Entrance to Agartha?
Somewhere in Portugal :D
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That's amazing. I love visiting places like that. Do you know where in Portugal it is?
Looking :D
The Inverted Tower, Sintra, Portugal.
The "Initiation Well" or "Initiatic Well" (sometimes referred to as the "Inverted Tower") is a 27 meter staircase that leads straight down underground and connects with other tunnels via underground walkways. A similar structure is the Pozzo di S. Patrizio in Italy.
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Quinta da Regaleira
Quinta da Regaleira is an estate located near the historic center of Sintra, Portugal. It is classified as a World Heritage Site by UNESCO within the "Cultural Landscape of Sintra". Along with other palaces in this area (such as the Pena, Monserrate and Seteais palaces), it is one of the principal tourist attractions of Sintra. It consists of a romantic palace and chapel, and a luxurious park featuring lakes, grottoes, wells, benches, fountains, and a vast array of exquisite constructions. The palace is also known as "Palace of Monteiro the Millionaire", from the nickname of its first owner, António Augusto Carvalho Monteiro.
Pozzo di S. Patrizio in Italy
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Entrance to the Labyrinthic Grotto, Sintra, Portugal
Looks like LOTS of tunnels and grottos... We need to send ArMaP for a look :P
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The Labyrinthic Grotto seen from the lake.
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Tunnel starting from the Eastern Grotto.
The floor: Order of Christ Cross over the armillary sphere.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Regaleiracapelainterior.jpg)Palacio da Regaleira, Sintra, Portugal. Foto tirada por Hugo Lopes em julho de 2005
ok i'm intrigued
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_Augusto_Carvalho_Monteiro
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António Augusto Carvalho Monteiro (1848 – 1920), also known as Monteiro dos Milhões (Monteiro the Millionaire), was born to Portuguese parents in Rio de Janeiro. He inherited a huge family fortune, which he enlarged in Brazil by selling coffee and precious stones, which soon made it possible for him to leave for Portugal. He received a degree in Law from the University of Coimbra, and was a well-known collector and bibliophile, with a superb collection of the works of Camões. His cultural interests certainly influenced and guided the mysterious symbols and iconography of the palace that he had built on his estate nestled in the mountains of Sintra, the Palácio da Regaleira.
Carvalho Monteiro was represented in the press of his time as both an altruist and an eccentric, exemplified by his famous Leroy 01, "the most complicated clock in the world."
Carvalho Monteiro had the same architect who built the Palácio da Regaleira, Luigi Manini, build his tomb in the Cemitério dos Prazeres. The door of the tomb, also encrusted with symbolism, was opened with the same key that opened the Palácio da Regaleira and his palace in Lisbon, on the Rua do Alecrim. As visitors enter the cemetery grove, they encounter the tomb on the left, with the orientation, size, and shape of a Masonic temple, oriented towards the east. It is covered in various symbols. The door knocker is engraved with a bee carrying a skull. The bee, which is diligent and hard-working, represents the Mason in his organized work. The gradeamento which can be seen in the back of the tomb, is festooned with the symbolic wine and bread, the spirit and the body. There are also decorative owls, symbolizing wisdom, as well as poppies, the symbol of eternal sleep.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu%C3%ADs_de_Cam%C3%B5es
Camões lived a semi-privileged life and was educated by Dominicans and Jesuits. For a period, due to his familial relations he attended the University of Coimbra, although records do not show him registered (he participated in courses in the Humanities). His uncle, Bento de Camões, is credited with this education, owing to his position as Prior at the Monastery of Santa Cruz and Chancellor at the University of Coimbra. He frequently had access to exclusive literature, including classical Greek, Roman and Latin works, read Latin, Italian and wrote in Spanish.[citation needed]
check out the door at the very end of the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bof6blzCIGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bof6blzCIGk
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Sintra lies in the splendid coastal landscape of western Portugal just north of Lisbon. Numerous kings and other aristocrats built their summer retreats in this miniature paradise. In the 19th century Sintra became the first centre of European Romantic architecture.
Quinta da Regaleira is an impressive inheritance situated in the old part of Sintra. The country estate is surrounded by gardens and forests and bears the mythical and magical marks of the former owner Antonio Augusto Carvalho Monteiro.
