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A NEW Bike for SOMAMECH


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holy crap thats a radial aircraft engine isn't it?
"bet thats fast fella"?
"yeah it fly's"

my mind is officially blown.im in awe.....

How many CC's ?  LOL.

Wow big radial . What's it off?

That's mental.

Look at the size of the front wheel!!
And i don't see any brakes :o

another :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hirsRnytTkU

And I thought us Kiwi's were Mad....  LOL.

Quote from: zorgon on August 11, 2013, 12:04:13 PM
A NEW Bike for SOMAMECH


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gadzooks!  mad max arises...

That reminded me of the Dodge Tomahawk. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcxv2_0V1qI



Unless you want something bigger.  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO0pAmliyVY

Radial Trumpet Device  ;D

This IS Steeze  8)

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I should get into this crowdfunding stuff.

As this is the bike I want.. A giant Trance with 27.5 wheels and a rockshox pike on the front end with the option for 160mm to 130mm fork at the flick of a button :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI6LmGkuyKY

I like pedalling my horse thank you Zorgon LOL ;)

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 11, 2013, 12:27:44 PM
And I thought us Kiwi's were Mad....  LOL.

Good lord man you are full madness LOL

I was just checking my youtube subs and saw that redbull had posted the American Cup Yacht's... Full of Kiwi's thankfully ;)

here ya go Soma.. i can see you on one of these
;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLj0SQrYJqk

Sheesh check this out when it come's to Yachting/Sailing!

I am blown away that the America's Cup is now this???:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLondMnwVk

Being a downunder boy we all love the memory of Ben Lexen :D

Quote from: sky otter on August 11, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
here ya go Soma.. i can see you on one of these
;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLj0SQrYJqk

LOL  ;)

When it comes to Three dang wheels I love this videos of Drift Triking :D 

I so want to eff of Oz.. and spend my time between TW and NZ and Re-learn the Steeze  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZCZsHJIR8

Quote from: Somamech on August 11, 2013, 09:02:50 PM
Good lord man you are full madness LOL

I was just checking my youtube subs and saw that redbull had posted the American Cup Yacht's... Full of Kiwi's thankfully ;)

It will be interesting to see if we win back the Americas Cup again.    ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZCZsHJIR8

I might be in my 60's, but still young enough to give this a go...  LOL.

Brings back fond memories....

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 11, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
It will be interesting to see if we win back the Americas Cup again.    ;D

We all know America Cheat to Win ... ;)  :D

LOL

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 11, 2013, 09:58:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZCZsHJIR8

I might be in my 60's, but still young enough to give this a go...  LOL.

Brings back fond memories....

I think like that too although I am nearly hitting 40 minus a couple of years...

Even when we get old one can still get a bit of style and ease into their life that make's one grin from side to side! :)

As eveidenced in this Two Wheel  vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elgCynkFwys

I grew up on a farm and never had the competition to push myself further when I was a kiddo.  To ride these new dirt jumps would be so amazing !  I am not kidding myself in anyway though.. i just want to be able to survive them :D

An example of my design work from 6 years ago...   LOL.

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CBR 250 RR 20,000 + RPM, with sequential shift...

One bad boy, sounds like F1... Used to draw the crowds when this started up on the grid.  LOL.



Close up of the powerhouse


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MatrixT that is a nice piece of work 8)
20'000 RPM! that was some engine Honda built! quite a rare bike.

I'm getting a 2000 plate CBR 600 track spec ;) it's quick. very very quick.
can't wait ;D

MT, im loving that, I bet it flew.
Very Very cool indeedy.
Elvis :)

See I told you all MT is way on the ball and has the chops to prove it ;)

That is a work of art...

Check out the electronic sensor's for the ECU :O

Even though I prefer the pedal horse....  ;D

One has to find some "repeating" history in the Gas driven Horse's and wonder where we have come :P

Back in 1966 people figured out that that small engines with high inertial kinematics were cool :D

This is a six Cylinder 250cc

1966 Honda RC166 Exhaust Engine Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRop_ZMwo0

No need for Massive amounts of Metal to propel :D

Honda 125 5cylinder at Goodwood F.O.S 2002

Epic sound ;)

Honda 125 5cylinder at Goodwood F.O.S 2002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuvx15DLDmc

SOMA them there Honda's. Rare as chicken lips.
remember the RC30 and the Yam ow01? then that crazy honda with the oval pistons ???
Mmmm petrol.

