I have been going deeply into the nature of Our present "government," discovering it (along with virtually all other "governments," including the States) is listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a corporation.
It would seem that since the Act of 1871, We have not seated representatives to legitimate governments, but instead, "electing" (according to the vote counters) CEO's of a corporate entity.
Here are some vids I have found on the subject, as well as ones that suggest remedy within the system (which I would eliminate fully, as it is open always to money/power usurpation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgyztsj7O6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UajWQbXDblI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPkauG6qE8k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzmUuKd6ucM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMMnJWExNU
And a link for additional info:
Corp. U.S. - the Columbia Organic Act of 1871
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/813840/posts
This is huge can of worms your opening.. Simply put, it's not just the USA that is a corporation in every sense of the word, but every western country that counts it's citizens as collateral 'or property' on which to borrow from the financial institutions. You have only to look at your legal documents i.e Driver's License and see your name in CAPITALS to understand this.
The question is are you a natural person or an artificial person in the eyes of the law?
QuoteA Driver's Licence is a good example of a contract between the artificial-person JOHN DOE and the natural-person John Doe, with one major difference. In Statute Law, the name of the CORPORATION is represented by all capital letters JOHN DOE (See Capitalization for this deduction). In Admiralty Law (law of the Sea where the Captain of the ship is king) the military representation for the name is reversed and becomes DOE, JOHN also called the "nom de guerre", or name of war. This is the style used to refer to the names of the dead soldiers killed during a war (it should be noted that corporations are actually dead entities just as the soldiers are dead). Under military rule (as is the case in Admiralty Law) offenses are usually treated as "absolute", viz. guilty until proven innocent.
Such is the case with a Driver's Licence. The Licence is issued to DOE, JOHN and when the natural-person John Doe signs the Driver's Licence, he agrees (by making a contract) to abide by the Admiralty laws of the Motor Vehicle Act (formerly) and therefore is guilty until proven innocent. This is why traffic tickets are Absolute Liability offenses and very difficult to negate.
In fact any contract in the name of DOE, JOHN is the most restrictive contract with the greatest possible liability for the natural-person party to the contract.
Source http://www.natural-person.ca/licence.html (http://www.natural-person.ca/licence.html)
QuoteThere are five different levels of capitalization used in names of "persons"
human-being: john doe
natural-person: John Doe
quasi natural/artificial-person: John DOE
corporation/artificial-person: JOHN DOE
Nom de Guerre: DOE, JOHN
Here is a summary of the rights and freedoms of the above "persons":
The human-being has all the unalienable rights and freedoms as provided by God.
The natural-person has the rights and freedoms as provided by man with the Magna Charta and Canadian Bill of Rights.
The quasi natural/artificial-person has lost some rights, but not all rights. At this time it is not evident how to quantify which rights have been lost.
The corporation/artificial-person has limited rights and freedoms as provided by the creator of the Corporation.
The Nom de Guerre (name of war) has no rights and freedoms and is a complete slave to the Admiral.
Source http://www.natural-person.ca/capital.html (http://www.natural-person.ca/capital.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phYS3MybZQ0
Now it's possible, with a LOT of difficulty, to become a 'Freeman of the land' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land) that recognizes common-law as opposed to statute law which the latter they view as a contract, but this has had little or no real success in the courts.
To understand how corporations operate it's easier to observe them from the bottom up approach. I.E how does my state created strawman connect with the corporation and how does it effect me.. When I register anything like a car for example, it's a legal contract with the state giving them power over how I can use that car thereafter and to pay it's taxes due and conform to it's 100's of road laws etc etc...
This video makes the above point clearer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cmc12Dvqhs
I have been considering not renewing my license because of the exact things you post.im considering going sovereign.im still looking into it.
Sovereign citizen is a big can of worms for the govs at all levels.
Thank You, Freelancer, for adding more to this compilation. I think We ALL would do well to study these vids, research, in order to make truly informed choices for Our lives.
In truth, I am reluctant to get a new DL for this very reason (needing a birth certificate not withstanding). I want to be sovereign. Wait... I AM sovereign.
It gets to Me that so many are presumed to "consent" without full grasp of what They are consenting to.
TECHNICALLY...
You do NOT need a driver's license to move around the country in today's 'horse and buggy' The right of freedom of movement was included in the old Illuminati document called "The Constitution"
The caveat is 'for personal transportation' so you need a license to earn a living with the vehicle
PRACTICALLY
How many cops do you think KNOW this?
