or is this just another hah-hah smoke and mirrors.?
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.Citizen Hearing On Disclosure: UFO Believers To Testify At Congressional-Style Hearings (LIVE UPDATES)
Posted: 04/29/2013 6:58 am EDT | Updated: 04/29/2013 6:13 pm EDT
Is the federal government honest about what it knows about UFOs? Are officials suppressing the truth about extraterrestrial visitations?
The federal hearings UFO researchers have been demanding have not yet materialized. But some of the testimony that would be posed at those proceedings will be posed this week to former members of Congress.
At the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., a Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) will unfold between April 29 to May 3. For 30 hours, 40 international researchers and military/agency witnesses will testify in front of these committee members:
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•Former Senator Mike Gravel (Dem/Lib, AK)
•Former Congresswoman Carolyn Kilpatrick (Dem, MI)
•Former Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey (Dem, CA)
•Former Congresswoman Darlene Hooley (Dem, OR)
•Former Congressman Roscoe Bartlett (Rep, MD)
•Former Congressman Merrill Cook (Rep, UT)
Watch some of the CHD witnesses here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__exT77Zq0
"I don't think ET is the best word for it. I think it's more unidentifiable foreign substances or vehicles in the air -- it's unidentified," Gravel told HuffPost. "I don't know if it's little green men or purple men or if it's any men. All I know is that, worldwide, there's thousands and thousands of sightings. Some of them may be hallucinatory, but under close examination, there are real sightings. There's something that we don't know of."
Gravel, a former Special Agent in the Counter Intelligence Corps, who once insisted from the floor of the Senate that his constituents had a right to know the truth behind the Vietnam War, feels the same way about the public knowing the facts about UFOs.
"Having been opposed and fighting, all of my public career, the military industrial complex and the fact that we have excessive secrecy, just does a disservice to the people when you have the military that feels this stuff has got to be secret and they won't open their files."
One of Gravel's CHD committee colleagues, Kilpatrick, told HuffPost she doesn't like the fact that "this country makes jokes about (UFOs), but in other countries, it's a spiritual kind of thing, so I'm really looking forward to seeing exactly what it is.
"As a member of the Appropriations Committee and Armed Service Committee and serving on the Air Force Academy Board, I always had an interest [in UFOs]. I think if there's something there that we need to discuss, then we ought to be part of that discussion.
"I want to hear the factual information and I'm taking it very seriously. I don't want to be ambivalent. I don't want it to be a joke. It's too serious. If we bury our heads in the sand and say there's nothing there, we lose, our country loses. I want to hear the expert testimony and be convinced that something's there. I'm willing to take it where it leads, and if it'll help our country and the people of America be better world citizens, and if my appropriations experience can help, I'm willing to do that."
Both Gravel and Kilpatrick say they think it's time for a real congressional investigation into UFOs and the possibility that Earth is being visited by someone from very far away. They'd also like to see this issue brought up again at the United Nations.
"I can say that we don't have to wait for the hearings to do that," said Gravel. "Whether or not Congress wants to do it, I think that it's global in nature and I would like to divorce it from the Congress of the U.S. I think that there should be a part of the U.N. devoted to this. I would sign a document like that right now."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtE7GTxtLCc
The international spokesperson for the weeklong CHD is Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who believes that Earth has been and may still be visited by extraterrestrials.
"I can't say where they're from, but the evidence of their presence here is pretty overwhelming -- IF you care to look for it. My only guess as to why there's this embargo is because there are money people involved, doing their (hardest) to keep it quiet because of the profit potential that goes with having the capability and the technology that could go outside of our solar system," Mitchell told HuffPost.
Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon, is hoping this week's CHD will help close the door on the alleged truth embargo that surrounds the UFO-ET issue.
"[We need to] spread a little bit more truth about the type of universe we live in and the fact that we're not alone in the universe. We've got many, many mysteries on our hands, and mysteries to solve. We really don't know the scope of our existence and our picture of the universe is still pretty primitive."
CHD organizer and political activist Stephen Bassett wants this event to primarily reach the mainstream media and Congress.
"The message to Congress is it's time to investigate this issue again and it's time for the media to realize this is the greatest news story of all time. I believe we have a definite, measurable chance of achieving, sometime this year, the president of the United States going before the American people and finally acknowledging that the phenomena we have been experiencing for at least the last 65 years is, in fact, being generated by an extraterrestrial non-human intelligence engaging the planet Earth."
Not gonna happen......give up already.
This Dark World of Sin has rules...International Criminal Law...Human Rights Courts.
Can you imagine what would happen if all the Businasty came out....Decades of research and experimentation on an unsuspecting and ill-informed public....the Crimes against Humanity committed under the auspices of Military Industrial Research....Cloaked in the guise of Aliens and UFO's.
Too many Dark Secrets and Horror stories......as G.H.W.Bush once said..."If the public ever find out what we have done...they will lynch us..."
C...
Quote from: Cosmic4life on April 30, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
Not gonna happen......give up already.
This Dark World of Sin has rules...International Criminal Law...Human Rights Courts.
Can you imagine what would happen if all the Businasty came out....Decades of research and experimentation on an unsuspecting and ill-informed public....the Crimes against Humanity committed under the auspices of Military Industrial Research....Cloaked in the guise of Aliens and UFO's.
Too many Dark Secrets and Horror stories......as G.H.W.Bush once said..."If the public ever find out what we have done...they will lynch us..."
C...