You can see why I chose a Honda CBR 250 RR Engine.

This Kart had a 6 speed Sequential shift pneumatically controlled from the steering wheel.
I also modified the engine to have a dry sump.

The Sensors you see, involves HT feed back where we were analysing the air/fuel ratio
by feedback (Electronic) from the burn inside each cylinder. The other is an O2 sensor
in the exhaust.

In the 1980's and 90's I designed and Manufactured "Closed Loop" Ignition control Computers
as well as Closed Loop EFI systems which used pressure sensors encapsulated in the base of spark plugs
to directly control Ignition timing and air/fuel mixtures independently in each Cylinder.

We were detecting the Insulation Mode (Involving the thermal cycles see... "Carnot's Thermal Cycle")

This involved monitoring in real time, the "Insulation Cycle" involving a sudden rise in Cylinder pressure
after each Ignition cycle.
(Which by technicians was often confused with detonation i.e. Fuel Nock.   :o   :)  )

My interest in the design of "High Performance Competition Engines" back then, involved thermodynamics...   :)

This may interest some esp. Soma and PWM.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle

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The "Carnot Cycle" when acting as a heat engine consists of the following steps:

1.    Reversible isothermal expansion of the gas at the "hot" temperature, T1
(isothermal heat addition or absorption).
During this step (1 to 2 on Figure 1, A to B in Figure 2) the gas is allowed to expand
and it does work on the surroundings.
The temperature of the gas does not change during the process, and thus the expansion is isothermal.
The gas expansion is propelled by absorption of heat energy Q1 and of entropy \Delta S=Q_1/T_1
from the high temperature reservoir.

2.    Isentropic (reversible adiabatic) expansion of the gas (isentropic work output).
For this step (2 to 3 on Figure 1, B to C in Figure 2) the piston and cylinder are assumed to be thermally insulated,
thus they neither gain nor lose heat.
The gas continues to expand, doing work on the surroundings, and losing an equivalent amount of internal energy.
The gas expansion causes it to cool to the "cold" temperature, T2. The entropy remains unchanged.

3.    Reversible isothermal compression of the gas at the "cold" temperature, T2.
(isothermal heat rejection) (3 to 4 on Figure 1, C to D on Figure 2)
Now the surroundings do work on the gas, causing an amount of heat energy Q2 and of entropy \Delta S=Q_2/T_2
to flow out of the gas to the low temperature reservoir.
(This is the same amount of entropy absorbed in step 1, as can be seen from the Clausius inequality.)

4.    Isentropic compression of the gas (isentropic work input). (4 to 1 on Figure 1, D to A on Figure 2)
Once again the piston and cylinder are assumed to be thermally insulated.
During this step, the surroundings do work on the gas, increasing its internal energy and compressing it,
causing the temperature to rise to T1. The entropy remains unchanged.
At this point the gas is in the same state as at the start of step 1.

MatrixT that is some serious GEEK tech. I know a bit about detonation having had plenty
of holed pistons due to either too much compression or weak fuel/air mixture or hot plugs in
the 2 strokes i tuned I don't pretend to understand what you wrote there but it's impressive

your some special kind of engineer pal 8)
Why are modern bikes like the Kawasaki ZX1000R still having problems with hot middle cylinders?
you would expect this to have been sorted but it's a common problem.

Oh and I spotted the air shifter ;) there great.thanks for the close up pic i like it!

Quote from: stealthyaroura on August 12, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
SOMA them there Honda's. Rare as chicken lips.
remember the RC30 and the Yam ow01? then that crazy honda with the oval pistons ???
Mmmm petrol.

Stealthy I would love an Rc30 along with an NR750..  HRC, they try different stuff!

When I was a kid and my dad had a working Honda CBX Six he would round up sheep on said bike on a thousand acre farm with me sitting on the tank LOL :D

Later on in infant years I made a school project about Soichiro LOL and got good marks LMAO :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soichiro_Honda

Kinda one of things where you wonder in hindsight about japan.  HRC have Asimo, dominate any sport they compete in and have no problems gaining sponsorship :D


 

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 12, 2013, 10:30:53 PM
You can see why I chose a Honda CBR 250 RR Engine.

This Kart had a 6 speed Sequential shift pneumatically controlled from the steering wheel.
I also modified the engine to have a dry sump.

The Sensors you see, involves HT feed back where we were analysing the air/fuel ratio
by feedback (Electronic) from the burn inside each cylinder. The other is an O2 sensor
in the exhaust.

