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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Jv7hh772s

I like Kevin.  He's the host of Voice of the People and was the One who interviewed Me.

FEMA REGION III & OCT 1st DEADLINE - Hawk 8/1/13 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2R7FmSr7Q)

Published on Aug 2, 2013
Foreign Troops Preparing? David Ells - 7/17/13

A friend sent this to me today with the following note: I did a little more work on Russian troop sightings and reports in areas southeast of Knoxville. See attachment.

Looks like you will get the Russians augmenting American forces for civil suppression. That is relatively good news for you folks. The people on the West Coast get the Chinese. They won't be as nice about it.

Please read the following and draw your own conclusions.
All this is scheduled to happen by October 1st.

> 15,000 Russians in Baltimore by October 1st.

> 82% of our combat forces and their supply elements out of CONUS by October 1st.

> FEMA purchase orders for over $14.2 million for MREs and heater meals to be delivered to Region III by October 1st.

> FEMA purchase orders for 22 million pouches of emergency water to be delivered to region III by October 1st.

> FEMA purchase orders for $13.6 million for MREs and heater meals to be delivered to Austin by October 1st.

> Nine-week training course for UN Peacekeepers in CONUS to learn Urban Warfare, English, and US weapons systems beginning 4th week of July for 386,000 troops to be completed by October 1st.

> $11 million in antibiotics to be delivered to FEMA region III by October 1st ordered by CDC.

> World Health Organization held second emergency meeting (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/statements/2013/mers_cov_20130717/en/index.html) in its history to discuss WHO | Coronavirus infections (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/coronavirus_infections/en/). Determined a vaccine MUST be in place by October 1st.

> ?2,800 MRAPs must be delivered to DHS by October 1st.


> No leave will be allowed for US military from September 28th thru November 5th.

> NORCOMM yearly training for civil unrest suspended until September 27th. To be performed in northeast coastal areas.

> Date for release of QE3 report moved to October 16th.

> All DHS agents MUST qualify with sidearm, shotgun and AR-15 by September 28th. No mention of yearly less-lethal qualification.

> Sporadic testing of GPS and Communications satellites is coordinated for the first time with a testing date of September 29th.

> POTUS mandates to FEMA and DHS concerning support for metropolitan communities dealing with the extreme climate change MUST be complete by October 1st. These mandates were issued during the last three weeks.

> Over 300 school systems in the US have determined they need three-day kits for each school AND three-day kits for each student to take with them. All deliveries are scheduled for the month of September.

> All National Guard units will complete riot control and disaster assistance training during this years annual two week training. All units MUST have their training complete by September 30th.

> Daily testing of the Emergency Broadcast System to begin on September 25th and run thru October 2nd.

> Eastern-based Coast Guard units to perform massive group training, usually performed in the Gulf, in the Virginia and Delaware areas. This is a 10-day training mission to begin September 26th.

> A sidenote to ponder: For the first time in the history of the United Nations, the Secretary General addresses the Assembly, a speech that was broadcast live to over 60 nations, to inform the assembly that while we are dealing with what appears to be two global crises -- extreme climate change and financial downturns -- the governments of the world are working together to resolve the issues before they reach catastrophic proportions. In other words, he addresses the Assembly and the world just to say everything is going to be okay.

In the love of Christ, M.H.   Jul 28, 2013
source (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=492)

ya know i really am getting tired of you gloom and doomers who only get your exercise from jumping to conclusions and
NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SEE IF THIS BULLSHI T IS TRUE

DAMN IT>> DO YOUR FRIGGIN HOMEWORK before passing on stupid stuff


the fact that i am getting annoyed at the stupidity tells me it's time to walk away and do something else

really tired of having to roll up my pant legs to read here....silly pilgrims.. you are not helping  with this stuff




http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/06/are-we-paranoid-enough-obamas-fema-russia-protocols-raise-serious-questions/

We have zero official sources for this

By the way, how can I be so sure this EU Times story is bullshi t?



Here, so far as I can tell, the "official sources" trail goes cold, because apparently Jess Bratton was on vacation or something and the FEMA Web site doesn't say a word about this meeting. Go search their site.

From the Russian source, we have news of yet another "protocol" agreement that involves "exchang[ing] experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters" and "U.S.-Russian cooperation . . . in 2013-2014? to include "provision of security at mass events."

Not a word in there about 15,000 Russian troops, though.

Where did that come from? So far as I can tell (and this is linked in Lisa Jennings' ViralRead article) the earliest mention of this is at a site called the European Union Times on June 27:

An unsettling report prepared by the Emergencies Ministry (EMERCOM) circulating in the Kremlin today on the just completed talks between Russia and the United States in Washington D.C. says that the Obama regime has requested at least 15,000 Russian troops trained in disaster relief and "crowd functions" [i.e. riot control] be pre-positioned to respond to FEMA Region III during an unspecified "upcoming" disaster.
According to this report, this unprecedented request was made directly to Minister Vladimir Puchkov by US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Director Janet Napolitano who said these Russian troops would work "directly and jointly" with her Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), part of whose mission is to secure the continuity of the US government in the event of natural disasters or war. . . .

