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EDWARD SNOWDEN: Tells about THE KILLSHOT; SOLAR-FLARE 'KILLSHOT' Says CATACLYSM IMMINENT - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLYgH6h5JNE)

Posted By: Seawitch
27 July 2013

Edward Snowden, NSA Whistleblower, speaking from Sheremetyevo Airport's Hotel Novotel, revealed the CIA's Project Stargate was a complete success. (Photo: The Internet Chronicle)

MOSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, hacker-fugitive and former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor, revealed Tuesday that


Documents provided by Snowden prove that, as of 14 years ago, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) remote viewers knew that the event was inevitable. Ever since, the world's governments have quietly been trying to prepare for the sweeping global famine to result.

Speaking from his room at Sheremetyevo Airport's Hotel Novotel, Snowden revealed that government preparations for September's catastrophic solar flares have been "to only limited avail." The flares' results, he said, are known casually throughout the global intelligence community as "the killshot."

Remote viewers employed by the CIA's Project Stargate use their ability to perceive geographically and chronologically distant events to protect America.

Since 1999 they have known about the solar-flare event but have been threatened into silence by enforcers on the secret government's payroll.

As a part of hiring Snowden as a contractor, the NSA granted the 30-year-old access to all communications on earth. Now he has provided The Internet Chronicle with top-secret Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) documents outlining just how terrible the solar flares' results will be.


In just two months, "the killshot" is set to disable all electronic food and water delivery systems.


Ever since the late 20th century, hundreds of millions of people have begun to rely on technological automation to enable their very lives. Solar flares release electromagnetic pulses, hazardous to electronic circuits. The smallest electronic circuits, such as those in computers' central processing units, will be the most vulnerable.

Snowden said FEMA and the National Disaster Reduction Center of China have been taking steps for 14 years in light of the findings of Project Stargate. FEMA's own documents, provided by Snowden, lay out how the organization plans to round up tens of millions of the poorest Americans for housing at secure locations "to better facilitate feeding and provision of consumer goods."

Snowden, for years a CIA contractor, released testimonials from hundreds of remote viewers. Many of those remote viewers are still on the payroll of the governments of the United States and the Russian Federation.

Those testimonials, though written independently by the analysts, are comprised of 4,472 pages, every single one of which, alarmingly, evince Snowden's account.


said Snowden.

"The Americans whose lives are most at risk are the elderly and the infirmed, those who depend on technology to enable their receiving home care or life-sustaining medical treatment."


Throughout the 1970s and the 1990s, Russia and the United States were desperate to track and monitor the construction and maintenance of each other's nuclear silos. The nations' governments openly admitted having poured billions of dollars into the training of elite teams of remote viewers.

With their powers, the remote viewers were able to deter nuclear launches and, ultimately, bring an end to the Cold War. In the mid-'90s, the CIA simply pretended to close its remote-viewing program, so that it could operate more effectively.

Snowden said he hopes that his coming forward will allow Project Stargate's participants to be able to live normal, open lives again, "instead of as circus animals, instead of as freaks."

He added, "[Significant others of Project Stargate employees] have to get Q clearances just to cohabitate with, without even marrying, their loved ones. That's tantamount to slavery."


That price, said Snowden, proved a leading factor in his decision to come forward to the press – about both the global Holocaust to ensue, as well as NSA analysts' power, on the slightest whim, to listen to the phone calls of any person on earth.



Zorgon's fine thread that went sideways   :P

Ed Dames and the Kill Shot (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1127.0)

So here's Snowden "revealing" (AGAIN!) stuff that was out there for the astute observer....

And I wonder if this is fear mongering, set up for a false flag, or what.  IS it "unavoidable?"

He sure managed to get an eclectic assortment of info, didn't He?

One thing we can rely on for sure over this whole Snowden association and prediction arena is that there 'ARE' serious ramification's with in CME's (Coronal Mass Ejection's) from our Suns surface, we have seen the debilitating effects before on our planet, but this was at a time where technology was at it's infancy.

Back in the late 1950's and early 1960's, there was a gubment research secretive test taking nuclear devices and detonating them with in our Ionosphere creating a shock EMF charge across the planets ionospheric protection layer's, so I would have to agree I do see a pattern of these event's being accepted as common fact, and possibly covered up by TPTB for societal unrest if it were to get out and be MSM acknowledgement, which would cause a form of chaos with those out there incapable of corrective thinking patterns.

The project mentioned above was called "Project Starfish Prime" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime):

Quote"Previous high-altitude nuclear tests: YUCCA, TEAK, and ORANGE, plus the three ARGUS shots were poorly instrumented and hastily executed. Despite thorough studies of the meager data, present models of these bursts are sketchy and tentative. These models are too uncertain to permit extrapolation to other altitudes and yields with any confidence. Thus there is a strong need, not only for better instrumentation, but for further tests covering a range of altitudes and yields."[3]

and has quite a shadier side too these events even happening with out public knowledge, radiation fall out was Global when they did these test, and what damage it has caused is anyone's guess. But is a real case scenario.

I don't know of the whens of these solar events taking place, only know they are inevitable, and unstoppable. It will cripple our Global technological prowess with in mere seconds. This is for sure.

Provided this event happen's any time soon, with no other plan in place for protection.

1WW

I have heard of the killshot by Major Ed Dames and did not believe it.  Having recently went to the Internet Chronicle on another one of Snowden's revelations, "UFO's" and looked at some of the Internet Chronicles other stories...I am suspicious of anything put out by the Internet Chronicle.  Of course it will be hard to prove what is being said is true until that time.