In the 1980's and 90's I designed and Manufactured "Closed Loop" Ignition control Computers
as well as Closed Loop EFI systems which used pressure sensors encapsulated in the base of spark plugs
to directly control Ignition timing and air/fuel mixtures independently in each Cylinder.

We were detecting the Insulation Mode (Involving the thermal cycles see... "Carnot's Thermal Cycle")

This involved monitoring in real time, the "Insulation Cycle" involving a sudden rise in Cylinder pressure
after each Ignition cycle.
(Which by technicians was often confused with detonation i.e. Fuel Nock.   :o   :)  )

My interest in the design of "High Performance Competition Engines" back then, involved thermodynamics...   :)

This may interest some esp. Soma and PWM.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Carnot_cycle_p-V_diagram.svg/400px-Carnot_cycle_p-V_diagram.svg.png)


The "Carnot Cycle" when acting as a heat engine consists of the following steps:

1.    Reversible isothermal expansion of the gas at the "hot" temperature, T1
(isothermal heat addition or absorption).
During this step (1 to 2 on Figure 1, A to B in Figure 2) the gas is allowed to expand
and it does work on the surroundings.
The temperature of the gas does not change during the process, and thus the expansion is isothermal.
The gas expansion is propelled by absorption of heat energy Q1 and of entropy \Delta S=Q_1/T_1
from the high temperature reservoir.

2.    Isentropic (reversible adiabatic) expansion of the gas (isentropic work output).
For this step (2 to 3 on Figure 1, B to C in Figure 2) the piston and cylinder are assumed to be thermally insulated,
thus they neither gain nor lose heat.
The gas continues to expand, doing work on the surroundings, and losing an equivalent amount of internal energy.
The gas expansion causes it to cool to the "cold" temperature, T2. The entropy remains unchanged.

3.    Reversible isothermal compression of the gas at the "cold" temperature, T2.
(isothermal heat rejection) (3 to 4 on Figure 1, C to D on Figure 2)
Now the surroundings do work on the gas, causing an amount of heat energy Q2 and of entropy \Delta S=Q_2/T_2
to flow out of the gas to the low temperature reservoir.
(This is the same amount of entropy absorbed in step 1, as can be seen from the Clausius inequality.)

4.    Isentropic compression of the gas (isentropic work input). (4 to 1 on Figure 1, D to A on Figure 2)
Once again the piston and cylinder are assumed to be thermally insulated.
During this step, the surroundings do work on the gas, increasing its internal energy and compressing it,
causing the temperature to rise to T1. The entropy remains unchanged.
At this point the gas is in the same state as at the start of step 1.

Definetley interesting MT, and from what I have read on the Motomatters website regarding some of ducati's woes about an agressive engine come from the supposed fact that Honda and Yamaha have Two Fuel Injector's per cyclinder rather than one. 

One thing is for certain as reported on MM is that ECU programmers make some bucks as they can anylise data, and the good one's are some of the highest paid in the paddock  :D

God the NR 750. That takes me back.
Stealth what about the RC45... Collin Edwards an all that.
Honda have the vision.

Whats sorta intersting as you guy's are way above my Tech level.

But regarding what you said Matrix in the past is how the Dynamic Converters work,  Although I don't understand that completeley.... (really I don't but it sounds elegant and simple which I like)

I was thinking just before about making a Lord Kelvin Generator and how the principles in that work in a dynamic converter. 

Just throwing a thought out there as a Lord Kelvin Generator is simple to make :D

That Honda v 4 has had many guises, and its always been great.
I took a VFR down through France and Spain and it was a great motorbike.
So great low down. My mate was on a blade and it wasn't any quicker in the real world.

Hey Elvis did you see the interview with MM93 today ?

He said it's great to have Casey Testing!   

I think it must be about about the first time a rider who should be kicking arse in a Championship said sayonora and test's for Nakamoto san :D

MM93 .. wiked rider! 

Hope Cal doe's well though man as he is also the most interesting rider in MGP now.  And we all want to see Ducati doing well. 

QuoteBut regarding what you said Matrix in the past is how the Dynamic Converters work,  Although I don't understand that completeley.... (really I don't but it sounds elegant and simple which I like)

I have decided to rebuild a single wheel version of that Dynamic Converter, having a 100 mm Diameter
wheel, to demonstrate on Pegasus. A bit busy at present but will do this in the new year.

What this baby does is convert Centrifugal force into a useful means of shifting something at very high speeds
involving very high acceleration.

