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General Category => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: sky otter on September 22, 2013, 05:01:15 AM

Title: practing dive teams find stuff
Post by: sky otter on September 22, 2013, 05:01:15 AM
what are the odds...within days  two mysteries uncovered by practice dives...wild stuff


http://www.wbtv.com/story/23487115/faa-investigating-unknown-plane-found-in-lake-norman

Submerged plane found in Lake Norman during dive team practice drills

Posted: Sep 20, 2013 2:20 PM EDT Updated: Sep 21, 2013 2:56 PM EDT
By Nick Needham – email

LAKE NORMAN, NC (WBTV) - A submerged plane has been located in the waters of Lake Norman during a round of practice drills by an area dive team.

According to the Charlotte Fire Department, the dive team was doing practice drills on the water on September 9, using the sonar equipment, when they located the submerged plane.

Charlotte emergency crews notified the Federal Aviation Administration that the plane had been found.

According to the FAA, officials have  not yet identified what type of aircraft is under the water, or how it ended up in the lake.

The Charlotte Fire Department said the plane was found in 90 feet of water and is not visible from the surface. Teams were using side sonar technology when they found the plane.

Battalion Chief Kent Davis says the plane appears to have been in the water for a long period of time.

WBTV has learned that crews did not find any bodies inside the plane.

The FAA is investigating the incident and is conducting a search of  aircraft ownership records to in an effort to determine the aircraft's last owner.

Fire crews told WBTV they would not remove the plane from the water until the FAA identifies the plane.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/19/decades-old-cold-case-missing-teens-may-be-solved-after-cars-pulled-from/

Decades-old cold case of missing teens may be solved after cars pulled from Oklahoma lake
Published September 19, 2013
FoxNews.com


An Oklahoma sheriff says investigators are confident that one of two cars pulled from the bottom of an Oklahoma lake contained the remains of three teenagers who went missing in 1970.

One of the cars pulled from the lake, a blue Chevrolet Camaro, matched the description of a car in connection with the teens' disappearance, The Daily Elk Citian reported. The missing teens were Thomas Michael Rios, 18, Leah Gail Johnson, 18, and Jimmy Allen Williams, 16.



The paper reported that the three were supposed to be heading to a football game in a nearby town, but were never seen again. Some thought the three had stumbled across a drug deal at a rural airstrip and been killed. Others said they might have run away to California.

"The second vehicle is tentatively identified as the car with the missing juveniles from the Sayre area," Custer County Sheriff Bruce Peoples told the paper. He told The Associated Press on Wednesday that investigators are still trying to determine whose remains were in the other car pulled from Foss Lake.

In both cases, those missing were believed to have been in an early-model Chevrolet like the one recovered Tuesday.

The state medical examiner's office said Wednesday it believes the remains of a total of six people were recovered. The Highway Patrol says three skulls have been recovered. It may, however, take years to identify the remains.

There have been theories from everybody," said Dayva Spitzer, publisher of The Sayre Record newspaper and a longtime resident. "Everyone suspected foul play. ... But every lead just went nowhere."

Authorities discovered the cars by accident. Betsy Randolph, spokeswoman for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, told the Associated Press dive teams were at Foss Lake conducting training with sonar when they came upon the vehicles last week.

"So they went back and did a scheduled dive today and were going to recover the cars. When they pulled the cars out of the water, the first one that came out they found bones in the car," she said.

The cars were submerged in about 12 feet of water and were only about 50 feet from the end of a boat ramp near a marina. But Peoples said it was no surprise that the murky waters held a secret.

"This lake isn't crystal clear. It's a typical western Oklahoma lake with a lot of silt in it. The visibility is only 6 to 12 inches on a good day," Peoples said. "We'll consider it a mystery until we prove otherwise."

The sheriff said it was entirely possible that people simply drove into the lake and drowned.

"We know that to happen, even if you know your way around. It can happen that quick," he added.

Peoples said he was confident the Camaro held the remains of the three teens, who were identified as Leah Johnson, Michael Rios and Jimmy Williams. The origins of the bones in the second vehicle were less clear.

Tim Porter of Enid said he believed the remains could be those of his grandfather, John Albert Porter, who disappeared along with two other people in 1969.

"Forty-something years of wondering who or why," Porter said. "If it is my grandfather in there, it's a gift."

The sheriff said Wednesday he was not sure whether the cars held the remains of five or six bodies. The state medical examiner's office believed the remains of six people were recovered.

The bones were being sent to the medical examiner's office for identification and to determine the cause of death.

Divers had found three skulls as of Tuesday evening. They planned to continue looking for more remains, said Oklahoma Highway Patrol spokeswoman Betsy Randolph.

Authorities hoped the discoveries would offer some relief to relatives who may have gone decades wondering about the fate of a missing loved one.

"We're hoping these individuals, that this is going to bring some sort of closure to some families out there who have been waiting to hear about missing people," Randolph said. "If that's the case, then we're thrilled."

The Associated Press contributed to this report