The possibility exists that you are spot on, my dear comrade; disclosure of what might possibly be the truth behind all the lies would lead to total anarchy...
Not gonna happen......
i do agree with you.. but gotta give some cred to these folks who keep on trying
i don't think they are looking at the side that you have stated
only the reveal we aren't alone side
Quote from: Cosmic4life on April 30, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
Not gonna happen......give up already.
Disclosure is inevitable!
No matter how hard you or your governments try to hide the truth, it will come out, sooner or later. Murphy's law dictates sooner!
Seriously, even IF you were to kill your space programs, all radio transissions, etc. it is far too late. You are known of, and sooner or later ET will show up on YOUR doorstep. There really is no possible way to avoid it.
Disclosure frm the government? Yeah, you'll get that too.
And Bush was wrong! Most of the BS piled on the public over ET and UFO's was done by people no longer living, so it's kind of like the contamination of the Terrestrial gene pool by the Sirians 5000 years ago ... no one left to prosecute, so get over it.
The people of Earth really can have the disclosure they want anytime they want, You do have the power to "force" government if you want, But, you have to want.
Got to ask, a lot of large countries have opened their books And what happened? Nick Poe is famous! Greer makes a movie! Stan sells another book?
TPTB or Black Opps groups "if" they have this knowledge will never release it untill they suck every single penny out of us for oil. When it's gone,,, maybe, they will use the information in hand to set up the next level of proffits. They are not stupid, we are. When every single thing is dribbled out to year at a time and they have made every penny they could, then maybe it will happen. By that time we will be just a memory.
Grass level is the only way to beat this and many people have died to prove it. Now most are afraid of the big axe and just move along...If ET is here, then, they don't care about us, just the zoo deal or they have made deals with people. With millions of people going missing every year and trillions spent on black opps, your guess is as good as mine....
Disclosure will never happen.
Secrets must remain secrets and to reveal all would destroy the fabric of reality which simply is lies and deception.
Humans don't want the truth because truth pulls back the comforting illusion you're free and that allusively profound but dark truth would be to horrible to face, if truly found.
Some of us know bits and pieces of true reality as we drop the puzzle together for a snap shop of what maybe behind the curtain. Since reality is based upon lies and deception it has a dynamic substance to it where things make sense when they shouldn't.
Quote from: deuem on April 30, 2013, 04:44:46 PM
Got to ask, a lot of large countries have opened their books And what happened? Nick Poe is famous! Greer makes a movie! Stan sells another book?
TPTB or Black Opps groups "if" they have this knowledge will never release it untill they suck every single penny out of us for oil. When it's gone,,, maybe, they will use the information in hand to set up the next level of proffits. They are not stupid, we are. When every single thing is dribbled out to year at a time and they have made every penny they could, then maybe it will happen. By that time we will be just a memory.
Grass level is the only way to beat this and many people have died to prove it. Now most are afraid of the big axe and just move along...If ET is here, then, they don't care about us, just the zoo deal or they have made deals with people. With millions of people going missing every year and trillions spent on black opps, your guess is as good as mine....
I'm sorry man, this technology won't let e disagree any stronger.
IF TPTB do think as you say; then they ARE
STUPID! if they continue to "suck you dry" then they will be left holding an empty bag eventually. They will have consumed everything the Earth and her People have, there will be nothing left. Then what?!???
All that will be left to these "Terrestrial Overloards" is "ATS" and we know how empty that is. Seriously though, what you describe is very poor management, and ultimately self-defeating. These PTB will end up fighting with each other over the scraps, just before they die themselves.
So, I thinkthat IF they truly "are not stupid", they will make a controlled disclosure happen . . . NOW.
You say that IF ET is here then he doesn't care about you. Absolutely true, we don't care about species who don't have it together enough to care about themselves. If you truly did care, you would do something, your world would be rather different. I see many things in your world, the worst is the lack of caring.
Funny old word Disclosure....
It could mean:
- "The majority of us are really trying to protect the Village" without causing calamity.
- "The majority of us are really trying to protect the Village" whilst causing Calamity.
- "The majority of us are really trying to protect the Village" whilst being in on the Calamity.
- "The majority of us are really trying to protect the Village" but we are Alien's and are faking our reason to protect so we can Maul You
- "The majority of us are really trying to protect the Village"
I love this quote and stand by it as a rare truth.
QuoteIf you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis
I so wanna slap that into my sig but I know someone will complain cause they had to think about that.
Let me play Devil's Advocate here, in regard to some things I've observed recently:
First, are we making the mistake of demonizing the opponents of disclosure? Of lumping them all together?
Is Greer correct when he asserts that there is a division within MJ-12 (or equivalent)? Are they really monolithic in maintaining this secret? In regard to Communism past, did 'experts' make the same mistake, of a monolithic view of adversaries?
I know that Laurence Rockefeller has been an advocate of disclosure for some time. He was photographed conversing with Hillary Clinton, holding a book on the effects of disclosure on society. At the Ram Dass library, the UFO books there were donated by him.
Is there an emerging opinion among the elite that our civilization has stalled and has waited too long already? That the Brooking's Report is very outdated and another Great Depression is at hand?
Secondly, are we observing a remarkable explosion of exposure, worldwide? 9/11, Boston, Iraq war, the TBTF Banks, false flag events, etc. ? Is the era of great secrets coming to an end?
Quote from: Anthra on April 30, 2013, 06:03:45 PM
if they continue to "suck you dry" then they will be left holding an empty bag eventually. They will have consumed everything the Earth and her People have, there will be nothing left. Then what?!???
