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Title: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:14:16 AM
Chernobyl Disaster Documentary

From the meltdown to the coverup and the aftermath... Quite a story


many people have forgotten about Chernobyl, even though it has been mentioned in the light of Japan's Fukushima nightmare. Yes that is still ongoing, again little heard about it in the mainstream news. But this is about Chernobyl and the 500,000 Russian soldiers, miners and workers who worked BY HAND to remove the radioactive waste...

Two documentaries... one the accident, the cleanup and the aftermath, the second a revisit, into the tomb that sealed it, to see the current status. The sarcophagus that entombs it has gone 25 years past its designed limit and a new cover is needed, something that will outlast the Pyramids of Egypt

See the story presented by the news reporter who was literally in the air above it when it happened... and he had no idea the danger he was in.

Imagine moving by hand, with simple lead plated tied with ropes as your shielding, pieces of radioactive core material so hot it destroyed robots and a man could only be there 45 seconds at a time.

This incident ended the cold war. The Russians decided that dropping a bomb on someone just was to scary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSRC1_OZPIg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zByDY-nPNJc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9DX_QXU_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DFcFRxiTFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVx9gRS3ug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdCU2vqNUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omyOnaKxbas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWID6WjeEU
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:18:03 AM
This was the first I heard about the radioactive  cloud covering that much of Europe as well and the French denial.

At the end of the movie they briefly show the "Woodpecker" antenna array. That was near Chernobyl but they didn't cover the connection. Very odd that. Perhaps they meant that that project was also effected because they called it Chernobyl 2 in the video. Maybe it was close enough to be contaminated too, or they just shut it down. "Woodpecker' was not nuclear that I know of, unless they powered the antennas with a reactor...

More homework now

Russian Woodpecker
Duga radar array, Chenobyl, Ukraine

51°18'20.17"N, 30°04'02.60"E

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Krug/Woodpecker_array_a.jpg)

Yup contaminated area... I just never noticed the faint radiation symbol

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Krug/Woodpecker_23164504.jpg)

More here
www.thelivingmoon.com... (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Russian_Bases_Woodpecker_Duga_Radar_Ukraine.html)
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:21:18 AM
Originally posted by snoopyuk (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663958/pg1#pid10618866)

Hi there Zorgon,

yes the effects were bad. We had to sell our family farm in SW Scotland due to the sheep being contaminated for several years.

as for the woodpecker , i was told by an old boss of mine at QinetiQ (who was from the Ukraine ) that it was indeed powered from the next door plant.

keep up the good threads,

snoopyuk
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:25:28 AM
Inside Chernobyl's Sarcophagus

QuoteInside Chernobyl's Sarcophagus - Russian scientists visit the inside and make some amazing discoveries as they risk their lives. Ed note: For the first time Western camera crews were allowed in (reluctantly)

    This episode won an Emmy. It covers the sarcophagus built to contain the remains of the
    destroyed reactor and the work of the Russian scientists, staff and soldiers who risked
    and continue to risk their lives in the clean-up operation.

    "This file was digitized from a VHS recording of the program. The picture quality is
    fair, however, the sound track has some occasional static, especially towards the
    beginning.

    I think this is the 1996 updated version of the original 1991 program and includes an
    extra 10 minutes of interviews with several of the original scientists. It is shorter
    than the 60 minutes described on the BBC website and may have been edited."

NOVA - Inside Chernobyl's Sarcophagus part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo0ZbGP65JM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dicw4YMel0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa4qfzZRzQw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9hiGF34haI

Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:28:29 AM
Chernobyl The Lost Film

QuoteThis film shows the terrifying images captured by the Russian filmmaker Vladimir Shevchenko on scene at Chernobyl those dreadful days in April 1986. Shevchenko later died suffering from the radiation he exposed himself to. Sadly, his name is not among the official casualties of the accident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjAAzkrXSA
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:34:10 AM
And the second set of videos, those scientists going in with nothing but a cloth mask and plastic sheet with scotch tape...   :o

Chernobyl Were Did the Nuclear Fuel Go?

The 'Elephants foot', a massive nuclear fuel and sand mass

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_01.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_03.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_04.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_05.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_06.png)

The 'Elephants foot' showing where it melted through the floor

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_07.png)

Drilling into the chamber below the reactor and sending in a camera to search for the fuel

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_08.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_09.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_10.png)

Nuclear Lava

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_11.png)

Nuclear Lava
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:39:57 AM
The Day of the Explosion

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/First_Picture.png)

First image of Explosion taken by helicopter news reporter who was first on the scene

One day the emissions from Chernobyl just stopped. They had no idea why, so sent in scientists to find the answers. That is an amazing video. The length of time they spent inside, the levels they were exposed to and the repeated trips they made wearing almost nothing in protection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KeSXMTzt6M

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_12.png)
Cross section of reactor before explosion

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_13.png)
Explosion rips of top of reactor and crushes reactor down

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_14.png)
Entire core melts through bottom of reactor

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_15.png)
The molten lava releases and mixes with the sand around the reactor (yellow)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_16.png)
Molten lava burns through concrete floor

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_17.png)
Circle marks where the "Elephant's Foot" was found

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_18.png)
Molten lava burns through concrete floor and pours down tubes

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_19.png)
Molten lava vitrifies (turns to glass from the sand) and cools. Uranium fuel is trapped inside and can no longer become fissionable. However a new examination is showing the glass is deteriorating and water is seeping in again

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_20.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_21.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Chernobyl/Chernobyl_Melt_22.png)


EDIT TO ADD:

Seems I cannot find another copy of this video as I din't put the title first:

But I did find this one:

The Chernobyl Disaster: How It Happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ptI6Pi3GA
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:43:49 AM
Originally posted by bronco73 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663958/pg2#pid12221787)


Just thought I'd add a bit to this thread, that disaster was something I will never forget. Anyways, on to my post:

There is this guy that runs a site called englishrussia.com and on his site he has several pages of excursions to the plant and to chernobyl and the town of Pripyat. I'm not sure if he is the one that took the photographs or if somebody else did, but there is some amazing photography of the area around Chernobyl and Pripyat.

