Pegasus Research Consortium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngYUWs30Yvc


Well, this is amazing! I made a video that I'd actually tell someone about.

video (http://youtu.be/ngYUWs30Yvc)

One of my favorite subjects; Earth's "secret space fleet".

The military force that doesn't exist, but has spent something over $200 Trillion over the past 25 years or so.

I have few "curses" but one, my ability to "see" things that aren't right in front of me, my ability to communicate with others at a distance without technology (sorry I gotta know ya to make it work) sometimes give me something other than grief. In this case a possible "snapshot" of the non-existent.

Anyway, in my wee video I show some images built from 3D models of real Terrestrial spacecraft (one I actually downloaded the "base").

Earth's newest space plane; I call it the SF-100, I sure the Air Force has something way cooler ;D

Nice!!  You left out the orbital shot from 1986 :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/04images/Triangles/orbit.600.jpg)

Quote from: zorgon on July 09, 2013, 12:03:33 AM
Nice!!  You left out the orbital shot from 1986 :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/04images/Triangles/orbit.600.jpg)

1986 ... that would make it something like a TR3.

Back in the day; before space based carriers.

i think they got a bunch of them tr3s.
ill post the best vid i know.its awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH_HPzhlpMI

Put forth with what you have, Anthra; I and several others here are of the opinion that this is indeed old news...


seeker

Yes, it is indeed old news, but, there is a element of "new"

The craft ...

The space-based carrier (I took liberties with the name), while isn't new has not been seen and no attempts to render it's likeness made to the best of my knowledge.

(http://alien.wolfmagick.com/images/TerrestrialShips/EarthFleet1.png)

Admittedly this image is the product of "remote viewing", and a large amount of time "decoding" the image and associated telepathic content, but it still represents a "first look" at something that has been deliberately hidden from view.

It is my understanding that there are currently 7 of these carriers; 3 - US, 2 - EU, 1 - RU, 1 - CH. All of the same design and capability. So, as we can see, any thing that might look like an arms race is still quite intact.

The space planes are also kind of new, in that they are not TR-3bs. They aren't even a "new generation" of that technology. These are completely different in that they produce artificial gravity as opposed to "disrupt" gravity. The advantage is a much smaller craft, less overall mass, and greater power to weight ratio. The disadvantage is it requires superconducting temperatures, and in its present configuration, it can not hover on Earth.

The space planes have taken an interesting development route. When I was preparing the images and models I went for "another look" at available 3D models, specifically at the X-47 UCAV. I found one that didn't cost an arm and half a leg, and downloaded it.

The major difference between the X-47 and this space place is the length. The X-47 is around 38 feet in length, this plane is 52 feet. A subtle, but, important difference. What this allows is for the space lane to be sighted "on planet" and not raise suspect ion,  after all; its an X-47 right?  You gotta love this from an engineering standpoint; develop highly secret technology in the open, change one property, and its name, now no one knows. (and ya get a UCAV outta the deal :) )

Each carrier has at least 75 of these SF-100 craft.

Thor,

Thanks for fixing the OP.

Strange tag usage, but, what ever. :)

Nice Anthra!!

I don't know anything about remote viewing, but heard it is all the rage. I have seen some very disturbing things from remote viewer's, but more the horror stories than anything visual.

Good job none the less, will be watching for one of those 'USS B. Obam's' in the future!!
Thanks for sharing. ;)

1WW

Back several years... when that DIA/AF Spook came to 'visit' John and I he brought a flash drive with some pictures on it. One in particular is very interesting. This was on my harddrive about a year before it got out to the internet.

Now it is labeled as a Boeing X45C that was discontinued when the X47 (aptly named Pegasus by the guys at palmdale :P )  But look at this image closely...

(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/x45c.jpg)

I am doubting the name of the carrier though. The naming of ships follows an age old tradition and they have followed that since sailing ships. The Never name one after a live president.

The number 7 though was what we had with the old Solar Warden fleet when Pegasus was created.

The TR3B was deliberate misdirection and Ed Fouche being the main culprit in that. He once blurted out on Open Minds forum that he was a CIA mind control agent and gave details. My questioning that comment was met by having my posts deleted and soon after Open Minds was killed, all files wiped and the mods split up

The Triangle in that video of robomont's is a CGI that has appeared being shot in several locations. If yo listen to that video of yours the guy doesn't say anything? LOL not even a HOLY CRAP when it warps out?  Anyway in the comments you will see this

VIKINGODIN 2 months ago
That is my video you thief

It was made by him  its on his CGI channel HERE (http://www.youtube.com/user/VIKINGODIN/videos)

(http://www.angelsfortruth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/TR-3B.png)

Might look more like this  :D   

(http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/2011/10/08__10_42_42/Prometheus3.jpg637a7733-6ce0-4fa1-b0d8-a7efd031d1deLarge.jpg)

The planes are kept in hangers and launched with maglev tracks. Yeah I know sounds like science fiction... :P

But NASA has been testing them openly at... you guessed it Palmdale/Edwards

(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/480918main_ELHVrailtest.jpg)

(http://www.g2mil.com/maglev.jpg)

(http://spectrum.ieee.org/images/aug03/images/magsb1.jpg)

DARPA has lost two of these recently... they just went too fast :D

But these are likely the latest cover story :P

(http://www.gadgetfreak.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Falcon-Hypersonic-Technology-Vehicle-2.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/12/article-2024954-0D65A3E900000578-783_636x273.jpg)

When we were at ATS Beth(undo) told me a story and her husband confirmed it... basiclally he saw a huge triangle... in 1985

Hill AFB, Utah 1985
During war games at Hill AFB, Utah, I was standing out on the flightline, guarding the perimeter, the entry-access control point. The rest of the base was in black out conditions, with black plastic over the windows of the buildings. All of the sudden,  an aircraft or an airship was above me, of unknown origin. It was the biggest aircraft I have ever seen, completely silent and moved approximately ten miles an hour, almost floating. It was triangular, no visible engines, no markings, gun metal black.

It essentially looked like it could fly in space.  And when it accelerated, it leaped frog; that it is to say, it blinked out and reappeared farther away. It basically disappeared when it accelerated.

BV

Now when the following video was shown on Fox TV in Florida, he called me excitedly and said;

"THAT"S IT! That's what I saw in 85, only it was much bigger"

Pay attention to what the NASA guy is saying  Beth transcribed it... look at it and read between the lines



Transcript of Video
by Beth Vegh, Pegasus

One day Air Force pilots will blast off from US bases and reach their targets, flying six times the speed of sound.  The Air Force just completing a successful test flight that can make this simulation a reality.  It's an experimental plane using a new engine that not only burns its fuel but it blows itself up for greater propulsion.

NASA analyst, aviation consultant, Ken Christiansen my guest now.

