Mixed in with all the various ET contact reports from people world wide, there is one category we can consider hostile.
Information on these types of contacts is understandably hard to come by, as too much of it would raise real fears and concerns to unacceptable levels.
Even harder to come by are cases with provenance that you can track down and a researcher that will put his name on it.
Even so, I will present in this thread the existing public cases that deserve a second look and second thoughts.
Let's start with a chapter from someone you would least expect to see material like this coming from - Jacques Valle!
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/134373283/Jacques-Vallee-Confrontations-A-Scientist-s-Search-for-Alien-Contact (http://www.scribd.com/doc/134373283/Jacques-Vallee-Confrontations-A-Scientist-s-Search-for-Alien-Contact)
Go to - Part Three: The Price of Contact - Chapter 9: Lethal Imapct
Now stuff THAT in your beamship pipe and smoke it!!
??? :o
The first time I read this I had to look at the cover again to make sure it was Valle.
Pretty surprising considering his rep.
Jacque Vallee certainly is a good starting point, he is an odd bird. (Partridge actually)
Wish we could get him to stop in here. He was in the Aviary, and according to John also MJ12 (#7). He is the Frenchman in Close Encounters :D and is connected to Bigelow and the Skin Walker Ranch in Utah
We have still to see the data NIDS collected
Jacques Vallée
Jacques Fabrice Vallée is a venture capitalist, computer scientist, author, ufologist and former astronomer currently residing in San Francisco, California. Wikipedia
Born: September 24, 1939 (age 73), Pontoise, France
Education: Northwestern University
Northwestern University was where we got the 'leak' from of the about to be release color Clementine images coincidence?
Next up is one by Brad Steiger -
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And now another one -
The Flying Saucers are Hostile!
by George D. Fawcett
http://www.mumeson.org/index.php/flying-saucers-magazine/68-flying-saucers-feb-1961-flying-saucers-hostile (http://www.mumeson.org/index.php/flying-saucers-magazine/68-flying-saucers-feb-1961-flying-saucers-hostile)
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A Thesis Submitted to the Air and Staff College of Air University in Partial Fulfillment of The Requirements for Graduation - June 1968
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
HEADQUARTERS AIR UNIVERSITY
MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE AL 36112-5001
"... Nevertheless, one does find a few works which are serious attempts to warn of the malevolent nature of at least some of the space beings. [3] In any serious investigation of a problem all factors and approaches should be considered. For this reason, claims of hostile actions must be considered and not rejected out of hand.
What are hostile actions? For the purpose of this paper, hostile actions are defined as actions which result in the death or injury of human beings and actions which disrupt the normal flow of human activity in a manner antagonistic to human interests. There are in the literature many examples of hostile actions on the part of space beings: death of two South American technologists, [4] death of Capt. Mantell (USAF), [5] disappearance of U.S. aircraft, [6] injury to a scout master in Florida, [7] abduction of a South American farmer, [8] abduction of Mr. and Mrs. Barney Hill, [9] the appearance of a monster-like being in Virginia, [10] reconnaissance of defense installations, [11] harassment of aircraft and automobiles, [12] power blackouts [13] and actions which purportedly indicate preparations for an invasion of the Earth. [14]
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Members of the group claiming hostility on the part of space beings take the ominous approach. In addition to citing examples of distasteful contact with space beings, they also claim suppressive actions on the part of mysterious representatives of space societies, and even threatening visits by individuals who, in the opinion of the visitee, represent such agencies as the CIA, FBI and clandestine US government agencies. [15] It is claimed that these visitors issue threats to UFO investigators to terminate their investigations immediately. It is claimed that the reason for such government intervention is that the implications in the existence of extraterrestrial beings are so serious that the government does not want their existence proved to the public. [16] The subject of implications is treated in chapter IV of this paper. Suffice it to say at this point that the implications are serious enough that the rationale for suppression is not altogether unreasonable.
Those who claim hostile intent share the burden of proof is upon them. As with the other camps, the hostile group has no convincing hardware-type evidence. The evidence
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is circumstantial. Conclusions are drawn from the frame of reference of the observer. For example, if an individual suffers temporary paralysis caused by some action on the part of a space being, he, as a human being , may consider this to be undesirable and a hostile act. This is a subjective conclusion drawn from an act which in itself contains no malevolent or benevolent connotation. In this example, consider that paralysis may likewise be a beneficial condition to prevent death or injury to the observer by keeping him a safe distance from harm. The same rationale can be used for the death, injury, abduction and reconnaissance incidents cited in the literature. These acts could be considered benevolent or neutral in intent as well as malevolent. For this reason, the author has found that hostile type literature is more interesting from the standpoint of description of the incident than from the conclusions drawn. The account of the abduction of Mr. and Mrs. Barney Hill is one of the most compelling report in the literature and is highly recommended to interested readers. [17] While such an abduction would admittedly be very unnerving to the abducted, the incident caused no harm, if one can discount the possible long term psychological effect of the experience on the Hills.
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In summary, the proponents of hostility tend towards sensationalism, address only specific cases without regard to the general context, are rather superficial in their treatment, may conceal the identity of the principals and draw conclusions concerning intent which do not necessarily follow from the incidents. On the other hand, some of the points made worthy of consideration, especially those which relate to implications."
When saucers attack:
Anyone catch this one? :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iFbH1StEoU
I think this one has been posted...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8w7O2Rl8Q
Ellirium113 what the hell is that second vid :o not seen that. hoax?
Footage of one of our beam weapons I cant see the footage being allowed out
and what about the driver of the car,they would be blind.surly.
@A51watcher Thanks for the links to the books esp the jacques vallee book CONFRONTATIONS, I would like an original copy for my collection as I have a few from
the early days in ufology,These are some of the best for research material as most of the later books are just repetitive and sensationalized to cash in on the subject.
Great it's online though,some disturbing case's in there.makes you wonder what the big picture really is.gold for ya effort.
QuoteEllirium113 what the hell is that second vid not seen that. hoax?
If I had to guess I would say he got hit by some sort of plasma weapon. He's smoking pretty good afterwards but not on fire interestingly enough.
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