They don't think about that, or care about it. That's a big part of what the word, "psychopath," means in this context.
More fundamentally though Anthra, this situation has a spiritual component to it, as far as I am concerned. The people we're talking about here are planet wreckers, in reincarnational terms. I don't believe Earth is the first planet they've done this to. They go from one planet to the next, running each one into the ground for kicks. They're basically the acorporeal equivalent of vicious, sociopathic teenagers who get off on ruining things for everyone else.
The way they serve the larger system is by providing developmental catalyst for the rest of us; we grow during the conflict of stopping them. We're
meant to stop them, however. If we don't, Earth is going to get destroyed, or at least rendered incapable of supporting life; just as Atlantis was on a more local level, and as other planets both have been and will be.
QuoteAll that will be left to these "Terrestrial Overloards" is "ATS" and we know how empty that is. Seriously though, what you describe is very poor management, and ultimately self-defeating. These PTB will end up fighting with each other over the scraps, just before they die themselves.
That's exactly what they are doing; and once they've finished, they will go somewhere else. Lather, rinse, repeat. Because again, we're talking about something acorporeal, they generally don't know this consciously; but they do unconsciously. They don't give a crap about the survival of anyone here. This planet can burn, as long as they have their fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc
QuoteYou say that IF ET is here then he doesn't care about you. Absolutely true, we don't care about species who don't have it together enough to care about themselves. If you truly did care, you would do something, your world would be rather different. I see many things in your world, the worst is the lack of caring.
Some of you care enough to keep watching; even if only because some of your own loved ones are on this rock at the moment. If I told you how I knew that, some here would think I am schizophrenic, but there are times when said schizophrenic ideas have literally saved my life, so I tend to be a bit more open minded.
Again, reincarnationally speaking, not everyone on this planet right now is an Earth native; in fact, probably only about 60% of the population are.
Said 60% are, for the most part, basically neutral; they don't really care what happens. It's the other 40% who are engaged in conflict, on both sides.
A Law Federal Law Mandating Full Disclosure
I have a suggestion for Congressional action. Is there any reason that Congress couldn't pass legislation that in essence, made it against the law, with very stiff penalties, for any elected person of the Federal Government, for any employee of the Federal Government, to including all of it agencies, and for any representative of the Federal Government, at any level, including contractors, to withhold any information regarding the existence of alien lifeforms, alien technology, alien presence, UFO's, and etc. This law would apply to any discoveries of the such like in/on Planet Earth, and all such like discoveries extraterrestrial.
There would be no person exempted from this law, and this law would apply to as far back as necessary, with a provision for an allowable period of full and open disclosure, from all with prior official knowledge of such for any reason. When the allowable period for full disclosure has passed, then the law will be in full force for anyone found to be withholding for any reason.
Obviously, if there are no "aliens such like", then there would be absolutely no reason to fight this law. If there is strong resistance against it, then the first step toward disclosure has been made!
Those are just general words of the thoughts for any such law.
Is there any reason this cannot be done, other than some being laughed at??
and so goes day two
Citizen Hearing On Disclosure Day 2: England Has Close Encounter, UFOs Tamper With Nuclear Sites
Posted: 04/30/2013 10:40 am EDT | Updated: 04/30/2013 6:39 pm EDT
As day two begins at the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) in Washington, D.C., the focus on the subject of UFOs turns to the famous multi-witness encounter that took place in 1980 at the dual air base RAF Woodbridge and Bentwaters in England.
In addition to the England case, today's testimony will feature military personnel describing cases where UFOs reportedly tampered with nuclear missiles.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/30/citizen-hearing-on-disclosure-day-2_n_3184932.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news#PHOTOS
While not an official government hearing on UFOs, the CHD is a five-day congressional-style presentation that brings 40 international researchers and military and scientific witnesses who are testifying before six former members of Congress.
On day one, discussions included the history of global UFO sightings and alleged UFO crashes, like the famous 1947 incident near Roswell, N.M.
There was also testimony of how several previous American presidents showed great interest in UFOs and, in some cases, unsuccessfully attempted to get information about specific UFO issues.
Watch this highlight video from Day 1 of the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72aWlR-bvvk
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Quote from: rdunk on May 01, 2013, 04:03:35 AM
Is there any reason this cannot be done, other than some being laughed at??
There would be ONE reason...
That they actually have nothing to disclose :P
Quote from: zorgon on May 01, 2013, 05:36:33 AM
There would be ONE reason...
That they actually have nothing to disclose :P
Very Good point there Z...
It is very much dependant on
WHO "
They" (Referred to) actually are, which is solely determined
on/by the general Publics "Expectations" I guess.
So "
THEY" (Determined by the public at large) may indeed have Nothing to disclose,
especially if they have nothing of importance in the
1st place... :)
And
IF anything was being held back by the proposed "
THEY", (Whoever "They" may be), would such benefit anyone ? :)
Perhaps the
QUESTION is more "
Productive" than the Answers ?
Quote from: rdunk on May 01, 2013, 04:03:35 AM
A Law Federal Law Mandating Full Disclosure
I have a suggestion for Congressional action.
The rhetorical question which I always ask of Americans who demand governmental disclosure of the existence of UFOs, is "Why?"