Reporter (Bill):  Ken, good morning.
Ken:  Mornin' Bill
Bill: In english now, not in science talk,
Ken: (chuckles)
Bill:  How does it work?
Ken:  Very, very complicated.  Ah, basically ah, as we transcended from one area to another, from jets to uh, scramjets and rockets, this is more of an explosion within the combustion chamber.  A series of very small explosions or large explosions but pulse up to maybe a thousand a second and that will, just like the jetson cars that accelerated you would hear the pulsing umm..much like that.
Bill: Check that out. You see that go off the runway?
Lady in background: hmph
Bill:  It was gone. What would this do for aviation, Ken?  If we can do it succesfully?
Ken:  I think as you go through the uh different technologies, what what really, this is gonna be an enabler to go in the Mach V to Mach X regime
Bill: Which is how fast?
Ken:  Ah, very fast.
Bill:  That three thousand miles an hour, what is that?
Ken: About three thousand um, you're talking about 2300 miles at Mach 3, so, just under, just under 10,000, within that range.
Bill: So you can take off, you can take off from a runway -- let me be sure I get this right -- fly it at six times the speed of sound and then come back home again?
Ken:  Yes, much like the shuttle.  The shuttle goes up and comes back as an orbiter. This vehicle would actually be able to take off from a runway or maybe uh a modified launch pad and then return like an aircraft.
Bill:  How, how does a human being stand that ...at six times the speed of sound?  What, what, what would that feel like?
Ken: It's, it'll be gradual.  A human can't that immediate uh, acceleration, so much like the space shuttle, the existing space shuttle, the accelerate from, or they leave the pad at zero and then go up to 17,500 miles an hour to reach orbital velocity.  To go into uh, into space, but that's a gradual. In the shuttle's situation it takes about 9, 9 and a half minutes to uh to accelerate to that speed.
Bill: You need the, the equipment to be able to stand it too.  How, if if it could be done, what would it cost?
Ken:  Uh, that's TBD at this point. The monies that I uh read about on the, when I researched this item, um, it's it's in the millions but this will clearly go into the billions as this, as this is developed.  Air Force has been doing it.  Darpa's been doing it.  Um NASA, uh Dryden Flight Research Center in the uh, does it.
Bill: Yeah uh everyone does it yeah.  Wonder what Wilbur and Orville are thinking about this right now. (laughs) uh huh, cool.
Lady in background: (laughs)
Bill: Thank you, Ken. Ken Christiansen. The future, someday.
Ken: You're welcome, Bill
Lady in background: 10,000 miles an hour
Bill: (whistles)
Lady: That's NY to LA in 20 minutes (snaps her fingers).  How'd you like that?  I'm in.
Bill: I like it!
Lady: Even me. Even I'd get on that flight.


Dyrden is in Palmdale

{{{waves at LSWONE}}}

Individual Sightings
Huge Spaceplane Sighted Over Ireland in 2004

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Triangle_Plane/spaceplaneagb8.png)

Originally posted by John Lear

A huge shuttle type spaceplane was sighted over Ireland on April 27th, 2004 by Miles Johnston, a Dublin Tower Rigger at 8:30pm.

It was traveling west to east and took 8 seconds to travel from directly overhead to where it disappeared in the evening sky above greater Belfast, Ireland.

Miles wrote me about a month later and enclosed this drawing and map.

I recently wrote to Miles and asked permission to post this information on ATS and he said by all means.  He also said it was ok to give his name.

The only comment I have other than there is no doubt in my mind that this is a space shuttle operated by the U.S. is that it may be constructed out of the new ceramic materials that we have been hearing about. And when I say 'new' ceramic materials, they are about 20 years old and can withstand extremely high temperatures. Also, it was probably landing at Macrahanish (about 60 miles north of this sighting.)

Here is Miles drawing.(see above) (It was in pencil so I darkened the lines with a black felt tip pen.) Below [is] his letter and below that the map.

May 24, 2004

Hi John,

I had hoped to have a computer version of this but the pencil line drawing is what I have.

I hope it has enough detail, if not the drawing, the text notes that come with it.

The map is approximate. It could be a few degrees off either way, but the basic direction from west to east, disappearing fro the low sun angle, over the high sky above Belfast is right.

We viewed from 900 feet above sea level, on a high hill at Lough More Co. Monaghan, while servicing my 160 foot pirate radio tower (We joke and call it Alien Mountain, as we have a few odd things go on up here.) So we were looking up at the time.

At 8:30pm on Tuesday April 27th, 2004. The sun was still above the horizon at that time of year, but quite low, and setting more north west than due straight west. The color of the main underbelly was blued by the atmosphere, which indicates its height was high. It was dull grey, gun grey. Some vestigel patterning/vehicle construction marks, gave me the impression to me it was man-made advanced shuttle.

The twin tails appeared very small from the angle of view, but appeared to be just above the dark black rectangular engine bay. It's possible there were no tails, that this white upper section was the rear of the main upper body.

There were no engines visible, no nozzles. Just a jet black rectangular engine or vent port. Na vapor trail was visible at all.

The white nose implies it does not have a re-entry heating problem that the shuttle has.

The front of the wings looked curved and protected in some way. Not totally dissimilar to a shuttle wing. But much thicker, and extending almost to the very nose.

No flaps or ailerons sections were noticed. I did not have enough time to observe this. After 5 seconds went by I went to get my camera, just 2 feet away, but it was gone by then over greater Belfast.

That's about it. It really moved through the air effortlessly. It was about the size of a British %p. or U.S. penny, at arms length. (My arm is about 30" from finger to neck.)

I have put a typical passenger jet and its vapor trail in the same scale as we saw this. We had scattered cloud, and this was ell above the clouds, in a band of clear dark blue sky, directly above us.

It was very high from us. Even if it was 10,000 ft. it would be 5 or 10 times bigger than a 747. As I suggest, it was far higher. It really is an enormous craft.
..Perhaps an Alternative 3 vehicle?

Regards

T Miles G Johnston

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Triangle_Plane/spaceplanemapaah2a.png)

Z.that carrier looks close to what I saw...


seeker

Well 'Z', there are definitely three seemingly circular lights located on wing Tips/Aft edge and there seems to be another on the underside of the Nose, err go "Triangular Craft Lights" which have been reported for sometime now. ;) Another thing that sticks out strangely enough is the gentlemen standing on the wing, tells me this is not the materials used for the F-114 Mfg. ???

(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/x45c.jpg)

On another note, there was one image that was remarkably close to artists rendering's of what was being denied as the existence of "Tassette Blue Program".

The Fox news report I seen when it was released, was watching the news and was amazed when it aired as open MSM report. When I first seen it, I was thinking of Scram Jet technologies, of course by this time, the French were all excited about being in the Top Ranks for aeronautical prowess with Scram Jet, so was a bit caught off guard to hear the the interviewee say it "WASN'T" ScramJet technology, and for this I considered Plasma Pulse engine too achieve such high velocity in short period of time.

Probably the same technology that they are going to use for "CubeSats" being ready for use in 2014. As far as I can tell.

I do have one Question 'Z' "Was this aeronautical skin the development of the reverse engineering at A51 when BL was there?" And if so "Is it safe too say this is the Roswell crash results of said materials researched and deciphered?" Just curious.

1WW

zorgon .your breakin my heart .what evidence do you have that the paris vid is fake? if it is then its one of the best fake vids i have ever seen.

on another note.my physics friend from nasa worked on the maglev.he once told me about burning up a large bank of capacitors.
he had two sons .one worked for nsa and the other worked for usgs.
he was one of the nicest people i ever met .he never spilled the beans but i think he was trying to hint to me about maglev.he also worked on    the that black dart thing that the lower tail broke off of right before landing.he was the instrument tech.
he just past away this spring.i will miss him.

Quote from: zorgon on July 10, 2013, 10:24:53 AM
I am doubting the name of the carrier though. The naming of ships follows an age old tradition and they have followed that since sailing ships. The Never name one after a live president.

Indeed. So what happened with: USS George H. W. Bush (CVN-77)? If memory serves, he yet lives.

The TR3B was the end of an era. It was actually a viable technology that didn't quite make it due to insufficient supporting technology. There was a rather long time when many of the serious space technology couldn't be developed because you lacked the control and or power system required. That is changing rapidly now, computing and power densities are increasing nicely.

The new "space technologies" will change the face of technology in general, much the same as the microprocessor did 40 years ago. With these new technologies will come a new science and physics.

Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on July 10, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
Nice Anthra!!

I don't know anything about remote viewing, but heard it is all the rage. I have seen some very disturbing things from remote viewer's, but more the horror stories than anything visual.