On this one I am throwing a flag on the play simply because of the source.  (my opinion of course).  I will do some more digging to see if I am wrong.  If I am, I will reverse my opinion.

Starfish Prime - Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime)

Starfish Prime was a high-altitude nuclear test conducted by the United States of America on July 9, 1962, a joint effort of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency (which became the Defense Nuclear Agency in 1971).

Launched via a Thor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM-17_Thor) rocket and carrying a W49 thermonuclear warhead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon) (manufactured by Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory) and a Mk. 2 reentry vehicle, the explosion took place 250 miles (400 km) above a point 19 miles (31 km) southwest of Johnston Island in the Pacific Ocean. It was one of five tests conducted by the USA in outer space as defined by the FAI. It produced a yield equivalent to 1.4 megatons of TNT.



The basics of the Teller–Ulam design for a thermonuclear weapon. Radiation from a primary fission bomb compresses a secondary section containing both fission and fusion fuel. The compressed secondary is heated from within by a second fission explosion.



Aftereffects
While some of the energetic beta particles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_particle) followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the earth.

There was much uncertainty and debate about the composition, magnitude and potential adverse effects from this trapped radiation after the detonation.

ETA: In 2013, a transient third radiation belt, discovered by the Van Allen Probes, was reported by NASA. The third belt was observed for four weeks until it was destroyed by a powerful interplanetary shock wave from the Sun.

The weaponeers became quite worried when three satellites in low earth orbit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_earth_orbit) were disabled.




Seven satellites failed over the months following the test as radiation damaged (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hardening) their solar arrays (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaic_module) or electronics, including the first commercial relay communication satellite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_satellite), Telstar.

Detectors on Telstar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar), TRAAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAAC), Injun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injun_(satellite)), and Ariel 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_1) were used to measure distribution of the radiation produced by the tests.

In 1963, Brown et al. reported in the Journal of Geophysical Research that Starfish Prime had created a belt of MeV electrons, and Wilmot Hess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmot_N._Hess) reported in 1968 that some Starfish electrons remained for five years.

Quote from: spacemaverick on August 06, 2013, 07:56:39 PM

I have heard of the killshot by Major Ed Dames and did not believe it.  Having recently went to the Internet Chronicle on another one of Snowden's revelations, "UFO's" and looked at some of the Internet Chronicles other stories...I am suspicious of anything put out by the Internet Chronicle.  Of course it will be hard to prove what is being said is true until that time.

On this one I am throwing a flag on the play simply because of the source.  (my opinion of course).  I will do some more digging to see if I am wrong.  If I am, I will reverse my opinion.

Just curious spacemaverick, are you "throwing a flag" on this one, because you do not accept Snowden's statements about his first whistle-blow reelative to the NSA? Or, do you think he was initially telling facts relative to his own NSA experience then, but now is either lying, or he doesn't know the truth about "Killshot"??

My thoughts on Snowden..................the USG would not be intent on silencing him, if there was no truth to what he has said! I believe the USG would kill him directly if they could. And relative to the NSA thing, it hasn been pretty much proven/accepted, that Snowdwn's whistle-blowing claims of NSA spying on Americans, and the world, are in-fact true.

While I know the "Killshot" information presented in this thread is a "stretch" from his earlier releases, and a stretch for most of us, how can we not give his statements about "Killshot" similar "credence"?????

WOW!!! What a circumstance (EMP/Killshot) for this world, even if remotely possiblble - a fact we have all been aware of for some time anyway. Is there de-facto proof that remote viewing works, even into the future and specific times/dates?? If there is, then would that lend credence to Snwden's statements. If there is, doncha think RV would be at the top of NSA's "tool list"?

So, what we really need on this, is the statements of others in NSA that could confirm Snowden's statements, if they are in fact true. But then, that would require more whistle-blowing wouldn't it!!  :o

Not questioning Snowden but questioning the source.  The NSA spying and spying by others no matter what country has always been there and probably always will be.  The source "Internet Chronicle" also brought forth Snowden information regarding UFO's and when I went to try and find other sources, those sources quoted the "Internet Chronicle."  The stories were almost the same wording.  Some of this regarding the "killshot" (wording) sounds like it came almost verbatim from the Major Ed Dames story.  That's what makes me suspicious of it.  Just my humble opinion.

If You were a gov't that wanted to have a Snowden event "reveal" things to increase fear, wouldn't You pretend to want to "get the bastard?"  I have seen nothing but posturing.

"OMG!  He's got info!  And He's going to USE it!  We MUST GET THE TRAITOR!"  And, ok...

So that will be it.

This my opinion, and strictly nothing more; it is bovine feces as far as it being material revealed by Snowden; the killshot has been in public domain for many many years...

as far as the internet chronicles, they are a parrot site; consider there being multiple flags on this play; Snowden didn't tell us a damn thing about the Nsa that hasn't been public knowledge, either;

the whole point of the matter is called spin,spin, spin; as Z has already stated:SETUP.


seeker

agreed .spin.
so if we get a cme in sept.then i will put faith in snowden and men who stare at goats.it will be too late but our gov will have no power.six one way.half dosen the other.just in case.it was nice knowing yall.lol

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 06, 2013, 10:47:09 PM
If You were a gov't that wanted to have a Snowden event "reveal" things to increase fear, wouldn't You pretend to want to "get the bastard?"  I have seen nothing but posturing.

"OMG!  He's got info!  And He's going to USE it!  We MUST GET THE TRAITOR!"  And, ok...

