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Title: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: zorgon on May 15, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!

Okay so... the world has officially gone insane... or at least Hollywood has

Angelina Jolie undergoes double mastectomy
By Ed Payne, CNN


Quote(CNN) -- Actress Angelina Jolie announced in a New York Times op-ed article on Tuesday that she underwent a preventive double mastectomy after learning that she carries a mutation of the BRCA1 gene, which sharply increases her risk of developing breast cancer and ovarian cancer.

"My doctors estimated that I had an 87 percent risk of breast cancer and a 50 percent risk of ovarian cancer, although the risk is different in the case of each woman," Jolie wrote. "Once I knew that this was my reality, I decided to be proactive and to minimize the risk as much I could. I made a decision to have a preventive double mastectomy."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/14/showbiz/angelina-jolie-double-mastectomy/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


"If thine eye offends thee... PLUCK HEEM OUT" - Matthew 18:9
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 15, 2013, 08:22:07 PM
This HAS to be the greatest example of insanity I have read or heard.

The Human Specie's has lost the plot  :'(

Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 15, 2013, 08:28:04 PM
Here's ONE Woman who cured her Breast Cancer... BECAUSE SHE HAD BREAST CANCER  :o

QuoteIn the year 2013, ,Janette and Alan will run around Australia,(approx) 15,500km, 365 marathons in 365 days beyond 60 years of age! RunRAW2013 will be a fundraising and awareness event to promote kindness and compassion to all living beings.

SOURCE:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Running-Raw-around-Australia-2013/151899708156709?id=151899708156709&sk=info


MORE INFO:

http://www.runningrawaroundaustralia.com/

Why in the hell would anyone GIVE UP ANY FIGHT and why would Cancer Foundations be applauding this move.  Insanity...

Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 15, 2013, 08:50:27 PM
Inanity Link:

Wedding plans as Brad Pitt calls Angelina Jolie 'heroic' after double mastectomy to prevent breast cancer



http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/actress-angelina-jolie-undergoes-double-mastectomy/story-e6frfmqi-1226642195987


She didn't even HAVE CANCER


>:(
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 15, 2013, 08:57:51 PM
Like men having two Ball's... Women are supposed to have joy in having two horn's.  In both Gender's this two sided affair provides not only very practical elements due to breeding, but they also provide very sensual elements to the human experience which is often expressed  as "JOY"

Grrr


(http://tibet.prm.ox.ac.uk/photos/opt/400/BMR.6.8.211-O.jpg)


This IS insanity being applauded...

Locked and loaded like a Navy Lunar Cruiser on a scout Mission :D

(http://thejimshelley.worldzonepro.com/Tongren4/monks%20blowing%20horns%20at%20cham%20dancing%20ceremony.jpg)
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 15, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
The wide world of web cannot even touch Jolie's FAIL:

Here are people being labelled as FAIL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zac0SYjks

Jolie is FAILING so hard we need a new web term that is yet to reach Linguist's in Oxford  :o
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 12:29:21 AM
I'm with her on this. I would do the same thing in her shoes. She had a high probability of contracting cancer.

She can afford top-notch reconstruction, so you won't miss any cleavage.

Incidentally, this is a fairly common procedure for women at high risk of breast cancer.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Quote from: Somamech on May 15, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
Jolie is FAILING so hard we need a new web term that is yet to reach Linguist's in Oxford  :o
Failing in what?

Dying a painful an slow death?
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: petrus4 on May 16, 2013, 04:40:02 AM
Angelina Jolie was a genuinely skilled actress once, as well as being physically attractive.  These days, however, she's mostly just tabloid bait.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 04:43:56 AM
She had implants and her nipples were saved so she really did a breast augmentation with a shocking story so hollyweird will talk the talk and others will follow.

Its a new breast cancer scare fade to hit the big screen starz.

I think she really had her old implants removed with new and improved ones installed.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: robomont on May 16, 2013, 05:12:14 AM
i think she already has cancer.she looks ruff and shes having ovaries removed ahead of time?my dad died of stomach cancer and my grandfather lung cancer.im keeping my lungs and stomach.plus nowadays you can take some cancer cells put in some white blood cells.see which cancer dies and extract the white blood cell that are klling it then multiply those cells and reinject into the body.they kill the cancer and the person doesnt have to suffer.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 06:16:15 AM
This chick is one sick freak show.