At times I wish I didn't know much about remote viewing either, don't necessarily "want" to see some things. Didn't know it was "all the rage" though; I started playing around with it in the early 70's, found it kind of easy, but not very useful. Recently though, I can look at spacecraft near the asteroid belt, and if I watch the reports carefully, I might just see confirmation (it actually happens a lot).

Quote
Good job none the less, will be watching for one of those 'USS B. Obam's' in the future!!
Thanks for sharing. ;)

1WW

:)

After watching the videos of the 'triangle' I was thinking the same thi g as Z. This guy must see these everyday and it was old hat to him. Or more likely a friend was operating the Rov like he does in his backyard. Lol

Quote from: zorgon on July 10, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
Back several years... when that DIA/AF Spook came to 'visit' John and I he brought a flash drive with some pictures on it. One in particular is very interesting. This was on my harddrive about a year before it got out to the internet.

Now it is labeled as a Boeing X45C that was discontinued when the X47 (aptly named Pegasus by the guys at palmdale :P )  But look at this image closely...

(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/x45c.jpg)

If that is the X47A or B, then it is probably the Technology Mockup and not a production aircraft?

X47A:

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5135/t1z7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/t1z7.jpg/)

X47B:

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2809/k6ay.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/k6ay.jpg/)

Anyone noticed a passing resemblance to that UFO from England earlier this year?

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1108/857596ufo.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/857596ufo.jpg/)

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Quoteit blinked out and reappeared farther away. It basically disappeared when it accelerated.

THIS has been on my mind ever since i read about the supposed craft being tested.
what do you think the propulsion is or what effect would cause the observed "blink out leapfrog" effect? sounds incredibly exotic 8) and this was 1985 :o
FTL? bending space time?
cloaking maybe? oh i just want to see it all and touch it!!!I WANT TO SEE IT ALL
The only way this may be possible is to work in that field of study.we need more whistle blowers.
it's just not fair.we get shown stuff that is "state of the art" yeah for 50 years ago :P

Quote from: stealthyaroura on July 19, 2013, 03:42:08 PM
THIS has been on my mind ever since i read about the supposed craft being tested.
what do you think the propulsion is or what effect would cause the observed "blink out leapfrog" effect? sounds incredibly exotic 8) and this was 1985 :o
FTL? bending space time?
cloaking maybe? oh i just want to see it all and touch it!!!I WANT TO SEE IT ALL
The only way this may be possible is to work in that field of study.we need more whistle blowers.
it's just not fair.we get shown stuff that is "state of the art" yeah for 50 years ago :P

One has to remember with due diligence of the 'Assumption' of FTL acclimated speeds, that the model set forth by Einstein may have been flawed with out true testing capabilities, there by leaving the topic of FTL open too debate.

Ben Rich and Boyd Bushman have confessed we have these type so of technologies, and if they are using these types of propulsion systems "Who's too say that time doesn't get effected when doing such FTL traversing?" Everything happens in a blink of an eye and the event isn't recorded as anything "Time Consuming/Altered Related?"

I have too believe my hunch is "Yes" we do have these technologies, but then am frustrated as you are Stealthyaroura, because they will never let us civilian's in on the know how to do it. Bummer but true, none the less.

1WW

the problem with having more whistle blowers is that either A) they suddenly die immediately after coming forward or B) they just tease us with enough to make us salivate for more and to also keep their neck out of the noose...

Do I believe that we have this tech? Yep. Do I have any hard proof other than my own viewing of such in operation? Nope.

Are any hard core pseudo-skeptics/debunkers going to accept my testimony? :o Ya think?  8)


seeker

What really annoys me is 99% of the population just don't give a toss about these technologies they don't even know who Ben Rich Boyd Bushman or even Kelly Johnson are let alone what they did who they worked for etc.
all people seem to care about is have i seen Rianna's tit$ out this week or who kim kardashian is shagging. jesus christ! like I give a crap about that garbage, kill me please.!

When you get the like's of Rich and Bushman saying whatever you can imagine it's already been done and it would take an act of god to get these projects into the public eye you have to take that as FACT (well i do) that we have made HUGE leaps in technology and it also may not of all been HUMAN.

the average joe just does not care is not even bothered.
@seeker I agree the risks and the tidbits of info are frustrating as hell But I have to believe like 1WW these technologies exist.
Look at Z's latest thread on that antimatter engine infact ALL the PDF files from NIAC like teleportation to name just one who has even bothered to look?

Like the old saying you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
some aren't even getting to the water! :( sad. so much effort put into this site.

what we need is a small elite group,our own millenium group if you will who can handle the truth and promise to keep it just between ourselves. ;)

Quote from: stealthyaroura on July 19, 2013, 03:42:08 PM
THIS has been on my mind ever since i read about the supposed craft being tested.
what do you think the propulsion is or what effect would cause the observed "blink out leapfrog" effect? sounds incredibly exotic 8) and this was 1985 :o
FTL? bending space time?
cloaking maybe? oh i just want to see it all and touch it!!!I WANT TO SEE IT ALL
The only way this may be possible is to work in that field of study.we need more whistle blowers.
it's just not fair.we get shown stuff that is "state of the art" yeah for 50 years ago :P

IMHO, the verbage for these craft FTL never made any sence to me. FTES " Faster than Eye sight OK. If a craft went into FTL it would be how far away in the blink of an eye. For it to be here one moment and over there the next, I think could be done a lot slower, just too fast for us or our equipment. Go into FTL for 1.5 sec and your on the Moon. FTL within a solar syatem can get one in trouble very quick. I think we need a better term. IMHO

Deuem, that's good.

There is great big area between faster than sound and faster than light.

I like that. Have a bit of the old gold.

i think ftl may be possible but the traction to go ftl is tricky.
in the world we live in.first nobody could go faster than a horse.then we got cars and people said we couldnt go faster than fifty.then we got planes but nobody could go faster than sound.then we got jets.then we couldnt go ftl.in each case we had to improve tech.
if we start with cars.we grab dirt molecules to get traction.then with planes we grab air molecules.smaller than dirt.then with jets with after burners we grab air and add fuel.ie energy.with rockets its almost all energy.then there is my idea of the thing.which grabs ions.ie smaller particles and energy.thats why i believe to go even faster we have to get traction using the higgs.in each case efficientcy increases but traction is achieved with smaller masses and higher energies.ie voltage.the higgs can be grabbed with a billion volts.but to sustain billions of volts the apparatus must be very big to prevent arching of the hv.thats why i believe ftl will be a very large ship.

Even Star Trek used impulse drive when in the solar system :P But even Light Speed drive would take 4.5 years to get to the closest star

Quote from: stealthyaroura on July 19, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
What really annoys me is 99% of the population just don't give a toss about these technologies they don't even know who Ben Rich Boyd Bushman or even Kelly Johnson are let alone what they did who they worked for etc.

That doesn't bother me... DO NOT wake the sheep  we NEED sheep. :P What bothers me is the ones who scream for proof and when ya slap them in the face with it they say "Oh nice... I will look at that later... what did you just say about tits and the Kardashian?"

That is why Pegasus is admin registration...  the SHEEP have facebook where truth is not an issue as long as its a good story that can be tweeted, liked and shared.

I tried...  tried to show people... but I gave up. I am out numbered by the Nassim Haramein's and the Steven Greer's. I don't have the ability nor the inclination to go on the circuit and be a story teller... even if it means good bucks

These guys can make up anything they want and still have their groupies drooling over every word. Natioanl Geographic I used to trust to be THE source of reality... but even they have gone the way of the History Channel and Discovery Channel... "Any good story to get the audience..."