So that will be it.

I would say this might be a good possibility.  Remember Rahm Emmanuel saying that a good politician never lets a tragedy go to waste?  Well some stuff got revealed and now they must make use of it to further their agenda.  You can't put the spying on Americans back in the hole, so let's spin some fear to further the big picture of what we want.  Who's going to stop us?

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 06, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
So here's Snowden "revealing" (AGAIN!) stuff that was out there for the astute observer....

And I wonder if this is fear mongering, set up for a false flag, or what.  IS it "unavoidable?"

He sure managed to get an eclectic assortment of info, didn't He?

Spot on, Am!
If say I worked for a Letter Organisation researching/making Widget Z, the actual project would be compartmentalised and restricted.

Case in point: I am a Physicist working on the next Warp Drive. I am assigned to the Drive Coil Team. I have no knowledge about any other part of the device, and cannot find any information on that subject.

Now take Snowden: He was supposedly a consultant. How did he obtain information on such a diverse plethora of secret projects? He wouldn't even know the procedures to begin trying to access such information!

Scenario 1: He genuinely believes that he is leaking this information and that his expertise (Or blind luck) allowed him to access the information. [But he was really being used as a vehicle for such dissemination of false information].

Scenario 2: He is doing it knowingly for some monetary compensation.

It all comes down to two plans:
1. Keeping the FB/Twitter/Groupie crowd brain's busy with an overload of gibberish.
2. Entrapping genuine researchers into thinking that the Gubment Computer Systems are insecure [thereby ensnaring them if they try utilising that perceived weakness] and/or sending these genuine researchers down a blind alley.
As the old adage states: It is harder to unlearn what you have learned

Or if you are Yoda: Harder it is, to unlearn what you have learned  :)

Yawl are forgetting the OBVIOUS :P

Snowden worked for the NSA... the department SPYING on US :D  That means ANYTHING he has on UFO's, Killshots, Chemtrails, HAARP, Jesus working for the Mossad, etc... comes from....

US!! :P

Seriously  you guys have been around long enough to know that the government is highly compartmentalized. There is no way one young new kid on the block would have knowledge in all those areas.

Snowdens ONLY PURPOSE was to reveal to the public that they were INDEED spying on us, something we have said for years.  All Snowden did was CONFIRM it to the average SHEEPLE.. who then dutifully like the sheep they are showed their outrage and tweeted it all over the web... making the Politians have to do something...

Well they did... they voted almost unanmously that it is OKAY for the NSA to continue... END OF STORY

So... will they 'get' Snowden? Maybe... or he will end up like Gary McKinnon...  just swept away and forgotten :D


The whole thing was a CONTROLLED RELEASE to force Congress to make it official  and they did, both Democrats and Republicans voting together that the spying is necessary for our security

As for the Kill Shot

Ed Dames is a shady character... when Stargate 'shut down" (went private) he was involved with PsiTech...  Shortly after PsiTech won a 4 million dollar law suit against him...

Remote Viewing the future is the same thing as using the Looking Glass :P You see many POSSIBLE futures... not ONE absolute future.

The concept of the Looking Glass was to study those possible futures and see if  there was a way to avoid the bad ones.

Now how funny would it be to all the HAARPies out there if HAARP Network could actually put up a shield around the planet?

What if all the metals being seeded into the upper atmosphere and low earth orbit that the Chemtrail crowd is crying about actually will aid in the shield?

Oddly enough... I have documents from military and NASA sources that say just that ;)

But heck... what do I know?

::)

There will be no Kill Shot in September 2013....

It is not convenient for me so I won't allow it :P

Testing the water.
Gee, Zorgs knows you can't have that much knowledge because of compartmetalisation, he is telling everyone!  ;D
Next time we will make our story more elaborate.
On and on, an endless cycle of deceit.
Maybe the Senate should pass a unanimous vote: Yes, we are payed whores!

Just another thought of possibility on this.........the gov. wants snowden so they can shut him up. Now, with his Russian asylum, they cannot do that. So, what is their best alternative? TOTALLY DISCREDIT HIM!

How to do that, and do it quickly? Pick some weird but plausable thing that can peak populous interest, give it a "soon to happen" specific date, and make it a "story" of another Snowden release. Then, on that specific date, when the "thing" doesn't happen, Snowden is totally discredited, and no one will believe anything he says from then on, on that basis.   

Pretty simple, HUH! If we can't get him back, make him appear to be a blathering idiot!!  :o

I just offer that as a plausable possibility. Actual results will teach!

Hehehe I have a prediction for September 2013 ...

ED DAMES GO'S DOWN IN FLAMES

C..

Quote from: spacemaverick on August 07, 2013, 07:32:20 AM
I would say this might be a good possibility.  Remember Rahm Emmanuel saying that a good politician never lets a tragedy go to waste?  Well some stuff got revealed and now they must make use of it to further their agenda.  You can't put the spying on Americans back in the hole, so let's spin some fear to further the big picture of what we want.  Who's going to stop us?

I think They PLANNED Snowden. He didn't reveal ANYTHING.  They like to show Us what They're doing knowing We can't do anything - and adding embellishments that They laugh at when We believe.

He's being used as a SCARE TACTIC.

He's being used to set up the next false flag.

Yes, z.  He is fishier that ANY catch from the sea.

Here is a video claiming InternetChronicle.su is a "vicious internet Hoaxing/Punking website... again, Project Stargate mentioned.

