hey Z..did ya get to this one.. ;)..i'm only askin cause i have heard your view on mufon ;D
UFO-related topics at the 2013 MUFON Symposium in Las Vegas.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/20/physicist-eric-davis-mufon-symposium_n_3620126.html
Eric Davis, Physicist, Explains Why Scientists Won't Discuss Their UFO Interests
Posted: 07/20/2013 10:13 am EDT | Updated: 07/20/2013 4:28 pm EDT
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For a very long time, the scientific community has been wary of studying UFOs, and the scientists themselves hesitate to talk about their beliefs of unexplained aerial phenomena.
But that attitude is changing, and many scientists are joining the discussion without fear of ridicule.
"UFOs are real phenomena. They are artificial objects under intelligent control. They're definitely the craft of a supremely advanced technology," says physicist Eric Davis, http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/team/eric-davis/ a researcher of light-speed travel.
Davis, a research physicist at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Austin, studies propulsion physics, http://www.technewsdaily.com/18427-warp-drives-wormholes-ftl.html which he hopes will one day allow humans to travel easily and quickly through our galactic neighborhood.
VIDEO: Eric Davis explains how humans will be able to travel through space at faster-than-light speed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/20/physicist-eric-davis-mufon-symposium_n_3620126.html
He's aware of the public perception -- mostly from skeptics and debunkers -- that no legitimate scientists would ever touch the subject of UFOs.
"They're wrong, naive, stubborn, narrow-minded, afraid and fearful. It's a dirty word and a forbidden topic. Science is about open-minded inquiry. You shouldn't be laughing off people. You should show more deference and respect to them ... Scientists need to get back to using the scientific method to study things that are unknown and unusual, and the UFO subject is one of them."
Davis is one of several scientists who are presenting their views this weekend on a variety of UFO-related topics at the 2013 MUFON Symposium in Las Vegas.
http://www.mufonsymposium.org/?fp_type=speaker
The physicist, who recently won an award from the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2012-3860
for his study, "Faster-Than-Light Space Warps, Status and Next Steps," knows many colleagues who quietly study UFOs.
"There are scientists who are aware of evidence and observational data that is not refutable. It is absolutely corroborated, using forensic techniques and methodology. But they won't come out and publicize that because they fear it. Not the subject -- they fear the backlash from their professional colleagues. The impact on their career might be detrimental and they'd get bad publicity.
"It's not an acceptable, funded line of research. The National Science Foundation does not accept UFOs as a subject for scientific study."
It may come as a surprise that many scientists have been interested in UFOs for decades.
For 20 years, astronomer J. Allen Hynek was the U.S. Air Force scientific consultant on UFOs during its famous Project Blue Book http://www.archives.gov/foia/ufos.html
UFO study that ended in 1969.
Watch this 1977 video of Hynek talking about astronomers and UFOs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Je3vlCAltI
Davis believes that the domain for UFO investigations doesn't really belong in the hands of scientists.
"It's the domain of military intelligence," he suggests. "The fact that [unknown] craft are flying around Earth is not a subject for science -- it's a subject for intelligence-gathering, collection and analysis. That's because UFOs are not a natural phenomenon, and that's what science studies."
While I would applaud any scientist who would openly discuss these phenomena, I can see a bit of bias.
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"UFOs are real phenomena. They are artificial objects under intelligent control. They're definitely the craft of a supremely advanced technology," says physicist Eric Davis, http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/team/eric-davis/ (http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/team/eric-davis/) a researcher of light-speed travel.
Who the hell said our technology was supremely advanced? The fact is that most ET's visiting Earth are barely advanced. Earth already has all the pieces, all the arts to build low-level FTL ships and reach out 10+ ly.
Your biggest problem is that none of you are aware of the state of technology, only small bits. Kind of like the proof you want that ET is real.
/rant
Quote from: Anthra on July 21, 2013, 10:43:03 PM
While I would applaud any scientist who would openly discuss these phenomena, I can see a bit of bias.
Who the hell said our technology was supremely advanced? The fact is that most ET's visiting Earth are barely advanced. Earth already has all the pieces, all the arts to build low-level FTL ships and reach out 10+ ly.
Your biggest problem is that none of you are aware of the state of technology, only small bits. Kind of like the proof you want that ET is real.
/rant
Rather we have the tech or not is not the problem, it is the millions or billions of dollars to get it going at the person level. If my next car had FTL, it would be really nice but it doen't. I can't even afford to build a simple car from scratch. Can anyone here. It would take years and tons of money. When I say scratch, I mean make every part, buy only raw materials.
If the ETs have craft, they must do it as a group. For anyone person to do it is almost impossible....
I do agree on the fact, that just because they are here does not mean they are more advanced than us. They may be even less advanced. Depends on your meaning of advanced.. A simple combustion engine may be 100 time harder to build and design than a FTL craft. I would have to look at them side by side and do a report. They may be so simple to build we would laugh at the tech. Even a ball point pens tech may be harder..
The fact that he states that UFOs are craft is a bad sign, as it looks like he is just looking for confirmation of his opinion instead of really studying the phenomena and accepting other possibilities.
most physicist know but they dont want to lose their jobs or funding.the math is simple.especially for them if theyre worth their salt.
ftl may be harder but not the simple saucer.imho
Quote from: robomont on July 22, 2013, 02:00:15 PM
most physicist know but they dont want to lose their jobs or funding.the math is simple.especially for them if theyre worth their salt.
ftl may be harder but not the simple saucer.imho
I don't know Robo, If one can break gravity then where is the speed limit. Even Light is subject to gravity. The real problem then might just be how to stop.If you were at FTL and turned on the gravity, you should be torn apart. Oops, don't slam on the gravity brakes...This reminds me about driving on crystal clear Ice with bald tires. Yea you can start and go fast but try and do anything normal.. Woopeee!
i will have to agree deuem.as mch as i think about speed.i dont spend alot of time thinking about slowing down.my guess would be accelerate halfway there then decelerate the other half.maybe thats what the comment about tr3b.meant.they havent found its top speed.i read that some where.it would have to be gradual.we know that.lol
.my guess its got to do with that glowing shield of plasma that surrounds them.i think its multifunctional like most everything i think comes from "them".
maybe they just flip the craft and kick on the thrusters or mercury engine.
Ok, let me take another step down that rabbit hole, Without gravity is there acceleration and deceleration? I wonder how could you tell with out looking out the window. It might just be stop and go! More or less instant..
Quote from: deuem on July 22, 2013, 05:07:07 PM
Ok, let me take another step down that rabbit hole, Without gravity is there acceleration and deceleration? I wonder how could you tell with out looking out the window. It might just be stop and go! More or less instant..
Now that's a very interesting question.
Have some virtual gold. :)