Soma you know how out of balance things in rotation can reek havoc and can destroy mechanical things ?

For example a flywheel being 5 oz "out of balance" (Static Balance)

Where;

The Radius            = 100 mm
The angular speed = 4,000 rpm
The Mass              = 5 oz or about 28 grams (Out of Balance)

Produces 559 lbs/force  or 253 Kg/force.   :)

See Centrifugal Calculator.

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal



And if you double the rpm the force increases 4 times.

at 5,000 rpm  2,236 lbs/force  or 1,812 Kg/force.   :)


And doubling the rpm again to 10,000 rpm

8,944 lbs/force  or 7,248 Kg/force.   :)


Now the Trick is to produce this force through an ark of say 10 to 90°.
(Depending on the mas you want to apply)

We use water as the mas.

We captivate the water over an ark of 90° and release the water from the wheel
over the other 270°

This gives us a Force in the direction the water (mas) is captivated in the wheel in relation to its axis
of rotation. (Centrifugally)


In the case of the wheel I'm going to use, (100 mm in diameter) I will rotate this up to about 500,000 rpm
using a high speed brushless electric motor, easily obtained.

The direction of the "force", is determined by the placement of a calliper which captivates the water
in the wheel.

And the force produced is determined by the amount of water (mas) captivated in the tear drop Cavities
in the wheel.

NOTE. Where the water (mas) is captivated in the wheel Centrifugal Force is produced.
But where the water (mas) is allowed to escape there is NO Centrifugal force present.

So now we have a directional projection of "Centrifugal force".

The real deal involves 12 such wheels (Larger) per Converter module, in the form of a "Stack"
each wheel having callipers, so the Converter looks similar to a multi plate clutch as in the case of
a motorcycle clutch.   :)

The wheels look like this;


There is a technique in loading the water into the wheels which I will go into later. And of course
the water is recovered and recycled within the Dynamic Converter itself.

QuoteSoma you know how out of balance things in rotation can reek havoc and can destroy mechanical things ?

Yes indeed I know that well, almost too well regarding my current bike and a certian bike shop that don't check over wheel's, stems, bottom brackets when they assemble them.  I am pretty much left with a heaping pile of crap right now due to poor rotational checking, and really not happy with it :D


   

Here is a drawing showing How this force can be applied in craft etc.


Where I have written Exhaust is where the water (Mas) flows freely and does NOT produce Centrifugal force,
and the water leaves the wheel at a tangent.

But where the Calliper is shown on the left hand side, (a bit like a break calliper used in disc breaks)
the water is trapped in the wheel, producing Centrifugal force..

The Placement of the Calliper decides the direction of the force and the direction the craft will move in !   :)

Thousands of Tons of Force can easily be produced !  :)

Hey thanks for the Math on that one MT !

I am not the smarts on the block thats for sure, but your application does ring bells with me!

I could say I find it odd, but also I don't find it that odd the converters use water. 

Expect a mega Hooman Water post in your section soon mate ;) 

I hope my simple understanding will help with people understanding your more elegant and detailed undertsanding. 

Where does the Water go though after existing the exhaust ?

 

Thanks Soma,
As you can see the principle is very, very, simple...  :)

It is collected in a "Square Tank" the Wheels rotate in, and then delivered to a "Pre Rotator"
in the Centre of the Wheel Cluster.

The Key to water handling is in the design of the "Pre Rotator".

Hey thanks mate!

This is sounding a little like my backyard water experiments using some over-priced water vortex pipes in circulation!

They do work, but how people charge so much considering the Bill of Materials baffles me :O

I can leave a 200 litre drum circulating with aussie tap water from melbourne, come out an hour or two later to check the drum and the water feels like silk for a lack of a better term. :D

Damn man you had me sitting here thinking whats this sqaure you talk about ?  LOL

Yes That Square LOL :D

Quote from: Somamech on August 14, 2013, 09:39:22 PM
Damn man you had me sitting here thinking whats this sqaure you talk about ?  LOL

Yes That Square LOL :D

The Square Tank (Housing) the Water Wheels Rotate in, is Square so the energy can be dissipated in,
by breaking up the water so it can be collected in the base of the Square tank.

If you want to start a thread if you like and I will show All the Components (Very Few) and the workings
of the full system.

I shall however Build another small model (With a single 100 mm Diam, wheel) in the new year,
and video each stage of building it, as well as it running it.

Here is a cross section drawing of that square housing and wheel assembly components.