Pot calling the kettle black?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2xRQ2GD4X0


Spacecraft Sees Giant 'hole' In The Sun |Edward Snowden- a series of solar flares- July 28-2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2xRQ2GD4X0)

Published on Jul 29, 2013
http://www.chronicle.su/news/edward-s...
http://www.adguk-blog.com/2013/07/edw...
http://investmentwatchblog.com/edward...
http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/internat...

MOSCOW, Russia -- Edward Snowden, hacker-fugitive and former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor, revealed Tuesday that a series of solar flares is set to occur in September, killing hundreds of millions of people. Documents provided by Snowden prove that, as of 14 years ago, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) remote viewers knew that the event was inevitable. Ever since, the world's governments have quietly been trying to prepare for the sweeping global famine to result.



and this comment:

spiritmoonwalker
August 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM · Reply

I am a remote viewer and know for a fact that the visions, and so on come in the form of prophetic vision (in the end RV is the modern name for prophetic vision)..it is never what it seems..it is always contorted and in prophetic form; something like a dream format..

Anyone who knows about Prophetic vision knows that it takes years and years of practice and training from masters to be any good at discerning what the visions really mean and that it is almost impossible to get dates and times correctly..Very few in a lifetime can do this...Remote viewers can get an idea but that is as close as it gets..

Also, one of the problems with RV is that once a person sends out a wave of ideas anyone else can pick-up on it and think it is there's but in the end it is all coming from that first remote viewers vision sending out that wave....So thousands seeing a vision may be stemming from just the one vision...and that first vision may have been created by the person themselves having read about old prophecies..soooo...

All prophetic visions occurring in the same moment can be viewed as truth...anything outside that time line should be questioned..How to know this is practically impossible.

What I can tell you is that the future can always be changed and is never a sure thing. Every moment is a chance to change tomorrow..time in the end is an illusion and if you believe something and put your attention to it, you give it energy to create itself and be a aprt of your experience...you decide where to put your attention and what you choose to create..

Be smart...RV stuff has a lot of truth to it but is like a dream world and is simply a warning to something that can be changed or shifted..not many really understand the truth of the dimension of RV..and hence we get mistakes and misunderstandings..


Truth??
Many indigenous prophecies unconnected around the world have spoken of our times\disasters\ for hundreds of years of these same disasters spoken of late...I myself have had these visions of a sequence of happenings coming foretelling of the big bang...

I saw the economic crash as it happened, and others stuff...the tsunamies, the weather shifts..all have occurred more or less in a time frame shown to me but never as it really was...this last ( disaster talked of as a solar flare) I also saw but again, it is in dream form so what exactly is it telling? we can never truly know since we have the power to create and why visions are so ethereal and unclear...

Time will tell...you decide and act upon what you choose to believe and in the end it will be what you choose it to be...

Be wise, be smart..if you so fear it then look at why..man has lived for thousands of years without technology so why such a fear? maybe it is pointing to a serious issue we need to see?

...maybe it is telling us that the way we choose to be is unsustainable and must shift?...wake up people...see all this for what it really is...
Unconcerned....S.

Who is Snowden providing these documents TO?

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 07, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
Who is Snowden providing these documents TO?

I would wager a guess at being no-one myself Amy other than what Zorgon stated as how congress voted "A Ok we will Spy" ;)

Quote from: Somamech on August 07, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
I would wager a guess at being no-one myself Amy other than what Zorgon stated as how congress voted "A Ok we will Spy" ;)

Even the FOIA doesn't apply to this guy, as late as June 21, 2013, the request was declined to on going investigation proclamations:

QuoteThe military record requested pertaining Mr. Snowden is being withheld in it's entirety. Accordingly, FOIA Exemption 7(A) allows an agency to withhold records included in an investigatory file in a pending or prospective proceeding when disclosure"could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings"

June 21, 2013

Army: Freedom of Information Does Not Include Edward Snowden's Military File (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/06/edward-snowden-army-file-foia/66480/)

So, as of right now, all I can truly say is "September is just around the corner, Right?" :P LOL We will definitely know then of all these accusation's and rhetorical remarks from and with in the Snowden follower's are either true or more smoke up the old A-hole. ???

1WW

We need a new subforum under Special Guests, Zorgon.  Thorfourwinds' Doom Porn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52elXqffolQ

Seriously, Thor; if you're looking forward to dying, there are easier ways than relying on Fukushima or the next solar storm.  Buy yourself a heroin fix and two bottles of whiskey. ;)

Our Dear Friend petrus4:

Up until now, we actually thought you might have a certain handle on many things.

However, the inane 5-year-old video you 'contributed' to address the real question of whether or not 'remote viewing' has any credibility whatsoever, certainly brings to the forefront your agenda and

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/warn-terms.png)

Thank you for your time and consideration and your externalization of how you might handle today's reality... nix on the H, but a bottle of Gentleman Jack sounds good...:P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif) (//http://)

"Bigger than 9/11..."

Snowden becomes hero for "revealing" the spy stuff that if One looked was out there, then is used to further promote "Killshot."

I'm trying to see how They think, because Snowden is way too fishy.

So what have They planned the...ninth of November (11/9), perhaps?

Hmmmm.  Could be.

EDIT:  My bad. Maybe 9/11 redux.  Need sleep.

Ed Dames is the first to admit that in remote viewing, it possible to see things in the future, but impossible to put a date on things.  So to predict an exact day of the Killshot, sounds like fearmongering to me.


We all know this Killshot could happen, because it has before, just little effect since in the 1800's we did not have all of our electronic gagetry.