TV shows like Ghost Hunters and UFO Hunters... neither ever caught one yet and the Ghost Hunter's show... those idgits jump in mock fear at every little bump in the night vision.  No one cares about the truth... its all the show that counts

Even in the Gem and Mineral business. When I started collecting rocks and cutting gems, sure there were a few merchants selling fake stuff as real and 'trade names' came about like calling smokey quartz "Smokey Topaz" and selling it to a gullible public.  Today it is worse... Kids are no longer taking up rock collecting so the mineral and gem market has become dominated by what we term the "Healy Feely" crowd...

These people are those that THINK they know about crystals and like UFO's any good story will sell. Today you will see quartz crystals that are actually cut, not natural crystal.. They are died and or coated with titanium and given weird names like Aqua Aura Quartz and a small tumbled stone that is worh .25 cents sells for $9.99 in a little velvet bag to protect the energy.

We called them "Healy Feely" becuae at the gem shows they would come in and run their hands through a box of tumble stones and "feel the crystal energy"  Got news for ya  a tumbled stone is a piece of rock, not a crystal. Only a PURE crytsal will channel energy. This is proven by science since we made crystal radios and ruby rod lasers.

Oddly enough in THIS case man made is better because the material is pure and it is simply made the way nature makes it without the impurities.  You can believe what you want but a crystal is INERT... All it does is channel and amplify the energy of the holder/user and if the crystal is flawed the energy scatters about randomly.

Yeah I will get trolled by some "Healy Feely" that says they know better... but those are the ones that buy organite :P

So what to do? My market for minerals beyond the top specimens is drying up... no new blood... Do I join the crowd and put fancy names on my stuff and sell a 25 cent stone for 10.00?   I might have to otherwise my ferrets will starve... but it galls me that no one cares

Quoteall people seem to care about is have i seen Rianna's tit$ out this week or who kim kardashian is shagging. jesus christ! like I give a crap about that garbage, kill me please.!

LOL I had to look up who that was :P

(http://cdn.everyjoe.com/files/2011/02/rihanna-all-of-the-lights-3.jpg)

QuoteWhen you get the like's of Rich and Bushman saying whatever you can imagine it's already been done and it would take an act of god to get these projects into the public eye you have to take that as FACT (well i do) that we have made HUGE leaps in technology and it also may not of all been HUMAN.

Go to ATS and you will find 100 naysayers saying Ben and Boyd never said it or was kidding. The ONLY benefit I got from ATS was the real insiders sending me tips and links BEHIND THE SCENES because a) they knew I would keep them confidential and b) they don't speak openly on the circuit because they know there is no point. Had it not been for these people I would have given up a long time ago.

In fact I should really be spending more time cultivating those leads but I had hoped to build a team of real trusted investigators to share the email load

Quotethe average joe just does not care is not even bothered.

Only when it effects them directly.

Quote@seeker I agree the risks and the tidbits of info are frustrating as hell But I have to believe like 1WW these technologies exist.
Look at Z's latest thread on that antimatter engine infact ALL the PDF files from NIAC like teleportation to name just one who has even bothered to look?

Remember my TEST?  About 10 people actually tried :P  I never got to PART TWO the space station :P. People don't read documents. In fact I have so many on high tech like a laser at China Lake Navy base that can send electricity to the moon. Exuberant1 did that collecting... he too went POOF

There are so many files that even I haven't read them And same thing happened to Clifford Stone at ATS

But now we have access to all Cliff's files and him :D

QuoteLike the old saying you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
some aren't even getting to the water! :( sad. so much effort put into this site.

Better to have 10 true seekers then 1 million useless eaters :P It is enough that I KNOW... anyone else is a bonus... had a teacher once tell me that if he had just ONE student that truly grasped what he was teaching his life would be complete

It doesn't matter... (if you believe life goes beyond the grave) about the sheep... forget about them, don't waste your time waking them, because all you will have is a bunch of lost sheep that don't know what to do. There time will come

Want to change the world? become a SHEPHERD  lead by example.  What use is educating sheep if there is no alternative? Amy's TAP is a long term Utopian goal... but if the sheep are free NOW who will feed them and protect them?  The problems in the world are the current shepherds.  But while everyone is whining about mind control, Illuminati planning to euthenise half the population and other assorted evil deeds... no one is stepping up to the plate to actually do something. You can't even get people to BOYCOTT EXXON

Quotewhat we need is a small elite group,our own millenium group if you will who can handle the truth and promise to keep it just between ourselves. ;)

Precisely why Pegasus was created :P  But we keep losing the key members

Hey I'm still here! ;D ( not very smart or 'in the know', but here none the less)

;)

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 19, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
Hey I'm still here! ;D ( not very smart or 'in the know', but here none the less)

yeah and your one of 3 in the Secret Room :P


I will post the stuff from IgnoreTheFact later today.... might open a few eyes especially those who remember him from ATS

thats where a super computer with all planets asteroids meteors solar systems galaxies and universes and their orbits would come in handy.

the shortest distance between two points may be a curve?

Quote from: zorgon on July 19, 2013, 08:09:24 PM
Even Star Trek used impulse drive when in the solar system :P But even Light Speed drive would take 4.5 years to get to the closest star

Travel between stars really isn't so much about going really fast (FTL, and a whole lot more about "Time Dilation Management". If we use a drive like the Gravito-Electromagnetic field system I talk about; it isn't hard to accelerate a ship to "Light speed" and beyond. The real issue is; "It took me 6 months to get here and 250 years have passed for the rest of the Universe."

There are existing methods to at least begin to manage Tie Dilation; one is called "frame-dragging". This is a case where we arrange for the deliberate "dragging" of our "own" inertial frame. And, guess what!!! The artificial gravity produced by the field drive provides for some small amount of "dragging". This would allow for a ship, properly equipped, to "defy" the mathematics of Time Dilation. This along with other "passive" effects could provide of kind of "FTL".

This system works it's "magick" by affecting what is termed the "local clock" (your clock). if you are not in perfect synch with "hear and now" there may be a sort of "stutter" effect caused by you slightly "out of synch" presence. Might make for quite the "vision".

no im not nuts.this thread is moving fast.my post was to a comment a few post back.

@zorgon.im interested in the high points of articles but its a tough ride for me personally to read pdfs on my droid.if i had a bigger screen im actually a very fast reader.when i want to i can read a typical book in a day or less.

i do like reading these new techs but they are mostly heing used to distract from the truth.like handing someone a picture of a weedeater motor when somebody ask about the stealth bomber.no insult intended at you or your sources.i just feel the tech is very oldschool being past off to us as cutting edge.

personally my own level of understanding seems to be higher than most.pwm deuem le are the only ones that seem to grasp my theories.im not trying to be an egonut.

there are alot of liars out there.like 99%.when it comes to ufos.thats why i love this place.we dont have any agenda but the truth.

keep the knowledge flowing .we can judge it as it flows.

@anthra.where can i find your theory so i may review?

Reality is based on dream factory lies and deception to protect its true self. The world as most see it is not the world some of us know it REALLY is.

Here's a little something for those who want to know. On any given moment of the day or night, you slip between realities where one has you most the time and the other has an occult predator waiting to unzip your mind and pull you into its spell. You may know it as high weirdness with a what was that moment if you can realize it.

Do you really believe all that you see and have learned to trust is all of it. There's documented proof all around you to simply look and pick it up, turn it around and place that piece in the puzzle for a picture of the hidden realm.

WTF's the use, the planets over come by digital TV role playing game ZOMBIES!!! unable to see past the bright lights dazzling them to refuse knowing anything else but what their 5 senses tell them is real.

:o

So what your saying is that your a figimentation or Robomonts imagination?