That article is bullshit, so far as I can tell. It links to a seemingly legitimate Russian news site's report about the U.S.-Russian meeting, but that article says nothing at all about a report "circulating in the Kremlin" or Janet Napolitano requesting 15,000 Russian troops.  The EU Times (bullshit) article also says this:

FEMA Region III, the area Russian troops are being requested for, includes Washington D.C. and the surrounding States of Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, "strongly suggesting" that the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival should it be called upon to do so.

We have zero official sources for this, and good luck finding any mainstream news organization — Associated Press, Washington Post, Reuters, etc. — that has even taken notice of the June 25 U.S.-Russian meeting which (a) we know actually happened, based on a statement from the Russian agency, but which (b) apparently wasn't considered important enough to merit a press release from FEMA.

By the way, how can I be so sure this EU Times story is bullshit? Because if you keep reading, it goes off into a bunch of paranoid stuff about Edward Snowden and Michael Hastings, a problem that I tried to warn people about weeks ago (see "Hope, Fear and Michael Hastings," The American Spectator, June 21).

You've got emotionally disturbed hysterics like Glenn Greenwald deliberately stoking the flames beneath a boiling cauldron of paranoia — and being treated like serious journalists for so doing — yet it is impossible to say that any particular far-fetched fear is unfounded, because what we were promised would be "the most transparent administration in history" is in fact so opaque that everything they do looks like a conspiratorial cover-up.

(Incidentally, the White House press office still has not replied to my requests for information about the Benghazi attack.)

Fear and Loathing have become so pervasive, as I noted last week, that some people are starting to take Barrett Brown seriously. In this kind of paranoid environment, it becomes difficult for people to distinguish real threats from imaginary dangers. If a Web site says Janet Napolitano has requested 15,000 Russian troops to defend the D.C. region because "the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival" — well, yeah, it sounds crazy, but how do we know it's not actually true? Crazier things happen every day in the Obama Age.

Veracity NOT Required on FarceBook or Twatter 


Do not let it get to you  Remeber the immortal words of MARK TWAIN

"Never let TRUTH get in the way of a good STORY"

90% of reports and UFO material is total bull crap... yet the bull crap outsells the truth. Truth is boring, it has no pizzazz because it is... well... the TRUTH

If it wasn't for that 10% I would have quit a long time ago :D

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 22, 2013, 07:33:18 PM
Martial Law to be called on or about October first

I will be back on October 15th and expect your explanation of why it didn't happen :D

Fair enough?

::)

Yeah and you can ask Kevin too :P

Dear Ms Otter:

We have done our friggin' homework.

And you provided a link that was never discussed and took issue with it.   :P

We notice you took umbridge with only ONE item in a lengthy list
of items that might concern others less informed than thou.    ;)

Perhaps you might address a few more salient points so we might compare notes.    ;D

Let's start with just how many of the points made in our post can you label as FALSE and provide proof?

Thank you for your time and consideration.


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QuoteIf it wasn't for that 10% I would have quit a long time ago

Yeah, me too.
I guess that's why i still watch dumb vids on YT ;D
In the case of actual workable inventions it's more like 0.001% :P

Certainly this one was a bit shocking, i was thinking 'Sure glad i don't live in the US of A in the "Oh,Bummer" age'............

To be honest i didn't check the source, i don't have time for a lot of it, and the video had a nice schock horror presentation. Like Z says, it is entertainment.

If it is verified, then i guess it then becomes news.........

Besides, if there's something happening in a particular area at a set date, we should have other info by now.
How about military freinds & relatives? Troop / equipment movement in section 3?
Somebody must know something, and no offence Thor, but going on a single source is risky at best... i imagine you have more sources, right?

What p's me off is i'm going to miss the farm aid concerts because of the time difference.
I hope somebody's filming it :)

https://www.youtube.com/user/farmaid/videos


Willie Nelson - Song 8 Medly (LIVE AT FARMAID 2013) (https://www.youtube.com/user/farmaid/videos)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/willie3.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk58M5CSqwI

well i cant provide a link because i dont fb.but there is the trucker protest 11-13 oct.
supposedly per before its news.the canadians have joined and the numbers are geting large.fb will start cutting the actual numbers if they get too high .i saw it happen w prop 420 in cali.
im all for not spending money those three days as i will surely be broke.
i would like to have folks at truckstops posting pictures of truckers and trucks that do try to move that day.
personally i think it should be a general worldwide strike.

Convoy to D.C. – Truckers To Shut Down America In October (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5322.msg72301#msg72301)

Quote from: zorgon on September 22, 2013, 09:52:16 PM

I will be back on October 15th and expect your explanation of why it didn't happen :D

Fair enough?

