence why the GLOBAL ABUSE is allowed.
this is HELL.
newtheories
when the elohim (aka the atum) created the adam (the atum, named after their creators), they created them male and female. not hermaphrodites, but rather some were male adam and some were female adam. in this state we were COPIES of the elohim. this means, YE ARE GODS, just as jesus said. however, ye gods are currently stuck in 3d flesh bodies, modelled, not after god, but after nature, thus the references to the battle between the flesh of the body and the spirit in each of us.
in effect, you are a son of elohim, literally. AND a son of flesh (DNA, the serpent). it's all in the text. every human being has the potential, latent within them, just as jesus said, to inherit what is already theirs, just claim it. jobs done. you're a miracle worker, a time lord, stuffed in a malfunctioning biological environmental suit.
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 04:33:33 AM
newtheories
when the elohim (aka the atum) created the adam (the atum, named after their creators), they created them male and female. not hermaphrodites, but rather some were male adam and some were female adam. in this state we were COPIES of the elohim. this means, YE ARE GODS, just as jesus said. however, ye gods are currently stuck in 3d flesh bodies, modelled, not after god, but after nature, thus the references to the battle between the flesh of the body and the spirit in each of us.
in effect, you are a son of elohim, literally. AND a son of flesh (DNA, the serpent). it's all the text. every human being has the potential, latent within them, just as jesus said, to inherit what is already theirs, just claim it. jobs done. you're a miracle worker, a time lord, stuffed in a malfunctional biological environmental suit.
i can blow your mind, we are not as free as the matrix traveller will have you believe, watch those vidoes for just one example, i know more.
the matrix traveller, actually sold his soul, he is a spent force, i even have the proof.
well since i think hell is a wormhole or a wormhole destination, i do not think it means what you think it means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8y-qy9N01I
the illuminated ones control everything here, good and evil, so you will be bent to there control, and believe what they feed you, unless someone like me can show you otherwise, and i can.
they control the matrix partitions as well, here, what the matrix traveller talks about, because all that is happening here is cloning, and they are controlling it, with the aliens and illuminated ones etc.
there are near infinite, here, so they control the clones coming down here.
have no fear when you see the truth though, i can show you.
this is your real attempt to see liberation.
not be put in one of the controlled matrix clones, cells.
so look at the "alien" at area 51, at about 20 minutes into this video
YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN SHOWN THIS BEFORE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 04:36:41 AM
i can blow your mind, we are not as free as the matrix traveller will have you believe, watch those vidoes for just one example, i know more.
Matrix has never said we were ever "Free" and that is out right wrong. Matrix has never diluted any topic of conservation within such topical discussions, the choice is our's to either use to our advantage or dismiss as we see fit.
For whatever reason you have marked Matrix as a bashing board, this is not the thread nor the way to correctly expose your so thought ideologies of Matrix's intention's with in these forums.
It seems as if you have 'Personal Issues' with in the Illuminati acclimated area, and by far you are and have been way off base with in what you 'Think' Matrix is or what he bring's too us.
We are all individuals, it seems that you have forgotten this, make your choice for yourself, but do not lay accountability upon Matrix, for your personal judgmental flaws with in such debacles and traumatic situations.
As Undo has stated, we are all our own Gods as it were, either stick to the topic of the thread,or kindly remove yourself from posting here just to belittle and slander one of our contributing member's. >:(
1Worldwatcher
newtheories
okay i want you to calm down. listen very carefully to me now. you are losing the big picture. you're losing it because you've concentrated so heavily on the minutae of the dark side, in order to identify its various tendrils, that you've lost sight of the shoreline. focus on jesus only for awhile. get some perspective. he said to think on beautiful things, to be wise as serpents but gentle as lambs. currently, you are undergoing some hefty negative discovery and its creating a negative place for you instead of the beauty jesus refers to. stop, take a deep breath. refocus. or, take my word for this, you will make yourself physically ill.
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on April 28, 2013, 04:48:06 AM
Matrix has never said we were ever "Free" and that is out right wrong. Matrix has never diluted any topic of conservation within such topical discussions, the choice is our's to either use to our advantage or dismiss as we see fit.
For whatever reason you have marked Matrix as a bashing board, this is not the thread nor the way to correctly expose your so thought ideologies of Matrix's intention's with in these forums.
It seems as if you have 'Personal Issues' with in the Illuminati acclimated area, and by far you are and have been way off base with in what you 'Think' Matrix is or what he bring's too us.
We are all individuals, it seems that you have forgotten this, make your choice for yourself, but do not lay accountability upon Matrix, for your personal judgmental flaws with in such debacles and traumatic situations.
As Undo has stated, we are all our own Gods as it were, either stick to the topic of the thread,or kindly remove yourself from posting here just to belittle and slander one of our contributing member's. >:(
1Worldwatcher
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 04:47:25 AM
so look at the "alien" at area 51, at about 20 minutes into this video
YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN SHOWN THIS BEFORE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
NO ONE showed you this here, but me.
