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Title: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Somamech on December 14, 2011, 05:41:17 PM
I really have no words for how amazing this is apart from music being subjective, but in this case... this is beyond doubt something amazing.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsKq3HD0EFc
Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on December 15, 2011, 01:16:36 AM
WOW Soma.... never seen that before!  :o

I am really impressed, and on the one hand surprised by how much John Bonham I hear in there (vice-versa of course), but not really when you you think about it, John was obviously well educated on the masters in his field who had influenced him.

Elements of Buddy Rich also surface in John's work as well. I remember Johnny Carson once asking Buddy what he thought of this new music coming out these days and if he liked any of it. He responded "Well that kid John Bonham seems to know how to hit the skins."  ;D

Here is a clip of Buddy that could well be the night I saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgaD54YcXpA


Thanks for sharing that clip of Joe! Dood was a monster!

Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Somamech on December 16, 2011, 05:22:10 PM
Likewise thanks A51  ;D

You gave me some names to check out there mate!

I only came across Joe recently this year through that video and thought straight away "Thats how I always wanted to play drums"  (16 years later lol) 

It wasn't till later that I realised he was the drummer in that famous song.   :o

Showing my age here (35) as I spent a lot of time in my "Well Spent Youth" with Miles in that period where he turned the back on the Jazz and went a bit mad which was well before my time, and greatly appreciated in my time amongst the few..now the many I guess as I don't get out anymore  ;D

The recordings are brilliant too!  no multi-mic placement... just a a coupole of mics and sheer talent that can play in any time signature they feel.  Alien Music ?  ;D




Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: IronDogg on December 17, 2011, 01:56:49 AM
For a new guy drummer with unique style, check this dude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E

The band is nothing special, but the drummer sure shows an interesting passion... :)
Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 18, 2011, 06:53:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47yxLg2RyXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHkucr1jJpQ

Neil Peart always leaves me speechless.

Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 18, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWc2tu6Np_8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsRJEOxDwuA

:D
Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Somamech on December 20, 2011, 07:25:56 PM
O man El these are talented folk no doubt.  But heck they became lead guitarist's in band practise with them sticks.  ;D

Joe had Musical Style beyond technique  8)



Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Captain Dave on December 21, 2011, 04:57:49 PM
Here's a couple things I created a while back, nothing Great, but they were first attempts - in other words, I just played and recorded and this is what came out. I played all the different instruments sperately, recording one over the next... (I recorded them under the name "King of Exile") Twas fun though!  :)

http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=84754814&ac=now

http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=80198470&ac=now

Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 09, 2013, 02:05:22 AM

Long past due in this discussion of great drummers to mention of course master drummer John Bonham to the list -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-42mu1D9Y





Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Elvis Hendrix on July 09, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
Amon Tobin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWai4UZ0OqI


Elvis
Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 04:49:51 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 18, 2011, 06:53:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47yxLg2RyXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHkucr1jJpQ

Neil Peart always leaves me speechless.


Thanks for putting Neil up E, saved me the trouble.  8)


Ditto on always leaving me speechless as well.

I have been attending Rush tours since the Signals tour. Neil is a WOWser every time.


His various influences and styles such as South American and African etc. are always brilliantly displayed.   

Here's a recent revelation from the man himself -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaA53w70K5g




Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 04:57:17 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 18, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWc2tu6Np_8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsRJEOxDwuA

:D


Great stuff, fantastic kits!!  8)


Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: sky otter on July 10, 2013, 04:59:33 AM

51..a fun place for you to visit.. ;)

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummerchoice.html
Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 04:59:49 AM
Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on July 09, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
Amon Tobin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWai4UZ0OqI


Elvis


VERY interesting Elvis! Reminds me -a lot- of what Roger is doing with new technology on his current Wall tour.

Very cool thanks for sharing.  8)


Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 05:10:57 AM
Quote from: sky otter on July 10, 2013, 04:59:33 AM
51..a fun place for you to visit.. ;)

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummerchoice.html

Excellent link sky, I recognized all but 2 of the 15 names and agree they belong on the list.

Looks like great fun thanks!  ;D


eta: somebody needs to hip those cats to Joe Morello for sure though.

...and no Neil Pert?? seriously?  ???



Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: sky otter on July 10, 2013, 05:23:46 AM


he's down here in this batch


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Charly Antolini
Brian Blade
Louie Bellson
Jeff Hamilton
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Peter Erskine
Dom Famularo
Kiko Freitas
Danny Gottlieb
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Greg Hutchinson
Mel Lewis
Shelly Manne
Art Mardigan
Joe Morello
Lewis Nash
Clarence Penn
Ed Thigpen




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Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 05:56:29 AM
sarah t!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gX0XUKOpZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXjCI6wiDFQ
Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 08:10:36 AM
Quote from: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 05:56:29 AM
sarah t!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gX0XUKOpZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXjCI6wiDFQ


Great stuff undo!  ;D

How did you know congas and bongos is where I was heading next?  ???

;D


Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 08:19:10 AM
Hey Soma, got any more cigars?  ;)  ;D


Ok Drummer fans here's a rare treat -

We now get to compare John Bonham's early solo from 1970 above, with how much it had evolved in 1977, from his final tour!  8)


I was at this show, (as well as every tour they did I might add ;D ) and I can tell you the reason we even get to see this little gem at all in the first place , is it was played in the Seattle Kingdome, which was this huge gargantuan arena that seated like a zillion people, and in the back and the nosebleed seats the musicians looked like little stick figures and you couldn't see who they were or what was going on.

So for all shows they had rigged up this live camera to display on this huge overhead screen, so those in the cheap seats didn't feel too ripped off.

A copy of that video footage shot that night managed to surface in the public years later.  8)


He seems to have incorporated some new rhythms and influences - ;D

Enjoy!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipVrxd-Aupk





Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 09:47:52 AM
Now then, chomp chomp  8)


Being familiar with Bonzo's chops shown in his above 2 solos, we see in the 1970 version while he is playing the Congas, he holds his hands high for part of it indicating he is also familiar with playing the Tablas.

We are now treading on Santana's percussionists area, but that is for another style and influence.


In John Bonham's case, I contend one of his big influences besides Buddy Rich was East Indian. 


Not surprising when you discover how complex and powerful that style is.

Have a listen to this track starting at 30:00, and you will hear Bonham style Tabla riffs and rhythms all the way through to the end -  8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r07NQ_ZvJlo   



Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: Elvis Hendrix on July 10, 2013, 11:24:01 AM
But sometimes you just need the groove.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_iqbgGXFw


Elvis

Title: Re: [General Section] Musical Know How - Joe Morello - 1961 Drum Solo
Post by: undo11 on July 10, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: A51Watcher on July 10, 2013, 08:10:36 AM

Great stuff undo!  ;D

How did you know congas and bongos is where I was heading next?  ???

;D

if she can hit it, she uses it for percussion lol tables, vases, cans, boards, bongos, congas, drum sets, etc