We decide to enter the spiritual domain by climbing the stepping stones. The cave symbolises rebirth, at the end of the birth canal shines the eternal light. Monteiro and his architect Luigi Manini maintained the same philosophy of life. The imagination of the two men created various artistic expressions.
After the trip through the nine-floored cave, the visitor can receive another reward seeing other works of art and the delightful nature of the country estate.
But first we go through the hidden door in the rock, taking the final threshold to the Christian world. Other visitors take the trip in opposite direction, choosing the pagan way, which is quite a different story.
Themes of mystical life are represented in all sorts of ways. The Portuguese myths and esoteric traditions found fertile ground at the Quinta.
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Wow!!
That door is awesome!! First time I have seen an actual working secret rock door outside of Hollywood
The whole place is oozing with Knightly/Masonic/Rosicrucian symbols. Absolutely incredible. Thanks for posting this Zorgon and Sky.
Damn you Zorgon. My list of places to tick off before I die gets longer. Shouldn't it get shorter as I get older? :o
Quote from: Pimander on October 06, 2013, 12:22:05 AM
Damn you Zorgon. My list of places to tick off before I die gets longer. Shouldn't it get shorter as I get older? :o
to Shorten that List...
...we needz GOLD
or a sponsor :D
that is super cool.armap where you at?
Ya, old Edward Leedskalnin had that all figured out when he single handily laid out coral castle with the swinging several tonne door.
Quote from: Pimander on October 06, 2013, 12:22:05 AM
Damn you Zorgon. My list of places to tick off before I die gets longer. Shouldn't it get shorter as I get older? :o
At least this one is not that far away. :)
Quote from: Pimander on October 06, 2013, 12:22:05 AM
The whole place is oozing with Knightly/Masonic/Rosicrucian symbols.
The Order of Christ was just a different name given to the Knights Templar in Portugal, where they weren't persecuted. That cross was on the sails of the ships that made the first exploring of the coasts of Africa and latter reached India and Japan and found Brazil, that's why it's common to see it associated with the armillary sphere.
My sister (the same that may have visited Quinta da Regaleira) went to the Convent of Christ (the headquarters of the Order of Christ) two or three times, she knows the responsible for the conservation of the convent (I think).
Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 11:59:04 PM
Carvalho Monteiro had the same architect who built the Palácio da Regaleira, Luigi Manini, build his tomb in the Cemitério dos Prazeres.
I was born in Lisbon, some 300 metres from that cemetery. :)
Here's a photo of his family tomb.
http://www.historiadeportugal.info/historia-de-portugal/cemiterio-dos-prazeres/cemiterio-dos-prazeres-47.JPG
I somehow lost a post. ???
My sister did went to Quinta da Regaleira once, and she said that she had a deja-vu when she got out of the cave from the iniciatic well, and she thought that she had once been there when she was a child (which is not possible, since they opened it to the public just some years ago and she is one year older than me) and that they had swans in the lake. :)
She also said that, according to some people, the well already existed when Monteiro bought it (the oldest reference to that estate is from the 1600s) and it may have been used in some rituals, as Sintra was the most important centre (as far as is known today) of some religious cults, some of them (like the worshipping of the Sun, the Moon and Saturn) since before the Roman invasions.
Here's (http://cliente.digisfera.pt/regaleira-2.8/interactive/) a virtual tour of Quinta da Regaleira. :)
And, just to finish, the watch, the most complex watch ever made until 1989, when Patek Philippe made a watch to celebrate the 150th anniversary.
Leroy 01 (http://www.mdt.besancon.fr/retour-de-la-leroy-01/)
Leroy 01: One of the most complicated watches in the world (http://www.horozima.com/2010/05/leroy-01-one-of-most-complicated.html)
Quote from: ArMaP on October 06, 2013, 12:00:50 PM
The Order of Christ was just a different name given to the Knights Templar in Portugal, where they weren't persecuted.
The other European country where the Templars were not persecuted was Scotland. The Scottish nobleman were not afraid of the Pope or the French and housed many of the Templar Knights when they fled France.
Rosslyn Chapel was built by them, allegedly the dimensions are an exact copy of the original Jerusalem Temple. Another rumour is that the Templar's treasure was hidden in the vault beneath Rosslyn.