::)

Yeah and you can ask Kevin too :P

Shooting at the messenger, huh? 

Thor. i was not just yelling at you personally .. so sorry if it seemed that way.. and truly it wasn't personally directed..but it still gets me mad and i did mean it.. :(

so rather than hunt down and answer every point
i came across a bunch of comments that may do some of that and yes i did cherry pick.. tossed out
the religious ones
and i never read comments but i think i may have changed my mind on that
here's the link if you want to go read them all..
i have a football game to watch.. even though those steelers are bums this year


you remind me sooo much of my brother
so here's a hug for being you.. even if i think you're nuts   ;) ;D



oh and for the kids.. school starts in sept and mostly they are making plans in case of disaster in their area...preperation usually helps keep the anxiety level down..





http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/fema-preparing-major-event-region-iii/#



71 Responses to FEMA Preparing For A Major Event In Region III



Derp says:
September 20, 2013 at 10:59 am
You people are idiots. Soooo ironic this article is on a site with "Sleuth" in the name.
i like this guy..



So....his basis for this grand conspiracy theory is that everything is due by October 1st. How could there possibly be ANY other explanation right?  right..lol


Except that the fiscal calendar for the federal government goes from October 1 to September 31st. If they are buying something with FY13 budget money, it HAS to be invoiced before October 1st. I sell software to the federal government. My shit is due by then too. OH NO!! CONSPIRACY!

There are requisitions for toilet paper out there with the same date.....

You sir, and all those who believe this, are idiots...yep like this guy too..

durrrrr says:
September 20, 2013 at 12:29 pm
thank you! im in the military and im stationed in your "region 3? and im taking leave right before halloween.... so i dont know where you are getting your info from but uh, its freaking wrong.


michie says:
September 20, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Other than September having 30 days, you're right. I'm expecting a ton of packages on Monday as we just finished up all the last-minute orders.

But I doubt people care on a conspiracy website.

30 days hath September, April, June, and November.

All the rest have 31, except for February cus it's weird.


Urinal Gum says:
September 20, 2013 at 10:37 am
Shorty's got some l33t freestyle conspiracy-theorizing skillz, yo!


Do Tell Me More says:
September 19, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Gosh thanks for telling me about this! Really, I had no idea that this kind of thing was happening. Please subscribe me to every single one of your mailing lists. Signed, Dumber Than A Bag Of Hammers, c/o The Tea Party, The Flat Earth Society, The Heritage Foundation supporters, Alex Jones fans, Rush Limbaugh fans, Wesboro Baptist Church supporters, and professional wrestling fans. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god you people are stooooooooooopid. You don't believe in evolution because you're TOO DUMB. You're the STUPID half of the population, the football fans, the rednecks, the people who buy pet rocks and listen to country music, the members of the 700 Club, the anti-immunization folks, the guys who get dragged away by the cops wearing wife-beater shirts and yelling SHE DUN HIT ME FIRST!


Yep says:
September 20, 2013 at 11:40 am
Wow.. If those folks are as dumb as you say you are... Then what does that make you? Got it if ya spot it.


Twisted says:
September 22, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Well listen here dude we dumb folks love football we blast to country music and we would love to have a pet rock but we do have a very very good education and it does not matter what kind of person you are that is highly offensive and I don't know where you are from but get the F**k over yourself.!!! You shouldn't judge people just for where they live.!! Its people like you that are a disgrace to all of AMERICA. because of your stereotypical minds.


toadboy65 says:
September 19, 2013 at 7:51 pm
What I think is sad about this article is that there are actual people out there, inside and outside of the government, who are actively planning and doing terrible things. We are not going to learn about their evil deeds, because the subtle clues we need to know are hidden behind crazy, unsourced rants like this article. People like you are not going to notice the real problems because you are too busy looking up at the imaginary chemtrails, left by the homosexual United Nations reptilian secret Muslims.



Anonymous says:
September 19, 2013 at 12:02 am
I think it is wise to be prepared, BUT please do your homework. I researched this article and it's so called "facts". Songstad is a senator whose last term was in the 80?s. Also, there is no vaccine available for MERS nor is it treatable with antibiotics. I do not trust our gov't, but neither do I trust this website. This is my last visit here due to the deliberate inaccuracy of this article.


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JAXON says:
September 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm
I want to know the sources for the information provided by Mr. Songstad.

Nicholai Bush says:
September 18, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Perhaps this is in preparation for the fallout of a government shutdown. What would be the effect on the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency, backed solely by the faith that the US will repay its debts, if the government is so dysfunctional, it cannot agree on how to repay those debts?