I can, however, answer this question myself; hence why it is rhetorical. It is because Americans insist on maintaining the infantile belief that their government is still a salvageable, Constitutionally bound entity, rather than what it is in fact; a systemically corrupt, mass murdering, rogue institution that is the relentless enemy of its' own people, and is exclusively populated by psychopaths.
Cease your worship of the Executive Branch in particular, Americans. It is not, and has never been, anything other than a concession to the Fuhrer principle. The American government is the scourge of humanity; the entire species (to say nothing of the other forms of life on this planet) currently groans for relief under the weight of its' monstrous tyranny, and yet you continue to behave as though it should be regarded as a vaguely legitimate authority.
You do not, and should not, therefore, require the current demoniac inhabiting the White House to publically confirm for you, that which you already know concerning extraterrestrial life. Either you yourselves know, for yourselves, that such life exists, or you do not. Exercise some sovereignty, or at the very least some basic self-respect and courage, and let that be enough for you.
There is plenty to be disclosed, just as is evidenced in the Mars photos. Besides what they have hidden, and what has been presented and debunked to death, there is still much there to be revealed, some of which has been found, but not yet even presented.
Just as the Benghazi witnesses are being told to keep their mouths shut...........................!
The American government is the scourge of humanity; the entire species (to say nothing of the other forms of life on this planet) currently groans for relief under the weight of its' monstrous tyranny, and yet you continue to behave as though it should be regarded as a vaguely legitimate authority.
Petrus, it doesn't take a Dr. to realize you are having a hard time with life. With what you say, you seem to lack any real understanding of what life is all about. The scourge of this planet is a lot of things, but a "free America" has been a blessing to a better part of it for a lot of years. That is why so many from all over the world have done everything possible to try to get here to live. And they still are!!
No, stuff like the above that you say is simply .....................(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/bsflag.gif)
The American government is the scourge of humanity; the entire species (to say nothing of the other forms of life on this planet) currently groans for relief under the weight of its' monstrous tyranny, and yet you continue to behave as though it should be regarded as a vaguely legitimate authority.
Yeah? Well how come the whole world wants our dollars to bail them out and andf our relief for disaters? How come all those dictators hoard American money ion Cayman Island accounts?
Uh huh.... problem is yawl are just JEALOIS and are all GREEN with envy while stuffing your pockets with greenbacks.
Hippd twits as Tweety would say :D
If I could have the government stop just ONE THING it would be foreign aid... Screw em all let them solve their own problems :P
As for "Disclose" THIS is wht the Aliens are really here....
(http://www.tentaclerape.net/post/view/index.php?q=/image/23596.jpg)
"Earth Girls are Easy!"
Quote from: Eighthman on April 30, 2013, 11:49:35 PM
First, are we making the mistake of demonizing the opponents of disclosure?
It depends on what their motivations are. The Stargate franchise did a fairly good job of generating audience sympathy for the idea of secrecy in the name of national security. Most of the time in that case, it was implied that containment was necessary in order to avoid alien threats from getting loose among the general population, or rogue elements stealing ET technology and otherwise causing problems.
In real life, however, the motivation would almost never be that altruistic. In the real world, secrecy is virtually never employed to genuinely benefit the public, but almost always to shield the individuals in question from legal, political, or economic accountability for their (usually illegal, or at least highly immoral) actions. The primary use of secrecy is simply to ensure a complete lack of restriction of any kind, on the part of the individuals wanting said secrecy. They are able to do literally whatever they like, if the public doesn't know anything about what they are doing at all.
Part of it is also due to the psychopathic craving for elitism; a further justification for feeling elite, is the idea of being part of some organisation that ordinary and therefore supposedly unimportant people do not know about.
QuoteIs Greer correct when he asserts that there is a division within MJ-12 (or equivalent)? Are they really monolithic in maintaining this secret?
I think it is important to keep in mind that, at least as far as I know, we have no way of knowing or proving whether or not Greer actually has any accurate or otherwise worthwhile information whatsoever. I am not saying that his information is definitely false, so much as I am saying that it is unfalsifiable; it is impossible to know either way. It can be very difficult to verify the word of a single whistleblower, if the organisation he is leaking information from, is unwilling to corroborate it, and actually wants said whistleblower dead for the very reason of leaking said information in the first place.
QuoteIn regard to Communism past, did 'experts' make the same mistake, of a monolithic view of adversaries?
Here it is important to recognise the validity of the warnings of Warner von Braun, about the steady stream of manufactured threats. America is largely a war economy, and always has been; and as such, it needs a continual source of foreign enemies and bogeymen of various kinds who it can engage in constant war with, in order to provide stimulus for the military industrial complex.
As a result of this, yes, Communism was ludicrously overblown as a threat. Threats are an economic necessity, and as a result, they will always tend to be exaggerated and hyped as much as possible, in order to encourage public support for going to war with them. That way, lots of munitions and military equipment gets built, funding gets spent on research for new weapons, and in general, the military industrial complex keeps making money.
It's an economic model that a Tyrannosaurus Rex would have been able to appreciate. The MIC are always on the lookout for their next meal.
(http://theresilientearth.com/files/images/t-rex-jpark-500.jpg)
QuoteI know that Laurence Rockefeller has been an advocate of disclosure for some time. He was photographed conversing with Hillary Clinton, holding a book on the effects of disclosure on society. At the Ram Dass library, the UFO books there were donated by him.
I would seriously question the idea that literally
anyone with the surname Rockefeller should be trusted as far as they can be thrown, personally.