Chernobyl 25 Years After (http://englishrussia.com/2011/05/31/chernobyl-25-years-after/)
Chernobyl Nowadays (http://englishrussia.com/2011/05/16/chernobyl-nowadays/)
Coming Back to Chernobyl (http://englishrussia.com/2011/04/25/coming-back-to-chernobyl/)
this one has many pictures of the plant after the disaster:
25 Years of Radiation (http://englishrussia.com/2011/04/24/25-years-of-radiation/)


There are literally dozens of pages like those above that are dedicated to the Chernobyl disaster.
Search Term: Chernobyl (http://englishrussia.com/?s=chernobyl&x=0&y=0) Viewing those pages are like an emotional roller coaster, awesome stuff for sure.
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2011, 07:51:47 AM
Shades of Fukushima?

(http://media.englishrussia.com/newimages/25radiationyears-12.jpg)

(http://media.englishrussia.com/newimages//chernobol36gs18.jpg)

Awesome collection of photos, thanks to Bronc073  for adding those

Posted on May 31, 2011 by Valeria

The name of Chernobyl has become common as a symbol of the greatest human disaster. But the men's memory is organized to lose some life details or pungency of feelings in the lapse of time, all happened things become fuzzy and vague, as somebody reduced the depth of focus. The same story concerns Chernobyl and its lamentable fame. We hoped and sincerely believed that this huge catastrophe would never recur. But dreams didn't come true. One day an enormous 10-metres wave induced by the earthquake near Japanese shores damaged the nuclear power plant "Fukushima-1?.


Chernobyl 25 Years After (http://englishrussia.com/2011/05/31/chernobyl-25-years-after/)

Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: SarK0Y on September 06, 2011, 04:51:05 AM
Thanks for  links, Amicus. Matter of fact, we've needed to decommission Fukushima - like scum before  & to prevent new disasters.
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: bobathome on June 02, 2012, 02:46:27 AM
Thanks for  links, Amicus. Matter of fact, we've needed to decommission Fukushima - like scum before  & to prevent new disasters.

"like scum before" actually we need everyone,,
including some " scum ",,on this.
remember even scum have a mum.

Me.
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on August 29, 2013, 12:29:32 AM
New Sarcophagus for Chernobly under construction now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OFEI8S5rG0
Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on August 29, 2013, 02:27:16 AM
QuoteAt the end of the movie they briefly show the "Woodpecker" antenna array. That was near Chernobyl but they didn't cover the connection. Very odd that. Perhaps they meant that that project was also effected because they called it Chernobyl 2 in the video. Maybe it was close enough to be contaminated too, or they just shut it down. "Woodpecker' was not nuclear that I know of, unless they powered the antennas with a reactor...

At a guess yes... Huge amounts of Electrical energy would have been required to power "Woodpecker".

I can't remember what the signal strength was down here in NZ, (monitored at Himatangi Radio Station)
but if I remember correctly, it was quite high.


Credit; Foxton Historical Society"


(http://www.digitalnz.org/thumbnails/from_large/664/?resize=520x840&src=http%3A%2F%2Fhorowhenua.kete.net.nz%2Fimage_files%2F46087%2FF2000.2007_large.jpg)

Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on July 13, 2018, 09:50:40 AM
Spooky Dolls of Chernobyl
Posted on February 3, 2015
By Tim


Alexander has travelled to Chernobyl nine times. He says that of course it looks pretty dramatic – all the empty houses, forest grown inside the house with bushes higher than a few stores, abandoned things and furniture in the apartments. But what touches him most are the abandoned little dolls that still can be found under loads of dirt, dry leaves, they are still there, as they were left in 1986.

"Epsecially I was moved by the dolls left in the empty kindergartens and pre-schools. Those dolls symbolize something that has been lost forever – the lost childhood. The open eyes of the dolls – they look at you and wait if you can change the things back, to the used and well known routine".

Want to see more? Welcome inside:

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls11.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls12.jpg)
These dolls were left here 28 years ago.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls13.jpg)
"That's a symbol of stopped childhood, violently abrupt.", says Alex.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls14.jpg)
"...and the sadness of loneliness".

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls15.jpg)
"...the horror of abandonment".

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls16.jpg)
"..and the hope to get into the past. The doll waits that someone would finally pick it up.
It's a chocking effect – it demonizes me and delight at same time" – says the photographer.


Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: zorgon on July 13, 2018, 09:52:25 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls17.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls18.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls19.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Pripyat/dolls20.jpg)
"Dolls are the most shocking thing for me in Pripyat, other objects don't impress me that much", concludes Alexander.

Thanks Alexander for the photos!

SOURCE: ENGLISH RUSSIA
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Russian_Chernobyl_Spooky_Dolls.html


Title: Re: Chernobyl Disaster Documentary
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 04, 2019, 09:40:28 PM
Just finished watching the 5 part min series Chernobyl on HBO.

https://youtu.be/nyzE79snf7c

of course there is more but the acting and story telling and the epilogue is scary. (as if you weren't already)  :o ::) :(