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Someone who thinks says:
September 16, 2013 at 3:33 pm
ok there is plenty wrong with this. 1) all international peacekeeping troops have been mandated to attend compulsory English classes as the U.S. and U.K. have the largest peacekeeping presence in the world. 2) the same organizations have been using US military equipment since well before the Kosovo conflict in the 1990?s. it's why rounds such as the 5.56×45 and the 7.62×51 are classified as NATO rounds not US rounds. 3) DHS agents such as USCIS, USCBP, Coast Guard, and Secret service have long been mandated to qualify at least once per year with all these weapons. (emphasis on Secret Service who are required to do it 4 times a year.) and there is also a reason FEMA and the CDC in region three would be stocking up on ready to go meals and vaccinations and antibiotics and other medicines...IT'S THE START OF HURRICANE SEASON.

Denis says:
September 19, 2013 at 9:53 pm
What? Since when was October the start of hurricane season??? It's nearly the end of hurricane season.

But I do agree that this post is bogus. 400,000 UN troops training in US. Bunk. There are only 82,000 UN troops total and they're already dispersed in 15 different missions.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/operations/current.shtml

What's wrong with these people???

Well, is it a false story or is it real and being denied (OH!  They would NEVER deny truth, lie to Us, cover up stuff!!!)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSCtCahZStw

This maybe nothing but WTH.

Last week my zombie sister (I have 3 zombie sisters) and I were driving south from Green Bay to Appleton on 41 south and I see a bunch of tan military humvees going north real fast. Than another group and another group and another with several tankers. All in all, maybe like 30 or 40.

No idea as to why or were they were going but they was traveling 65 - 70 mph in traffic. They could be headin for marinette and boarding a navy ship for over seas, I don't really know.

Last time I saw military traveling at highway speed was the gulf war and they were mobilizing to a gulf port. I was going 70 in my truck and they weren't lettin me by as I went to pass em.

This October thing has been floating around from last year and somethings going on.

That is all

Edit to ad: better draw down your bank account for good measures. I just did mine and the bank had a conference with me right after the draw down. The teller gives me the cash and says I have to talk with the banker guy over there in the cubicle.

I go over and he wants to update all my information and says I should take a credit card out and some other credit. I say, I don't do credit and he gets more serious.

When the bank holiday hits, your money is locked away and so is your debit/credit card. The hurricane sandy showed the northeast sheeple how it works when trying to buy and the power is down. No money, no nothin cause credit cards don't work when power is off and banks don't hand out money either.

Damit, another edit: for those who failed to get the memo, they are going to perform a drill on the nations power grid going down either this month september or october, maybe november. This will include canada and mexico so expect some false flag shenanigans with banks and your money.

and you only put as much cash in the bank to pay the current bills..the rest goes in the tin can buried under the rock in the garden..the digging can always be explained..lol



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/us/as-worries-over-the-power-grid-rise-a-drill-will-simulate-a-knockout-blow.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

As Worries Over the Power Grid Rise, a Drill Will Simulate a Knockout Blow


By MATTHEW L. WALD
Published: August 16, 2013

WASHINGTON — The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

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.This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

They will practice for a crisis unlike anything the real grid has ever seen, and more than 150 companies and organizations have signed up to participate.

"This is different from a hurricane that hits X, Y and Z counties in the Southeast and they have a loss of power for three or four days," said the official in charge of the drill, Brian M. Harrell of the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, known as NERC. "We really want to go beyond that."

One goal of the drill, called GridEx II, is to explore how governments would react as the loss of the grid crippled the supply chain for everyday necessities.

"If we fail at electricity, we're going to fail miserably," Curt Hébert, a former chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, said at a recent conference held by the Bipartisan Policy Center.

Mr. Harrell said that previous exercises were based on the expectation that electricity "would be up and running relatively quick" after an attack.

Now, he said, the goal is to "educate the federal government on what their expectations should or shouldn't be." The industry held a smaller exercise two years ago in which 75 utilities, companies and agencies participated, but this one will be vastly expanded and will be carried out in a more anxious mood.

Most of the participants will join the exercise from their workplaces, with NERC, in Washington, announcing successive failures. One example, organizers say, is a substation break-in that officials initially think is an attempt to steal copper. But instead, the intruder uses a USB drive to upload a virus into a computer network.

The drill is part of a give-and-take in the past few years between the government and utilities that has exposed the difficulties of securing the electric system.

The grid is essential for almost everything, but it is mostly controlled by investor-owned companies or municipal or regional agencies. Ninety-nine percent of military facilities rely on commercial power, according to the White House.

The utilities play down their abilities, in comparison with the government's. "They have the intelligence operation, the standing army, the three-letter agencies," said Scott Aaronson, senior director of national security policy at the Edison Electric Institute, the trade association of investor-owned utilities. "We have the grid operations expertise."

That expertise involves running 5,800 major power plants and 450,000 miles of high-voltage transmission lines, monitored and controlled by a staggering mix of devices installed over decades. Some utilities use their own antique computer protocols and are probably safe from hacking — what the industry calls "security through obscurity."

But others rely on Windows-based control systems that are common to many industries. Some of them run on in-house networks, but computer security experts say they are not confident that all the connections to the public Internet have been discovered and secured. Many may be vulnerable to software — known as malware — that can disable the systems or destroy their ability to communicate, leaving their human operators blind about the positions of switches, the flows of current and other critical parameters. Experts say a sophisticated hacker could also damage hard-to-replace equipment.