QuoteIs there an emerging opinion among the elite that our civilization has stalled and has waited too long already? That the Brooking's Report is very outdated and another Great Depression is at hand?
There may be a certain number of forward thinkers among them who are able to see which way the wind is blowing, and feel a desire to get off the proverbial sinking ship; but in the case of many of them, their nature is dictated by the very things they would have needed to do in order to obtain their positions in the first place.
As a result, they are not to be trusted. Assuming hypothetically that a couple of them overwhelmingly prove themselves by assisting in bringing down the old order of things, then perhaps we could make individual exceptions; but such would need to be done with
extreme wariness.
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QuoteAs for "Disclose" THIS is wht the Aliens are really here....
LOL... Z.
Well for a Minority of Aliens anyway....
According to the Books of
E'NOCH, you may very well be
Correct Z
! Even though the Translation of this writing might
NOT be the best... Quote;
Quote02. And the angels, the children of the heavens,
saw and lusted after them, and said to one another:
"Come, let us chose us wives from among the children of men
and beget us children."
03. And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them:
"I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed,
and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin."
04. And they all answered him and said:
"Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations
not to abandon this plan but to do this thing."
05. Then sware they all together and bound themselves together
by mutual imprecations upon it.
06. And they were in all two hundred;
who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon,
and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves
by mutual imprecations upon it.
07. And these are the names of their leaders:
Semiazaz, their leader,
Arakiba,
Rameel,
Kokabiel,
Tamiel,
Ramiel,
Danel,
Ezeqeel,
Baraqijal,
Asael,
Armaros,
Batarel,
Ananel,
Zaqiel,
Samsapeel,
Satarel,
Turel,
Jomael,
Sariel.
08. These are their chiefs of tens.
Chapter 7.
01. And all the others together with them
took unto themselves wives,
and each chose for himself one,
and they began to go in unto them
and defile themselves with them,
More investigation into this subject of alleged "
Cross breeding" with the human Species,
might be worth another thread.
(I realise there is some info regarding the alleged breeding program in Pegasus)
As to a division within MJ-12, as asserted by Greer: is the simple fact that he isn't dead, proof?
Sirius broadly hints about the fact that he and his aides got a particularly malignant cancer and that only he survived.
We all know about the sign posted at the Area 51 border, "use of deadly force authorized". Obviously, 'they ain't playin'.
More than Greer, are we observing a consistent trend - with NASA finding earth-like planets, Disclosure hearings, other countries talking about UFOs more freely and so on?
FDR once said, "in politics, nothing happens by accident".
And as for the Sailor Moon waif, let all the Greys know, Don't probe me, Bro! If you want bodily fluids, just ask politely - and provide the appropriate stimulus, as with 'Hair of the Alien'.
day three....
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.Citizen Hearing On Disclosure Day 3: Panel Takes On Animal Mutilations And Roswell Crash (Live Updates)
Posted: 05/01/2013 11:19 am EDT | Updated: 05/01/2013 12:32 pm EDT
Day three of the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) begins with testimony of panel members offering accounts of animal mutilations, UFOs in England and the widespread nature of UFO sightings.
The rest of the day's discussion will center around controversial government documents and the famous 1947 account of a UFO that allegedly crashed near Roswell, N.M.
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As seriously as the 40 witnesses and six former members of Congress appear to be treating the subject of UFOs and supposed extraterrestrial visits to Earth, many media outlets have openly criticized and ridiculed the congressional-style five-day event that aims to petition Congress to open a real investigation of UFOs.
On day two, the testimony included eyewitness accounts from military eyewitnesses on the famous 1980 UFO incident that took place in the Rendlesham Forest of England, as well as cases where UFOs reportedly tampered with nuclear missile sites.
Watch these highlights from Day 2 of the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utamtXmxX8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPG9RzRF2n8
live blog at link
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okay so... 5 days of repeating al the old stuff :P
what next?
::)
:P
it all brings john q public up to speed
they can say.. oh yeah.. i heard about that.. it's all nonesense..
move on..nothing to see here
The clues are strewn all about if one wishes to pick them up and lay them out for a look.
Woodrow Wilson said this, "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Is that the bankers he speaketh of, not hardly.
Than we have this one, "The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England (1844)
How about this, "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
J. Edgar Hoover
So whats going on here. What has this planet by the throat choking it, crushing it, killing it.
Greer stated, "Those who shouldn't be in control but are comprise an illegal, rogue, break-off group that is transnational and whose members are not only ruthless and murderous but operate completely without any legal authority. When you're dealing with something as fundamentally important as this, involving technologies as powerful as those described, you begin to realize the risks to the world of allowing this masquerade to go on, unchecked, decade after decade after decade.
The shadowy cabal tells Greer this, ""Well, we know you have platinum cards and gold cards. Just maximize all of them, every month: $50,000, $100,000, whatever. Get as many of them as you want. And give us the numbers. And since we run all the supercomputers that back up and monitor the banking system of the world, we'll simply erase those account balances to zero, as paid each month."
Did you ever view the movie John Carter of mars. In that movie on mars, a shadowy group of three entities appear called therns and hand a weapon to a war lord to give an advantage to his side. Later, the lead thern t-h-e-r-n tells John Carter they don't destroy civilizations, they facilitate their destruction by managing it.
So this shadowy group of entities manage wars with technology and simply watch the show taking in all the pain and suffering their managing of the chaos, brings them.
We clearly see that happening on earth since the beginning of recorded history. A constant state of war and killing with much pain and suffering till one day the end erupts in one giant fireball.