(http://www.e-architect.co.uk/images/jpgs/scotland/rosslyn_chapel_s260110_4.jpg)
SOURCE: http://www.e-architect.co.uk/scotland/rosslyn_chapel.htm
Below is a laser scan of the Temple where the vault can be seen. The vault was "unknown" until more recently.
(http://www.e-architect.co.uk/images/jpgs/scotland/rosslyn_chapel_s260110_3.jpg)
SOURCE: http://www.e-architect.co.uk/scotland/rosslyn_chapel.htm
Here are some Templar graves in Scotland which prove they were there.
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SOURCE: http://www.papadonkey.net/templars/templarbritain/temple%20scotland/templescothome.htm
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SOURCE: http://www.papadonkey.net/templars/templarbritain/temple%20scotland/templescothome.htm
Below is the grave of William de Saint Caire. The St Claire family are now known as the Sinclair family. They owned the Rosslyn site and likely built it.
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QuoteThis is the grave of William de St. Clair, the Knight Templar who was killed in Spain while trying to carry Robert the Bruce's embalmed heart to the Holy Land in 1330.
This pink stone marking the knight's grave was originally situated by an earlier church which stood just below Rosslyn Chapel. It is now in the North Aisle of Rosslyn Chapel.
On the top is the floriated cross, a symbol of the Knights Templars, which forms a chalice or grail. There is also a carving on the top of a "west Highland" type sword, and the name "Willhm de Sinncler" is carved on top as well.
SOURCE: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42304632@N00/161441654/
Rosslyn Chapel deserves a thread all on it's own.. if it's not already here..
i can't tell you how much time i have spend on that alone
but hadn't heard about the vault.. oh boy more stuff to search..
ok..back to the kitchen
Quote from: Pimander on October 06, 2013, 02:27:04 PM
The other European country where the Templars were not persecuted was Scotland. The Scottish nobleman were not afraid of the Pope or the French and housed many of the Templar Knights when they fled France.
That's the biggest difference between what happened in the two countries, in Portugal they weren't refugees, they kept all their possessions, they just changed their name.
Quote from: zorgon on October 06, 2013, 12:19:58 AM
Wow!!
That door is awesome!! First time I have seen an actual working secret rock door outside of Hollywood
Yeah WOW
Leedskalnin also had a revolving rock door as you know very well ;)
And heck yeah Armap get your butt there if you can ;)
Quote from: ArMaP on October 06, 2013, 04:51:48 PM
That's the biggest difference between what happened in the two countries, in Portugal they weren't refugees, they kept all their possessions, they just changed their name.
There were some already in Scotland who kept their lands. The refugees were from France obviously. Don't forget, the Sinclair family still own some of their former estates.
Quote from: Pimander on October 06, 2013, 06:10:13 PM
There were some already in Scotland who kept their lands.
Were they established in the country as they were in Portugal, with at least one fortress and convent? The Knights Templar, after renamed to Order of Christ, remained in Portugal until the end of the religious orders with the end of the monarchy, although it still exists, at least in name.
Order of Christ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Christ_(Portugal))
Quote from: ArMaP on October 06, 2013, 06:35:02 PM
Were they established in the country as they were in Portugal, with at least one fortress and convent? The Knights Templar, after renamed to Order of Christ, remained in Portugal until the end of the religious orders with the end of the monarchy, although it still exists, at least in name.
Order of Christ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Christ_(Portugal))
I think they had two preceptories in Scotland back then so they must have been established in some way, yes. They were not as established as in Portugal though. Many of them moved to Scotland to avoid the persecution and are rumoured to have helped (disputed by some historians) the Scottish to defeat the English at The Battle of Bannockburn.
Points to Ponder Jules Verne's Story
The Story...
Giant crystals beneath the Earth on the way to the center...
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Recently discovered reality
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Points to Ponder Jules Verne's Story
The Story...
Giant Caverns with Lush and Strange Vegetation
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Reality...
Recently Discovered Giant Don Doong Cave in Viet Nam with Lush Vegetation
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Points to Ponder Jules Verne's Story
The Story...
Strange Creatures and Dinosaurs spotted on the way to Inner Earth
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Reality...
Waiting for Joe Resnick's Journey to Malaysia into the Forbidden Zone :D