In an effort to draw utilities and the government closer, the industry recently established the Electricity Sub-Sector Coordinating Council, made up of high-level executives, to meet with federal officials. The first session is next month.

Preparation for the November drill comes as Congress is debating laws that could impose new standards to protect the grid from cyberattacks, but many in the industry, some of whom would like such rules, doubt that they can pass.

The drill is also being planned as conferences, studies and even works of fiction are raising near-apocalyptic visions of catastrophes involving the grid.

A National Academy of Sciences report last year said that terrorists could cause broad hardship for months with physical attacks on hard-to-replace components. An emerging effort led in part by R. James Woolsey, a former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, is gearing up to pressure state legislatures to force utilities to protect equipment against an electromagnetic pulse, which could come from solar activity or be caused by small nuclear weapons exploded at low altitude, frying crucial components.

An attack using an electromagnetic pulse is laid out in extensive detail in the novel "One Second After," published in 2009 and endorsed by Newt Gingrich. In another novel, "Gridlock," published this summer and co-written by Byron L. Dorgan, the former senator from North Dakota, a rogue Russian agent working for Venezuela and Iran helps hackers threaten the grid. In the preface, Mr. Dorgan says such an attack could cause 10,000 times as much devastation as the terrorists' strikes on Sept. 11, 2001.

Despite the growing anxiety, the government and the private sector have had trouble coordinating their grid protection efforts. The utility industry argues that the government has extensive information on threats but keeps it classified. Government officials concede the problem, and they have suggested that some utility executives get security clearances. But with hundreds of utilities and thousands of executives, it cannot issue such clearances fast enough. And the industry would like to be instantly warned when the government identifies Internet servers that are known to be sources of malware.

Another problem is that the electric system is so tightly integrated that a collapse in one spot, whether by error or intent, can set off a cascade, as happened in August 2003, when a power failure took a few moments to spread from Detroit to New York.

Sometimes utility engineers and law enforcement officials also seem to speak different languages. In his book "Protecting Industrial Control Systems From Electronic Threats," Joseph Weiss, an engineer and cybersecurity expert, recounted a meeting between electrical engineers and the F.B.I. in 2008. When an F.B.I. official spoke at length about I.E.D.'s, he was referring to improvised explosive devices, but to the engineers the abbreviation meant intelligent electronic devices.

And experts fear government-sponsored hacking. Michael V. Hayden, another former C.I.A. director, speaking at the Bipartisan Policy Center conference, said that the Stuxnet virus, which disabled some of Iran's centrifuges for enriching uranium, might invite retaliation.

"In a time of peace, someone just used a cyberweapon to destroy another nation's critical infrastructure," he said. "Ouch."


A version of this article appears in print on August 17, 2013, on page A11 of the New York edition with the headline: As Worries Over the Power Grid Rise, a Drill Will Simulate a Knockout Blow..

you want more??.. let me know..cause it seems to be coming out of the walls now




http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/08/whats-really-behind-the-rumor-that-dhs-is-bringing-15000-russian-soldiers-onto-u-s-soil/


What's Really Behind the Rumor That DHS Is Bringing '15,000 Russian Soldiers' Onto U.S. Soil?
Jul. 8, 2013 5:15pm Liz Klimas

With headlines like "DHS: Napolitano Is Bringing 15,000 Russian Troops to the U.S." and others following similar suit, you might be wondering what is going on here.
It turns out, a whole lot of rumor.

The rumor mill had been churning out that "15,000 Russian soldiers trained in disaster relief and 'crowd functions' [i.e. riot control be pre-positioned to FEMA Region III during an unspecified upcoming disaster."

Snopes, a website whose mission it is to correct misinformation, called such claims "alarmist, far-fetched interpretation of the original announcement, which said nothing about Russia's providing security for events taking place within the U.S."

The announcement that spurred this rumor was about the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry and the U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, agreeing to "exchange experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters." This agreement was made last month and is said to be a renewable of an already held partnership.

According to the Russian government website, the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations created a protocol "for expert cooperation in disaster response operations and to study the latest practices."

The Russian News agency Ria Novosti further dunked the rumor, saying last week it confirmed with a FEMA spokesman that there would be "no exchange of security or military personnel."

"The agreement continues information-sharing meetings and observation opportunities with first responders and emergency managers," the spokesman said, according to Ria Novosti.





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and while I do not consider rense a good source..even he is showing it a joke.. this is only a piece of his stuff but I especially liked this first paragraph



http://www.rense.com/general96/priceoftreason.html

Retired South Dakota State Senator Songstad" turns out to be an ex-government representative who runs a camera shop in a small town. He has never had any background in any of what he talks about. His active role in government ended over twenty years ago. Next up in the video is the supposed training that will be completed on October first for the newly armed forces. Nero's Amerikan armed force will supposedly surpass the number of troops that the entire US military currently has (just over 2 million troops ­ mostly overseas).