The Aliens ruling this world don't care for humans and it shows.
day 4 and only one more to go
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.Citizen Hearing On Disclosure Day 4: Global UFO Encounters Take The Stage (Live Updates)
Posted: 05/02/2013 11:09 am EDT | Updated: 05/02/2013 1:00 pm EDT
It's international day at the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD), in Washington, D.C., in which several individuals, including military personnel, will present testimony of UFO encounters in other countries.
At the National Press Club this week, 40 international researchers and military/agency witnesses are presenting testimony in front of a committee made up of six former members of Congress.
In the following highlight from yesterday's testimony, researcher Grant Cameron reads from a Top Secret Canadian government memo which declares UFOs to be "the most highly classified subject in the United States":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELp1ICMg4oU
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In this second highlight from yesterday, former McDonnell Douglas Aerospace executive Robert Wood talks about his efforts to authenticate important UFO documents:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzPjeRu7i8Y
word for word live blog
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:P
Quote from: Eighthman on May 01, 2013, 01:00:01 PM
And as for the Sailor Moon waif, let all the Greys know, Don't probe me, Bro! If you want bodily fluids, just ask politely - and provide the appropriate stimulus, as with 'Hair of the Alien'.
It's all about those TENTACLES :P
Quote from: Gigas on May 02, 2013, 05:34:58 AM
Did you ever view the movie John Carter of mars. In that movie on mars, a shadowy group of three entities appear called therns and hand a weapon to a war lord to give an advantage to his side. Later, the lead thern t-h-e-r-n tells John Carter they don't destroy civilizations, they facilitate their destruction by managing it.
We saw the 'shadows' in Babylon 5... pitting one planet/rac e against another
In Stargate SG1 there was reference to a group that somehow had access to their own stargate and was collecting and selling alien weapons... I forget what they called them... it may be important, that name
Even Homer Simpson tells us of this group.... "Who keeps the Martians under wrap?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZI_aEalijE
The rogue group operated from a civilian branch of government called N.I.D.
QuoteThe N.I.D. is plagued by a rogue group within its ranks, which operates outside the law to acquired advanced alien technologies by any means necessary. This has included use of Earth's second Stargate for covert, off-world operations.
http://www.gateworld.net/wiki/N.I.D. (http://www.gateworld.net/wiki/N.I.D.)
N.I.D is the National Intelligence Department, also known as the National Institute of Defense. The Air-force must of covertly dropped that in for viewers who take notice, since they were so cozy to the shows dissemination of classified informational secrets.
Now this link I have inserted way down below is very interesting.
Quote"So you guys are ex-NID. You call yourselves The Trust now, right?"
—Daniel Jackson
QuoteThe Trust was also responsible for trying to personally silence any civilians who grew wise to the existence of alien life, such as Alec Colson, head of Colson Industries, who was attempting to expose the government's secret. Whereas the SGC wanted to quietly clean up the evidence, the Trust turned to outright assassination.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/The_Trust (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/The_Trust)
Sound familiar to the situation we have today.
I don't know how many countless time's the likes of John Lear or Zorgon have been bashed by the Skeptoid's in stating that the Mil run the REAL Space program....
The point of the Space Program being run by the Mil no matter what stick you use to beat people with seems to in-effective.
Once again another expert in his field states just that on Radio National (An Australian Tax Payer Media Service)
Near-Earth asteroidsThursday 2 May 2013 10:05PM
Asteroid Image: Krill Patchenko (Getty Images)QuoteOn 15 February this year a meteor, originally an asteroid, exploded over the city of Chelyabinsk in Russia. The explosion produced many small meteorites resulting in the injury of an estimated 1,500 people. World renowned space science authority Duncan Steel says we were quite lucky that the meteor hit the atmosphere at a shallow angle, avoiding much more severe damage than was caused. In 1989 Duncan Steel began the first southern-hemisphere search for near-Earth asteroids. Indeed it was the first search outside the USA but a severe lack of funding will see Australia falling behind the rest of the world in the field of space science.
SOURCEhttp://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/near-earth-asteroids/4666180
In this interview the Fellow Clearly States that the Space Program works in this order of priority:
1 > MIL
2 > Intel
3 > NASA
I love Ozzie Tax Payer Funded Media.... ;D
This same presenter is someone I emailed regarding the Navy and the Sea to Star's Doc i found whilst the ever Legendary Naval Space Command Thread was hot on ATS which Zorgon posted.
I never received a response from Phillip on that and i doubted it from the get go seeing he started the Oz Skepticks... But all the same it does illustrate that Skeptick's aint that bad when they come out with Gem's like this interview :D
Quote from: Gigas on April 30, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis
Gigas, that really is a classic quote.
I don't think the U.S. Government would ever willfully release
any info or material about the UFO subject but a good start would be all the missing aircraft gun camera UFO footage and official Naval documentation.
It's also been said that maybe folks should be looking more to the South American countries for information and a good start for the Brazilian government would be the release of the illegally held 16 hours of UFO footage from Colares.
And yes I did listen to that interview entirely as it was broadcast on the AM wave whilst working tonight on robotic legs for non leg working dude's :o
How about competitive Disclosure? Brazil, China, France and India must be waiting on us. Probably Russia, too.
Greer's theme in Sirius is worth a mention, too. It jumps beyond Disclosure directly to Free Energy and the "Petro-Fascist" economy. Very timely.