I agree with Z on Snowden, he is just helping the agenda, by getting approval for continued surveilance.  In a poll almost half of americans approve of the spying on them for "security" reasons.  Just like they love being groped at the airports.

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Quote from: micjer on August 08, 2013, 01:14:55 PM
Ed Dames is the first to admit that in remote viewing, it possible to see things in the future, but impossible to put a date on things.  So to predict an exact day of the Killshot, sounds like fearmongering to me.


We all know this Killshot could happen, because it has before, just little effect since in the 1800's we did not have all of our electronic gagetry.

I agree with Z on Snowden, he is just helping the agenda, by getting approval for continued surveilance.  In a poll almost half of americans approve of the spying on them for "security" reasons.  Just like they love being groped at the airports.

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/Malcolm-Park1.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/Malcolm-Park1.jpg.html)

Indeed Micjer .... the laws of physics apply to RV because RV is a Quantum phenomenon ... Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle is any of a variety of mathematical inequalities asserting a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties of a particle known as complementary variables, such as position x and momentum p, can be known simultaneously. For instance, the more precisely the position of some particle is determined, the less precisely its momentum can be known, and vice versa.

In RV the problem becomes even worse ... the conscious mind is a quantum focus that has the power to change or alter outcomes.
Further still the mind is able to see potential futures and if left to itself ... to form self fulfilling outcomes.

There are other possibilities for Ed Dames inability to see past Sept 2013 .... his own mortality or career being two things that come to mind ... maybe he will have an epiphany that stops him from trying to be a prophet.

As for the last part of your comment about Snowden and the security agenda and the willingness of the sheeple to hand over life and liberty ... yeah I agree .... 85% of Humanity has the Intellect and perceptual awareness of a Carrot !!

C..

I think the RV community is looking for more doom porn as their recent May 2013 viewing of Coastal inundation as reported by the Farsight Institute (Particularly of Washington DC) did not come to fruition..

Oops did I just bring Dr. brown into this..So sorry.

Andy

From:  http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/08/the-edward-snowden-solar-flare-killshot-hoax/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DarkPolitricks+%28Dark+Politricks%29

The Edward Snowden 'Solar Flare Killshot' Hoax

QuoteThe Internet is ablaze with yet another baseless conspiracy theory that only serves to distract from real cover-ups and issues of genuine significance – the hoax that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden recently warned of a "solar flare killshot' set to wipe out hundreds of millions of people in September.

According to the original article, "Edward Snowden, hacker-fugitive and former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor, revealed Tuesday that a series of solar flares is set to occur in September, killing hundreds of millions of people. Documents provided by Snowden prove that, as of 14 years ago, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) remote viewers knew that the event was inevitable. Ever since, the worlds governments have quietly been trying to prepare for the sweeping global famine to result."

The story has since gone viral, appearing on countless forums and websites and attracting thousands upon thousands of comments.

Ibid:

QuoteThe source of the story can be traced back to 'The Internet Chronicle', which if you read the site's 'about' page is clearly a satirical website which disseminates false and overtly ludicrous stories.

"Given that there are so many actual cover-ups, scandals and issues of real significance that we could be concentrating on, it's really quite disappointing that so many people have wasted their energy on something that is so transparently false.

The hoax also serves to distract from Snowden's authentic revelations about NSA surveillance."


"The gullibility of thousands upon thousands of people in falling for such a patent hoax because they didn't spend 30 seconds checking the source only provides the mainstream media with more ammunition to shoot down very real cover-ups and conspiracies, such as the death of Michael Hastings, by lumping in genuine issues with baseless conspiracy theories such as the Edward Snowden 'solar killshot' hoax."

It also sidesteps the real question:

Quoting thofourwinds

"The hoax also serves to distract from Snowden's authentic revelations about NSA surveillance."

Exactly right...

Deflecting the integrity of the whistle blower.

Re: they know what you are doing
« Reply #244 on: August 05, 2013, 08:28:00 AM »

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4534.msg67437;topicseen#new

Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin - not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges.

The undated documents show that
federal agents are trained to "recreate" the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated,
a practice that some experts say violates a defendant's Constitutional right to a fair trial. If defendants don't know how an investigation began, they cannot know to ask to review potential sources of exculpatory evidence - information that could reveal entrapment, mistakes or biased witnesses.

"I have never heard of anything like this at all," said Nancy Gertner, a Harvard Law School professor who served as a federal judge from 1994 to 2011. Gertner and other legal experts said the program sounds more troubling than recent disclosures that the National Security Agency has been collecting domestic phone records. The NSA effort is geared toward stopping terrorists; the DEA program targets common criminals, primarily drug dealers.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/dea-surveillance-cover-up_n_3706207.html

DEA Special Operations Division Covers Up Surveillance Used To Investigate Americans: Report
Reuters  |  Posted: 08/05/2013 4:59 am EDT  |  Updated: 08/05/2013 9:34 am EDT

Quote from: thorfourwinds on August 08, 2013, 05:19:29 PM

Is remote viewing 'real'
and of any value whatsoever?

Yes RV is real .... although personally I hate the term.

The proper term should be Remote Sensing .... what good is a Remote Viewer if sent to a darkened pitch black room ? none whatsoever.

If you found yourself inside a pitch black room the first senses to be heightened are Hearing and Smell .... sounds and smells reveal information viewing cannot ... there is also the sense of ambiance and temperature and taste and texture etc etc etc.