Quote from: Somamech on August 14, 2013, 09:34:21 PM
Hey thanks mate!

This is sounding a little like my backyard water experiments using some over-priced water vortex pipes in circulation!

They do work, but how people charge so much considering the Bill of Materials baffles me :O

I can leave a 200 litre drum circulating with aussie tap water from melbourne, come out an hour or two later to check the drum and the water feels like silk for a lack of a better term. :D

My ex and I created ormus using one of those pipes in the middle of an enormous neodymium ring magnet...  I forget the setup exactly, though.

Is this about bike power. If so, here is my trusty mongoose 21 speed pedal power steed. For back up when the old heart says no pedaling today I have a 300+ horse job as well which my right foot pushes down and around.


(http://s10.postimg.org/tp6g0b46x/bike.jpg)


Old back up device


(http://s11.postimg.org/hdsuwdbpv/expedition.jpg)

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 14, 2013, 09:59:28 PM
The Square Tank (Housing) the Water Wheels Rotate in, is Square so the energy can be dissipated in,
by breaking up the water so it can be collected in the base of the Square tank.

Is it possible to put one of those on a bike? :)

I just invested in a 21 speed pedal power means of locomotion.  I'd kind of lime to refine my shape to something other than round.

Shasta

Quote from: ArMaP on August 15, 2013, 02:04:53 AM
Is it possible to put one of those on a bike? :)

That would be a total waste of knowledge, but rather IF used Correctly in "Transport",
it would only take a few minutes to get to Mars, instead of 3 Years, like in present human technologies.   :)

My Question is; Why isn't anyone taking notice ?

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 15, 2013, 04:39:30 AM
That would be a total waste of knowledge

I don't think that any use of any thing is a waste of knowledge, at most a waste of time. :)

I asked because I am completely ignorant about that wheel thing. ;D

Quotebut rather IF used Correctly in "Transport", it would only take a few minutes to get to Mars, instead of 3 Years, like in present human technologies.   :)

It doesn't take 3 years, the last Mars mission took "only" 9 or 10 months.

Still a little difference between 9 to 10 months (At least 2 years, on a return trip depending on
the relative positions of the Earth and Mars, Not to mention any other delays) and Minutes...  LOL.

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 15, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
Still a little difference between 9 to 10 months (At least 2 years, on a return trip depending on
the relative positions of the Earth and Mars, Not to mention any other delays) and Minutes...  LOL.

Sure there's a difference, but there's no need to talk about a return trip when you said originally "get to Mars", not "get to Mars and back".

Just a question, does that wheel thing really works or is it just theoretical?

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2013, 11:49:31 PM
My ex and I created ormus using one of those pipes in the middle of an enormous neodymium ring magnet...  I forget the setup exactly, though.

What effects did you feel ? 

I have made ormus using the salt water method usinf a decent PH meter that read's to the hundreth.  I did notice some effect which was odd...

Same time though I question their marketing, especially once Wolfe got involved.  All the same though it IS interesting stuff   :)  ;)

Quote from: Gigas on August 15, 2013, 12:56:12 AM
Is this about bike power. If so, here is my trusty mongoose 21 speed pedal power steed. For back up when the old heart says no pedaling today I have a 300+ horse job as well which my right foot pushes down and around.


(http://s10.postimg.org/tp6g0b46x/bike.jpg)


Old back up device


(http://s11.postimg.org/hdsuwdbpv/expedition.jpg)

In Whistler some kids are very lazy and would not ride the bike to go back down the mountain.  But for folke like me who like to slog out a ride in nature... the new bikes compared to your old Mongoose are awesome. 

Quote from: ArMaP on August 15, 2013, 12:47:25 PM
Sure there's a difference, but there's no need to talk about a return trip when you said originally "get to Mars", not "get to Mars and back".

Just a question, does that wheel thing really works or is it just theoretical?

Actually what MT refer's too mate is a device that works in two worlds so to speak.  In one world its like an engine that drive's you around, in the other world top level PHD's are coming up with the theory of Holohraphic Universe. 

I know we come from from pretty different viewpoint's on most odd topics but in this case there is some PHD talk for you too chew on that is not in the realm of what you may dismiss, or me for that matter ;) 

On a more fun note mate, I so dearly want a starwars bike  ;D

Quote from: ArMaP on August 15, 2013, 12:47:25 PM
Sure there's a difference, but there's no need to talk about a return trip when you said originally "get to Mars", not "get to Mars and back".