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 04:49:19 AM
newtheories
okay i want you to calm down. listen very carefully to me now. you are losing the big picture. you're losing it because you've concentrated so heavily on the minutae of the dark side, in order to identify its various tendrils, that you've lost sight of the shoreline. focus on jesus only for awhile. get some perspective. he said to think on beautiful things, to be wise as serpents but gentle as lambs. currently, you are undergoing some hefty negative discovery and its creating a negative place for you instead of the beauty jesus refers to. stop, take a deep breath. refocus. or, take my word for this, you will make yourself physically ill.
i know all about it, they feed on LOVE and LIGHT as well hence why they are so powerful, think for a minute, what you do not know is how i was abused, and the matrix traveller said it is funny and that all he can so is laugh in my face about.
i want you to start with the alien at 20 minutes just to see how you have not seen, and that in one way the bible is actually real, i think the poster rdunk will like those videos, you cannot deny the WHOLE GLOBE as a biblical picturgram.
i have my issues but that is beside YOUR POINT! for your self look your self and you will SEE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 04:49:19 AM
newtheories
okay i want you to calm down. listen very carefully to me now. you are losing the big picture. you're losing it because you've concentrated so heavily on the minutae of the dark side, in order to identify its various tendrils, that you've lost sight of the shoreline. focus on jesus only for awhile. get some perspective. he said to think on beautiful things, to be wise as serpents but gentle as lambs. currently, you are undergoing some hefty negative discovery and its creating a negative place for you instead of the beauty jesus refers to. stop, take a deep breath. refocus. or, take my word for this, you will make yourself physically ill.
okay i agree i will calm down, i was just trying to show you something you have never seen, and to get in here before some illuminated posters would have blacklisted it, but seen as you are a mod undo, that is not a problem now, and you watched the videos you an now ask me questions!.
see how that works?.
look at 20 minutes on this video because i know this will catch your attention! you cannot deny this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
newtheories
oh i know about the abuse thing. been there, had it done to me. in fact, i would suggest it hastened my physical delibiltation till i was seriously sick in a hospital, went into a full blown coma. when i woke up, miraculously, i might add, i was told that the insurance company was there trying to convince my husband to turn off the machines that were keeping my body alive (i was, for all intents and purposes, dead as a door nail). the events that lead up to that, were not good. the healing process was even harder. but there is one thing consistent thru out -- if i hadn't learned how to switch my focus when the negative was starting to become a mania, i would've never healed. that is a fact. do not drive yourself into that state of being.
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 05:01:13 AM
okay i agree i will calm down, i was just trying to show you something you have never seen, and to get in here before some illuminated posters would have blacklisted it, but seen as you are a mod undo, that is not a problem now, and you watched the videos now and can ask questions!.
why is biblical prophesy all PICTOGRAM over the earth?.
see how that works?.
look at 20 minutes on this video because i know this will catch your attention! you cannot deny this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
new theories
i will watch it, but for the record, i do not believe nibiru was a planet. i believe nibiru was the name of enlil's temple city in sumer, known today as nippur. the etymology is nibiru, nibru, nibbur, nippur. ((dyslexic flip in babylon, turned b's into p's and z's into s's. abzu became apsu, for example).
i will comment on this as i go along
i do believe that is a gate. good pic. thanks for sharing it.
i don't believe masons are inherently evil nor into inherently evil things. if you think about it, the entire universe can be described with no other language but math. so their interest in math and geometry is akin to their desire to discover the language of god, even if they don't always agree that that is what they are looking for.
okay, back to watching. i'm interested in how this ties into the op's post.
do not underestimate the power, care is taken, and have no fear with the example presented, those videos serve a purpose to break up a deception that you cannot actually think a certain way, it smashes a certain kind of mind control.
so i posted personal things in my previous posts, and lets not go overboard about it either!.
i post this to open your eyes watch his videos, though i am not so much the follower like he is, everyone various, this is about YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
YOUR KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 05:26:47 AM
do not underestimate the power, care is taken, and have no fear with the example presented, those videos serve a purpose to break up a deception that you cannot actually think a certain way, it smashes a certain kind of mind control.
so i posted personal things in my previous posts, about another poster, and lets not go overboard about it either!.
i post this to open your eyes watch his videos, though i am not so much the follower like he is, everyone various, this is about YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
YOUR KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
i think the seated man has a pipe on his lap, that contains a bowl with smoke wafting out of it. potentially a censor for incense used in religious ceremony. those are not physically connected to the sleeping man, merely drifting in the scene, one tendril drifting away, the other drifting towards. where'd ya get the pic? i'd like to investigate it further.
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on April 28, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
There are so many good response posts with in this thread, I fear I have not enough time to reply too them all, for that I am truly sorry.
Try shorter posts :P We don't have any rule against one liners that make a quick point or acknowledge a member ;)
This is not an Illuminati Thread NewTheories!!
I watched the video, I understand you have some real close ties to your creator, or faith or whatever, but this thread is for the discussion of the Biglino and MArrs Discussion.
I am betting you have not given it even a look.
I would please advise to have you not post Illuminati s information with in my thread discussion here.
I have no doubt you are adamant about this Evil vs. Good stuff, but you can go start another thread titled as such and then wait for the masses to comment. I for one am tired of trying to ask you nicely, it is getting old, I do not want Illuminati associated with in this thread.
Please, Cease and desist with this on going mockery of the topic I was presenting.
I don't care about the Illuminati, never have and never will. I do not have one reason to even discuss such things, especially with in a thread dedicated to the Ancient Alien and incorrect Biblical teachings and translations.
PLEASE GO AWAY NOW!!!! Thank you.
