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i may be wrong but i was just watching ktal ch6.they were showing rover clips and i thought i saw a radio tower on the horizon in one.
it may have been an optical illusion but could somebody with a computer check it out.it just may be the smoking gun.the pics were going by real fast but it looked like a structure of some kind on the right side of horizon in one photo.about a third of horizon from right about half way through clips.

(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/0064MR0285005000E1_DXXX_zps99472f24.jpg)plus their is this

  Searched the ktal nasa images, could not find the image you saw.
However, I have the image you posted and many others that I think
show critters comon to an area in Chili, S.A. In my opinion, some
nasa images origionated here on earth. Don't know where the rover
is, but the images we get may be faked or taken closer to home than
mars. Check out google earth, 26deg 08' 50.15'' s   70 deg 38' 43.24''w
  runicon 

So this is the moon?
with a white sky?
NASA= Not Another Strange Anomaly
;D
ETA; that pic looks like it rained a month ago.
When did it last rain on the moon???

Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on May 29, 2013, 04:29:43 PM
So this is the moon?

No, it's Mars. :)

Quote from: 08rubicon on May 29, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
However, I have the image you posted and many others that I think show critters comon to an area in Chili, S.A. In my opinion, some nasa images origionated here on earth. Don't know where the rover is, but the images we get may be faked or taken closer to home than mars. Check out google earth, 26deg 08' 50.15'' s   70 deg 38' 43.24''w

There aren't no roads on Mars like the one on that area of Chile. :)

But yes, there are several places on Earth that have similar geological features, the biggest difference being the erosion caused by rain or heavy wind.

  Hi armap;
     Was not refering to the roads in that part of Chili. However, how can
you be so sure that mars does not have roads ? If you can check google
for posted pictures of the area along  the pacific ocean, you can find
images of criters that resemble some nasa has shown in their mars raw
image section.Check out foxnews.com for 5/29/13. They have  a picture
of a 'martian rat' you might be interrested it.

Quote from: 08rubicon on May 29, 2013, 08:56:23 PM
Was not refering to the roads in that part of Chili.

I didn't think you were, obviously. :)
(the name of the country is Chile, not Chili)

QuoteHowever, how can you be so sure that mars does not have roads ?

You're right, I should have said "on the areas of Mars from where we have photos". :)

QuoteIf you can check google for posted pictures of the area along  the pacific ocean, you can find images of criters that resemble some nasa has shown in their mars raw image section.Check out foxnews.com for 5/29/13. They have  a picture of a 'martian rat' you might be interrested it.

I know that "rat" photo, to me it looks just like another rock, as usual. :)

It would be nice to get a true image of that location Robo!

Its looks way too saturated :)

(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/0064MR0285005000E1_DXXX_zps99472f24.jpg)

A link to the raw image would be even better! :)

Quote from: rdunk on May 29, 2013, 09:50:42 PM
A link to the raw image would be even better! :)

That's as close to the raw image as we can get. :)

thankyou armap for the effort.i just saw it flash in one photo and was gone.must have been optical illusion.gold for you for the effort.

ok,  armap, in that photo, righthand side approx. halfway up there is a round object, appears to be metal(looks like a wheel with a raised hubcap) with a round object resembling a pipe sticking out of it; shure does appear to be terribly artificial as rocks go...

can someone crop and enlarge it? tis sticking out like a sore thumb...

ok here is a crop; now someone convince me that is a rock...

www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/mars_wheel_crop.JPG
seeker(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/mars_wheel_crop.JPG)

Quote from: the seeker on May 30, 2013, 03:25:45 AM
ok,  armap, in that photo, righthand side approx. halfway up there is a round object, appears to be metal(looks like a wheel with a raised hubcap) with a round object resembling a pipe sticking out of it; shure does appear to be terribly artificial as rocks go...

can someone crop and enlarge it? tis sticking out like a sore thumb...

ok here is a crop; now someone convince me that is a rock...

www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/mars_wheel_crop.JPG
seeker

Hi seeker! I agree with your comments. I too would say that object you noted does look very unnatural. We can see what appear to be 3 circular (round) pieces in a stack of sorts. and yes, there is a hollow pipe-looking piece sticking out of it toward us.