As for the US government, unfortunately our country is a war economy, little better than the Roman Empire. Eisenhower warned us but what can we do?
I would ask any new age type, does exposure 'work'? Or does the public just get jaded and tired of the latest revelation? If you think this is an unimportant concern, I would point out a recent poll in which 30% agreed that 'armed revolt' might be necessary in the next few years.
My Comment was approved on ABC... I win, a first... Now onto the Powerball whilst I am on this winning streak :D
QuoteSomamech :
03 May 2013 9:30:30am
The person interviewed clearly stated that the Space Program works in this order of Priorty:
> MIL
> Intel
> NASA
If you listened to the interview it would be clear to you that it's kinda silly to argue about money being spent on what are defunct seat's. NASA didn't retire the Shuttle... The MIL did.
LISTEN to what the person being interviewed said ;)
Quote from: Eighthman on May 03, 2013, 01:24:18 AM
How about competitive Disclosure? Brazil, China, France and India must be waiting on us. Probably Russia, too.
Greer's theme in Sirius is worth a mention, too. It jumps beyond Disclosure directly to Free Energy and the "Petro-Fascist" economy. Very timely.
As for the US government, unfortunately our country is a war economy, little better than the Roman Empire. Eisenhower warned us but what can we do?
I would ask any new age type, does exposure 'work'? Or does the public just get jaded and tired of the latest revelation? If you think this is an unimportant concern, I would point out a recent poll in which 30% agreed that 'armed revolt' might be necessary in the next few years.
Thats an actually really interesting term 8man!
As much as I hear stuff through work, see some awesome stuff from member's here and elsewhere that are legit the fact of the matter remains is that we don't have the full story as to why.
And as much as it may pee off purist's of disclosure like Stanton and his cohort's along with the other side of marketing to make a buck off it...I still see the SG1 as the best disclosure anyone will find.
If you watch some of the latter series's of SG1 they deal with the whole aspect of what you coined as "Competitive Disclosure". ;)
and day 5......the live blog goes from the beginning so that you can read it as it happened..
if, of course, you are interested ;D
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.Citizen Hearing On Disclosure: Pilots Testify To UFO Encounters (Live Updates Day 5)
Posted: 05/03/2013 11:11 am EDT | Updated: 05/03/2013 11:16 am EDT
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UFO News, Video, Citizen Hearing On Disclosure, Alien Technology, Cdh, Flying Saucers, Pilots And Ufo Encounters, Ufo Disclosure, Ufo Truth Embargo, Unidentified Flying Objects, Washington Ufo Hearings, Weird News .A former FAA official as well as private, commercial and military pilots are on tap to testify on UFO encounters as the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., draws to a close.
Also scheduled for discussions between panel witnesses and a committee of former members of Congress are the topics of an alleged UFO truth embargo, possible alien technology and the hope of ultimate UFO disclosure.
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In the following hearing highlight, former U.K. police officer Gary Heseltine testifies on behalf of law enforcement personnel who've had UFO encounters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEwqtkIVe4
and everybody's favorite smiling beard..
Watch this highlight of nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman, original civilian investigator of the 1947 Roswell UFO incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RAi7AaHbjc
In the following hearing highlight, former U.K. police officer Gary Heseltine testifies on behalf of law enforcement personnel who've had UFO encounters:
LIVE BLOG: live blogOldest Newest
4:39 PM – Today
Technology Panel Features Dr. Roger Leir's Implant Surgery And Its Alleged Relationship To The UFO Subject
The technology panel (being sworn in below), consisted of (from left) Dr. Roger Leir, physics engineer Thomas Valone, Dr. Steven Greer and aeronautical engineer Robert Wood.
During this session, Leir, a podiatrist, described the numerous surgeries he's performed with a medical team in which they removed unusual small objects from people who claimed to have experienced alien abduction.
"In my 50 years of podiatric surgical practice, I have removed literally hundreds of objects from the human foot, including paper, glass, metal and stones.
"All of the individuals involved in my study all presented no noted portal of entry for any of the objects that were removed. There was no visible scar formation and no interruption of the integrity of the skin, even when examination was performed with a magnifying loop. All the individuals in the study presented positive X-rays or CT Scans showing metallic or lesser dense foreign objects.
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I will update my next comment to ABC when it is approved :P
It's a right Doozy Otter ;D
ah-ha.. and now we have the other news guys quoting some stuff..
ETs are here and the White House knows it, says actual former senator
20 hrs ago The whole alien conspiracy thing? Turns out it's all true. Extraterrestrials have visited Earth. At least that what Mike Gravel says, and he's a former senator from Alaska, so he should know. And he knows a lot. It's dangerous stuff. You may not even want to keep reading. "It goes right to the White House," Gravel revealed this week in Washington, where he was paid $20,000 by a UFO advocacy group to speak at the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure. But how could this information be squelched so effectively, and by whom? "What we're faced with here is, in areas of the media, and the government too, an effort to marginalize and ridicule people who have specific knowledge," said Gravel, who should be marginalized and ridiculed. Trust us. We're the media. [Source]
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links to these topics are at the link below.. ;D
http://now.msn.com/mike-gravel-former-senator-says-ets-have-visited-and-the-white-house-is-covering-it-up
Well I am working harder than malt turning whiskey into whine with my comment's ;P
But I did get my second comment posted on ABC Radio National :)
Having people sit in America talking old days to no avail may be cool, but I got my comments posted on a radio station with known spook ties :P
QuoteSomamech :
04 May 2013 7:38:55am
One oddity in this interview with Duncan is the fact that Dr Ben Greene "Director of EOS-OS" has stated on ABC how it's fun to pull and push object's in orbit much like what's depicted in Star Trek.