1WW
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 04:16:25 AM
the matrix traveller is not as truthful as he would have you believe.
Why not? He seems pretty straight up to me....
At least the stuff in his private section seems to look good to those of us who like what he presents... even if not all understand it.
Are you the guy that was taunting him over at ATS? Seems the email is familiar...
Quote from: zorgon on April 28, 2013, 05:45:31 AM
Try shorter posts :P We don't have any rule against one liners that make a quick point or acknowledge a member ;)
TY! :P
Quote from: zorgon on April 28, 2013, 05:53:05 AM
Why not? He seems pretty straight up to me....
At least the stuff in his private section seems to look good to those of us who like what he presents... even if not all understand it.
Are you the guy that was taunting him over at ATS? Seems the email is familiar...
well, i have never said he does not know a thing about the matrix, one thing though, we have had a kind of falling out, and he would not listen to me about what i know, so that is what that is.
but lets not let it spoil the research, and i have posted videos from a devout style christian guy like a rdrunk style person, yet i know all about magick, so know one is being hypocritical here, either.
and i can post sensible on your forum, to post the videos i did i literally had to smash through magickly blocks, this world is all about magic.
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 05:26:47 AM
it smashes a certain kind of mind control.
The most powerful mind control on the planet is organized religion... I bet they wish that they could still torture you into believing like the 'goode olde days' :P Nothing like a good pair of thumb screws to get your thinking adjusted :D
As for the "Illuminati" do you realize that a LOT of them are devout Christians, Jews and Muslims?
Even Martin Luther was a Rosicrucian Master
(http://blogfiles8.naver.net/data17/2007/5/4/183/1-vjinho.jpg)
and rosicrucians believe jesus existed and was a master magician. whereas i believe jesus was a pharaoh and god. and that these things are nearly inseparable in definition. only the slant the individual puts on it, changes its meaning, otherwise, they are seemingly identical.
Quote from: zorgon on April 28, 2013, 06:09:10 AM
The most powerful mind control on the planet is organized religion... I bet they wish that they could still torture you into believing like the 'goode olde days' :P Nothing like a good pair of thumb screws to get your thinking adjusted :D
As for the "Illuminati" do you realize that a LOT of them are devout Christians, Jews and Muslims?
Even Martin Luther was a Rosicrucian Master
(http://blogfiles8.naver.net/data17/2007/5/4/183/1-vjinho.jpg)
i know what you mean, but its a bit here and a bit there, the waters are very muddy, and they can stop time to mind control this world, ask the matrix traveller if they can stop time.
he is not the only one who knows the matrix.
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 06:05:32 AM
to post the videos i did i literally had to smash through magickly blocks, this world is all about magic.
Seriously? It's pretty easy really... just put the video ID into the YT icon and Voila no magic, just technology... And there is no magic that can over power my delete button :P
1WW
maybe what new theories is picking up on is bigilino himself. big is sharing interesting information but it seems, from my perspective anyway, to be missing the forest for the trees. i don't adhere to that approach, although it helps to isolate information in order to research it, it doesn't help to isolate it and ignore anything around it that might suggest your idea is not correct. it makes more sense to me if its consistent . i also like jim marrs more than big. can't explain it past that. maybe i need to sit thru the entire video, but this is like my umpteenth time of trying to watch it and i just can't stand his presentation past the first few minutes. for all i know, he may be onto something and he explains it later in the vid, and i can't get that far cause he's irritating to listen to.
Quote from: zorgon on April 28, 2013, 06:15:27 AM
Seriously? It's pretty easy really... just put the video ID into the YT icon and Voila no magic, just technology... And there is no magic that can over power my delete button :P
like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1T7A1kCKE
thing is, i know where you are coming from, though it took a devout style christian to break down the information he posts, in those videos.
but, i also appreciate the good illuminati as you call them, everything has its place, and can be put in its place.
the thing where people are called ignorant is not always the case, though, they get messed around with, so it is very erroneous to call them that.
not saying you did, you are quite level headed, but a meme a lot of people propagate.
but i mean people say this and that is not possible, and revel in there power, not knowing just what is possible, that even the bible can be proved correct, just one of those things.
i am not a bible basher either, but lets go with the investigation anyway.
especially if we are looking for more knowledge.
there is a saying KNOWLEDGE is POWER.
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 06:18:08 AM
for all i know, he may be onto something and he explains it later in the vid, and i can't get that far cause he's irritating to listen to.
Use the slider to jump ahead and catch snippets That is what I do to see if it gets better :D
Like that video New Theories posted I didn't make it past the first minute... The opening premise already gave the purpose and the ending 8)
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 06:18:08 AM
1WW
maybe what new theories is picking up on is bigilino himself. big is sharing interesting information but it seems, from my perspective anyway, to be missing the forest for the trees. i don't adhere to that approach, although it helps to isolate information in order to research it, it doesn't help to isolate it and ignore anything around it that might suggest your idea is not correct. it makes more sense to me if its consistent . i also like jim marrs more than big. can't explain it past that. maybe i need to sit thru the entire video, but this is like my umpteenth time of trying to watch it and i just can't stand his presentation past the first few minutes. for all i know, he may be onto something and he explains it later in the vid, and i can't get that far cause he's irritating to listen to.