So you could carry a copy of the legislation with you in case you get pulled over and see if that will help (before you get tazed for well whatever :D ). Then you can take it to the judge and have your lawyer point out the legality
So isn't it easier to show your papers, say yes sir no sir and be on your way with a smile?
yeah yeah I know... conformatism :P But I have learned that they have guns and tazers and your NOT gonna win in an open confrontation
Now if you want to change things...
...start a revolution :P I will get the popcorn and watch... to old for combat and being a foot soldier with a pitch fork :D But I will cheer ya on :D
FYI this fact on the driver's license was first presented by our spook fried NJ Mooch back at ATS..
Oddly enough despite all those spouting "I'm gonna be FREE" Not ONE person was brave enough to try it
Velcome to Amerika... Land of the WUSS!
::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqFgUZcVDfo
States can write laws for individuals.feds have authority over commercial drivers.texas has person laws.that sux.
I suppose it's all useful knowledge to know, the practicalities however of making use of all this knowledge on how corporations operate is a moot point. Going Sovereign or Freeman is extremely difficult to do while your living within the confines of a 'corporation'.
Here's the kicker.. To become a 'Sovereign citizen' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement) or 'Freeman of the Land (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land)') within a corporation controlled country you rely primarily on 'Common Law' (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Common_law (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Common_law)) however, 'Common Law' has no legal status per-se (being superseded by state & federal laws) then your up against a brick wall from the start. In this case all you can do is stay under the radar if you can.
Basically, if you live within a corporation you abide by it's rules and regulations because you have no other choice, or you wait for the revolution to come to change all this *laughs*.
Well, I think that revolution is coming. More and more are waking up to this fraud perpetrated on all of Us. If 99% ignored the corporation, went a new direction, what could that 1% do?
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 01:07:46 AM
Well, I think that revolution is coming. More and more are waking up to this fraud perpetrated on all of Us.
I think the problem is that not all people see the same reasons for a revolution, for it to be successful, a revolution needs organisation, something that is missing and is hard to find when not all people share the same ideas and only share a feeling that things must change.
Thus My work, ArMaP. Hoping to have a common goal out there.
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 01:16:04 AM
Thus My work, ArMaP. Hoping to have a common goal out there.
Expecting other people to share our own goals is not the same thing as looking for a common goal, sometimes it's easier to do the opposite and forget our own goals to achieve the best result for most people.
I don't see anyone doing that.
there's no revolution coming..there's no big anything coming
sad fact is that folks don't revolt till THEY think there is nothing else for THEM to loose
some may be waking up to fraud but that doesn't mean they will do anything
but maybe talk about it and guard what they have
Quote from: ArMaP on November 18, 2013, 01:48:00 AM
Expecting other people to share our own goals is not the same thing as looking for a common goal, sometimes it's easier to do the opposite and forget our own goals to achieve the best result for most people.
I don't see anyone doing that.
So... You advocate hoping someOne comes along with an idea better than any that One has Oneself? That We all hunt for someOne else with a good idea? Where will the ideas come from?
Frankly, ArMaP, if You can't tell that My sole goal is to achieve the best result for most people by this point, I stand aghast.
Quote from: sky otter on November 18, 2013, 02:09:20 AM
there's no revolution coming..there's no big anything coming
sad fact is that folks don't revolt till THEY think there is nothing else for THEM to loose
some may be waking up to fraud but that doesn't mean they will do anything
but maybe talk about it and guard what they have
And You don't think that head is being approached at this time? Million mask marches, ObamaNoCare affecting millions, and more and more?
Ok.
Quotethere's no revolution coming..there's no big anything coming
sad fact is that folks don't revolt till THEY think there is nothing else for THEM to loose
some may be waking up to fraud but that doesn't mean they will do anything
but maybe talk about it and guard what they have
Quote
And You don't think that head is being approached at this time? Million mask marches, ObamaNoCare affecting millions, and more and more?
Ok.
I have never see a million people together, just because they use that number does not mean a million people showed up. At any time I have only seen a few hundred to a thousand maybe.
Sky is right, People only do this when they are up against a wall. No food no money, being shot at and dieing left and right. As long as they have food in their bellies, a home to live in and Cable TV they won't do it.
As long as TPTB walk the line they will be safe. What American is going to give up their soaps or MTV just to go out and get killed or arested. When was the last time you marched on Washington with 999,999 friends with the same goal... Even a March won't do anything, they would have to take over. And if the military and police were not on your side you would end up in those pretty camps busting rocks.