Quote from: rdunk on May 30, 2013, 04:10:29 AM
Hi seeker! I agree with your comments. I too would say that object you noted does look very unnatural. We can see what appear to be 3 circular (round) pieces in a stack of sorts. and yes, there is a hollow pipe-looking piece sticking out of it toward us.

does appear that way, rdunk; just waiting on more analysis from the rest of the gang  8)


seeker

Quote from: the seeker on May 30, 2013, 03:25:45 AM
ok here is a crop; now someone convince me that is a rock...

Convince me that it's metal or round. ;)

The strangest part of that object is the "tube", the object itself is not much different from the other layered rocks.

I will try to find another photo from a different angle. :)

 armap;
    http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl       image you are looking for
  is 064mro285006000e1..will be found  on day 64 mast cam- scrole
  down almost to the end of 500 images to...can not find in search
       2012-10-10 16 50 50 utc
       2012-10-10 16 51 23 utc   good luck

Quote from: ArMaP on May 30, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
Convince me that it's metal or round. ;)

The strangest part of that object is the "tube", the object itself is not much different from the other layered rocks.

I will try to find another photo from a different angle. :)

that is our problem, brother; convincing anyone besides ourselves what it is; but it does not look like a rock...

just my 2 centavos...


seeker

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/SeekerMars600px.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/SeekerMars600px.jpg.html)

Enjoy, Deuem

could it be a old school steel rim and that tube is a valve stem for air to go in.im gonna talk to old man and see.

Mars Hubcap


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcA91qVXI4

Deuem:
That looks like a Chevy axle to me ;)

Armap;

OK so it's Mars.
But the rain?

ETA; i saw similar 'discs' in the shorty crater pictures (Apollo 17?)
:o
EETA;

Quote from: 08rubicon on May 30, 2013, 02:35:44 PM
armap;
    http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl       image you are looking for
  is 064mro285006000e1..will be found  on day 64 mast cam- scrole
  down almost to the end of 500 images to...can not find in search
       2012-10-10 16 50 50 utc
       2012-10-10 16 51 23 utc   good luck

Thanks, that one I already have, if I can find a second photo from a different angle I can make an anaglyph to give us a 3D perception of the scene, that's what I'm looking for. :)

Quote from: the seeker on May 30, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
but it does not look like a rock...

Why? What do you see that makes you think that's not a rock?

Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on May 31, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
But the rain?

What rain? Where do you see signs of rain? ???

Quote

ROCK IS ON THE CASE :D

Or it's another case of a rock.  ;)

sarge. that was cool.
can deuem or somebody black and white the photo?
can it be filtered with different colors to inhance it.
my old man friend said he knew of no rim like that.
if you zoom about half.it looks like at the bottom of tube is a base  that is riveted in place.diamond or octagon base?
isnt there some kind of enhancement software out their?
and i like the idea of a 3D pic. armap .that should be possible?

Quote from: robomont on May 31, 2013, 01:02:51 AM
isnt there some kind of enhancement software out their?

Garbage in, garbage out. With a photo that doesn't have enough data is not possible to make an enhancement, we can only enhance something while losing something else.

Quoteand i like the idea of a 3D pic. armap .that should be possible?

With two photos from two different angles is possible. I usually only make 3D images, but with some math (and more data) it's possible to make a 3D model.

I haven't found other photos, by I'm still looking. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 31, 2013, 01:36:00 AM
I haven't found other photos, by I'm still looking. :)

So write NASA..

surely if they find a shiny metallic looking odd rock in the middle of nowhere on Mars they would have taken more than one photo :D

Quote from: zorgon on May 31, 2013, 01:38:22 AM
surely if they find a shiny metallic looking odd rock in the middle of nowhere on Mars they would have taken more than one photo :D

"Shiny metallic looking"? Are we talking about the same rock? ???