:o

Quote from: zorgon on July 19, 2013, 09:26:13 PM
yeah and your one of 3 in the Secret Room :P

Though I was a bit late to the Peggy Forum with association to the living moon, I have always been a member 'Z', and even though you have these juicy morsels of information, you make it more a game than a point of conversation ??? which is very hard to understand.

I have been around from both site's and know a few folks, am getting better at searching archives (Which is a chore on it's own when one does not know how to do this effectively :P ) and I read what is posted with in them and take everything with a grain of salt, for they are forum poster's as anyone else that has access to our forums.   

"Ever think it is how you are with holding and then openly admitting you have such incredible evidence with out showing it or bringing it out to the public for open discussion?" I don't usually post to a thread that is only allowed to be viewed as a read only, which is fine, but having my own personal thoughts and this with in what you provide should be considered 'Someone Interested' not lazy or stupid to the facts.

I don't know JL or BL personally, or anyone in the military that was at Roswell NM for the recovery, I have older military friends that have given me stories I find to be factual based on the timelines and discussion's we have had over incidences, with a bit of research after the matter of discussion, but these are normal, low ranking guy's that were military affiliated with nothing to do but their time in the service. Heck, I have one friend that was on the USS Roosevelt, he was an Ensign, and he has a great tale of his service on it, but I never share it here because A) he was sworn too secrecy and didn't have anyone to tell his tales too except for me that even came close too wanting to listen with earnest and truthful heart. B) He doesn't want to be ridiculed and called Loonie for what he knows as a fact with in his life, and I can associate myself to that kind of mentality.

All things considered, and with your admittance to the "Small Room" only tells me you are thinking less of anyone's ability to even share, have felt this way for sometime now, but I figured it would all come out, after so many years here and on Yahoo groups, which is where I was from the beginning until you finally contacted me to let me know the site was up and running for almost a year by that time. :(

I was invited and now I am shunned , I spoke the truth about certain members and then I was barred, and there were other's that have let me know this wasn't the last time that you would have wanted me out the door of Peggy. I don't understand anything of what you are attempting to do because of the way you are doing it, and it becomes rather a foggy perception of what it is you exactly want.

Either way, small rooms are for few people, I think you find that both controlling and comforting, eh?

1WW

Quote from: robomont on July 19, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
@zorgon.im interested in the high points of articles but its a tough ride for me personally to read pdfs on my droid.if i had a bigger screen im actually a very fast reader.when i want to i can read a typical book in a day or less.

This is why I keep telling people it's not necessary to post entire articles... just pull out the key points :D

Quotei do like reading these new techs but they are mostly heing used to distract from the truth.like handing someone a picture of a weedeater motor when somebody ask about the stealth bomber.no insult intended at you or your sources.i just feel the tech is very oldschool being past off to us as cutting edge.

Only problem is that those documents ARE about the stealth bomber and the secret space station not the weed eater :P

Quotepersonally my own level of understanding seems to be higher than most.pwm deuem le are the only ones that seem to grasp my theories.im not trying to be an egonut.

LE quit wanted account deleted because of a tiff with someone. PWM is MIA at the moment... did he blow himself up with that Nuclear fusion thingy he was working one?  Russo, Dood, Exuberant1, Pimander..  all went POOF  only Russo said goodbye but didn't really explain why

That is no way to run a railroad

Quotethere are alot of liars out there.like 99%.when it comes to ufos.thats why i love this place.we dont have any agenda but the truth.

99% is about right :P

Quotekeep the knowledge flowing .we can judge it as it flows.

...but the brain is flowing like molassase in Antarctica

i did not know that about le.im sad.the guy is brilliant.
@1ww.i didnt know you were banned from here.i never knew such a thing to exist here.ive only seen z edit three post the entire time ive been on this site.

i would definitely like to look at the docs you just mentioned but dont know where to find them.
i think pwm is working if i remember correctly.
i thought i saw a post from pman the other day but i dont see him much.it may have been an old thread.
i wish folks would just speak up if they have a problem.i miss all of them.im sure we could acomadate them somehow.

Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on July 19, 2013, 10:58:20 PM
Though I was a bit late to the Peggy Forum with association to the living moon, I have always been a member 'Z',

yeah you popped in from somewhere back at ATS :P.. attached to Matyas? not sure

Quoteand even though you have these juicy morsels of information, you make it more a game than a point of conversation ??? which is very hard to understand.

When I started the website all the info was posted clear and in order on those pages complete with photos links papers and backup data and updates as I found them.

Today even here people will pop in and say "HEY!! Guess what I found...!" Never even asked if we had covered it already :P

So what to do? Shoot them down and say "Yeah old news see here..." or play the game and repeat old work?

That is why ATS went the route of closing threads  but over there the closing of the thread just became the issue and trolls started hunting people who dared post a similar topic. Even one case that was a new update was treated like that so much so that the new information never made it to the old thread and was lost in the noise

If I was smart I would go back to the old way of only posting stuff on the website... no noise  and at least I know that 35,000ish unique IP's per month are reading it

QuoteI have been around from both site's and know a few folks, am getting better at searching archives (Which is a chore on it's own when one does not know how to do this effectively :P )

Search here.... go to menu page  type in a FEW key words and you will find it  like "NASA bokeh zorgon" will take you to my post on NASA UFO orbs :P

But even back at ATS the easiest way to search was google Example  in google search type this
"FTL_navigator space command zorgon ATS"

I was looking for a key post by this guy "FTL_navigato" that he made in the naval space command thread. Putting those words into google and VOILA  its the top hit in results

Now try this "solar warden ATS  zorgon"

All the first results are my pages on various forums on Solar Warden. Since you were there from the beginning :P you know how old those trreads are

cont

The Winged Horses And The Spaceship,

This was the thread that started it all Matyas put it in skunkworks from the get go because he knew they would anyway... but still right away it was attacked by the Mod Squad.  (he had the title in Hungarian :P And the King Lizard (what a name for a mod :P ) pounced

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread214946/pg1

That was were we talked building the first prototype spaceship. Pegasus was born on Page three  Alred appeared on page 6 :P

Hey all
Now my head hurts. It seems to me that anyone that wants to improve the human race is being bought off and disipearing. Z did i not tell you that the Circus is in town. I do believe that it is happing here. If PWM is gone it is more proof that THEY are trying to shut things down.

Robo get a computer and down load things and print them out. I know that is costly but very inportant info is disapeering fast. I am going tomarrow to get more ink so that I can print out PWM'S stuff.

Z this site has an insider that is part of THEM
I may not post here again until things are figgured out.

Bless
Back

Not been able to follow PRC in much detail over the last 4 months due to various reasons..

But I  would find it hard to believe that all those members have left...

Very unusual...!  :o

 "Ever think it is how you are with holding and then openly admitting you have such incredible evidence with out showing it or bringing it out to the public for open discussion?" I don't usually post to a thread that is only allowed to be viewed as a read only, which is fine, but having my own personal thoughts and this with in what you provide should be considered 'Someone Interested' not lazy or stupid to the facts. "

The Library threads were intended to replace the website and  still leave it at hand to view and comment on in a discussion thread.  If I don't do that the thread very soon gets filled with off topic and irrelevant material

However since only members can see those I think I need to go back to just posting the facts on the website and just discuss it here. I had hoped leaving them parallel would get more exposure. Apparently not  it just seems to annoy people chomping at the bit to make a comment before the OP is even finished :P

QuoteI don't know JL or BL personally, or anyone in the military that was at Roswell NM for the recovery, I have older military friends that have given me stories I find to be factual based on the timelines and discussion's we have had over incidences, with a bit of research after the matter of discussion, but these are normal, low ranking guy's that were military affiliated with nothing to do but their time in the service. Heck, I have one friend that was on the USS Roosevelt, he was an Ensign, and he has a great tale of his service on it, but I never share it here because A) he was sworn too secrecy and didn't have anyone to tell his tales too except for me that even came close too wanting to listen with earnest and truthful heart. B) He doesn't want to be ridiculed and called Loonie for what he knows as a fact with in his life, and I can associate myself to that kind of mentality.