No revolution here, move along........
Deuem
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 01:07:46 AM
Well, I think that revolution is coming.
We are a long way from revolution. Sure the talk is there but for most people things are not that bad yet. Take Vegas for one... construction starts are up on many new mega projects... so there will be new jobs and a new prosperity. People will sigh with relief and get back on with it.
Hitler was in power long before the people figured out they were up the creek... took a war to get him out
McCarthy was locking up US citizens for even thing the 'C' word... that too rolled over the people before they did anything
QuoteMore and more are waking up to this fraud perpetrated on all of Us.
"Waking up" is really a silly phrase. All over facebook and twatter people say "Wake up sheep" usually attached to some phony 'truth'. No one is really waking up to anything... they are all just following the latest TREND. 80% of those saying "Wake Up" have no clue of reality. Any real truth on the internet is so badly distorted by the very people who claim to be 'researching the truth' that government agents can sit by an laugh
I have tried many times over the last few months picking some key people that seemed smart on FB and pointing them at facts. All I get for my trouble is being called a troll and them telling me to 'go do some research' LOL
QuoteIf 99% ignored the corporation, went a new direction, what could that 1% do?
Hitler and Co. were the 1%
Genghis Khan and his horde was the 1%: 'I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.', '
The PTB currently really running the show is the 1%
But the 99% will NEVER go in a new direction NOT EVER. When America broke from Britain only 20% mustered... the rest cowered in fear hoping it would all go away
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 03:51:48 AM
So... You advocate hoping someOne comes along with an idea better than any that One has Oneself? That We all hunt for someOne else with a good idea? Where will the ideas come from?
What he said was a COMMON GOAL... you have YOUR GOAL for everyone else and cannot understand why not everyone would jump on YOUR goal.
Your plan has no room for others to see their solutions. There is no halfway point. not interim goals... its my way or the highway really and that will push people away rather than draw them in
QuoteFrankly, ArMaP, if You can't tell that My sole goal is to achieve the best result for most people by this point, I stand aghast.
There is no give or take in Your way... there is no WE in your plan there is only I. To achieve a final goal you have to allow people to believe that THEY count that THEIR ideas hopes and dreams will be included in the plan... If that isn't there... you are simple a dictator, albeit perhaps a benevolent one :D
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 03:54:08 AM
And You don't think that head is being approached at this time?
No. Things look bad, things are bad but not THAT bad yet for most people
QuoteMillion mask marches,
Its easy to get people to march behind a mask... but what did they actually accomplish? What if all they did was show the PTB that there might be a real threat from a group pushing for anarchy that the PTB REALLY make use of those FEMA camps for the Million masks?
So show me what they accomplished with the marches? In Egypt Brazil and Turkey they marched without masks and threw out the dictators
QuoteObamaNoCare affecting millions, and more and more?
Obama care may be a mess... has yet to be seen when the dust settles... but my daughter just signed up. As she turned 25 today she has to apply on her own anyway... She called the Nevada office... filled out the form on the web in five minutes and will have FREE coverage under medicaid starting Jan 1st
The millions who had their insurance companies dump them were done so by shading corporations that are running scared and some even closed up shop. Those people can actually afford health care and those people, the ones with money, will be paying higher.
Thought that was what everyone protesting has wanted? :P The rich pay more, the poor get free.
For my wife and I based on our combined income it looks like it will be $96.00 a month for both of us. Right now she pays $193.00 at work for just her and its poor coverage
So I will wait and see how it pans out. It will either stick and they will work out the bugs (a LOT at the begiining) or it will fizzle and die.
Seems to me odd that YOU would be against the poor folk getting free coverage at the expense of the rich :D
Congrats on that rate zorgon.im holding out to see what happens.
The msm has been harping this olbummer care thing for two weeks hard.the peasants are grumbling and ratings are falling so the msm has to coop the new paridigm.cant get left behind and the people turn on them.
I sometimes look for symbolism in nature.not a religion .just a part time fancy.i got my black and white cat on the day olbummer was elected so i named him obama .he and his mate were killed by coyotes a few weeks back.i say the coyotes are the ptb .just as the coyotes are tptb out here in the country.i see olbummer s reputation dying .he may be impeached before his term is over.
Just a theory but i wouldnt be surprised.yes im a little nutty.
