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Paranormal Studies => Cryptozoology - Bigfoot, Monsters and other Critters => Topic started by: Caver78 on December 03, 2011, 08:11:09 PM

Title: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on December 03, 2011, 08:11:09 PM
This is currently just some questions that have arisen from repeated independent incidents of BF-human contact. Given the anodotal reports there seems to be enough evidence of Bigfoot having it's own agenda. While never talked about in public, it is indeed discussed by everyday people who have had repeated sightings.

My search began when I reckoned no phenomina occurs without a reason. Finding the science behind it has been difficult.
This year due to other posts by various members on multiple unrelated forums things began falling into place. First came the interesting  but old study from Alan Frey.

http://www.raven1.net/frey.htm

In my mind BF being telepathic was a misnomer, however this indeed could be possible. I theorize that BF uses Low Hertz in zapping people, so can easily use it to communicate. People have reported hearing BF quite clearly yet can't explain it other than it must be telepathy. I don't think so.

Next up is this study.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0027029

No one knows the biology of BF but given their size, the difference in how their head sits on their spinal column this could also be likely. A different larynx than ours may indeed make low hertz vocalizations within their range.This is evidenced in recordings where the recording suddenly stops, yet BF is still vocalizing. Just out of the range of human hearing.
People are just now adapting their equiptment to record this. To date some recordings use the fact low hertz IS recorded to verify it couldn't be any other animal or human.

Next up came my running into the Untersberg Thread over on ATS. The effects of a EM field on humans. Specifically the release of DMT in the human Pineal Gland. While BF disappearing in plain sight leads to laughter in Bigfootery at large, or speculation to it's woodcraft skills, alternately it's quite possible all ''zappings'' aren't intended to disable us. It can be employed to disorient us while it wanders off. This backs up an assertion a friend made who noticed a BF has to have a ''line of sight''
on a witness for odd stuff to happen.

Now all this is very preliminary, but I am working to find the science behind woo-woo reports of BF abilities. Trying to fit the applicable science to fit witness observations. Yes...the ''third-rail'' of bigfooting. Grin.

Where in evidence is an AGENDA demonstrated by BF? This is where things get murkier. Many folks have had instances where BF communicated with them. No, you won't ever see it in official reports on the internet. However this gentleman hauled it into the mainstream.

http://www.unlimited-resources.com/bigfoot.html

Unfortunately I don't agree with him having experienced the opposite and BF's aversion to UFO's and ET's. The people who have had BF communication are seeing a split within BF culture itself on this issue. It's looking like some BF are good little peons and work with ET's and some work against them.

--The underground ''machine'' noises the BF say are not only real, but they have a great fear of this tech.
.....are they lying? Hell if we know.

--BF say they use portals, but they don't have the range many suppose, 300 miles was the range more or less given.
......again, are they lying? nobody knows.

-- Part of the BF split is that some people swallow hook, line, sinker BF is here for our good. Without looking at BF using human biology against them to push a love and light agenda. Very suspicious. altho unproveable also.

Is it all this in reality happening? Yes it is. It's concerning in that it truely is the third rail of bigfootery and given the assertions it's easy to see why. You either sound delusional, or you accept that a certain level of oddity exhists. I posted this to explore the possibility that the witnesses indeed aren't delusional, but need some help to validate their experiences, and to bring it to an audience who might be interested.
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: hobbit on December 03, 2011, 10:15:27 PM
Howdo, a hobbit here.
I come from the shires.
I would recommend
Electrogravitics.
Fibonacci.
Solid universe.
Geometry.

Think of a solid universe, and all that exists in such is merely memory, and that memory has geometry, then consider the memory field as been relative to the overall memory field that it is created in, in our case Earths memory field.
Consider that the solid universe is crystaline in structure , and that it's very very fine structure creates geometric pathways , and that the normal condition on this planet here and now creates a field at all scales that fits into a specific sequence of grometric pathways in the crystaline structure, lets say 55/34 sequence( fibonacci)
Consider though that the very very fine structure of the crystal enables lots of different sequences to occur in the self same local without each sequence having any comprehension of the other , even though they are in exactly the self same local.
But consider if anyone or anything had the ability to TRIP( DMT) acroos these sequences to be in the memory sequence alternative to where their normal sequence is?