For anyone with interest in this very important subject it may help if you read this section of EOS:
http://www.eos-aus.com/?pid=17
*Space Ablation
Ablation is "the process of generating forces on objects by means of surface interactions with energy projected from a distant point". Laser beams, directed from earth to intersect with objects in space, generate significant forces if the interaction is carefully controlled.
Up until now, the only way to avoid space debris was to adjust your course around it to prevent a collision. EOS is now fine-tuning technology that will allow pieces of space debris and other objects in space to be physically maneuvered into a different orbit using long range high power plasma beam (ablation).*
I have this ABC interview saved WORD for WORD
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/buzz/cash-for-comet/3633522#transcript
*We can fire a laser from the ground and reposition a satellite and it doesn't even have to be pre-prepared for us because when we hit the satellite we only peel a layer of atoms, it's two atoms thick.*
So to add my own comment to this post. EOS is a real company that make product's. Why do we keep hearing conflicting report's in regards to "debri" given what both Duncan and Ben state ?
Between the lines something is not computing ;)
Fun is Fun Though and I am so happy that is posted on the National Broadcaster :D
There is no doubt some spooks are looking at me :P
Quote from: Somamech on May 06, 2013, 08:24:57 PM
There is no doubt some spooks are looking at me :P
Welcome to the club. :P
;)
Quote from: A51Watcher on May 06, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
Welcome to the club. :P
;)
All I could hope is that Phillip interviews another academic who may leak a little A51 :D
AT leastzt'z we trying huh ;)
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.Richard French, Ex-Air Force Lt. Colonel, 'It Was A UFO And . . . There Were Aliens Aboard It'
Posted: 05/13/2013 12:21 pm EDT | Updated: 05/13/2013 4:08 pm EDT
When Air Force Lt. Col. Richard French was a lead investigator of Project Blue Book in the 1950s, his job was to shoot down false reports of UFOs.
Given his job, French never dreamed he'd end up in Newfoundland one day watching what appeared to him to be two extraterrestrials performing repairs on a submerged, unknown circular craft.
In Washington, D.C., recently, the 83-year-old retired officer testified at the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure, panel of six former members of Congress about his work as a UFO debunker in 1952.
French recounted how the Newfoundland incident unfolded decades ago, in the early 1950s, after two UFOs were seen by many people off the coast of St. John's. French's superiors ordered him to look into the situation.
"They said, 'We have a UFO report and we want you to investigate it,' and that was standard for what I was doing," French told The Huffington Post. "They told me there were two of them involved and that they were deep under the water, after entering the water doing roughly 100 miles an hour.
"There were a lot of people assembled on the wharf, at least 100 standing around just looking in amazement at the water, including several local policemen."
Watch Ret. Air Force Lt. Col. Richard French at the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5P6Fb1xsUg
French recalls the water was very clear and he could see two circular craft, each one about 18 feet in diameter and approximately 3 feet thick. He said the two objects were floating below the surface of the water, a couple of feet apart, not more than 20 feet from the shore. And he saw two beings in the water near the ships.
"The first thing I saw was the UFOs, and it was apparent to me that they were doing something to the craft, and I couldn't really tell what because they were on the bottom side of it and not visible to me except when they would occasionally get over to the side where I could see them. The water was fairly clear and I could see without any trouble. They weren't down at the bottom of the [seabed] -- they were about half way down."
French told HuffPost that the two beings he saw "were about 2 or 3 feet tall, light grey in color, very thin, long arms with either two or three fingers. The top of their heads was much wider than their jaw line, their eyes were very slanted and you couldn't see pupils in them. They looked the way [aliens] have been depicted in motion pictures."
As the Air Force UFO debunker watched, he says one of the ships began to rise out of the water.
"When it hit the [surface], it was going about 100 miles an hour. It then accelerated to somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,500 to 3,000 miles an hour and disappeared. It returned about 20 minutes later, slowed down to nearly a stop before it entered the water, then went down, and the two [beings] worked together.
"It took them about 20 minutes and then the two ships departed together, again slow when they exited the water, and immediately they sped up to a very high speed. I believe they were repairing [the ship] and tested that the repairs had been adequate, and then away they went."
Watch French talk about his job as an Air Force UFO debunker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YARstyo-fZI
Ironically, French's job at the time -- as a Project Blue Book investigator -- was to debunk UFOs. So, what kind of report did he file with Blue Book about this case he had personally witnessed?
"Needless to say, it was a fictitious report, as all of them were. I didn't really say that they were UFOs -- I said that there was something we didn't know -- some type of foreign or unrecognizable vehicle there. In other words, I weasel-worded it.
"Oh, I think without a doubt it was a UFO and I think there were aliens aboard it. There's no question in my mind that was exactly what it was, and my duty was to debunk the story, so I did my best to do so."
The events of the Newfoundland UFO and alleged aliens took place some 60 years ago, in the days before everyone had a digital camera or image-capture cell phone in their pocket. Despite the fact that there are no photographs to substantiate the report, it's still an amazing story.
So what are we to make of this? Because it's not the first time French has stirred up the UFO-ET pot. Last year, he told HuffPost exclusively that there wasn't just one UFO crash near Roswell, N.M., in 1947 -- he said there were two.