Good news from Peru this week as it's been announced the country has reopened it's official UFO Research Office (OIFAA) -it states at one of the Spanish links that the reactivation is due 'in response to the significant increase in claims and reports on Anomalous Aerial Objects commonly referred to as UFOs in the skies over Peruvian Territory' so it really does look like there's been an increase in unexplained reports -it also goes on to mention incidents in La Molina, Marabamba and 'a recent sighting by officials in the jungle' so it would be nice to hear more about those.
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Peruvian Air Force to Research Anomalous Aerial Phenomena
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QuoteThe Peruvian Air Force will launch a specialized department this coming Friday, October 18, 2013, that will study the UFO phenomenon. The Anomalous Aerial Phenomenon Research Department (DIFAA) will be formally launched in Lima, Peru at the offices of the "Dirección Nacional de Intereses Aero Espaciales" (DINAE) of the Peruvian Air Force that will formally host the new UFO Department.
Link (http://exonews.org/peruvian-air-force-research-anomalous-aerial-phenomena/)
Below is a statement about Peru's new UFO office from the head of the Directorate of Air Space Interests (DINAE) and there's also a relevant vid but unfortunately it's in Spanish. :(
QuoteTV RPP – FAP INVESTIGATES UFO OCCURRENCES – DINAE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlVIcX_p3jE
QuoteWe are interested in people observing seemingly unconventional phenomena, which cause surprise or concern, know that there is an institution that will do an adequate study and research your information in order to respond.
From this date, people witnessing anomalous aerial phenomena seen in your area or anywhere in the country can report their observations through pictures or your own testimony, spokesmen reported.
link (http://www.cronicaviva.com.pe/index.php/lima/6-lima/78795-fap-reactivo-investigacion-sobre-avistamiento-de-ovnis)
Quite a refreshing attitude for a government to have towards its citizens and guess Peru now join Chile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngj8gtGCxBU), Argentina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpsvEX8u7bM) and Uruguay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htrz6lmZq5c) as responsible governments responsibly investigating reports of unidentified flying objects in their respective airspace -as discussed in this (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4314.0) thread it also looks like Brazil are taking matters seriously by getting their MOD to call in UFO researchers to formally discuss the subject earlier this year.
Other links:
Peruvian Air Force to re-open UFO investigation department (http://www.openminds.tv/peruvian-air-force-to-re-open-ufo-investigation-department-1173/)
Peru's air force reinstates UFO department (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/peru/10391594/Perus-air-force-reinstates-UFO-department.html)
It's a shame they can't investigate the sightings in the USA, UK and Canada near military test sites. :P
Quote from: Pimander on October 24, 2013, 04:00:42 PM
It's a shame they can't investigate the sightings in the USA, UK and Canada near military test sites. :P
That really is a shame mate. :)
Seems the USA
was pretty interested in one of Peru's military base UFO incidents though (even though they completely deny taking an interest in UFOs since 1969).
La Joya military base UFO - April 11th, 1980 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5582.0)
There's also a relevant link below where it mentions that Peru has experienced 'hundreds of UFO sightings over or near military bases, atomic silos, warships, transport and combat aircraft' and it's also quite refreshing to read of an Air Force Officer who actually does perceive UFOs to be a threat to national security.
QuotePeru's UFO Office Officially Opened in 2002
QuoteDirectly following the March 2002 first-ever visit by an American President, George W. Bush, to Peru, the Peruvian Air Force installed an "Office of Investigation" to track alleged UFOs whose flashing lights are said to distract pilots and radar operators from doing their jobs. The Air Force is concerned about the disturbances in our air space,'' said Air Force Commander Julio Chamorro, whose new office received funding from unknown sources. He sees unidentified flying objects as a threat to national security.
Link (http://www.labyrinthina.com/ufo4.htm)
There are also claims made in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyP88bY61I) film (around 6:10) describing how 'the U.S. Secret Services offered significant economic and career related incentives to Ecuadorian Military personnel so that information and documents pertaining to UFOs were concealed' so let's hope that doesn't happen in Peru.
Cheers.
After seeing the peru crash video.i think the usa has already got to the peruvian gov.this is probably just gonna be their version of project bluebook.just wait.in five to ten years it will be announced that it was all swamp gas.
My guess that the usa cant afford to test here anymore as we know whats up.my guess peru with its low iq folks probly think they are gods and the usa are the messengers.or its our new flight test area.high altitude and dry climate .perfect enviroment for high voltage craft.
Quote from: karl 12 on October 27, 2013, 06:06:33 AM
Seems the USA was pretty interested in one of Peru's military base UFO incidents though (even though they completely deny taking an interest in UFOs since 1969).
I've said this many times and I'll say it again.... There is no way the military can ignore UAPs and credibly say that they are doing their job. To ignore any USO or UAP would be dereliction of duty. Even Nick Pope openly admitted this years ago.
Quote from: Pimander on October 27, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
I've said this many times and I'll say it again.... There is no way the military can ignore UAPs and credibly say that they are doing their job. To ignore any USO or UAP would be dereliction of duty.
Bloody good point mate and when it comes to the West it really
is a sad state of affairs when citizens in countries like the U.S. and U.K. witness UFOs in cases like Stephensville, Holland Michigan, O Hare etc. and then have no-one to officially report them to because 'UFOs are of no defense significance' and the government has 'no interest' in unidentified flying objects -it's been asked before but if these objects
are unidentified then how the Dickens can they know they are of no defense significance?
Could all be smoke and mirrors but the opposite attitude towards its citizens
does seem to be emerging from the South American countries and there's a good interview below with Colonel Julio Vucetich, the director of Peru's Department of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena Research (DIFAA) who discusses subjects like what constitutes anomalous aerial phenomena and where to send the reports - he also mentions his country having international meetings about the UFO investigative office to coordinate and exchange information (and states that
France, Italy and Spain are the most advanced).