The day before 911 i caught two water moccasins coiled up vertically and fighting.i shot them w my 22.exactly 24 hours later.the towers fell.i sometimes just speculate.
Just re-enrolled 2 weeks ago for my Corp Bene's. Healthcare, dental, vision insurance all runs $389.26/month for 2 adults and 4 kids. Not too bad. $12 more than last year, but that's just inflation, not the ACA. $40-ish cheaper than 2 years ago when I was with another corporation.(Different plans) I'm going to call it a win.
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 03:51:48 AM
So... You advocate hoping someOne comes along with an idea better than any that One has Oneself?
No.
QuoteThat We all hunt for someOne else with a good idea? Where will the ideas come from?
No, what I am saying is that I think what should be done is talking with other people that share the opinion that a change is needed and that, based on their opinions, trying to reach a common goal.
QuoteFrankly, ArMaP, if You can't tell that My sole goal is to achieve the best result for most people by this point, I stand aghast.
I understand that's your goal, unfortunately, your actions make it look like you are more interested in having all other people following your own idea.
Quote from: deuem on November 18, 2013, 06:50:44 AM
And if the military and police were not on your side you would end up in those pretty camps busting rocks.
I keep saying that, but nobody listens. :(
As long as the police and the military are seen as part of the problem instead of being part of the solution, any idea of revolution will fail.
As much heat as armap takes fom us sometimes.i wonder if we should have a thread titled."All about armap and his way of thinking".not dogging you man.i like getting into hot debate w you.
Personally i believe if im right then until a better idea comes up .everybody should go with my idea.a for sure path is easier to travel than a path of obstacles and darkness.plus its easier to refine at a later date when a better idea comes along .usually.
Quote from: zorgon on November 18, 2013, 10:00:21 AM
We are a long way from revolution.
Depends on your perspective... I say it's coming in the next 10-30 years. I'll still be around...But will you? 8) :P ;D
The next baby boomer group will be at highest salary around 2020.so hats when the next big war or chaos will be.if their plan goes right.they will bankrupt them in2017.make the twenty something year olds suffer for three years so they wil be desparate for jobs and join the military.then its war on.
Here is what I pay for Healthcare in Australia:
http://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Medicare-levy/
Its a saftey net... If you get severely screwed over, YOU always have medical available.
Although it's been years since I used the system due to being in hospital with broken bone's and what have you way too often to want to get sick again. I must say it's nice to live in a socitey where anyone can get medical care. The goal post's have changed in Oz, but we still can get medical care through our tax.
Damn I dont know what half of you in the states complain about at times. Some of you complain about the hardship's of people who cannot afford a brass tack, yet say you are being ripped off when healthcare for all may work, even in it's infancy.
No system is perfect, but for crying out loud tax people accordingly and have mercy for people that can't afford it.
:o
The American health system is not far from being barbaric.... Live long and prosper!... Not.
Yea, I think Obama missed a golden opportunity with ObamaCare. We already have a fully opperational 100% socialist healthcare system in the US. It's called the VA Hospital for the military. Completely tax paid healthcare, any Vet and their family automatically gets in, run by the government, staffed by the government. He could have made the move to just change it from Vets and family to every US Citizen. Healthcare should not be for profit. In a civil society we should all care for each other. (and I'm shooting myself in the foot here because I'm an medical/financial Underwriter for insurance, private health insurance would be gone, part of my income.)
But he missed that boat. It would have been complicated and there would have been lawsuits and economic ramifications to eliminating private healthcare, but it also would have been socially transforming. He also wouldn't have been seen as forcing people to buy something they didnt want, couldn't really afford. It would have just been there for them.
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 18, 2013, 03:51:48 AM
So... You advocate hoping someOne comes along with an idea better than any that One has Oneself?
Well, if it is infact a
better idea - then yea :D
QuoteWhere will the ideas come from?
The cosmos :P
QuoteFrankly, ArMaP, if You can't tell that My sole goal is to achieve the best result for most people by this point, I stand aghast.
What you stand for is completely admiral. Having said that I personally think your idea is not
practical, you're trying to create a new system whilst the old remains in place- in order for that to be sucessful, your going to need to get a few
billion on board - which is not likely.
However, I wouldn't personally want to try and discourage you... Some change is better than no change I guess.
Quote from: Sinny on November 18, 2013, 04:16:39 PM
The American health system is not far from being barbaric.... Live long and prosper!... Not.
