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Title: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 15, 2013, 08:48:32 PM

working out in the pumpkin patch no time to downlown pics right now..but go outside and see if you can see it





So what is it?

Also known as a 22 degree halo or a sun halo, the ring is caused by sunlight passing through ice crystals in cirrus clouds within the Earth's atmosphere, the University of Illinois' Weather World Project 2010 explains. (See WW2010's website for diagrams that illustrate how it works.)

The crystals bend direct sunlight, projecting it elsewhere into the sky, and at a certain angle -- you guessed it, 22 degrees -- a halo can be seen around the sun.
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: ArMaP on September 15, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
I can't, it's already night here.  :P
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on September 15, 2013, 09:42:20 PM
QuoteALL QUIET ALERT: With the Sun's disk almost completely devoid of sunspots, solar flare activity has come to a halt. Measurements by NOAA's GOES 15 satellite show that the sun's global x-ray emission, a key metric of solar activity, has flatlined:

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/Xray_zps3473015f.gif)

The GOES X-ray Flux plot contains 5 minute averages of solar X-ray output in the 1-8 Angstrom (0.1-0.8 nm) and 0.5-4.0 Angstrom (0.05-0.4 nm) passbands. Data from the SWPC Primary and Secondary GOES X-ray satellites are shown. Some data dropouts from the Primary satellite will occur during satellite eclipses.

Other plots of interest: A black background version of this plot (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5mBL.html); GOES 1-min X-rays; (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html) SWPC Real-time Monitors. (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/index.html)

SWPC X-ray alerts are issued at the M5 (5x10E-5 Watts/m2) and X1 (1x10E-4 Watts/m2) levels, based upon 1-minute data. Large X-ray bursts cause short wave fades for HF propagation paths through the sunlit hemisphere. Some large flares are accompanied by strong solar radio bursts that may interfere with satellite downlinks.

This page updates dynamically every 5 minutes.

QuoteThe quiet is unlikely to break this weekend. NOAA forecasters estimate a scant 1% chance of M- or X-class solar flares during the next 24-48 hours.

The quiet spell is a bit strange because 2013 is supposed to be a year of solar maximum, with lots of flares and sunspots. Supporting this view are data from NASA-supported observatories which show that the sun's magnetic field is poised to flip--a long-held sign that Solar Max has arrived. Nevertheless, solar activity is low.

One possible explanation is that Solar Max is double-peaked and we are in the valley between peaks. If so, solar activity could surge again in late 2013-2014. No one can say for sure, though. Researchers have been studying sunspots for more than 400 years, and we still cannot predict the behavior of the solar cycle. Continued quiet or stormy space weather? Both are possible in the weeks and months ahead.

All Updated Information and terms found here. (http://www.spaceweather.com/)

May explain what and why these are so visible as o fright now, given light refraction is low, it would cause the Ice crystals to be more Reflectively visible to the naked eye.

Hope this helps Sky. ;)

1WW
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: zorgon on September 16, 2013, 12:35:29 AM
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0606/skylens_turtainen_big.jpg)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: zorgon on September 16, 2013, 12:37:35 AM
(http://www.ufoeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/sun-halo1-584x327.jpg)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: 1Worldwatcher on September 16, 2013, 12:52:08 AM
Quote from: zorgon on September 16, 2013, 12:35:29 AM
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0606/skylens_turtainen_big.jpg)

(http://www.ufoeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/sun-halo1-584x327.jpg)

Where I come from we call these Sun-Dog's, very prevalent in the winter months as shown in each of your images.

Not so much a Sun Halo as Sky was pointing out, but have to admit, some really strange seasonal weather going on, Mexico, China, And new discoveries finally being released about t eh USA Midwest and it's ancient past dealing with Earth's tectonic movement's with in the USA......."Coincidence or Preparedness?" ???  ::)

Either way, Cool WINTER PICTURE'S!!