Very few RV'rs are actually able to see more than flashes of images .... those that are good at images are usually poor in other areas such as sound or smell or ambiance or texture or temperature .... this is the main reason why RV is done by groups of people, the other is accuracy ... the best you can expect from an individual is 85% accuracy on a really good day .... so a multitude of sensors are used until a composite picture is formed from the commonalities recorded by each sensor.

Remote Sensing is a Quantum Phenomenon ..... inside the Human brain are Quantum tubules that are the send/receive mechanism, it is no more miraculous than the eyes ability to sense photons or the ears ability to detect sound waves etc etc.

Remote sensing works for everything that is and has been .... it doe's not work for what will be .... the physical law of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle prevents that from occurring ... RV/RS is a Quantum Phenomenon and obeys the laws of Quantum physics.

Divination and Clairvoyance are entirely different animals ..... and I do not believe Mr Dames claims to be able to do either.

Describing the future of anything is not Remote Viewing .... it really annoys me when RV'rs start claiming they can see the future .... one wonders what Ed Dames will claim he can do next ... maybe transmute water into wine or levitate himself and thus avoid airports and TSA gropers.

I hope this clears what is increasingly becoming muddy waters.

C...

Yes, remote viewing is real.  I have had two minor experiences which convinced me of that.

Well only a week or so to go ...

There once was a man called Ed Dames ... He made a prediction that went down in Flames ... The end of the World by a mighty Killshot ... Never was to be and happen it did not ... The  outcome for Ed was suitably fitting ... He gave up RV and he took up Knitting.   ;)

C..

Looks like a bust..
Weakest Solar Maximum in 100 years..
http://www.space.com/21937-sun-solar-weather-peak-is-weak.html (http://www.space.com/21937-sun-solar-weather-peak-is-weak.html)

The only shots that were killed here this month were the 80 proof kind...

Andy

Quote from: Cosmic4life on August 08, 2013, 06:49:19 PM
Yes RV is real .... although personally I hate the term.

Agreed.

Would you agree that the usefulness or reliability of RV has been exaggerated for psy op purposes?

Quote from: Pimander on October 01, 2013, 04:32:30 PM
Agreed.

Would you agree that the usefulness or reliability of RV has been exaggerated for psy op purposes?

Yes to a degree ... it is also used to cover research into Microwave Telepathy ... Quantum Entanglement Communication ... Microwave Holography ... etc. etc.

C..

Quote from: Cosmic4life on September 22, 2013, 07:25:27 PM
There once was a man called Ed Dames ... He made a prediction that went down in Flames ... The end of the World by a mighty Killshot ... Never was to be and happen it did not ... The  outcome for Ed was suitably fitting ... He gave up RV and he took up Knitting.   ;)

;D  Gold for that one!

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 07, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
Who is Snowden providing these documents TO?

Well I thought that was obvious :D

Anonymous Internet Reporters that post on FarceBook and Twatter where reality is not required :D

If enough people believe it is TRUE you reach the TIPPING point of public opinion and it becomes the TRUTH...


Oh wait....

::)

Quote from: Cosmic4life on September 22, 2013, 07:25:27 PM
Well only a week or so to go ...

There once was a man called Ed Dames ... He made a prediction that went down in Flames ... The end of the World by a mighty Killshot ... Never was to be and happen it did not ... The  outcome for Ed was suitably fitting ... He gave up RV and he took up Knitting.   ;)

C..

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Well, if the dot gov can't come to terms with a budget to operate, maybe the kill shot is real and they know it and why should they act as if its all business as usual when its really over.

The funny thing about this reality is it looks to be closing in on our future and all is falling down to some chaos reaction that the dot gov has prepared for with mucho armement and bullets. Maybe the sun goes bonkers and most people are closet ZOMBIES ready to burst out as the sun pops.

Than again, maybe the ZOMBIES will burst out from the dot gov closing services and food stamps.

Its a tough nut to crack.

Personally; I have yet to be convinced that "Remote Viewing" has anything to do with Future Events

But I am willing to be proved wrong about this.

"Remote Viewing" still interests me regarding its "workings" and the part it plays.

The kill shot could be a reality disguised as a solar event to inflame the masses into ZOMBIE riot mode blaming the sun for the dot gov shut down and soon to follow chaos.

The dot gov kill shot could be their way of explaining the event with all those vehicle, weapons and bullets they have acumulated

Quote from: zorgon on October 01, 2013, 07:51:50 PM

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Nice pic    :D

Fortunately for us the Space Fairies blew it in the other direction   ;)

C..

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on October 01, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Personally; I have yet to be convinced that "Remote Viewing" has anything to do with Future Events

But I am willing to be proved wrong about this.

"Remote Viewing" still interests me regarding its "workings" and the part it plays.

Remote Viewing cannot view future events that are yet to be determined .... only events with a very high degree of probability can be viewed.

But .... anyone who does their research can map out probabilities and determine outcomes ... it does not require RV or a crystal ball.

RV is a quantum phenomenon .. it therefore has to obey the rules ... the higher the uncertainty - the lesser the accuracy.

RV can only be accurate with any degree of usefulness if the target is already determined to be existent or if probabilities are trending toward a high probability of actualization.

Basically for the purposes of predicting future events ... RV is useless and is open to manipulation ... apart from RVer's there are also people called transmitters ... they have the ability to produce imagery and transmit it into their local area ... now if such a transmitter were to be around RVer's it would be possible to deceive and mislead them into thinking they have glimpsed the future or anything else for that matter.

The transmitter counter ... is the probable cause of the shut-down of Military RV ... and with today's technology in Satellites and Ground penetrating Radar etc etc ... it no longer serves.