I have no idea what you are talking about when you say 'Watch the video' pertaining to the Biglino and Marrs interview via the Inception Radio Network, there is nothing too watch Undo, it is a radio broadcast, it is 2 and 1/2 hours long (Approximately) I have provided the link with in the first few pages, think you might be talking about the seminar Biglino was giving to theology students. That is not the main course I was wanting too share.
The entirety of the interview is here, go under the 'Paradigm Unhinged' banner, below it there is a selection window, go down to 4/24/13 Biglino&Marrs, high light it in blue then click the 'Down Load' button below it, then you can listen to the show I am pertaining to .
Inception Radio Network-Paradigm Unhinged (http://paradigmunhinged.com/archives/)
I think you will enjoy this more, if it is the problem we are having in this communication Undo. ;)
1WW
Quote from: NewTheories on April 28, 2013, 06:24:07 AM
the thing where people are called ignorant is not always the case, though, they get messed around with, so it is very erroneous to call them that.
'ignorant' is the correct and politically correct term... I did not say 'stupid'. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge on a subject. Willful ignorance is still believing the lie when the truth is show. Stupid.... welll there is no hope for them :P Send them to the mines on Mars
Quotei am not a bible basher either, but lets go with the investigation anyway.
Well technically this is not a religious forum, though there always seems to be a tendency to drag relgion back into it. In this case the OP video is about religion so logically it will draw such debate.
We have a section here devoted to religion... it is a private area where those wishing to go at it may do so with out disrupting the rest of the forum with this age old argument :D I can give you access if you like. I forsee some mod might be moving some posts soon ;)
Quotethere is a saying KNOWLEDGE is POWER.
The reason secret societies were created in the first place was that certain knowledge in the wrong hands gives them too much power.
Would you want a gang banger knowing how to make nukes in his garage? Would you let a kindergarten teacher operate on your brain after reading a book on brain surgery during breaks?
The biggest problem today with th einternet is too much free access to too much knowledge... without an option to learn or be taught the Wisdom that goes with that knowledge
Too much Knowledge gives some people too much Power... and then you get bad "Illuminati" who don't give a damn who they use that power against
okay i finally was able to watch it by turning off the sound and just reading the captions. he's onto something . i've been saying this for awhile now. there are ufos in the bible. in ezekiel 1 for example, someone who looks like god, is depicted riding in a flying contrivance that exists into earth's air space, via a hole in the sky. it's so obvious once you realize what you're reading that it's describing something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjfhWxZ0xUI
how's he know what god looked like if no one had seen god and lived? i think that whole spiel about not living if you've seen god, is a later contrivance to hide who or WHAT the word "god" applied to at any given moment. if it was pharaoh, the israelites were not supposed to realize they were still the charges of a pharaoh. what pharaoh is the question.
i also theorized, that since scientists have discovered the universe's planets, stars and moons, were created by super massive black holes, that word for god had become associated with those who used wormholes and black holes / white holes, as a means of conveyance, either across galaxies or dimensions or both. at this level, theoretical physics melds related concepts into each other. bending space and time via a wormhole would have the equivalent effect of changing the traveller's dimension from physical matter to streams of energy. perhaps photon streams.
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 07:00:00 AM
okay i finally was able to watch it by turning off the sound and just reading the captions. he's onto something . i've been saying this for awhile now. there are ufos in the bible. in ezekiel 1 for example, someone who looks like god, is depicted riding in a flying contrivance that exists into earth's air space, via a hole in the sky. it's so obvious once you realize what you're reading that it's describing something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjfhWxZ0xUI
how's he know what god looks like if no one had seen god and lived? i think that whole spiel is a later contrivance to hide who the word "god" applied to at any given moment.
i also theorized, that since scientists have discovered the universe's planets, stars and moons, were created by super massive black holes, that word for god had become associated with those who used wormholes and black holes / white holes, as a means of conveyance, either across galaxies or dimensions or both. at this level, theoretical physics melds related concepts into each other. bending space and time via a wormhole would have the equivalent effect of changing the traveller's dimension from physical matter to streams of energy.
UNDO
There is not a video interview, it is a radio broadcast with Jim Marrs and Mauro Biglino, I gave the link above, you have got this all confusing now!!! LOL :P
Radio, Not Video, OK? Ha ha ha
Go to the link titled Inception Radio Paradigm Unhinged, in the click link above, "GO TOO THE LINKS DL AREA FOR THIS INTERVIEW." Then give your intellectual interpretations. You are missing the boat here.
1WW
1WW
i'm getting to that. you also posted a video link to the bigilino video in your op. and that was the first thing i saw after the photo of big.
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 07:09:34 AM
1WW
i'm getting to that. you also posted a video link to the bigilino video in your op. and that was the first thing i saw after the photo of big.
AH, I C , well skip the video there and just go to the interview, you will appreciate it much more.
Thanks for clarifying Undo, just wanted to make sure you were getting the full Monty of what this thread was all about. :D
1WW
i also want to clarify what i meant by "how does he know what god looked like?" i was not addressing that to bigilino but rather ezekiel's reference to the being that came out of the hole in the sky, on a flying throne that had the appearance of sapphire. ezekiel claimed the being looked like god. those exact words, looked like god. doesn't say it is god, only looked like god.
how's he know if other references claim humans were not allowed to see god in person as they would die. and they were not allowed to make images of god either. do you see now how the translation of the word for god and the wormhole fits into this? a human being would be ripped to shreds without the proper tech. and even then is the question, are these guys using natural wormholes or wormholes created via tech. the answer to these questions may determine who the creator(s) are and who they aren't.
the radio interview is not accessible without joining the site.