Quote from: ArMaP on May 31, 2013, 12:27:58 AM
Or it's another case of a rock.  ;)

before you go around calling everything a ROCk you should take a course in ROCKS so you can qualify your comments when an object 'rock' looks totally out of place and context with the surrounding rock  :P

Like that gear on the moon... to call something 'just a rock' you need to be able to explain how that odd rock was formed or how it got there.

Don't forget that objects that were under water get incrusted with sediments so outwardly they have a rock like appearance...

We need to look closely at such odd out of place rocks. I have many samples on earth that are the same thing, actual artifacts encased in or coated with rock from sediments. The coated ones still retain the shape of the original artifact. If I was at NASA I would be drilling into THAT rock :P

Quote from: ArMaP on May 31, 2013, 01:48:03 AM
"Shiny metallic looking"? Are we talking about the same rock? ???

No LOL the "shiny metal one" was this one :P

(http://0.tqn.com/h/paranormal/1/H/e/8/2/mars-metal.jpg)

So now we have at least TWO odd looking OOPART 'rocks' in the same area. I am willing to bet its some ancient parts of something :D

And don't forget THIS one from Jim Garvin of NASA

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Fossils/Clip01.png)Credit:  NASA/JPL

 armap;
   I gave you numbers for two images taken from different positions.
   they are
     2012-10-10 16 50 50 utc
     2012-10-10 16 51 23 utc     found on sol 64
    these are  the only two I know of.
    rubicon

  Z;
    I know I am beating a dead horse, but have you considered that
  the rover images we are privileged to see, are not from mars ??
   rubicon

From that same NASA report with the artifact..

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/NASA_Life_01.png)

Do I see PLANTS?  :o

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Color/Lander_01.jpg)

I swear that hill behind Viking (and Carl)  looks PHOTOSHOPPED  wonder what they are trying to hide?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars5/Viking_1/sagan_high.jpg)

yeah LOL thought crossed my mind :P

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 30, 2013, 11:18:11 PM
Mars Hubcap


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcA91qVXI4

looks more like a very ancient DHD dial home device for a stargate

(http://s8.postimg.org/5odr08y1x/DHD1.jpg)


(http://s11.postimg.org/7i58awq77/DHD.jpg)

By JOVE yer RIGHT!!!!!

excellent, Gigas, more food for thought... I just cannot readily accept that this is a piece of nature untouched,fashioned, or shaped by anything other than
intelligent design...


seeker

Quote from: Gigas on May 31, 2013, 03:22:52 AM
(http://s8.postimg.org/5odr08y1x/DHD1.jpg)


(http://s11.postimg.org/7i58awq77/DHD.jpg)

OMG!!!!!   I think your onto something    ;D 8)


Edward

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/DHDgs.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/DHDgs.jpg.html)

Gray scale for Robo

What ever is right to the right of this looks like it used to sit on it.

Can anyone pick it up and place it back where it maybe broke off of?

I thought Sgt  did that?

thankyou deuem.feeling generous .gold for you.
im still of the belief its a intelligent design.but to play devils advocate for a moment.lets say its just mineral formation.i only know of two ways that peice could have moved that far is by wind or frost heave.if its wind then there are some real strong winds on mars to move it that far or mars has plenty of water .for frost to move it.

another strange thing about it is its color doesnt match the surroundings.
i think before we send folks to mars we need to send a drone to go around and hide all these anomalies so we can continue with the status quo.we wouldnt want a rebellion when the truth came out.plus we dont want mars colony bribing us with alien tech.
resistance should be futile for the colonist.lol.

(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m623/Sgt_Rocknroll/Mars-Hubcap-contours_zps6a017461.jpg) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/Sgt_Rocknroll/media/Mars-Hubcap-contours_zps6a017461.jpg.html)

I pulled the original image into a program I have and ran 'detect contours' effect on it and this is what I got.
What this tells me is that the object in question is one solid piece. Probably a rock or tolet seat or Stargate Dialer. You decide..