C..

QuoteRemote Viewing cannot view future events that are yet to be determined ....

Can this be proved ?

Or is it just a wild Guess based on lack of information ?   :)

What if RV is split theory viewing

Quote from: Cosmic4life on October 01, 2013, 11:54:18 PM
Fortunately for us the Space Fairies blew it in the other direction   ;)

IF one is to accept that Remote Viewing has any value at all, then we also have to accept that other powers can also effect the outcome of possible futures.

Amy is always telling us that simple awareness pushing 10% of the people to the tipping point will miraculously make her utopia happen.

If you accept that evil minds can effect the outcome of life to their own ends, then the opposite is true... that good minds can blow away evil CME's

Though I do like your Faeries :D  It was me... I simply wasn't ready to be fried :D

Oh yeah? PROVE it wasn't me :D

::)

Quote from: zorgon on October 02, 2013, 03:58:34 AM
Amy is always telling us that simple awareness pushing 10% of the people to the tipping point will miraculously make her utopia happen.

No "miracle."  If enough think the ideas are good - and I have confidence they are - We will implement them.  Geez, z.  "Miraculously," My tail end.

:P

Quote from: Cosmic4life on October 01, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Yes to a degree ... it is also used to cover research into Microwave Telepathy ... Quantum Entanglement Communication ... Microwave Holography ... etc. etc.

C..

Microwave telepathy?  Now you are talking Pimander material.  I think - in fact I KNOW - a lot of people are more confused about this.  Perhaps you are not. :)

How far do we take this discussion in a public thread?

Quote from: Pimander on October 02, 2013, 12:13:30 PM
Microwave telepathy?  Now you are talking Pimander material.  I think - in fact I KNOW - a lot of people are more confused about this.  Perhaps you are not. :)

How far do we take this discussion in a public thread?

Hmmm yes the wonderful world of Microwaves ... not only good for heating food and making Crop Circles ... but many many applications.

Microwave Telepathy and Empathy ... mood control ... mind control/programming ... population control ... the possibilities are endless.

I would urge people to view this video with Barry Trower who worked on Microwave Technology for 30 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBMB0n0sxR0

C...

Thanks for the video.  I am downloading it for viewing later but the beginning looks interesting.

I got me a CB radio in a biscuit tin.

Gonna be real valuable one day!
(Or not, but is real cheap insurance against several forms of apocalypse).

And a solar flare won't affect chemical means of providing electricity.
I would hazard a guess that a fair few generators would survive too...
Along with pretty much anything that happeend to be in a shipping container.
The internet was designed to survive an atomic war, and I'd imagine the molten core would protect many of those who are experinecing night at the time of the CME arriving by virtue of it being metallic...

Would make a mess though.

It seems I am a bit late to this thread! :c)

FB.

Quote from: Pimander on October 02, 2013, 12:13:30 PM
Microwave telepathy? 
How far do we take this discussion in a public thread?

Well since the Military is already putting microwave telepathy weapons on public view, I don't see an issue :P


The Army's Telepathic Ray Gun
A newly declassified report details the Defense Department's mind-control weapons concepts
By Megan Miller Posted 03.21.2008

(http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/article_image_large/public/images/2008/03/raygun.jpg?itok=Idsu6qWq)
What we imagine the telepathic ray would look like Erin Silversmith

QuoteThe U.S. Defense department has tested some spooky weapons, but those involving mind control and telepathic attack may be near the top of the list. A newly declassified 1998 document released under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act (download the pdf here), describes potential weapons for crowd control, such as a microwave gun that could beam words directly into people's ears, and an electromagnetic pulse that causes epilepsy-like seizures.

The report also discusses a weapon that can heat a victim's body internally, producing an artificial fever. It is unknown whether the fever-inducing technology was actually tested, but the report notes that the equipment needed "is available today" and that the resulting fever would keep a victim incapacitated for "any desired period consistent with safety."

In an interview with New Scientist, Steve Wright, a UK security expert at Leeds Metropolitan University, warned that such technologies could be used for torture. "The epileptic seizure-inducing device is grossly irresponsible and should never be fielded," He said. "We know from similar artificially-induced fits that the victim subsequently remains 'potentiated' and may spontaneously suffer epileptic fits again after the initial attack."

http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2008-03/army%E2%80%99s-telepathic-ray-gun

PDF File

http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/import/PopSciArticles/anchors/microwave.pdf

They been allegedly using them to pacify inner-city areas in the UK for years, but that can't be true obviously because they don't have installations all over the place that are capable of broadcasting RF microwave frequencies do they?   ::)

(http://media.npr.org/assets/news/2010/09/03/jailray_custom-446a9feff81d047bcd93c49fc5a139c95f855ce9-s3-c85.jpg)


Raytheon decided to show off a small scale version of what can be done by testing one on inmates in a prison.

QuoteLos Angeles authorities have unveiled a new high-tech device designed to control rowdy inmates: a mechanism that blasts millimeter beams that simulate intense heat.

At the Pitchess Detention Center, north of Los Angeles, officials recently showed off their latest tool, which resembles a supersized dental X-ray machine with a flat screen on top. It works like something out of Star Trek.

"You know when they set their phasers to stun, they did that so they didn't kill people? Well, that's exactly what this is. It does stun you," says Mike Booen, a vice president of Raytheon Missile Systems. The company built the device for the Los Angeles County Jail, a scaled-down version of what it designed for the military.