First it is important to note that having heavy weapons and uniforms does not a fighting combat-soldier make. Russia's troops are battle-hardened and their troops are conditioned to survive the elimination of officers and NCOs' alike; to be able to continue to fight.

Amerika's homeland security forces are exactly the opposite. If their "leaders" are taken-out they will fall apart like baskets of leaves in an autumn Hurricane ­ because these children have no personal skills and no combat experience. Nero is trying to convince Americans that the feral government has successfully created a huge military force in just a few months to replace, in America, the over two million troops we already have. That is flat out lie. They have used the DHS purchases of weapons, bullets and equipment to convince the militarily-illiterate enslaved public that we will be wiped out against their overwhelming military odds. This is an even larger-fantasy. Their military-projections have not addressed any facet of their promised treasonous-force which would be needed to totally subdue the American public!

In fact the truth may be that what Nero has armed might rebel and turn their weapons against the criminals in this sham government that Israel now owns lock-stock & barrel. Rumors of Russian or Chinese troops training in Amerika to take-over America are pure fantasy! The public that buys into this only does so because of the left-over red-scare from the days of the USSR that was activated during the cold war.

Today's Russian forces are trying to keep the world from being forced into a Third World War and China is with Russia ­ all of which is conveniently left out by the Warmongers-of-September in the Jewnited States of Israel.

The Roman-numerals of FEMA regions are real. The North American Union is real. The UN was given the entire US 5th Army to control the entire northwestern US, (20,000 US troops). But twenty-thousand troops even with the other supposedly 385,000 raw recruits is nothing in the grand scheme of things ­ especially given the size and diversity of this continent ­ not to mention the over 2 million guns this country has: Most of which are in the hands of people who know how to use them. All that has been missing is the will to do so and it is that which Nero is trying everything to force Americans to do - so they can openly declare the real-WAR they just can't wait to start.

Here's a video that helped spread some of the rumors:

Just my thoughts on this subject, - the best reason I think for this to be a "nothing subject" is..................we the people are too well prepared with weapons and ammo, for self defense, that there is no way this such could successfully be accomplished - obviously in my opinion. There are many millions of Americans who would quickly recognize "martial law" for what it is, and combat it directly.

The 2 million bikers (whatever the real number actually was) to Washington DC is just a "drop in the bucket" for the number of Americans all over this country, who are ready and willing to do whatever is necessary to defeat an illegal inside attack upon this country. And, I am certain this is a well known fact, including up to and including the POTUS.


If such were to take place, the people of this country would solidly unite so fast, the opposition would not stand a chance. And additionally, our military soldiers and airmen who volonteer to serve, volunteer to serve to fight for us and our country. Most of them would not support and would fight against any such dictatorial take-over attempt.

Things are already beginning to take place, toward righting this great country. The successful Colorado State Congressional "recalls" is one of the early examples of this happening. And we are going to begin to see similar recalls and/or the voting box taking out elected officials similarly, because of horrible representation.

Our being ready for any emergency is just good common sense, but I do not expect to see this happening, as it would be a pretty dumb move!! :))

And in support of my comments, here is 3 year old a video with over 10 million watches that speaks well to the heart-felt views of many of the people of our nation!! The major points presented by the video are very obviously more poignant today, than even in 2010


                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE                                                   

on the recall subject.i believe the local media does not have the influence it use to have.the internet is taking control away from tptb.ie.the tea party scares the hell out of them.im very curious if tptb try to hijack it.if they do it will happen through rand for sure.his spine keeps softening.and the msm has really been showing cruz so much that now im worried hes in with them.looking forward to nov 2

Quote from: sky otter on September 22, 2013, 09:34:56 PM

ya know i really am getting tired of you gloom and doomers who only get your exercise from jumping to conclusions and
NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SEE IF THIS BULLSHI T IS TRUE

Agreed.  The fact that this sort of garbage is pretty much the only thing that gets posted any more, is the reason why I hardly ever check back here, any more.  I'm sick of it.  I'm especially sick of the fact that if anything is said in opposition to it, those who want to keep wallowing in, and spewing this crap, insist that they have some sort of moral duty to perpetuate it as much as possible, and that in fact, I'm the bad guy for daring to say anything.

Amy, I've waited a long time to say this, because I really do not want to cause conflict between you and me, but I'm going to say it now.

You are not going to get TAP, by focusing, constantly, incessantly, and exclusively, on its' diametric opposite.

TAP is not going to come about, as a result of you fixating on information about when the American government is going to introduce martial law.  TAP is not going to come about, as a result of you promoting minute-by-minute information about what the Lizard Hearted are doing.  That will not produce the result that you say you want.  It will produce, as mentioned, the direct opposite.