Peace
Rock 8)

Quote from: zorgon on May 31, 2013, 11:26:13 AM
I thought Sgt  did that?

I can't see the videos, If he did, sorry. I missed it...

Quote from: zorgon on May 31, 2013, 01:53:03 AM
before you go around calling everything a ROCk you should take a course in ROCKS so you can qualify your comments when an object 'rock' looks totally out of place and context with the surrounding rock  :P

So, what does your qualifications say about that object? :)

Quote from: Gigas on May 31, 2013, 03:22:52 AM
(http://s8.postimg.org/5odr08y1x/DHD1.jpg)

You're right, it sure looks like the stargate dial.  :o

thats crazy sarge.never seen anything like that.

Cleaned up

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/AutoLevels.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/AutoLevels.jpg.html)

Played with color

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/try3.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/try3.jpg.html)

Got a duck or rooster head from a different perspective..

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/tryduck.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/tryduck.jpg.html)

I do want to look at the 4 holes in the ducks beak. See the middle shot.

DHD  :o

Quote from: deuem on May 31, 2013, 10:52:32 AM
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/DHDgs.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/DHDgs.jpg.html)

Gray scale for Robo

What ever is right to the right of this looks like it used to sit on it.

Can anyone pick it up and place it back where it maybe broke off of?

Notice the ground embeded center base of the DHD support has an outer ring around it. It does look as though it was blown off its base structure.

http://youtu.be/rpGU3qbmJuU

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGU3qbmJuU

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 31, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
http://youtu.be/rpGU3qbmJuU

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGU3qbmJuU

Image version for Deuem. :)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/8211/marte1.jpg)

This is for anyone that has not watched SG and may not know of that device in a TV series's :D

We call this the Dial Home Device



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT9aJKkiKDc

somebody made one for a game mod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d1ZX1GpcKU

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 31, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
http://youtu.be/rpGU3qbmJuU (http://youtu.be/rpGU3qbmJuU)

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGU3qbmJuU

Thanks Sarge, thats it. Do you see the tube in my crazy duck photo, The tube seems to have a split in it. On purpose or not I don't know. So I think that tube is shaped different. can you give it a go and post a photo.

Thanks ArMaP. I could not get the vid..

Also to the exact right of the object there is a call it Pipe on the ground with straight edges. Anyone got a second photo??

Deuem

Quote from: zorgon on May 31, 2013, 01:57:33 AM
So now we have at least TWO odd looking OOPART 'rocks' in the same area. I am willing to bet its some ancient parts of something :D

And don't forget THIS one from Jim Garvin of NASA

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Fossils/Clip01.png)Credit:  NASA/JPL

Resembles a door handle from a '55 chevy  8)

so whose got car parts scattered around? or are they taking shots in our deserts...

Quote from: 08rubicon on May 31, 2013, 01:58:41 AM
armap;
   I gave you numbers for two images taken from different positions.
   they are
     2012-10-10 16 50 50 utc
     2012-10-10 16 51 23 utc     found on sol 64
    these are  the only two I know of.
    rubicon

Sorry for not answering your post sooner.

Those two photos were not taken from different positions, they were taken from the same position, only the camera was rotated to take several photos for a panorama, like the one you can see here (http://gigapan.com/gigapans/131261), made by me with those photos. :)

Has no one see the Mars Rat?

Quote from: deuem on June 01, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
Has no one see the Mars Rat?

It's on here somewhere, deuem, just having trouble finding it at the moment...


seeker

Looks like a Tesla bladeless turbine pump to me :D

probably fell off one of those German ufo's we keep hearing about... ::)

"Das vorsprung der teknik" LOL

i could see that but what about the tube coming off of it?

Oh the tube, has to be the outlet.
Comes in thru the center, out the side, like a vacuum cleaner ::)

At least it's not a 59 Chevvy axle like the last one looked like :)