1WW
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: zorgon on September 16, 2013, 01:37:05 AM
The DOGS are the big bright lumps on the Halo :D

Picky Picky :P

(http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/sunhalo.jpg)

They are usually only visible locally though.

(http://www.photographyblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1121.jpg)

And usually associate with very cold weather  Maybe an eqrly super winter prelude to the next ice age?

::)

Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 02:37:34 AM
Z those are sundogs.. I have a few shots of them..all due to chem trails ...
this circle was something I haven't seen here before.. but again due to chem trails

took 83 shots and narrowed it down to these..
started early this morning the new and different chem trails were cluttering up the sky


7:20 am dst...looking west
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/00110.jpg)


7:22
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/00911.jpg)


8:17
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/01311.jpg)


10:39 (both shots)
we were out in the garden when I looked up and ran back in for the camera and stood behind hubby and used his hand..I was afraid to shot directly into the sun


(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/01611.jpg)


(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/01710.jpg)


now I have always said what don't they want us to see..and I didn't see these spots with my eyes
only after looking at the computer screen  and  since i can't size them on here they appear smaller than when i see them on my screen...where they are very visible
interesting, huh?


look at the circle around 11 o clock area and this would be more south west
and maybe thre dots  going from 10 to 11 on the circle.. but the last one is the most visible


10:40
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/02110.jpg)

(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/02111.jpg)


i was trying to use trees to hide the direct sun and get the rainbow circle
without blinding myself
so i was all over the place
but facing west  or nw the entire time

10:45
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/04110.jpg)


10:46
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/04711.jpg)


10:47
(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/04810.jpg)

12:45

(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/07110.jpg)


12:47

(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/07410.jpg)

(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/07610.jpg)


2:49

(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/08310.jpg)






Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: burntheships on September 16, 2013, 03:13:21 AM
Sky,

Awsome pics! Wow, those "contrails" sure did spread,
into a whole sky of new "clouds".

Curious, did you happen to observe any of the aircraft?
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 03:21:05 AM

well that purple dot  (around 5 oclock in the pic...blows up and keeps it's shape) in the 10:45 shot had me looking at what's in the sky but nothing really fits
if you click on the pic it does enlarge a bit

http://spaceweather.com/flybys/flybys.php?zip=(zip removed)
  September 15           

  Satellite Rise time Direction to look Transit time Max elevation Magnitude

  ISS 06:15:19 am WSW 06:18:36 54° -3.5 (very bright)

  SkyMed 1 06:44:51 am S 06:49:12 75° 2.1 (visible)

  SkyMed 1 08:08:58 pm N 08:12:25 35° 3.4 (dim)

  GOCE (flaring satellite) 08:38:43 pm S 08:40:09 40° 4.1 (dim)

  Tiangong 1 08:59:47 pm W 09:02:15 52° 2.6 (visible)

  Idefix and Ariane 42B 10:19:41 pm WSW 10:24:08 43° 3.0 (visible



BTS..no didn't see the aircraft this morning
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: Shasta56 on September 16, 2013, 03:30:33 AM
I tried looking for the sun halo.  All I could see was the cloud cover.   A year's worth of rain in less than a week.

I remember reading about the three suns appearing in the sky that the House of York took to mean the three sons of York.  Those have been explained as being sun dogs.

Lots of aerial activity around here lately.  Helicopters heading out from Buckley to help with damage control.

Shasta
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: burntheships on September 16, 2013, 03:43:30 AM
Quote from: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 03:21:05 AM
BTS..no didn't see the aircraft this morning

Sky, thanks for the response,
interesting all the more.

Just for the record, I say "contrails" tongue in cheek with
a smile to all the "debunkers" who dont think
they are "chemtrailing" anything, ever.

Imo, very obvious they are up to something
right over your yonder.  8)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 04:06:14 AM

please disregard all time notations as some idiot didn't set the  dang thing..
sigh :-[
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on September 16, 2013, 06:00:46 AM

(http://www.photographyblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1121.jpg)


Sometimes seen in NZ as well...