The other thing that makes this material even more tedious, as Otter has mentioned, is the fact that it is virtually never verifiably true.  There have been rumours and false reports of FEMA camps opening, and a takeover of America by foreign troops, for at least 25 years now.  As a result of this, if you post any information, which is not traceable to any source other than the Web sites of shell shocked Vietnam veterans, then you are wasting everyone's time.


To dispense with a few of your other usual sources, I am also going to definitively say this:-

Benjamin Fulford is a crank.  I'm talking a Sorcha Faal level crank, here.  Nothing he has ever said, that I have seen, is verifiable.  We need to stop making excuses for him.  The man is full of crap, full stop.

Alex Jones is also a sensationalistic crank, who virtually never performs due diligence, and who works himself into screaming fits over things which never end up happening.

Stop listening to these people, stop taking them seriously, and stop wasting other people's bandwidth with their rubbish.  We need to demand a much higher standard from ourselves.  Stories need to be verifiable from at least 3-4 different sources, and ideally, we need to be able to verify individual details from each story from as many different sources as possible, as well.

I am not an arbitrary skeptic.  I have never been; but at the same time, I do not advocate a complete lack of rigour, either.  Pull your socks up, and start making sure that what you post, has at least some vague possibility of being the actual truth, rather than just spraying it everywhere because it looks sensationalistic. 

Most of the Fukushima stuff that I've been able to track down has generally ended up being either complete garbage, or at least severely exaggerated, as well.  I have had enough.

i like amys possitive attitude.i like that she dares to go where we do not and dream.for it is our dreams that leads to a future reality .a reality that may be my grandchildrens.
tap may have a future we are to small minded to accept at this time.
just a theory.hell amy may be smarter than the rest of us combined.

yes doom porn is out there.i admit i get sucked in sometimes but more often i look for links due to habits ive picked up from yall.i sometimes think we all need each other .to keep our minds sharp and on our toes.

Quote from: robomont on September 23, 2013, 06:45:52 AM
i like amys possitive attitude.i like that she dares to go where we do not and dream.for it is our dreams that leads to a future reality .a reality that may be my grandchildrens.
tap may have a future we are to small minded to accept at this time.
just a theory.hell amy may be smarter than the rest of us combined.

I like that as well, robo.  Amy has always been a kindred spirit of mine, here.  My intent was not to attack her, but to point out that if we want TAP, we need to focus on TAP; not the Georgia Guidestones scenario which would lead us in the other direction.

I think TAP is actually coming.  There are things which continue to happen, which are actually conducive to TAP's adoption and implementation.  I just want to encourage Amy to maybe try focusing a little more on those, rather than on all of the negative stuff that is going on; as much for her own sanity, as for ours.

I know people are going to think this; that my intent with Amy was negative, and vicious, but it wasn't.  I've watched her on Twitter at times, though; and the message isn't so much about TAP now.  It's just all about the evil stuff that the government is doing.  It has honestly scared me; as though said governmental depravity has even managed to destroy her own optimism.

I don't want that to happen.  I don't want it to happen to any of us.  I know how black things are in America right now; I know it just as well as any of you, and maybe better than some.

All I am asking you to do, however, is not to give in to complete despair.  Don't focus continually on how bad everything is.  Look for the good; look for light.  Look for people trying to do what they can to drive back the darkness.  It is there...if you look for it.

yes i too have dark days.you are right  to look for the light.

Sadly, I must agree about Fulford, Zap and others.  We keep seeking hope and getting disappointed.

I will say that every time I read Wilcock's latest book promotion, I learn something new, that I had never heard of.  Still, here we are.

In some circumstances, we are left with choosing between crazy or just insane - as with the 'Ghost' cities that China has built.  Did they actually build cities for a half million people a pop (that no one lives in), just because they got carried away?  Or is it really preparation for Alien refugees come to live on earth?

I still wanna know, is there any time limit built into any secret treaty with aliens? Like 2015?

I'm feelin' a lot like my fundamentalist past here.  Armageddon is close but never shows up.

On the other hand, maybe the OP is right.  I just found this on GLP.

http://www.politico.com/playbook/0913/playbook11706.html

SHUTDOWN COUNTDOWN: 10 days -- ALAN GREENSPAN WARNS: 'no viable long-term solution to our badly warped economy' without fixing political system -- WHITE HOUSE SIGNALS Janet Yellen nomination coming

So perhaps October finally will be the month when it all happens...or perhaps not.

Time will tell.

Quote from: sky otter on September 22, 2013, 09:34:56 PM

ya know i really am getting tired of you gloom and doomers who only get your exercise from jumping to conclusions and
NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SEE IF THIS BULLSHI T IS TRUE

DAMN IT>> DO YOUR FRIGGIN HOMEWORK before passing on stupid stuff


the fact that i am getting annoyed at the stupidity tells me it's time to walk away and do something else

really tired of having to roll up my pant legs to read here....silly pilgrims.. you are not helping  with this stuff




http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/06/are-we-paranoid-enough-obamas-fema-russia-protocols-raise-serious-questions/

We have zero official sources for this

By the way, how can I be so sure this EU Times story is bullshi t?