Don't forget about that NASA Christian who set out to prove that there was no way Ezekial saw a spaceship.
He is (was?) a devote Christian and intended to prove that there was no spacecraft so he looked at it from his rocket scientist/engineer point of view... and well...
...turns out he proved the opposite
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BjRRvRLvL.jpg)
The Spaceships of Ezekiel (Bantam Y8378)
Josef F. Blumrich
yeah i don't think if i hadn't watched the stargate movie and tv series, that i would've recognized the description of the gate and wormhole, and emerging ship. once i realized this was a wormhole forming via a gate mechanism, it dawned on me that the parts being described are listed in order of dialing sequence, if you will. their appearance determines constellations involved in the addy. almost identical to the concepts in the film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFn1cpH2B6Q
first it lets you know this is going to open a hole in space to travel into/out of.
then it shows you the constellations involved and direction.
then it describes the event transpiring and the event horizon forms (the firmament) and wallah, there, floating above the wormhole's event horizon, is the contrivance of a being who looks like
"god", flying a beautiful blue crystalline throne above which is a rainbow forming. sounds and looks just like atmsopheric distortion (based on my artistic rendering of the description) and other similar events which effect locality.
One of my favorite set of pictures are these two sent to me from a guy in Germany....
Looks like it is leaving :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Star_Gates/gate_002a.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Star_Gates/gate_003a.jpg)
By the time he took the third picture it was gone
Here are the originals befor clipping
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Star_Gates/gate_001_900.jpg)
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on April 27, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
Thanks for the information andolin, I did not know that. I have been a regular at the IRN chat area for over a year now, and I usually catch the shows live, but lately with in the influx of very serious and important researchers digging even deeper into case scenario's, even self healing things, I felt it about time to let my fellow PRC bud's in on the great information that the IRN provides.
I did post this link with in the "Recommended Books and Web links" of PRC, but never got any attention, was a bummer for me not being able to convey the greatness of these shows and hosts. I am hoping that you will frequent the IRN chat area andolin, I am there often, be sure to drop me a Hello, for I am 1Worldwatcher there as well. ;)
1WW
Spent all day yesterday at the I-Tunes site ...Go to the Radio and or Blog areas...lots of good stuff there....Just need an I-Tunes account, Probably won't find me in a chat room though...To many grandkids stealing away my time...And Z, I'll pre-order and pre-pay, anytime the Pegasus store starts taking orders for those shirts.
Andy
this is how i knew the throne was pyramidal in shape: it's a prism shape of blue crystal and so when the light enters it, it splits into the rainbow like light flowing thru raindrops.
thusly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajU6aqUcNr8
1WW, Just finished listening to the audio file. What a lot to think about. By any chance, do you know if there any transcripts of this tape. I am not asking you to do one. It must be 50 pages long or more. I just let it run and did not take notes. I wanted to see what they had to share first. One could get so deep in this you could use two life times up. I would like to hear more about other scrools compared to the same time lines.... Have you run up against any good time line charts that work along these ideas? Deuem
Quote from: undo11 on April 28, 2013, 07:33:50 AM
the radio interview is not accessible without joining the site.
micjer was having the same issues, be persistent with the site, it will eventually allow you in, if you view back a few posted pages, you will see where micjer gained access, try and search that post out. micjer got in eventually with out signing up.
And if all else fails Undo, the site is free, it has some really good shows to listen to while you are surfing and there are a lot of variable shows with in the archives that are right up your alley, Heidi Hollister- Outlander, John Capello- Just Energy, Dr. Rita Louise- also Just Energy Radio. Check them out. Wouldn't be such a bad thing to sign up, heck, I am listening to the IRN right now as I browse the Web and placing this post..;) Beats the Boob Tube all the time!! :P
IRN Archives and Radio shows every week (http://inceptionradionetwork.com/archives/)
1WW
The Audio link for the Bigilno/Marrs interview works fine...I-Tunes is free...click on the Purple Mic (Podcast Symbol), at the bottom of the page...Hundreds of free podcasts and radio archives...Better than Earthfiles IMHO..
Quote from: andolin on April 28, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
The Audio link for the Bigilno/Marrs interview works fine...I-Tunes is free...click on the Purple Mic (Podcast Symbol), at the bottom of the page...Hundreds of free podcasts and radio archives...Better than Earthfiles IMHO..
Thank you andolin, I keep forgetting about that mic...LOL But, it is another avenue for accessing the interview.