Daughter of the midnite cowboy himself, John Voigt. She broke all relations with her dad and as a teen she performed self harm by cutting herself and she was suffering suicidal depression.

Guess that makes sense now as to why she did what she did. I can't understand how she was able to adopt all those kids with her mental state not in question.

I knew she was a nut case when you see her forehead and those veins poppin out.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: robomont on May 16, 2013, 06:23:04 AM
lol.i havent heard that term in a while.forgot about all those stories.new she was a nut though.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
I'm kind of disgusted by what I'm reading here. She wants to be around for her family, so she made a decision to head cancer off at the pass. Why are you being so judgmental?

It's really sad how nasty people can be to others.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
I'm kind of disgusted by what I'm reading here. She wants to be around for her family, so she made a decision to head cancer off at the pass. Why are you being so judgmental?

It's really sad how nasty people can be to others.



We understand just how highly moral and delicate your feelings and thoughts must be but there's a harsh reality going over your head while having the bed covers pulled tightly up around your skull.

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOES THAT!.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD THINK OF DOING THAT!!.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD AGREE WITH THAT!!!.

Obviously you and her share a sort of proactive thought process that over whelms the area of critical thinking into jumping off that cliff before further evaluation to the situation(s).

I suggest you get out more to calm that superficial morally high disgust and maybe stop over at GLP for a reality check to just what this world is about. Just sayin.......................
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Failing in what?

Dying a painful an slow death?

Well she still will Die Slowly and Painfully like most of us, it's the only guarantee on Earth that one will die right  :P

Once upon a time people tried to find cure's, they tried everything at their disposal to better themselves whilst keeping the dream alive.   

If you sum up all the money that has been spent on Cancer Research over the last odd 100 years which would have to count into the trillion's one may ask and also be quite sane to say that it's insane the best we can do here on Earth is to CHOP IT OFF. 

I was only listening to interview tonight with a Ethic's Dr at ST Vincent's Hospital in Sydney where Patient's with Parkinson's Disease have been cured through Stem Cell Treatment. 

Yeah so I feel quite ok with stating that Jolie is Insane along with anyone who supports someone who disembodied themselves in the name of "preventive medicine" :D

If I was to put myself in HER SHOES with all those greenback's flowing around in my purse I would try ANYTHING and EVERYTHING... IF I ACTUALLY had CANCER

;)

 
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 07:15:37 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
I'm kind of disgusted by what I'm reading here. She wants to be around for her family, so she made a decision to head cancer off at the pass. Why are you being so judgmental?

It's really sad how nasty people can be to others.

She didn't have Cancer though ???

It's not about being Nasty dude.  I think the only thing that could be considered nasty is the fact that some people see how insane it is, and people are taking up the media bandwagon.  No CT here, all is stated in the fact's.  She Disembodied herself through a statistical percentage which given the rate of success Cancer Research has is really kinda dumb :D

Just sayin 
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
Quote from: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 06:16:15 AM
This chick is one sick freak show.

Daughter of the midnite cowboy himself, John Voigt. She broke all relations with her dad and as a teen she performed self harm by cutting herself and she was suffering suicidal depression.

Guess that makes sense now as to why she did what she did. I can't understand how she was able to adopt all those kids with her mental state not in question.

I knew she was a nut case when you see her forehead and those veins poppin out.

The Doc's that dished that advice to her must make her look like a quaint garden path dude :D
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 07:41:38 PM
I listened to this show tonight,

The ethics of cloning

QuoteScientists in the US claim to have used a human skin cell to create a cloned human embryo from which embryonic stem cells could be taken.

In other words: procreation has been taken out of the picture.

In the past, surplus IVF embryos were used to grow human embryonic stem cells.

This new development could lead to breakthrough new therapies for people with conditions like multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's disease.

But, not everyone is happy.


GUEST:

QuoteDr Bernadette Tobin
Director of the Plunkett Centre for Ethics at St Vincents Hospital in Sydney

SOURCE:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/the-ethics-of-cloning/4694948

If you listen to that whole Segment you will hear some awesome news about parkinson's disease. 

As far as I gather you could plop your lot into into IVF with ya partner of choice and grow a few stem cell's and be done with a deliberating disease.  For the sake of the MS though'ts here I wont mention esoteric methods which have been known for more than a cup full of years :D


Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
When mama jolie died in 07, angelina and voigt reconciled, but that didn't last long. Voigt told some hollyweird gossip rag angelia was a nut case and that ended the reconciliation.