QuoteSpeaking to elcomercio.pe, the director of the Difaa, Colonel Julio Vucetich, criticized those who mock the seriousness of the issue and stressed that the department may conduct joint with similar entities in other countries so that in Peru there was substantiated information.
QuoteIn which countries in the region have similar departments?
For example, in Chile with the Committee for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena (CEFAA), the Study Commission of the UFO Phenomenon (Cefora) in Argentina, the Commission of Inquiry into Allegations Recipient and Unidentified Flying Objects (CRIDOVNI) of Uruguay. We're going interconnecting bilateral meetings to exchange information and have coordination meetings. The most advanced are the Europeans, France, Italy and Spain.
Link (http://elcomercio.pe/actualidad/1647883/noticia-peru-investigara-avistamiento-ovnis-conoce-como-reportarlos)
There's also a relevant vid below featuring an interview with Dr Choy who founded the OIFAA and he describes how sightings in Chulucanas prompted the Peruvian Military to start officially investigating the UFO subject in the first place.
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xznTumToivI
QuoteHistory Channel interview Dr. Anthony Choy, founding member of OIFAA, Ufo Office of the Peruvian Air Force, about "The Chulucanas Incident" first Ufo Official Case of Perú. The Interview, was in July 2008 in San José, California during 39 th. Annual Internacional UFO Symposium MUFON. Dr. Anthony Choy was a important speaker in that event and he spoke about his "Project 33", the first integral study about the Ufo Phenomenom in Perú.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fF27iedPg
The Chulucanas Incident And Other Concepts (http://www.rense.com/general54/chulu.htm)
Peru Military Actively Investigating New UFO Sightings (http://www.rense.com/general35/sisn.htm)
It also turns out that computers containing classified UFO records were stolen from OIFAA offices back in 2004 but still looking into that. :)
Cheers!
Quote from: robomont on October 27, 2013, 06:16:40 AM
After seeing the peru crash video.i think the usa has already got to the peruvian gov.
Yes mate when it comes to interviews with remarkable content I think that video's got to be up there as one of the most interesting of the lot and I guess all it boils down to is whether you believe him or not (his body language, eye movements, tone inflections etc..) do suggest to me he isn't making it up though.
Opens up another huge can of worms if we've got a multi-national, multi-disciplinary investigation team operating outside international law free from any kind of congressional oversight or budgetary constraints running about (and if I'm being honest then I know I'd want something similar if I was in charge of UFO investigations).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VaeZRH9R2Y
Quote from: robomont on October 27, 2013, 06:16:40 AM
this is probably just gonna be their version of project bluebook.just wait.in five to ten years it will be announced that it was all swamp gas.
You could be right there and it wouldn't be the first time an institution claiming to run objective investigations has collected UFO information from the public only to casually dismiss the subject a few years later - let's hope youre no though!
Cheers.
Quote from: karl 12 on October 31, 2013, 08:03:15 AM
Opens up another huge can of worms if we've got a multi-national, multi-disciplinary investigation team operating outside international law free from any kind of congressional oversight or budgetary constraints running about (and if I'm being honest then I know I'd want something similar if I was in charge of UFO investigations).
Unless you were responsible for many of the events to be investigated and they were your secrets. If that were the case, then you would want to be in control of the investigation yourself or make sure they were not done properly to stop disclosure of said secrets. ;)
Fair comment mate but if you were in charge of (or responsible for) many of the UFO events discussed on these boards and 'they were your secrets' then why on earth put the objects on display smack bang in the middle of populated areas?
Here's a good example of an object making right angle turns and emitting light beams onto the surface of a lake in Australia.
QuoteThe Gosford Incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHQSE2uxDUA
Quote"At first I thought well maybe it's some sort of meteorite but it was too large, it was travelling too slow and turned a right angle which I know meteorites aren't inclined to do"
1996 NSW Central Coast Flap (PDF File) - page 17 (http://www.ufor.asn.au/pages/ufor/magazine/UFO_Reporter_V5_1.pdf)
I don't profess to know what the hell's going on when it comes to the UFO subject (and it really does seem to me like the more you research the more clueless you become) but to my mind the secret military testing hypothesis has never really cut the mustard - apologies in advance if I've misunderstood your comments!
Cheers!
Quote from: karl 12 on November 05, 2013, 04:59:26 PM
I don't profess to know what the hell's going on when it comes to the UFO subject (and it really does seem to me like the more you research the more clueless you become)
Perhaps that is deliberate? Aspects of the phenomenon seem to deliberately defy rational explanation.
Quotebut to my mind the secret military testing hypothesis has never really cut the mustard - apologies in advance if I've misunderstood your comments!
The recent (post 1930s), manifestation of the phenomenon might be in large part testing. Obviously that hypothesis does not mean there haven't been the odd real ET visit.
I have a lot of ideas about how and why but want to gather my material before I go too mad on a forum.
Quote from: Pimander on November 07, 2013, 11:52:06 AM
Aspects of the phenomenon seem to deliberately defy rational explanation.
Sure do mate, here's some more Peruvian reports of UFO attacks (and attempted abductions) on jungle residents which sound very similar to the Colares (http://ufologie.patrickgross.org/htm/colares.htm) case from back in 1977 (Spanish language - sourced by Trueman):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry04cF0FgP0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kS6dupgsQ
Also a bit more here (http://www.diariohoracero.com/actualidad.php?edicion=67¬icia=3) about all of Peru's stolen official classified UFO records back in 2004.
Cheers!