There ya go... most insiders feel the same way  but they want to talk so leave hints. It is then up to me to follow the bread crumbs and see what I can find

QuoteAll things considered, and with your admittance to the "Small Room" only tells me you are thinking less of anyone's ability to even share, have felt this way for sometime now, but I figured it would all come out, after so many years here and on Yahoo groups, which is where I was from the beginning until you finally contacted me to let me know the site was up and running for almost a year by that time. :(

Puppy Poop :P  There are many 'small rooms' here, most I have never had the time to develop and they are ALL listed in the members area and how one gets access. One 'small room' is for the Knights of the Order of the Red Dragon... that is a Medieval group and currently is not active because the only other two members are no longer close at hand... and the Green Knight may have passed away as I have no further contact with him

The Mystic Star Order is for Buddhist Mystics on a serious path... BigFatFurryTexan was a member but he too mysteriously vanished without a trace... Sgt has access only because he is doing volunteer work sorting emails and he has real life secret classification so I can trust him handly emails from sensitive people :D

There is also the Isle of Standauffish wihich I hoped to revive but need money to do it right.  That has nothing to do with Pegasus and is also dormant at the moment... haven't even had time to remake the old pages

John's private Den  was set up for John to invite people to... but he rarely posts here at all because of his health, let alone use his private den. And I think he prefers the battles at places like GLP (who recently banned him for unknown reasons)

QuoteI was invited and now I am shunned ,

Relly? who shunned you?

QuoteI spoke the truth about certain members and then I was barred, and there were other's that have let me know this wasn't the last time that you would have wanted me out the door of Peggy.

No idea what you are talking about ... really  Who are these others and why are you listening to them?  I have had no such conversations. Your mod status was removed at that time because your accounts were compromised

QuoteI don't understand anything of what you are attempting to do because of the way you are doing it, and it becomes rather a foggy perception of what it is you exactly want.

Right now the only real focus I have is to make enough money to pay my bills and get a car so I can do things.

As to Pegasus it was set up as a think tank for people to share ideas and maybe get together to make real projects

But every time we start... it usually falls apart. People still get into personal scuffles and go off in a huff... most ALL those that wanted to be admin as the start have vanished... no explanation why  no email no goodbye possts (cept Little Enki)  For all I know they could be dead...

QuoteEither way, small rooms are for few people, I think you find that both controlling and comforting, eh?

yes small rooms are for select topics... but as I said there is only one that is currently 'active' and that is for my personal mystical/rosicrucian studies.  Tried to present some of that here... all it does is cause fuss :P  Two people actually joined RC but quit soon after

Are you interested in the Medieval reenactment? I am looking to restart the guild... but that is only for interested people who want to actually dress up and go to events. If so the method to apply to any of the private rooms is in the member area :P (I admit I need to update that a bit but since the rooms are empty anyway its really a moot point :P )

We gave Linda and Mikado a private room... didn't stop them from causing grief anyway

The more I think about it the more I see that any forum is a waste of time to share real info and get real projects going.  Our Medieval group worked fine because we had face to face contact. On a forum people are scattered all over the world and all different time zones.  Then people like Deuem are blocked by da gubment. makes it hard to get anything done

the show must go on.

i believe the stress of life is getting to many and they just want a break.just a guess.

my project shall go on and any disappearance by me would probly be due to visiting graybar hotel.so far no invite but i am always looking over my shoulder.if im gone for a period i will contact yall to give a heads up.

i too worry there is a evil presence here lately but not ready to call them out just yet.waiting to have the evidence pile up first.

zorgon.could you go into why le left?
also i like the separate inventors forum but i sometimes get confused if im in it or regular forum as all are on same lineup on right side of screen.

maybe we should have a poll of reasons folks consider leaving here.
where they are spending their time or site they are frquenting

i for one lurk at drudge.blacklisted news. ats.i also post at laserpointer forums.glp.

i would check out other forums and legit news places but i know of no other ones.

i just spoke to my 16yr old daughter and most young kids are into fb.yt.twitter.call of duty.disney channel.they dont really have a desire to learn like we do.its kinda scary but i also dont blame them.the freeway we are on moves fast and furious.i hope someday to get her to come on as member though once she matures more.
where the college braniacs are i do not know but it sure could be advantageous.with the reduction in population and economy may be the real underlying reasons.more research is needed.lol.

Maybe some members are just taking a break..after all it is 20th JULY....

Summer is not really a time for people to spend on forums..

Id suspect some will return Autumn when the nights start to draw in early.

Not sure why they at least wouldn't want to keep checking in...

Are there any forums as good as what we get on PRC without joining forums that contain trolls and spies...

lpf is a forum for laser builders and laser lovers.kinda like a hobby hang out.
this is the only decent place i know of.thats why im asking.not to leave here but to just network and learn.i went to science forums.net and they have alot of shills.glp is insane but outshines ats .i think both of those sites are highly infiltrated by gov.religitards have really ruined them and almost killed ats .almost more than the mods.thats why i try not to post on religious threads here because it distracts from our focus of real scientific research.i think it is the way he gov is killing these sights .probly thru some funding to churches who post on forums.its beginning to put a hurt on glp.it will also hurt us here if it keeps up.

Quote from: robomont on July 20, 2013, 01:57:16 AM
i just spoke to my 16yr old daughter and most young kids are into fb.yt.twitter.call of duty.disney channel.they dont really have a desire to learn like we do.its kinda scary but i also dont blame them.the freeway we are on moves fast and furious.i hope someday to get her to come on as member though once she matures more.

I don't mind the not learning part but they waste the time sharing stories that are false so they ARE leranng but not anything real... and then it gets retweeted as if it was real news. Then they all comment on how wrong or evil it is, never caring for a second about the truth

Quotewhere the college braniacs are i do not know

unemployment line :P  or starbucks

Thanks for your feedback on other forums...I rarely visit any others these days. Esp since getting stopped at GLP...

It is no doubt concerning what Gov spies could be upto..and what may happen for the future, inc here..

One just don't know how much that they may be monitoring members & their computers.

My mind fails to focus very well  due to some problems lately. but  I hope to try and get around to read about your lasar...I am curious
what you are aiming to do with it...& what it can do.. :)

I was spelling laser as lazar....Must be it being similar to Bobs surname  :)

 I myself don't have any answers to any of the reasons why things are as they are; bfft and i conversed quite a bit about several things over the years at spookz, but i noticed a change in him about the same time that he changed his avatar... has prolly been at least a year if not longer since I have heard from him...

tried to get some additional info from Janitor/matyas about the hydrogen peroxide generator setup he gave me along with one or two questions, and the reply was he wanted to enjoy life in the sun with his kids so he didn't have much to talk about since then; haven't seen him around for several months...

pwm is still checking in, just think he has his plate very full at the moment, as I do;

one statement I can make is that I have met Zorgon and John Lear face to face( and the ferrets  8)) so I do know they are real, live, genuine people, not just avatars and words on a computer screen;

the generation x'ers ( all those that were born into the world of cable tv, video games, and computers)  have such a mass of electronic bombardment in their daily lives that they have little desire or drive to see past it or attempt to be more than an end user...

edgar cayce stated that "emptying of self of self" leads to a more enlightened and focused self; one that has little ego but real focus and the ability to see what most cannot; yet the majority are so full of themselves that there isn't any room for anything else...

use the "social networks" to chit chat and ramble or bumble about; use this wonderful place we have here to FOCUS on the pursuit of knowledge and the search for answers;  Z has a treasure trove of info in the archives and the database; I daresay more than enough to answer the majority of questions any here may ask; I would rather concentrate on the documented than on the trivial;

just how many here have looked at Z's test and the answers he posted to it? How many have read Otis T Carr's patent on his 'amusement' device? Or Tesla's flying saucer?