Angelia tattooed herself with all sort of tats that show she is whacked. Then, we see her as an anorexia victim with stick like arms. SICKENING.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: robomont on May 16, 2013, 08:01:17 PM
dear village.were arent jumping on you personally.we welcome your feedback.were just not in agreement.oh by the way i fo rgot to mention .my sister died of breast cancer at like 38.chemo and radiation didnt do shit to help.even steve jobs couldnt be helped.neither tried hemp oil.neither tried using white blood cells and neither tried baking soda to raise there ph.medicine will scam you and let you die after the insurance runs out.more people die every year from dr.mistakes than by car wrecks and gunshots combined.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
I had a cousin die not from cancer but from the chemo and meds. In the end she couldn;t take the suffering the treatments prolonging the suffering. She stopped taking everything and died after looking like a skeleton of death from pharmacuticles and the chemo.

Having the mams whacked off may cause inflamation and a start of the one thing she is s afraid of.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
Many women opt for breast removal to avoid breast cancer. This is not an unusual procedure for women at high risk. I would do the same thing in her shoes.

Attacking me personally for my opinion is small-minded. I am not your enemy. I don't know who you're angry at but don't take it out on me.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
Many women opt for breast removal to avoid breast cancer. This is not an unusual procedure for women at high risk. I would do the same thing in her shoes.

Attacking me personally for my opinion is small-minded. I am not your enemy. I don't know who you're angry at but don't take it out on me.

No-one is attacking you personally and its good to hear another side of this story. ;)

My closest friend is Taiwanese born and trained in Chinese Med with some stellar rate's in fertility that Western Med cannot come close to...  <<<

No matter how anyone see's it though you have to admit she didn't explore ALL options right ?



Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:21:15 PM
We don't know what she did and we shouldn't assume we know everything about her situation. She looked very ill last year. I don't think we have the whole story.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:21:15 PM
We don't know what she did and we shouldn't assume we know everything about her situation. She looked very ill last year. I don't think we have the whole story.

That could be very true regarding the whole story...

But according to all reports she did it as a preventive.  Which means she did all the same things she would have done if she had have actually HAD BREAST CANCER. 

And from all reports in the MEDIA they clearly state she didn't have Breast Cancer...

I get bashed for being the CT guy in my normal life for stating this or that based on what I hear from people who know their stuff in the industry... When I take the high road of using what the media state as official...

Cant Win :P

Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:34:55 PM
My Point is this:

Would you Disembody yourself when you have No reason to do so ?

People fight through many terrible circumstance that Statisticians would rate as "1 Per-center's" yet they get through to tell the tale ;)

I think this is the point some of us are trying to make, and in saying that I only speak for myself :)
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
Well she still will Die Slowly and Painfully like most of us, it's the only guarantee on Earth that one will die right  :P
Most people don't have a slow an painful death.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: robomont on May 16, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
my guess is she doesnt want to scare her chillins.so shes going with this story instead.most family do the exact same thing.then when the truth comes out .there dead.if you look at recent photos of her.she looks like she is wearing a wig and the hair poking out from underneath looks frail and damaged and thin.like radiation does to hair.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
I don't have the power to "disembody" but I would chop off my boobs in a heartbeat. They are huge and a huge pain in the ass, and expensive. I don't use them anyway.

Everybody is different. I don't need them anymore but I'm stuck with them. Jolie is worried they'll become an issue, so she lobbed them off. Big deal. It's none of our business anyway.

Honestly, I think it's men who are upset. Women understand the risks and drawbacks.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 09:40:52 PM
Most people don't have a slow an painful death.

And most people don't go hacking themselves apart on advice from research that is not yet fully understood right ?
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:46:46 PM
Scientific method  :P
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
Many women opt for breast removal to avoid breast cancer. This is not an unusual procedure for women at high risk. I would do the same thing in her shoes.

Attacking me personally for my opinion is small-minded. I am not your enemy. I don't know who you're angry at but don't take it out on me.

I'm kind of disgusted by what I'm reading here. She wants to be around for her family, so she made a decision to head cancer off at the pass. Why are you being so judgmental?

It's really sad how nasty people can be to others.


What kind a response were you expecting. Obviously you now realized you flipped a wrong switch and must become defensive.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
I don't have the power to "disembody" but I would chop off my boobs in a heartbeat. They are huge and a huge pain in the ass, and expensive. I don't use them anyway.