Just a question, does that wheel thing really works or is it just theoretical?

What would you like the answer to be ArMap?

Sorry i'm late, been busy ::)

I have spoken with Matrix about this before when he first sent me those diagrams & explained the principle to me.

I can definitely confirm from an engineering view that this tech is not only workable, it's literally light years ahead of anything we have now, including 'B-3' tech.

This should actually be 'Project No. 1' for PRC it's that important.

It could change the world overnight, so yes Matrix we are listening.
I know some of you may not be able to follow this, but believe me, the concept is so advanced it could have only come from E.T. Himself (or Itself LOL)

Am i right, Matrix?

This is also relatively easy to build though not without risks.
But then again a hot mercury vortex or a fusion reactor, etc are also risks :P

No pain, no gain...

Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on August 15, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
Sorry i'm late, been busy ::)

I have spoken with Matrix about this before when he first sent me those diagrams & explained the principle to me.

I can definitely confirm from an engineering view that this tech is not only workable, it's literally light years ahead of anything we have now, including 'B-3' tech.

This should actually be 'Project No. 1' for PRC it's that important.

It could change the world overnight, so yes Matrix we are listening.
I know some of you may not be able to follow this, but believe me, the concept is so advanced it could have only come from E.T. Himself (or Itself LOL)

Am i right, Matrix?

This is also relatively easy to build though not without risks.
But then again a hot mercury vortex or a fusion reactor, etc are also risks :P

No pain, no gain...

Re. your ?  :)

As is said in the USA, "We neither Confirm nor Deny"   :)

The Answer is of little importance, and irrelevant.   :)


But look.... the Important thing here is, that the human species sits up and takes notice
regarding what I have introduced into this world, esp. regarding "The Technologies of LIFE"
and "Video Interfaces" with the base "Processing System", ALL is presented through !

NOT for my sake, but for the sake of those participating in the Earth Program.

If ArMap had read earlier, I did mention.... I will produce another example in the new year
when I get a moment.
(This last year has been so interruptive, I haven't even been able to return to China.)

I will be building a small unit at NO Cost to anyone except myself, simply to remove the blindfolds
from the eyes which refuse to see.

Like yourself, I will produce videos showing each step while building this "Dynamic Converter" again,
and Running the end product.

I no longer have access to experimental units I built in the past, part of being able to reproduce
this tech on Earth with Earth based materials and precision machining.

I am merely passing this knowledge on to Pegasus, because I believed this would be the right place
to present it.
I just hope I am NOT wrong about this (Presenting this Knowledge here), and I hope others here
will take advantage of this technology.

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 15, 2013, 09:59:04 PM
What would you like the answer to be ArMap?

The answer was good, I just thought that the irrelevant part about the return trip was, well, irrelevant. :)

You mean you nit picking trivia ?  LOL.

Am I in the right place (Pegasus) to give the knowledge I have ArMap ?

You could have a huge effect on my decisions regarding this !

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 15, 2013, 11:29:54 PM
You mean you nit picking trivia ?  LOL.

If I understand what you wrote correctly, no.

QuoteAm I in the right place (Pegasus) to give the knowledge I have ArMap ?

I think you are.

QuoteYou could have a huge effect on my decisions regarding this !

What does that mean?  ???

Quote from: ArMaP on August 15, 2013, 11:43:21 PM
If I understand what you wrote correctly, no.
I think you are.
What does that mean?  ???

Now you Armap believe yourself to be an Intelligent fellow, so I am sure you can work it out yourself ?   ;)

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 16, 2013, 12:02:00 AM
Now you Armap believe yourself to be an Intelligent fellow, so I am sure you can work it out yourself ?   ;)

I think I am moderately intelligent, but I never assume that I know what other people mean, that's why I ask for confirmations.

To avoid any problems, my participation in this thread ends now.

Quote from: ArMaP on August 16, 2013, 12:08:35 AM
I think I am moderately intelligent, but I never assume that I know what other people mean, that's why I ask for confirmations.

To avoid any problems, my participation in this thread ends now.

A wise Choice ArMap.  ;)

Quote from: Somamech on August 15, 2013, 08:06:23 PM
What effects did you feel ? 

I have made ormus using the salt water method usinf a decent PH meter that read's to the hundreth.  I did notice some effect which was odd...

Same time though I question their marketing, especially once Wolfe got involved.  All the same though it IS interesting stuff   :)  ;)

I had no idea how anyOne else made ormus, but it was energizing to drink.  Definitely miss it.