Also around the Moon at night which is more common....
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: ArMaP on September 16, 2013, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 03:21:05 AM
well that purple dot  (around 5 oclock in the pic...blows up and keeps it's shape) in the 10:45 shot had me looking at what's in the sky but nothing really fits
This one?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img513/1323/sz0.jpg)

It looks like lens flare.
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: Fruitbat on September 16, 2013, 09:30:25 AM

I hope I'm not being too personal here, but that's one hairy arm you have for a girl, Sky!

Fruitbat.
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 03:08:13 PM


ArMaP  i thought the same at first.. especially when it showed up above the white dots in the halo before..but i can enlarge on my screen and i don't think it is a lens's flare..
where is deuem when ya need him anywho


and fruitbat..ha ha..but the jokes on you for not reading the fine print with the pic..ya know where i said it was hubby
bwhahahahahahahahahah
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: ArMaP on September 16, 2013, 10:07:43 PM
Quote from: sky otter on September 16, 2013, 03:08:13 PM
ArMaP  i thought the same at first.. especially when it showed up above the white dots in the halo before..but i can enlarge on my screen and i don't think it is a lens's flare..
I don't know if I understood it right, did you see it when you took the photo?

PS: the next time you want to take a photo at something near the Sun use something with the shape of a lollipop or a coin suspended from a wire or thread to cover the Sun. :)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: Shasta56 on September 16, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
Sky, in Fruity's defense, otters are pretty hairy/furry.  I saw some of your relatives at Cheyenne Mountain Zoo last month.  They said hello.

Shasta
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 17, 2013, 01:30:00 AM



ah shasta I was teaseing the bat..that's all.. cause I had already said it was hubby





ArMaP
we were cleaning up the garden a coin on a thread was the last thing i thought of..
but i think i got a couple decent shots
and i tried to isolate the purple thing and got these
since my time was all messed up it was probably one of the satelites passing over
especially since it had those different lights on it
now if i could figure the white dots..
sigh


(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/nh10.jpg)



(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/13/55/53/83/th10.jpg)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: ArMaP on September 17, 2013, 01:38:52 AM
Quote from: sky otter on September 17, 2013, 01:30:00 AM
we were cleaning up the garden a coin on a thread was the last thing i thought of..
A leaf would have worked. :)

Quoteand i tried to isolate the purple thing and got these
Did you see the purple thing when you were taking the photos or only when looking at the photos?

Quotesince my time was all messed up it was probably one of the satelites passing over
No satellite I know is that bright.

Quotenow if i could figure the white dots..
Those dots are the most interesting part of the photos to me. :)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 17, 2013, 01:43:51 AM


no  i didn't see them when i was taking the pic
but i was kinda seein pink everywhere from looking into the sun

standing in the shade and shooting across to the halo got the best results
but only part of the circle

i'll see if i can make the dots bigger..later

well there were satilites in the sky that day.. i copied the chart for our sky on that day
and several were very bright so it could be one of those

but like the green night time blob i got years ago this was also in the south western sky..
almost the same place but lower in the sky
so that is going to be considered my hot spot from now on

Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: ArMaP on September 17, 2013, 01:47:57 AM
Quote from: sky otter on September 17, 2013, 01:43:51 AM
well there were satilites in the sky that day.. i copied the chart for our sky on that day
and several were very bright so it could be one of those
As far as I know there aren't any satellites bright enough to be seen during the day, specially through the clouds.

The ISS is one of the brightest but is invisible during the day.
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: Shasta56 on September 17, 2013, 09:18:29 PM
I knew you were teasing Fruitbat, Sky.  But he's my bat.  I have to defend him.  It's in my contract.

Shasta
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: sky otter on September 17, 2013, 11:24:51 PM


shasa

i think you are suffereing from multiple critter disorder

fish - cats - bats..oh my  ::)
Title: Re: sun halo ..right now.. go look
Post by: Shasta56 on September 18, 2013, 02:37:39 AM
Yep!!!!