The tech is real; yes, it is hidden, but enough is there, available in bits and pieces to work the puzzle...

enough rambling seeker; be quiet...


seeker

its a divide right now i think.the olders who are retired or retiring have computers.my generation mostly droid.the kids text and fb.in between are minor population.the birth rate in this country isnt a smooth line.it has alot of valleys in it.these valleys separate us into groups of thought.
imho.

being as i border on being an outlaw.my intentions on the laser are simple.control.
turn off street lamps.
wreck cop cars if they chase me through a curve at night.
ignite things without leaving a clue.
blind surveillence cameras and burn out their innards.
stop people from approaching.
communicate over long distances wirelessly.spotlight spotlighters poaching my deer local

blind drones.
and spotlight ufos while they are cloaked.

the distance on my beast isnt enough.
my next one will be green.if i read correctly the diffraction isnt as bad.so i can reach out further in a straight line.blue turns white at distance and spreads out alot.a good straight line is needed to defeat cloaking.that can really get out there.plus it stays true to color over a longer distance.if im correct.but hat purchase is six months to a year from now.right now im getting my funding together for the thing.start work on it next month.hopefully done by september if all goes right.then its on to the mag wheel generator.after xmas.right now its all about the thing.could use more investors.anybody?im pretty sure its gonna work.then we be shitten in high cotton.lol.

Quote from: robomont on July 19, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
@anthra.where can i find your theory so i may review?

Actually most of my theory resides with me, and, unfortunately I haven't written a proper paper as of yet. But, here is a starting point
Frame dragging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame-dragging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame-dragging)
Gravito-Electromagnetic propulsion: http://www.hpcc-space.de/publications/documents/LauncherSymPaper2007-0-42.pdf (http://www.hpcc-space.de/publications/documents/LauncherSymPaper2007-0-42.pdf)
Time dilation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation)
Frame dragging effects are very small, especially with objects with a mass less than a planet. However, the propulsion creates an artificial gravity that can be equal or even larger than Earth's gravity, and thus produce as much, or more frame dragging; thereby offsetting the effects of tie dilation. That's the hypothesis in a nutshell.

There are other "passive" temporal effects that can be exploited. For instance; In "traditional warp theory" it is said that the system compresses space in front, and expands space behind the craft. If we consider traditional Doppler; the perceived sound is compressed in front and expanded behind the moving sound source. We should be able to exploit this and get even better time dilation compensation. All of these effects are going to be small, at least on paper. There is very much unknown about luminal and super luminal physics, things Earth has not had the need to learn or think about before, should be exciting :)

As far as actual FTL goes, this drive system, in theory, can accelerate a ship to super luminal in just over a year. 1 - 2 g constant acceleration = FTL in about a year of cautious acceleration. What this system adds up to is a buildable with current technology low level mechanical FTL suitable for travel within 20 - 50 light years.

I think it needs t be noted that all of the science for this machine is already in the public domain. The ONLY reason we don't have commercial machines now is because they have not been engineered as yet, It should also be construed, IMO, that the Government has had these things for at least 10 years.

Good to read Wise Seekers comments & opinions..and to read that PWMs and hopefully others can still check in PRC...It must have been interesting to Meet "Z" & John to confirm both are for real !

Robo...

Wow !. interesting read....seems like your gettiing prepared to deal with NWOs plans when they begin their evil. agenda... to be a modern Robo Hood...against Robocops  / Robo gods aiming lasers instead of Arrows... :)

Hope that you don't get attention from their spies...and that you  do not get injured in anyway trying to use it or get into any trouble.  :P

astro that cracked me up.
anthra that is what the thing im building does.the ions are energized creating a large kenetic mass surrounding craft.the faster the craft moves then the more mass it has .this creates a kinetic energy shield also.so no worries from micro meteorites.should be testing by the end of september.

well i did a search and it looks like le went to the darkside.sorry to hear it.maybe he will learn the error of his ways and come back.

come on ROBO fess up that laser is for lighting them bifters up. ;)
I agree it's frustrating as hell and I think people are feeling the earth turmoil I know I am,I can't focus.feel mentally blocked.
But as ROBO says the show must go on. aptly put.

Zorgon like Ben Rich said about his work in the DEEP DEEP BLACK it's a lonely place BUT rewarding.
Think of your struggle to enlighten folks like that. if ONE person learns something new that may even change their life (or viewpoint) you have done your job.
yeah I notice members missing I saw LE start to trail off weeks ago his input just slowed.
maybe he's gone to chat with his pal HOBBIT now there was an interesting guy but what a prick ::)
sorry but I said it the guy was so hostile.why?anyhow.moving on.

money bloody money! the be all and end all. you just cannot build that craft without it.
and the craft is doable.

I had an awesome comeback but it vanished. this will have to do.thread derail much? :P

@ZORGON:

Fare enough. I understand the dilemma's of getting the truth out there, only to feel it isn't being utilized as it should be, for me it's more of the learning curve ideologies with in current status quo accepted intellectual processes, and I was unaware of LE being off the Deans list, sad, he was a great mind.

Rest assured that I am a die hard Peggy fan, I have no other sites I frequent, this is due to the reasons we had discussed back in the 'Dark Days' of the other place. I do, from time to time, go to other sites and read what is being said, but nothing compares too what we have hear as far hands on documented Intel, especially with in propulsion field concepts and what TPTB are trying to hide under the cuff, from plain sight , as it were.

On another note, having the threads that are blocked off for thwarting unwarranted information isn't a bad thing, and I can see having them as you do, it really isn't hard to get around to be able to quote , just leave 2-3 windows open on the browser and commence to giving input. All is safe is this way from being a thread of unnecessary rebuttal and useless insights.

Maybe we can just agree too disagree at times, but that isn't my goal and reason for being here. I want to progress with in logical interpretation with in the understanding of what it is a member or Mod is trying to convey, for it may hold a slight piece of the truth's I seek as a diligent and dedicated member. Nothing is a waste of time here my friend, we only have moments of unwanted clarity with in matter's that aren't that significant, being human as it were.

One thing is for sure (And this for all you folks out there that weren't there when Peggy was yet a dream only being discussed.) that you have given this site your heart beat and soul, I know how much Intel you have and I understand the frustration's Zorgon. Back in the day's before Peggy, I remember you openly asking me if I would be interested in such a site created by you and Matyas, and we had quite a few other's from the Dark site that came on the band wagon and now have left apparently. Point being for whatever reason they have left, i.e. health, Family, money, etc., etc., it hasn't got anything to do with you personally and you have done all one could ask, as far as Pegasus Research Consortium and The Living Moon go.

well, with that said, lets get back to the topic at hand, Anthra has some interesting ideas over this FTL concept!! And as usual, we have all the good litigator's here to further discussion.

"Something will give Zorgon, wait and see, I can feel it in my Spidy Senses!!" :P


@Anthra

Have you ever looked into the "Morphing phase of atomic structure's" ? It is an article that was made discussing what happens to the molecular malleability of Nano incorporated morphing due to FTL recombination's. They have basically rewritten the book on what happens to energy once it is spent on a Nano-technological chart.

It is was once thought that if we were to submit a molecule/Atom to something that once the event was over, the specimen was there by destroyed, this has been found to be false, for the research and tests show that not only does the specimen not disintegrate, it Rejuvenates back to it's prior existence, there by thwarting the Death throws we once thought.