"I don't care if you're the meanest, toughest person in the world," he says, "this will get your attention and make your brain focus on making it stop, rather than doing whatever you were planning on doing."

Zapping Inmates To Control Them: Harmless Or Torture? (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129630188)

I'd tell you what they really have but then I'd have to zap you. :P

i shouldn't laugh when i found this..but i did



http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/MEDUSA_Ray_Gun_.html

They are just admitting more of what that burn machine can do.the one with the flat panel on top.they use to say it made you feel like your on fire.they could actually catch people on fire if they wanted to with that machine.but if you cover yourself in aluminum foil then it would not work.or if you get behind a metal trashcan lid.expect metal trashcans to be outlawed soon.lol.the lid could be used to redirect the beam back at the enemy.
Also they are admitting that microwave can put voices in your head.sounds alot like the complaint by the navy yard shooter.hmm?

Quote from: sky otter on October 25, 2013, 04:49:02 AM


i shouldn't laugh when i found this..but i did



http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/MEDUSA_Ray_Gun_.html

We be laughing till it hits our corn field... :o

Quote from: Pimander on October 25, 2013, 03:17:15 AM
but that can't be true obviously because they don't have installations all over the place that are capable of broadcasting RF microwave frequencies do they?   ::)

If they have smart grid, they have the installations...
Smart grid RF can do a lot that is not disclosed.

BTS

you didn't look to see what it was

Z had it on file
this is the headline and DATE..and the date was why i was laughing..
proved him right again
he had the info way back
and no one reads links

Microwave ray gun controls crowds with noise
July 2008 
by David Hambling  

Zorgon is like willy wonka.he always gets the candy first.

Zorgon is going to play with Faeries :P  and stop wasting his time.

As an FYI  Jack Arnseon who brought us most of the research on military stuff and Russ Hamerly from Boeing don't hang out here... because no one reads and responds to their stuff

Fortunately I can reach them via facebook and email


::)

I seem to recall you and I being involved with a discussion on the other site about this tech that drew all the goon squad members back in '08...

read, people!



seeker

As to that KILLSHOT...

It MISSED :P

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/984877/thumbs/o-SOLAR-FLARE-facebook.jpg)

Quote from: robomont on October 25, 2013, 05:00:20 AM
but if you cover yourself in aluminum foil then it would not work.or if you get behind a metal trashcan lid.expect metal trashcans to be outlawed soon

I understand that microwave white noise mitigates the effect on your brain (i.e. mood/mind control) if you fancy thinking about inventing something potentially useful.  I wouldn't know where to start but I imagine microwave ovens and cellphones could be modified.  A bit more practical than a foil suit....

Quote from: sky otter on October 25, 2013, 04:49:02 AM
i shouldn't laugh when i found this..but i did
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/MEDUSA_Ray_Gun_.html

This part made my sides split.  Bit of an understatement.

QuoteThe device is aimed for military or crowd-control applications, but may have other uses.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/MEDUSA_Ray_Gun_.html

Quote from: burntheships on October 25, 2013, 05:07:48 AM
If they have smart grid, they have the installations...
Smart grid RF can do a lot that is not disclosed.

There is more but I'm actually worried about disclosure.  Telephone transmitters.... radar... there is more but  :-X in public methinks.


ETA:  Too much more.

Oh the killshot.  Yeah, all electronics and mind still functioning.  Come on Zorgon, I know you like Naval microwave research better. :P

Quote from: the seeker on October 25, 2013, 11:39:11 AM
I seem to recall you and I being involved with a discussion on the other site about this tech that drew all the goon squad members back in '08...

read, people!

Gimme a link mate.  I suppose I can be bothered to wade through lots of dick head chat to see what got them worried, although I have a fair idea. ::)

Pim, I can't find the thread on spookz; it is either buried deep or has been deleted, mate... :o


sorry mate


seeker

https://www.remoteviewingproducts.com/lrv/events.cfm

Newsflash.  Kill shot date moved to 2014.

Btw you can still get tickets to event in Reno in March!!!!

Who says negativity and fear doesn't make you  money.

In other words, the killshot was bogus.  No one in my opinion can predict the end of the world.  Just sayin....

Kinda looks that way.

Now Harold Camping's prediction of the end of the world came true for him.  He died.

Quote from: spacemaverick on January 03, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
In other words, the killshot was bogus.  No one in my opinion can predict the end of the world.  Just sayin....

:)  That's because there is NO END per say ONLY CHANGES.

It's like a book having a beginning & End but the Library remains.

LIFE or the Mind (The "Real SELF") is the "Observer", where what you experience,
is from a "Program Book" being read or experienced through a "Processing System".

What is Dead is NOT Alive and what is Alive can NOT Die.

The body is already Dead, as it is only a "Story" you are experiencing.

But your "LIFE entity" is NOT your Body.

Your "Real Self" i.e. a Partition of LIFE is the "Observer" and can NOT Die even if it wants to.

Living & Dying are "Opposites", and the One can NOT become the Other...  :)

The Place of LIFE is NOT in the Universe as What we believe to be, is only
a very, very small "Holograph", within the Environment of the brain.

The biggest mistake we can make, is believing what we interpret or see within the brain,
is the same as what is outside the Environment of the brain.

There is NO evidence to support that what we see and experience within the Environment of the Brain,
and what is "Outside" that Environment are the Same.   :)

What we see and experience is a "decoded" event.

The decoding takes place within the Environment of a "Pseudo Processing System", we call the brain.

But there is another "Processor", which generates all we both see and experience.

As is discussed in the latter part of this youtube video...