The difficult hurdle to overcome is ridding Yourself of the notion that YOU are seperate, when in reality You are nothing more than a local specific sequenced memory, and all Your so called movements are actually SWITCHINGS in the normal memory field You were creatd within.
But consider that a TRIP is possible across to the different sequences, like degrees on a masonic ladder.
Said the,
hobbit
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on December 04, 2011, 01:38:39 AM
If I follow you, and I do barely...lol....it's just a DMT induced vision of what is/was.
If you knew how happy I'd be if that was true!

Unfortunately there are real events going on, with physical proof. If it was all attributable to the EMF daze I'd of never posted. Mostly cause I could care less what happens in other realities...this one is enough work! ;)

Now I guess I ought to be a good little camper and link some of the odder BF reports.  :)

http://www.sunstar-solutions.com/BFvanishing.htm#BFdematerializing

Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 04, 2011, 02:17:53 AM
Here is a video (albeit fuzzy) of a Bigfoot witnessed by Bobby Clarke while on board a ferry crossing the Nelson River about 40 kilometers north of Norway House, Manitoba.

QuoteWhile at work 6:30 Saturday morning, he noticed a black figure walking along the opposite river's edge about 250 metres away.

He grabbed his camera — something he is rarely without — and started shooting.

What he captured, according to his sister, Sharness Henry, is the image of a massive creature that stands eight, nine, maybe 10 feet (three meters) tall, walking along the edge of the water through some bulrushes. Near the end of the video, the creature turns and appears to stare into the camera, but the details of its face are impossible to make out
.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQxlwzWOXFE


Second Bigfoot Sighting In Norway House, Manitoba: Nervous Residents Seek Answers, Offer Photos of Evidence

Quote
A second bigfoot sighting has been reported by a young girl, and her play mates in Paupanekis Point, Norway House, Manitoba, which is located on the south end of the same First Nations reserve where ferryman, Bobby Clarke, videotaped a large, dark, bipedal creature walking along the bank of the Nelsen River.

The girls were close to a residential area, which borders the woods, at around 7:30-8:00 pm on May 20, when the encounter occurred. The woods are bordered by knee high grass, which is where the creature was standing in plain view, apparently watching the children play. One of the girls fainted from fright, after seeing "a huge creature." None of the children were hurt, but they are understandably still quite shaken, and afraid to be left alone.

Immediately following the sighting, a search party was assembled to investigate the surrounding area. Footprints were found where the actual sighting occurred, as well as deeper into the woods. Several more expeditions have been conducted since, and have resulted in finding more physical evidence. The size of some of the tracks measure "larger than a man`s size 16 shoe" said one witness, and  have a clearly defined outline of the toes. The tracks have been preserved, photographed, and videotaped by Norway House residents.

Hair samples have also been found at several locations, including on the inside edge of one of the footprints, and at another location, clinging to a pine tree where more tracks, and a strong lingering odor was also reported. The odor was described to be a mix between wet dog, and skunk. A witness who has collected some of the hair samples reported, "I thought they would be thick and course and black, but they look kinda longish, half black and half white and (on some) the very bottom looks almost fine and spliced up like a fine razor split the hairs into many on one single strand."

The physical evidence collected following the most recent sighting raises some interesting questions. Where as the Nelson River tracks measured 20 inches in length, with a six foot stride, in Paupanekis Point, tracks measuring 13 inches in length, as well as 20 inches have been found. Also, hair samples given to the ACA`s expedition team were dark in color, according to Cherie Curry, a member of the team, yet the hair samples found after the second sighting are half black, and half white.

Some N.H. residents have theorized that the smaller prints may belong to a juvenile, and that it has possibly wandered away from an adult/parent, which might explain the ongoing incidents surrounding Norway House, including the frequent howls coming from wooded areas close to homes. Bobby Clarke also reported hearing strange howls on several occasions preceding his sighting.