This goes much deeper than FTL by the way, this is also supporting the concept of "Energy never dies, it is just temporarily mutated/transformed, and then recombined back to that of what it once was."

When I was doing research on "Spherical Capacitance and resistance" I ran across a whole slough of different research that was so fascinating and very much up and in the line you are discussing for at least the potential being there.

Though we find it comforting to use the word 'Gravity' as it's what we are taught to acknowledge it as, we have to step back just for a thoughtful 'Full Picture Analogy' a Gander if you will, if one contemplates what gravity truly is, we would realized that it is a form of Static electricity, humans experience slight jolt's walking over carpet, and why? because we are the conductor's. At approximately 75 Kj per static shock potential, we have enough charge in us to coincidentally ignite an entire pay load of volatile fuels, i.e. J1/2, one would think that after the energy was released, the event would be over, but it sin't, we then go into the Doppler effect from said explosion, and from there, into the energized particles from said explosion, and from there.....etc., etc.,

Where we once thought (Scientifically) that the transference of FTL would be 1,2,0... They are now rewriting this case as a formula as 1,2,3,1..... They call this the ARC of FTL and energy usage.  There by and coincidentally reverting the once spent energy molecule/Atom back to it's prior existence. ;)

This research is also supporting the 3-D Universe conceptual thinker's as well as proof that there may actually be something called 'Reincarnation' with in the Human Energy. 

I haven't spoken to the researcher's of these fields for sometime, and you may be able too find some of this topic with searches such as "Morphing Molecules/Atoms" or "ARC within the FTL Range", bit when I received my discussion, I had emailed them and they replied quite quickly too my request, which is rare, and if they give me permission, I will give you what I got and share from there. ;)

I also have a few log's of this information with in the pages of the inventor's Groups area, I have never created a thread for it because of the information that is really juicy was given to me under the agreement it was confidential, may be they have changed their minds by now, but, would help you farther your understanding with in Morphing energy with in Nano Confinement FTL Scenario's.

Will have to get back too you on this, and if I can share it, it will be done. ;)

With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher

Quote from: zorgon on July 19, 2013, 09:26:13 PM
yeah and your one of 3 in the Secret Room :P

There's a secrete room ? I haven' found it yet but I will look harder.

Z; I ask, how are people going to do things that take a billion dollars to get off the ground? Most of all the goodies here would take me 100 lifetimes of income to just pay for the paint.

When people get involved with projects that are cost prohibbited then they lose interest. I know I look at everything I can and most of the time say, Ok, that's interesting, Can I do it? No! Move on..If a project is not in the realm of the old pocketbook, then why ask why. And once you have enough money, a person does not worry about the little things like paying for energy. Only the poor ones do. And those are the people who don't have the cash to make anything work.

Look at Robo, he is trying his best on a project with dirt for money. If that was a gov job he would have a team of Engineers and an open check book.

What I think is needed are smaller things to do, baby steps for the poor. If you got more than 10 mil in the bank then your not poor, I guess I am still poor today. People need things they can grasp and get results.  Like the lifters and other projects us poor folk can do. Maybe even cheaper projects or work more in teams.

Deuem

Took me 5 log ons to get in tonight....

I remember hearing some strange noises in the basement.

After much investigation we discovered a secret room behind the tumble dryer?
I pushed my wife forward into the darkness.. AND.. Then we stopped.

The door crumbled in as she rushed it...


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Never been in since.  ;D

Quote from: zorgon on July 10, 2013, 10:51:25 AM
When we were at ATS Beth(undo) told me a story and her husband confirmed it... basiclally he saw a huge triangle... in 1985

Hill AFB, Utah 1985
During war games at Hill AFB, Utah, I was standing out on the flightline, guarding the perimeter, the entry-access control point. The rest of the base was in black out conditions, with black plastic over the windows of the buildings. All of the sudden,  an aircraft or an airship was above me, of unknown origin. It was the biggest aircraft I have ever seen, completely silent and moved approximately ten miles an hour, almost floating. It was triangular, no visible engines, no markings, gun metal black.

It essentially looked like it could fly in space.  And when it accelerated, it leaped frog; that it is to say, it blinked out and reappeared farther away. It basically disappeared when it accelerated.

BV

Now when the following video was shown on Fox TV in Florida, he called me excitedly and said;

"THAT"S IT! That's what I saw in 85, only it was much bigger"

Pay attention to what the NASA guy is saying  Beth transcribed it... look at it and read between the lines

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Transcript of Video
by Beth Vegh, Pegasus

One day Air Force pilots will blast off from US bases and reach their targets, flying six times the speed of sound.  The Air Force just completing a successful test flight that can make this simulation a reality.  It's an experimental plane using a new engine that not only burns its fuel but it blows itself up for greater propulsion.

NASA analyst, aviation consultant, Ken Christiansen my guest now.

Reporter (Bill):  Ken, good morning.
Ken:  Mornin' Bill
Bill: In english now, not in science talk,
Ken: (chuckles)
Bill:  How does it work?
Ken:  Very, very complicated.  Ah, basically ah, as we transcended from one area to another, from jets to uh, scramjets and rockets, this is more of an explosion within the combustion chamber.  A series of very small explosions or large explosions but pulse up to maybe a thousand a second and that will, just like the jetson cars that accelerated you would hear the pulsing umm..much like that.
Bill: Check that out. You see that go off the runway?
Lady in background: hmph
Bill:  It was gone. What would this do for aviation, Ken?  If we can do it succesfully?
Ken:  I think as you go through the uh different technologies, what what really, this is gonna be an enabler to go in the Mach V to Mach X regime
Bill: Which is how fast?
Ken:  Ah, very fast.
Bill:  That three thousand miles an hour, what is that?
Ken: About three thousand um, you're talking about 2300 miles at Mach 3, so, just under, just under 10,000, within that range.
Bill: So you can take off, you can take off from a runway -- let me be sure I get this right -- fly it at six times the speed of sound and then come back home again?
Ken:  Yes, much like the shuttle.  The shuttle goes up and comes back as an orbiter. This vehicle would actually be able to take off from a runway or maybe uh a modified launch pad and then return like an aircraft.
Bill:  How, how does a human being stand that ...at six times the speed of sound?  What, what, what would that feel like?
Ken: It's, it'll be gradual.  A human can't that immediate uh, acceleration, so much like the space shuttle, the existing space shuttle, the accelerate from, or they leave the pad at zero and then go up to 17,500 miles an hour to reach orbital velocity.  To go into uh, into space, but that's a gradual. In the shuttle's situation it takes about 9, 9 and a half minutes to uh to accelerate to that speed.
Bill: You need the, the equipment to be able to stand it too.  How, if if it could be done, what would it cost?
Ken:  Uh, that's TBD at this point. The monies that I uh read about on the, when I researched this item, um, it's it's in the millions but this will clearly go into the billions as this, as this is developed.  Air Force has been doing it.  Darpa's been doing it.  Um NASA, uh Dryden Flight Research Center in the uh, does it.
Bill: Yeah uh everyone does it yeah.  Wonder what Wilbur and Orville are thinking about this right now. (laughs) uh huh, cool.
Lady in background: (laughs)
Bill: Thank you, Ken. Ken Christiansen. The future, someday.
Ken: You're welcome, Bill
Lady in background: 10,000 miles an hour
Bill: (whistles)
Lady: That's NY to LA in 20 minutes (snaps her fingers).  How'd you like that?  I'm in.
Bill: I like it!
Lady: Even me. Even I'd get on that flight.


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nice one buddy,Glad you popped by to show you're still around.
any gossip for us to chew over?developments?