How so? My kids all get into the clinic within a couple hours of calling in for an appointment. I was having chest pain and went to the ER, I had an EKG done within 15 minutes.(Was normal, woot!) My co-pay is minimal, $20.
Quote from: Sinny on November 18, 2013, 04:16:39 PM
The American health system is not far from being barbaric.... Live long and prosper!... Not.
Or our's in Oz either for that matter mate LOL
But yeah half the CT I see regarding Healthcare is Nut'z.
Throwing this oddity into this mix... In asia they have this system of Chi. ;D
Just fixed my wife ear infection from allergies last night using boiled onion.to much trouble to go to doc even though medicare covers it.
At the hospital they would have shot here up with antibiotics and she may have been exposed to the new superbugs.the old hospital in my town is loaded with staph.bacteria.
Socialized medicine is a joke in texas.ive been to the va with a old friend that i drive.they are used as lab rats.the nice new one in dallas.but hey.they pay all there transportation cost.mileage and food.big scam.comin out of our pockets.why cant the vets be treated at the local hospitals and doctors instead of traveling a hundred miles both ways.
The pension funds are partially invested in insurance companies.gotta keep the old folks in new caddies every few years.
This is a insurance company bailout at the youths expense.when it gets down to the brass tacks.this country is in the toilet and we will not be getting out unless there is a serious population reduction in china and india.how does the usa compete with chinese getting socialized medicine .free shipping for all exports and super cheap labor.and folks working for corporations living in dorm rooms of twenty people with to bathrooms and living off rice and fish.there is no way to keep a decent standard of living under those conditions
The usa cannot compete on the world market for non food production.thats why farming is the new oil in the usa.organic farmers will be the next millionaires but only if we bring in more immigrants.china has dropped their one child policy so they gonna need diapers and food.we have to become one world gov if the americans want to hold a high position in the world.otherwise we will just be another third world country very soon with a few mega farm billionaires.
i want to challenge the statement about the VA
hubby was drafted and then enlisted and was in nam and for the last few years he does go to the VA for a yearly physical but meds and other stuff all have a price..the price isn't as high as outside the system but there is still a price
now I don't know where you get your info about the VA being for vets and their families..but that is incorrect
it's for Vets and there is a scale for who pays and for what so no it is not free
and there is a critical logjam blocking the processing and a backlog for treatment that they are hoping to have cleared by 2016..
somewhere in the last five years management has been outsourced and I haven't been able to find the data..
but
if you served this country I think the least they owe you is some health care...
having said that let me add that the system is broken and not as great as some would believe
the doctors are leaving faster than normal and those working there are not happy folk
if you really want info you can check out these links..but probably no one will
as far as the regular healthcare in this country...it really stinks but the doctors are hamstrung by insurance and big pharma and regs that would choke a horse
so your best bet is to learn about how to stay healthy and work on yourself where you can
and stay out fo the damn system
ok.. another soapbox reply..not sorry ..i needed to say that
http://fcw.com/articles/2012/02/09/va-accused-of-excessive-outsourcing-of-va-jobs-held-by-vets.aspx
http://www.va.gov/about_va/vahistory.asp
http://www.va.gov/about_va/vahistory.asp
Vet family can be eligible for care under several programs. (And the below link gives only a few programs)
http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/family_members.asp
I know this because my next door neighbor and good friend is active military and his wife goes to the VA for her medical issue. This is correct.
opps
yep.. active military
sorry i wasn't clear.. i was thinking more about the inactive
My x wife was child of dead marine.she was covered until she was 18.that was 25years ago.her mother got like 1800 a month in vet benefits for her.plus social security.her mom blew it all.
Quote from: Sinny on November 18, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
Depends on your perspective... I say it's coming in the next 10-30 years. I'll still be around...But will you? 8) :P ;D
10 for sure... 30 depends if the docs can fix me :P
Quote from: WarToad on November 18, 2013, 04:22:39 PM
He also wouldn't have been seen as forcing people to buy something they didnt want, couldn't really afford. It would have just been there for them.
I think that is seen as the biggest issue against it... the 'forcing' people and fines if they don't
But they did that to car insurance too :D We squacked, we hollered we stamped our feet and blew our tops... but in the end.. if you drive , your paying insurance and if you don't they will fine you too :D
At least in Canada when they did auto insurance the government gave you a low cost alternative, not just made the insurance companies rich :D
In texas .the law allows per mile insurance but no company offers it.my insurance is 58$ a month but i cant afford to travel more than three hundred miles a month.just on average drive two days a month.insurance should be tied to fuel.big trucks burn more fuel and do more damage to roads.they are more dangerous.a motorcycle will usually never do any real damage unless its a ninja.and will almost do no damage to a road.anybody who buys fuel and has receipt is covered by state fuel tax insurance.imho thats how i would do it.