Although details are still sketchy, a third encounter in which the creature is said to have returned to the same area as the second sighting, moving large rocks in it`s path has been reported.


http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/second-bigfoot-sighting-in-norway-house/ (http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/second-bigfoot-sighting-in-norway-house/)

Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on December 04, 2011, 05:46:05 PM
Ellirium113 Thanks for the reply :)
I probably didn't lay the info out very well. No suprise, but will attempt to do better. Generally the crowd found in Bigfootery are chasing physical evidence. Or the very typical self-appointed de-bunkers.
However there is a third group who have seen them, don't need physical proof because, well they experienced one live and in person but are looking for answers. I fall into that catagory.

Bigfoot behavior regionally is very different, but not all of it is due to habitat. That was the original starting point. The ones north of the Virginia display predictable patterns
when encountering humans. South of that they seem to have figured out that humans don't pay any attention to them running around. So they've gotten bolder.

We were trying to figure if there are that many more juveniles down south or if they had in a way broken with traditional behavior and why?

Yes it's just a given they have their own culture and society.

So when people who have them semi-regularly in their areas began cautiously describing oddities. I began looking for the science behind it.

Then the differences really began to stand out. The UFO sightings in BF areas, the absence of BF when this occurs. The unexplained humming or machine noise, and lately the sonic booms.

I saw somewhere on the 'net the booming can be contrail related, the particles in the air, but in several instances the booming was heard just prior to BF moving thru an area. Which leads you into the arena of portals and BF.

Taken as a whole it's a huge mess of weird. Broken down into bits and pieces it's a little more manageable but still all-day weird. Throw in that it's likely not all BF have the same skill-sets so not everyone is going to experience the same levels of BF intelligence or physic's bending effects.

So fully half of the witnesses sound deranged and the other half oblivious. Truely the govt couldn't have pulled this off better. This is why it's looking like the Bigfoot themselves have their own agenda.
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 05, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
QuoteBigfoot behavior regionally is very different, but not all of it is due to habitat. That was the original starting point. The ones north of the Virginia display predictable patterns
when encountering humans. South of that they seem to have figured out that humans don't pay any attention to them running around. So they've gotten bolder.

We were trying to figure if there are that many more juveniles down south or if they had in a way broken with traditional behavior and why?

Yes it's just a given they have their own culture and society.

I wouldn't think we're dealing with the same species from region to region. I would suspect there are several species all with their own ways about them...not to mention individual pesonalities. Judging by the diversity of wildlife accross the continent it would make sense.
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on December 06, 2011, 01:24:19 AM
I agree but apparently am suffering from foot-in-mouth disease.   ;D
Last word was there are 5 different types/variants. Even knowing this and that each kind more than likely has it's own social construct, the behaviors being brought to light are unusual.

Not to leave anyone hanging but I'm working out how to provide links to material and not break confidentiality. Sigh......
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: starwarp2000 on December 06, 2011, 01:33:31 PM
They are called Yowie's here, or Dooligahl, Aboriginal for 'Big Hairy Man'. They definitely have some sort of psychic sense and from my experience with one they can activate the chakras of a witness, so I would believe that they have some sort of ESP too  :)
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on December 14, 2011, 02:05:55 AM
I've been thinking it's less ESP and more EMF...but glad to see someone from AU weigh in!
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: starwarp2000 on December 15, 2011, 01:35:21 AM
Quote from: Caver78 on December 14, 2011, 02:05:55 AM
I've been thinking it's less ESP and more EMF...but glad to see someone from AU weigh in!

Interesting Caver.

EMF? Could you extrapolate your reasoning in this regard?

If you weighed AU it would break the scales LOL  :P
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on December 15, 2011, 08:43:55 PM
Sure, like in the OP BF seem to be telepathic but could easily be using EMF, if their vocal chords were constructed differently than ours, and they'd almost have to be for the reports to be accurate. Reports of decibel strength and carrying distances in human hearing range anyways.

I'm getting info that recorded audio seems to just cut off, but under further scrutiny the vocals didn't just stop but switched into very low hertz ranges. Couple this with humans reactions and DMT release in the brain due to exposure to low EMF fields, naturally produced or otherwise and it looks like a pattern emerges.