1WW
Quote from: deuem on April 28, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
1WW, Just finished listening to the audio file. What a lot to think about. By any chance, do you know if there any transcripts of this tape. I am not asking you to do one. It must be 50 pages long or more. I just let it run and did not take notes. I wanted to see what they had to share first. One could get so deep in this you could use two life times up. I would like to hear more about other scrools compared to the same time lines.... Have you run up against any good time line charts that work along these ideas? Deuem
I'll see what I can do about a transcript Deuem, have too wait a bit though, I have never searched for one before, or if there is one available at all. I have seen them for some of the IRN shows, just don't' know how too search one out myself my friend. Will give it my best though!! ;)
1WW
okay i had to download Itunes (first time i did it was the wrong version (32 bit) so I had to redownload the correct version (64 bit)).
here's my thoughts on it:
i think he's mostly right. he's missing some crucial stuff, however, and that may skew his view as to what it all means but he certainly is hitting some important points.
for example, he thinks the spirit is a machine. whereas i think the spirit is energy (which may operate the machine but he skips this part and it's an important part because it is what makes you an eternal being)
Quote from: undo11 on April 30, 2013, 02:49:11 AM
here's my thoughts on it:
i think he's mostly right. he's missing some crucial stuff, however, and that may skew his view as to what it all means but he certainly is hitting some important points.
for example, he thinks the spirit is a machine. whereas i think the spirit is energy (which may operate the machine but he skips this part and it's an important part because it is what makes you an eternal being)
I concur on that Undo, this amazing universe might seem mechanical and able to be assembled, then disassembled to it's pieces, but it really is a complex organism, which envelops scalar and exponentially more fractional organisms within it's self.
Differing densities of the selfsame thing make up the entire infinite existence of light, and it is all very, very alive.
Cheers!
Quote from: undo11 on April 30, 2013, 02:49:11 AM
okay i had to download Itunes (first time i did it was the wrong version (32 bit) so I had to redownload the correct version (64 bit)).
I am glad you got too listen to it Undo, I am a bit of the Layman when it comes down to such things as DL or UL with in the PC or hand held devices formatting.. ::)
Quotehere's my thoughts on it:
i think he's mostly right. he's missing some crucial stuff, however, and that may skew his view as to what it all means but he certainly is hitting some important points.
You do know that he openly accepts questions via Email, "Right?" You can contact him from the IRN website archive area, there is an Email address he has posted for Q&A over this topic, he has also states he has rewritten transcripts for the Vatican under their request, which allows me too comfortably accept his credentials and expertise are quite commendable. But, that is me. :D
Quotefor example, he thinks the spirit is a machine. whereas i think the spirit is energy (which may operate the machine but he skips this part and it's an important part because it is what makes you an eternal being)
With in translation and the translator explaining it, I was under the assumption that he was stating that "We are a part of an enormous Machine with our aura or Energy." ? Then Again , 'It's just me here!!" :P
I am sure if you wrote to him Undo, he would reply, Jim Marrs has stated the same, may take a few days to get a reply, but they openly welcome such inquiries for disclosure of their points of views.
I am glad you enjoyed the interview though, means a lot coming from you! "Hey!!! I did something that Undo didn't get upset over!!!" LOL JK I kind of figured someone with your knowledge would enjoy such an interview and topic being discussed. ;)
With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher
LOL well he stated in the video, that the spirit of god was a machine. now i'm gonna have to listen to it all over again. lol
p.s. sitchin says the same thing in the pyramid wars text. he says, enlil's asherah (spirit) was a machine. this is getting interesting.
Quote from: undo11 on May 05, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
p.s. sitchin says the same thing in the pyramid wars text. he says, enlil's asherah (spirit) was a machine. this is getting interesting.
I have the whole "Twelfth Planet Series", I was drawn into the pages reading them, I have also read Graham Hancock and VonDaniken(SP?) which is why I am a very intrigued with what has been brought forth by the whole Ancient Alien theory.
When I was listening to the show live, the question that comes up about Sitchin and other writers of this Ancient Alien topic being proven correct with in their writings and assumptions? Well, that was my question to Marrs and Biglino...LOL.....;)
Something is very 'INNER' connected with the whole Ancient Alien assumption, it beg's too differ for it answers a lot more than what we get with in the average Biblical texts being read as a doctrine of absolute religious aspects, IMHO.
Actually, listening to this interview twice even becomes more profound as you are more aware of what is being extrapolated on and what lies with in. :D
I listened to it a few times already, very powerful statements Undo, really 'Gravitational' for lack of a better word.
1WW
Does anyone have a link or information about finding the English translation of Biglino's book. It is no longer linked on the main website. Thanks.
Andy
a simple search.. hope this helps
The Author - Vigli.orgwww.vigli.org/Biglino/Mauro_Biglino.pdf?CachedIf the reader is interested, he/she can read some excerpts from the English version of Mauro Biglino's book. The Masoretic Text. The Hebrew Masoretic text is the ...
The Harpazo Forum - ALERT!!! Mauro Biglino Alien Bible Translationharpazo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=religion&action=display...?CachedFeb 2, 2012 - 4 posts - 1 author
"The book that will forever change our ideas about the Bible", Uno Editori, is the first Mauro Biglino's book translated in english. This book ...
The book that will forever change our ideas about the Bible | Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/The-book.../325862194112341?Cachedwhy is there no english version of this book for us to purchase? January 5 at 3: 48pm ... Photo: Listen to the radio interview of Mauro Biglino and Jim Marrs! http: ...
Mauro Biglino - The Research Workwww.maurobiglino.com/research.php?CachedThe research work of Mauro Biglino is focused on re-translating the original Hebrew .... can read some excerpts from the English version of Mauro Biglino's book.