Here, so far as I can tell, the "official sources" trail goes cold, because apparently Jess Bratton was on vacation or something and the FEMA Web site doesn't say a word about this meeting. Go search their site.

From the Russian source, we have news of yet another "protocol" agreement that involves "exchang[ing] experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters" and "U.S.-Russian cooperation . . . in 2013-2014? to include "provision of security at mass events."

Not a word in there about 15,000 Russian troops, though.

Where did that come from? So far as I can tell (and this is linked in Lisa Jennings' ViralRead article) the earliest mention of this is at a site called the European Union Times on June 27:

An unsettling report prepared by the Emergencies Ministry (EMERCOM) circulating in the Kremlin today on the just completed talks between Russia and the United States in Washington D.C. says that the Obama regime has requested at least 15,000 Russian troops trained in disaster relief and "crowd functions" [i.e. riot control] be pre-positioned to respond to FEMA Region III during an unspecified "upcoming" disaster.
According to this report, this unprecedented request was made directly to Minister Vladimir Puchkov by US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Director Janet Napolitano who said these Russian troops would work "directly and jointly" with her Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), part of whose mission is to secure the continuity of the US government in the event of natural disasters or war. . . .

That article is bullpoop, so far as I can tell. It links to a seemingly legitimate Russian news site's report about the U.S.-Russian meeting, but that article says nothing at all about a report "circulating in the Kremlin" or Janet Napolitano requesting 15,000 Russian troops.  The EU Times (bullpoop) article also says this:

FEMA Region III, the area Russian troops are being requested for, includes Washington D.C. and the surrounding States of Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, "strongly suggesting" that the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival should it be called upon to do so.

We have zero official sources for this, and good luck finding any mainstream news organization — Associated Press, Washington Post, Reuters, etc. — that has even taken notice of the June 25 U.S.-Russian meeting which (a) we know actually happened, based on a statement from the Russian agency, but which (b) apparently wasn't considered important enough to merit a press release from FEMA.

By the way, how can I be so sure this EU Times story is bullpoop? Because if you keep reading, it goes off into a bunch of paranoid stuff about Edward Snowden and Michael Hastings, a problem that I tried to warn people about weeks ago (see "Hope, Fear and Michael Hastings," The American Spectator, June 21).

You've got emotionally disturbed hysterics like Glenn Greenwald deliberately stoking the flames beneath a boiling cauldron of paranoia — and being treated like serious journalists for so doing — yet it is impossible to say that any particular far-fetched fear is unfounded, because what we were promised would be "the most transparent administration in history" is in fact so opaque that everything they do looks like a conspiratorial cover-up.

(Incidentally, the White House press office still has not replied to my requests for information about the Benghazi attack.)

Fear and Loathing have become so pervasive, as I noted last week, that some people are starting to take Barrett Brown seriously. In this kind of paranoid environment, it becomes difficult for people to distinguish real threats from imaginary dangers. If a Web site says Janet Napolitano has requested 15,000 Russian troops to defend the D.C. region because "the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival" — well, yeah, it sounds crazy, but how do we know it's not actually true? Crazier things happen every day in the Obama Age.

Whilst I admire your fact checking skills, I feel the level of your anger is unjustified. The OP led to it's own debunking, therefore, it wasn't a worthless endeavor :P

Petrus,


There is a difference between finding something of interest that may raise awareness of the depth of the doodoo We are in - and FOCUSING on it.  [smile]

My FOCUS is on spreading awareness of a SOLUTION, but most here have heard it before and then I am labeled (somewhat in jest, I hope) a "spammer" if I bring it up.

So I offer the speculation and thoughts on things that may or may not end up [truthful, important].   (You may note that in Kevin's piece, He DID say that there was no corroborating evidence on the 15,000 Russian troops and to make of that piece of info what You will.)

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 23, 2013, 06:21:09 PM
My FOCUS is on spreading awareness of a SOLUTION, but most here have heard it before and then I am labeled (somewhat in jest, I hope) a "spammer" if I bring it up.

I see your point, there.  I hope I haven't alienated you completely. *hugs*

I feel the level of your anger is unjustified

not anger..i don't do anger any more  ;D

just a day where i got pissed off at a waste of time taken to debunk bullshi t
from smart folk who really are normally above being taken in

Quote from: petrus4 on September 23, 2013, 06:41:03 PM
I see your point, there.  I hope I haven't alienated you completely. *hugs*

[hugs!]  You'll not alienate Me, Petrus.  I adore You!

Quote from: sky otter on September 23, 2013, 06:41:25 PM

I feel the level of your anger is unjustified

not anger..i don't do anger any more  ;D

just a day where i got pissed off at a waste of time taken to debunk bullshi t
from smart folk who really are normally above being taken in

Agreed - 'frustration' is a better term  :)