In reading some of the material here this struck me.....it was posted in a unrelated thread here on the forum.
The Key To Gravity-Control Systems
No naturally occurring atoms on earth have enough protons and neutrons for the cumulative gravity A wave to extend past the perimeter of the atom so you can access it. Now even though the distance that the gravity A wave extends past the perimeter of the atom is infinitesimal, it is accessible and it has amplitude, wave length, and frequency, just like any other wave in the electromagnetic spectrum. Once you can access the gravity A wave, you can amplify it just like we amplify other electromagnetic waves.

now should BF be able to do this in a limited way biologically it opens up all kinds of avenues. Much like the gravatational back engineering  EMF fields come heavyily into play around Bigfoot.

,,,,and yes it is lonely out on this branch flailing around.  ;D
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on July 22, 2012, 04:39:40 PM
My apologies for being absent from my thread!  ;)

Things have progressed in the time I was AWOL.

Some things we have determined that support Bigfoot as a ''people'' having their own agenda.

1] Most contactee's are approached as children. Initial contact at the age of 2yrs. - 4yrs. Follow up contact by the age of 7-9yrs. of age.

In discussing this with a host of contactee's from across North America we're thinking that the infrasonics is gradually used to affect us on a genetic level to facilitate ongoing contact. This would be necessary as repeated exposure to their routine communications has wide ranging negative health consequences in humans who haven't been altered.

2] Contactee's are used for recon.

Once repeat contact has been established contactee's are used for Bigfoot's ''window on the human world''. Like us watching them one thing that is ultimately needed is ''context'' for what is observed. Personal contact facilitates this as they glean from us the meanings of what they are observing. That said it would appear this is done as a survival mechanism since BF live in the gaps surrounding human society.

3] Lately it's been observed more and more researchers are being followed home by BF and this while hilarious for contactee's has been quite frightening to researchers who were just looking for physical proof. It's one thing to set out camera traps and bait, it's quit another to have your personal space and family's violated by a relic hominid on a daily basis.

4] MABRC has been responsible for catching and radio collaring several of the lesser types of BF in the southern USA. While initially suprising, the first question we asked is....who benefits from this?
It would seem as the BF compete for resourses the larger more intelligent type benefit from their competition being captured and harassed.  :)


Superficially humans as adults who are contactee's are now showing health effects of unusual cancers with no prior family history in their past. As this takes time to develop it's only recently as contactee's come together in discussion that it's come to light.

One supposition being tossed around is the connection of BF's fondness for liver [ high iron content], magnetic fields and the biological effects of infrasound. This came about by hypothisizing about the difference in Bigfoot's ''tool-kit'' as opposed to homo sapiens development. Darpa recently publicized their findings that infrasound can put out fires.....LOL.....infrasound or infrasonics is capable of quite a range of uses, hense it is a legit ''tool-kit'' and one we aren't looking at.

[Study of remanent magnetization of t... [Nihon Eiseigaku Zasshi. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

Nihon Eiseigaku Zasshi. 2001 Jul;56(2):523-7.
[Study of remanent magnetization of the human body: lung and liver tissues].
[Article in Japanese]
Sakai H, Wang H, Murai Y, Soukejima S, Kagamimori S.
Source
Department of Earth Sciences, Faculty of Science, Toyama University, Gofuku 3190, Toyama 930-8555, Japan.
Abstract
In this study, we used lung and liver tissue specimens distracted from tissue to investigate remanant magnetization, and found that specimens with a volume of 6 mm3 had an intensity of 10(-10) Am2, which was significantly stronger than the noise level of the superconducting magnetometer. This finding indicates that both lung and liver tissues contain magnetic materials. We speculated that biological magnetite is the magnetic material in these tissues. In addition, we found that lung tissue specimens with strong magnetization had correspondingly strong magnetized findings in the liver tissue specimens. In a comparison of magnetization in lung cancer tissue specimens and normal lung tissue, no significant relationship was noted, but two of the lung cancer tissue specimens showed strong magnetization. The number of lung cancer specimens studies was insufficient to investigate the relation between the magnetization (accumulation of magnetic materials) and lung cancer, and further studies are necessary. The magnetic properties of two lung cancer tissue specimens showing strong magnetization were further investigated, and an alternating field demagnetization experiment showed that their magnetization was composed of a unit stable vector, which indicates that the lung tissue may have been magnetized after the accumulation of magnetic materials. The Wohlfarth ratio (Moskowitz et al., 1989) of them was less than 0.5, which suggests that magnetic materials are distributed in clusters in lung tissue.
PMID: 11519186 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Publication Types, MeSH Terms, Substances

Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: COSMO on July 22, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
Hi Carver!
I just love cryptozoology!  Amid all the other discussion here about science, spirituality, metaphysics and more, the field of cryptozoology surely must have a space!  There are currently 2 dna projects going on in bigfootery, have you heard of them, ready anything about them???
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on July 22, 2012, 05:46:14 PM
Thanks for your interest Cosmo!

I have heard lots about them....grin. Dr. Ketchum's study is taking longer than anticipated for reason's unknown, altho it still very much looks legit despite all the gossip to the contrary.

the newer Bryan Sykes/ Oxford study is going to be problematic as altho he seems to be an excellent genetics guy his methods in sample selection are at issue. The wall street journal recently had an article in regards to this.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303703004577476694090204480.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

There were also multiple problems in the study called ''blood of the vikings'' he undertook for the BBC.

One thing not readily advertised was in the original Neanderthal DNA testing the primers were re-selected to define them as a seperate species, which disregarded the original findings back in the day they were also modern humans...if I understood the article in ''cell' journal correctly.  :)

So in essense a DNA study can be rigged to support by picking and chosing primers or not digging deep enough into halo-types and subclaves to either prove or disprove predetermined hypotheses while perfectly repeatable good science was used in the process.

Confusing I know, but also very disheartening.
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: COSMO on August 14, 2012, 05:43:13 AM
Here you go Carver!

The lie detector test results of the person that claimed to have killed 2 bigfoot:

There are two types of results. The first one can contains the questions and the results. The second results contains a 7-point scale adjacent comparison tracing that includes Justin's respiration, electrodermal, and cardio. Both results indicates "NO DECEPTION".

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/08/justin-smejas-official-polygraph.html#moretop

DNA from this kill are in the Ketchum DNA Project.  We may soon have scientific proof of their existence.  That might keep a few people out of the forests!  lol
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: Caver78 on August 24, 2012, 08:39:56 PM
Thanks Cosmo!

That's a website I'm aware of.  ;D

Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: sky otter on April 26, 2013, 04:52:55 PM


ok.
i have been recently prodded into this direction
so caver, i have some questions that i hope you will respond to, especially since the thread is titled
the bigfoot agenda

just what is their agenda?
to me that gives an entirely different way of thinking of them..imo

i have only thought of them in vague terms as some species left over from times gone by
and their only agenda was trying to avoid humans
i have read the Ra stuff where they talk of three different types
(can find the link if anyone hasn't read it themselves)
and joked about the tv series finding bigfoot with those goofs
walking around pounding on trees and hiking in the dark with their green lights  ;D
i have never actually talked with anyone claiming more than a sighting

sooooooooooo


you say you have first hand experience..would you care to elaborate?

you say that contactees are used for recon
recon of what?...the next housing development?
the best organic gardeners?
highways to be put into forrests?

you mention emf's.. do the power lines and cell towers hurt their ears?..do they even have ears?
you say they have their own culture and societies..???  really?
this doesn't sounds like my granddad's bf..

i do not mean to be insulting in any way..but you are reading from a greenie in this area..
so please don't take offense at some of my questions.. as i am not up to speed  in what to ask
so i'm going by some basic things i would like to know..

i'll wait to see if you get back to me before plunging into the long list of 'what about's

8)

Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: sky otter on May 06, 2013, 03:47:25 PM



hey Z

waiting for your thread...just a little note for remembering
Title: Re: The Bigfoot Agenda
Post by: robomont on May 06, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
i  thought bf was a man.
i thought we were human.

hu standing for enlightened.
enlightened man.

that explains the bible in genesis .god made man then he made adam.
most organized religion doesnt want to accept that god makes mistakes.god almost killed the israelites until moses convinced him not to.
im not a religious nut but i use to be one.just using the bible as a reference.