Mauro Biglino: Unexpected Bible - Translating it literallylunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Mauro-Biglino-Unexpected-Bible-Translating-...?CachedJan 27, 2013 - 15 posts - 5 authors
"Mauro Biglino translated 23 books of the Bible for the Vatican. He had to translate the ... COMING FROM SPACE" English E-book download at: ...
http://www.holy-bible-aliens.com/?p=122
Welcome on the English blog of Mauro Biglino
http://vimeo.com/42144461
Mauro Biglino Unexpected Bible - Translating it literally (1 of 6) - Eng. subs
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF0390207D7748284
Mauro Biglino is also on Facebook you can join his community HERE
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Thanks Sky...I found most of that...Apparently they are waiting for the revision before releasing the final English translation..I saw the video translations of his lectures and his magazine interviews...I was hoping to find the actual book to add to my paper library....FB page suggests that it will be released soon...It would compliment "The Terra Papers" and Stichens stuff.
Andy
So the matrix is real after all.
I found that to be true long ago.
The machine is our god and auto-responds to its whim.
Amazing!
I will say it again, the first matrix movie was absolutely profound. You have to brush the sugar coating off the message where you can. We are slaves.
Hello Everyone,
Todd Knurr and Ken Storch, hosts of the Paradigm Unhindged radio show have apparently already received a translated version of Mauro Biglino's book.They are continuing the topic of discussion on their radio/internet Radio shows as a ongoing format.
Though the discussion is pretty much one sided for true discussion, Biglino and Marrs have knocked this one out of the park, there are literally millions waiting for these translated copies to hit the market.
Though the discussions on the Paradigm show are rather mundane for anyone to trully have an insight as too what these pages read in their entirety, the topic is interesting for the intellectual prowess they hold with in those pages.
As andolin has mentioned, and with that thought on my mind as well, I had questioned both Marrs and Biglino of the accuracy of the Sitchen and Handcock and VonDanikens works, he has confirmed to me first hand on the live show, this is too be viewed as fact, not as some fiction based ideology from a science fiction writer's mind. Which tells me a lot of what we know and what we think we know for these matters at hand. ;) "Out of the horses Mouth" as one would say andolin.
There are so many new and fascinating things happening right now on our planet, I just hope power and greed don't thwart the whole learning curve process, as I think it may in coming days/weeks/months or years, they don't want us too know anything remotely historically or reality changing to have to rewrite the societal accepted ideologies as being "Misinterpreted" over so many centuries and so many teachers that were taught to teach, and then , come to find out they had been taught and teaches wrong.
Thanks for the Update Sky, haven't been to FB since my youngest moved in with me, so, no need too do FB any more that much. Interesting, a lot of stuff floating to the surface at once here, in a short amount of time, everything to religious accepted beliefs to new scientific break through's with alternative fuel technologies, A lot of new hopeful things, provided TPTB don't get involved?
1WW
Paradigm Unhinged radio show is now on my URL speed dial....I miss my naps when I listen to the archives, Thanks for the update 1WW...I need to visit the bookstore to get some more of Jim Marrs' stuff.....Next up.."Our Occulted History"
Andy
You could at least spell my name correctly, Knurr.
Quote from: Todd K on August 10, 2013, 02:16:08 AM
You could at least spell my name correctly, Knurr.
Spelling in these days of internet speak and texting has become a lost art... I hear rumors they plan to drop it in the skools :P
Fixed it....
Welcome to our asylum
wow glad you brought this back up
does anyone know if it is in print yet here.. i could only find this and i'm due a trip to the book store
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc01No3LV70
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Mauro Biglino translated 23 books of the Bible for the Vatican. He had to translate the Leningrad Codex (the version of the Bible which all three major monotheistic religions - Cristian, Jewish and Muslim - recognize as the official Bible) from the Hebrew, word by word, literally and with no interpretation whatsoever. That is to say, he's not a wannabe kabbalist, conspirationist or ufologist, since the official publishing organism of the Vatican approved and released those books, at least 17 of them. While working on the Bible, he realized that many of the stories this book tells where mistranslated, misinterpreted, mostly on purpose, in order to insert the notion of a spiritual, all-mighty and unerring God. The picture he gives us of the bestseller of all times is surprisingly different from what we all were told. Actually, as soon as he released "THE BOOK THAT WILL FOREVER CHANGE OUR IDEAS ABOUT THE BIBLE - THE GODS COMING FROM SPACE", the Vatican suspended all further publications of Mauro Biglino's works: Let's discover why!
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Thank you Todd Knurr!
luglio 25th, 2013
I desire to publicly thank Todd Knurr, the host of the USA radio that with the co-host Ken Storch he has invited me to his show "Paradigm Unhinged" twice, but, not only, considering that some USA publishing house have thought they cannot publish my book for the big importance of the religious confessions that there are in it, he has launched this appeal during his show:
Please send an email to Llewellyn Publishing asking them to publish Mauro Biglino!!!
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I really want to thank him for his amazing kindness!
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ah Llewellyn..if anyone can get it published they can
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Quote from: Todd K on August 10, 2013, 02:16:08 AM
You could at least spell my name correctly, Knurr.
LOL Todd, glad too see ya here.
As for the name spelling, I went back and seen where I did spell it correctly, so not sure which reference or post you are talking about, sorry it caused offense.
I am still unable to get the response from Biglino's office or secretaries for his reply to my inquiries for his and Mr. Marr's book release, as to the few Q & A's I had for them.
regardless, the book does deserve great recognition, if not for the literary intelligence written on the pages, at least for the acknowledgement of how closely Biglino was to the echelons of the Vatican.