Regular insurance is a form of age discrimination.
Quote from: WarToad on November 18, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
How so? My kids all get into the clinic within a couple hours of calling in for an appointment. I was having chest pain and went to the ER, I had an EKG done within 15 minutes.(Was normal, woot!) My co-pay is minimal, $20.
For all the negative reasons stated in the aforementioned personal stories... And some more.
All the stats indicate very poor performance, and unequal distribution. Infact your no where near the top of world standards.
Your government has killed its own citizens on a number of occasions, and brought all our fears to life.
Mine has to - to an extent, but in the USA?
The USA are being badly screwed over - the rest of the world is watching in horror.
Quote from: zorgon on November 18, 2013, 10:00:21 AM
Hitler and Co. were the 1%
Genghis Khan and his horde was the 1%: 'I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.', '
The PTB currently really running the show is the 1%
But the 99% will NEVER go in a new direction NOT EVER. When America broke from Britain only 20% mustered... the rest cowered in fear hoping it would all go away
And then We really DIDN'T break from England. Be that as it may, ?
IF 99% were to ignore the 1%.....
Quote from: robomont on November 18, 2013, 02:26:15 PM
Personally i believe if im right then until a better idea comes up .everybody should go with my idea.a for sure path is easier to travel than a path of obstacles and darkness.plus its easier to refine at a later date when a better idea comes along .usually.
If we don't have more than one idea than that's the one we should follow, but if we find another idea we should see which of the two (or a mix of both) is better for everybody or for most people, and then follow that.
I think that adapting our ideas to other people's ideas or ignore our ideas when we see that somebody else's ideas are better is the best way of doing it.
A good leader, including someone like Hitler will take the masses ideas and spin them so they will follow the leader. It is an easy game to figure out. And also easy to break if you are in the right position at the time. I call it re-spinning.....
Deuem
QuoteThe USA are being badly screwed over - the rest of the world is watching in horror.
People might not believe you when you write this but it is now almost the number one question/statement I get from educated Chinese. Can you belive that! My good British friend tells me that he has more freedom now in China than he did in England. Can you believe that!
Deuem
Around 1994 .i was living in bristol tennessee.some young russian kids came and stayed a week.the local reporter ask them what they thought of the usa.one of them said they couldnt wait to get back.that they had more freedom in russia then what they had in the usa.
Quote from: robomont on November 19, 2013, 09:46:08 AM
Around 1994 .i was living in bristol tennessee.some young russian kids came and stayed a week.the local reporter ask them what they thought of the usa.one of them said they couldnt wait to get back.that they had more freedom in russia then what they had in the usa.
Even back in the early nineties when i lived in california I was shocked at how i had to show id everywhere i went. I couldnt belive the huge cops and thier intimidating attitude. I remember my buddy had some outstanding parking tickets and these huge cops almost broke into his place and took him into the cells till he sorted out paying for them.
It really felt like a police state.
I laugh when americans go on ad nauseum about living in a free country and how they are proud of being free.
Its a joke.
On the tickets. If this happens here the only thing that goes wrong is when you renew your regestration. All fines on the car have to be paid first. This goes for any car fine, speeding, red lights and so on. Only if DWI will they take you away, I don't know what they would do with me. Maybe just drive me home.. I know I have seen many a drunk sitting on the back of a cops cycle as they bring them home...It seems you have to actually hurt someone else to get in trouble or jail. It seems at home they get excited to bust people for just hurting themselves.
There is too much about the bust and not enough about the people.
In America I would think there are now more laws then there are people. The land of LAW.
Yea i think its like one law a second .its all the danm cop shows on the msm.almost every show on primetime is about some form of justice.very few shows on forgiveness.most of the things the state has done to me.i will not forgive and i will not forget .expect me.ill leave it at that.
Quote from: deuem on November 19, 2013, 04:20:39 AM
People might not believe you when you write this but it is now almost the number one question/statement I get from educated Chinese. Can you belive that! My good British friend tells me that he has more freedom now in China than he did in England. Can you believe that!
Deuem
Oh yea, the UK is a complete police state - but aslong as you know how to play the game, your alright... At the moment at least.
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