Everybody is different. I don't need them anymore but I'm stuck with them. Jolie is worried they'll become an issue, so she lobbed them off. Big deal. It's none of our business anyway.

Honestly, I think it's men who are upset. Women understand the risks and drawbacks.

I can understand that line of thinking regarding one's lot in life and the bigger picture. :D

I don't understand marketing and self mutilation though. 

If I used the case of Science and the embryonic research regarding Gene's I should really end it NOW.  My Grandfather had Parkinson's Disease. My Other Grandfather had Heart Disease.     

What I am arguing is that people on earth have lost the plot, and show no fighting spirit :P

Odd's are never fixed when it come's to putting up a good battle ;)



Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:56:05 PM
Giggles, don't give up your day job. Mind-reading isn't going to work out for you.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
Soma,

People have choices now that they didn't used to have and they're exercising their options.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 09:46:13 PM
And most people don't go hacking themselves apart on advice from research that is not yet fully understood right ?
No, but I was specifically answering your "Well she still will Die Slowly and Painfully like most of us", which is not true.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:56:05 PM
Giggles, don't give up your day job. Mind-reading isn't going to work out for you.

I'm retired from the world and it is not a case of reading anyone's mind as it is reading the words written.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 10:14:23 PM
No, but I was specifically answering your "Well she still will Die Slowly and Painfully like most of us", which is not true.

You should have answered that more truthfully then :P

We do DIE SLOWLY... that is a given Scientific FACT is it not ;)

Painfully well you got me there ;)

Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
I don't have the power to "disembody" but I would chop off my boobs in a heartbeat. They are huge and a huge pain in the ass, and expensive.
That's a strange anatomy you have.  ;)

QuoteHonestly, I think it's men who are upset.
Mostly, I'm man and I'm not upset.

And yes, I noticed that.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 10:41:05 PM
Ya thats the problem in of itself aint it if we drag in current sexual tension's.

We have some culture's who still behead people for having sex PRIOR to Marriage living RIGHT NOW.

See another problem is that Jolie's Boob's got talked about here, and people got a bit upset by rocking the status qou.  Fact of the matter is that it may just be Men through their admiration of women who stop this behavior becoming widespread insanity. 

Mind you though I do come from the angle that this argument would never come up on another planet :P

And I would also like to add that I know gender issue's quite well on this planet if anyone would like to travel that route :D



Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 10:50:06 PM
We could also drag into the sphere of debate how Men who do the right thing are wholly depressed.

That's a can of worms.... 

But see what the problem really is ?  We are placing unhappiness into Gender Zone's rather than facing the very real Issue of Unhappiness ;)

Why are people so unhappy and full of fear to do these things like disembody themselves.   THAT is the REAL Problem ;)
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Gigas on May 16, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
Why stop now when you can have two life altering procedures at twice the price.

Thats right, she's gonna have the ovaries removed now as well.

Truly a sicko only hollyweird can prop up on that super star pedestal.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 11:13:59 PM
Well Gigas my last post on this thread for tonight and I am posting this in a hypothetical manner as I don't have children born to my sperm mixed with my my lady's eggs...

BUT

If I did have off spring there is no way I would be sitting around quietly clapping and cheering this insanity Jolie has bought upon the world saying "Good on you lil somamech", "Bought you up well" .

Honestly can you people who find this as liberation please wake up ?





Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: robomont on May 16, 2013, 11:28:57 PM
this has been a surprising thread.when i first saw it posted i figured it would be pretty boring.im kinda shocked at how polarizing these cancer issues can be.i did not expect this.

both have some interesting points of view.
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 11:35:09 PM
Quote from: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
We do DIE SLOWLY... that is a given Scientific FACT is it not ;)
No, taking a long time to die doesn't mean we die slowly.

The guy I saw being shot last year died in less than 5 minutes, but was he dying 5 minutes before he got shot or was he just living, like any other 26 years old man?
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2013, 11:38:27 PM
Quote from: Somamech on May 16, 2013, 11:13:59 PM
Honestly can you people who find this as liberation please wake up ?
Liberation? From what? ???
Title: Re: CURE for Breast Cancer? - Cut em off BEFORE ya get it!
Post by: VillageIdiot on May 16, 2013, 11:41:12 PM
QuoteHonestly can you people who find this as liberation please wake up ?

In what way? How am I asleep?