I for one am going to get the book if I have to go hungry for a day or two. I for one am anticipating the read that is going to be quite profound for the conversation. I have read many other's of this topic, and when I had listened in on the IRN Paradigm Unhinged radio interview, it was one of the most profound to date.
So Todd, if you have been offended " I humbly apologize." and regardless of the mishap of my spelling genius, I am glad to see you here and hope to see more of your posts, threads and input, Maybe can get Ken here as well, after all, you two are brother in arms, as it should be. ;)
1WW
:'(
well this can't be good...
http://www.maurobiglino.com/
Notice:
The official website of Mauro Biglino has been taken down, since his Italian publishing house - named Uno Editori - has not paid bills for an amount of Euro 139,480
(US$ 182,000).
Uno Editori has not paid the bills for our work in Marketing Strategy & Communications in the US and in the International Markets, nor for the website concept and implementation, nor for the translation services, nor for the written contents, nor for the commercial use of the website.
We apologize for the unconvenience, but bills have to be paid.
Besides, Uno Editori committed several other violations, including breach of contract and copyright infringements, resulting in damages in excess of US$ 28 million.
As a result, our law firm is filing a series of lawsuits against Uno Editori, both in Italy, both in the USA, to recover the amounts due and the damages which derived from their breach of contract and the other violations.
Who is Uno Editori?
Uno Editori is supposed to be the Italian publishing house of Mauro Biglino.
Therefore, Uno Editori should be a registered publishing company in Italy.
It isn't.
Uno Editori is just a trade name. It is not even registered as a trade mark.
Uno Editori is a trade name used in Italy by a firm.
The name of the firm is "Infinity Service".
And it is this company named "Infinity Service" who owns the 100% of the copyright and publication rights of the first two books of Mauro Biglino.
But who is Infinity Service?
Infinity Service is a one person firm, with zero employees.
In other words, Infinity Service is a "one man band".
Its owner and only person officially working in Infinity Service is named Monica Farinella.
And Infinity Service is a firm having zero capital and zero assets, not even a car is owned by this firm.
This information comes directly from the Chamber of Commerce of Torino (Turin) - Italy, where the one person firm named "Infinity Service" is registered.
Everyone can make an official request to the Chamber of Commerce of Torino,
and will get the same information.
An individual - who introduces himself as "Prabhat Eusebio" - is signing all the main correspondence for "Uno Editori".
No such individual exists.
Prabhat Eusebio is unknown and not-existing for the Italian registry office.
Infact, the real name of this individual is "Giancarlo Eusebio" and he acts as the "director" of "Uno Editori".
But, as we write above, no such company named "Uno Editori" exists, and no individual named "Prabhat Eusebio" exists.
And, according to the Chamber of Commerce of Torino, this individual named "Giancarlo Eusebio" officially is not an employee, nor a director, of the zero assets firm named "Infinity Service".
Thus, he acts abusively.
Now, we should ask ourselves:
1.- Why Uno Editori presents itself as "The publishing company of Mauro Biglino" - where no such company exists?
2.- Why Mr. Giancarlo Eusebio does not present himself with his true name?
What are these people trying to hide?
Some problems with the Italian Justice?
Some previous bankruptcy issues?
What is certain is that the company named "Infinity Service" ("Uno Editori") has the bad habit of requesting services and not paying the bills, and has the bad habit of signing contracts and not honouring the terms of contract.
Besides, Infinity Service has even infringed copyright and Intellectual Property rights.
"Infinity Service" ("Uno Editori") is mostly publishing trashy "new age" books,
selling dolls and assorted gifts and gadgets,
thus not giving a favourable impression of a reputable publishing house,
as can be ascertained from their website - www.unoeditori.com - of which we published (below) 4 screenshots, taken in August 2013.
Uno Editori website - www.unoeditori.com - the home page
Well Sky, not really what I was hoping for by way of this new book being released for sure.. :-\
Zorgon , a few weeks ago had released the info on how the Vatican was passing laws that would make it basically illegal for such thing's 'Child Molestation incidences' would be illegal to report with a hefty 2 year jail sentence attached to the new laws. ???
Now, I am totally aware that Biglino was hired by the Vatican as writer and translator of written ancient texts, or something like that, he was relieved of his duties because of his finding's for his new book with Jim Marrs shortly after they had found out what it all entailed as far as Scripture interpretation and the Ancient Alien connection's, not too mention that some of the investments that the Vatican was making were for some very 'Shady' people with some very incriminating Cronies.
I just found this timing rather 'Convenient' and 'Odd' for all this too happen. ???
I guess what I am getting to is "Wouldn't it be something if this was one of the alleged investments the Vatican was backing?" namely "Uno Editori" ?
I guess we will have to wait and see now what becomes of all this, very sickening to think that the Vatican would go to such lengths (If they were a part of this) and even more proof of how the Vatican is more than likely the biggest Financial laundering scam in human history playing their cards just like a Mafia Don would to get certain people out of the picture.
Thanks for sharing Sky, I will be doing a bit more research on these folks and see if there is a common denominator with them and the Vatican. At this point, it all fits much too nicely, but will have to wait and see.
1WW
yeah well it seems to get worse..maybe the radio guys know something more
from the looks of this the book won't be in english anytime soon
sigh :(
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