This is not new news, but just another article presenting the unusually calmness of the Sun, as well as the unusual way the Sun's magnetic pole changes are occurring this time. The scientists can only guess at what impacts the lack of sunspots, and the Sun's calmness might have on our dear little Earth! :)
http://news.yahoo.com/calm-solar-cycle-prompts-questions-impact-earth-213912384.html
Maybe ISON will catch a lucky break.
Or, maybe ISON is the reason for the Sun's seemingly change to normal actions?? Coincidental??
Clearly related to the rock bird and lizard, rock toy, floating rock, and other assorted kitchen sink rocks on Mars. :-X
Quote from: WarToad on November 25, 2013, 06:03:48 PM
Clearly related to the rock bird and lizard, rock toy, floating rock, and other assirted kitchen sink rocks on Mars. :-X
Any explanation for your comment, for relativity to the sun and ISON??
Wartoad
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:P
Quote from: rdunk on November 25, 2013, 06:12:40 PM
Any explanation for your comment, for relativity to the sun and ISON??
Why do you demand that there be one? If the sun were at unusually high activity would it be due to ISON? If there was a noteworthy solar flare would it be due to ISON? If the magnetic field just so happens to flip(as it's been predicted to do quite soon for a year or more now) at ISON's closest approach would it due to ISON? Cannot the sun simply be what it is and go through it's normal low-high solar/magnetic cycles and when a hunk of rock/ice flies by like it has 10,000 times before the two are not connected in anyway but the normal gravitational dance of the universe? (Other than the sun doing it's best to fry the holy bejeezez out of ISON)
Quote from: WarToad on November 25, 2013, 06:03:48 PM
Clearly related to the rock bird and lizard, rock toy, floating rock, and other assorted kitchen sink rocks on Mars. :-X
Sorry, I just didn't understand the relation of this comment to the Sun and ISON. And, I don't believe I made a "demand, just simply asked for a relationship comment, for my own understanding.
Quote from: rdunk on November 25, 2013, 05:14:13 PM
The scientists can only guess at what impacts the lack of sunspots, and the Sun's calmness might have on our dear little Earth! :)
The next
IC E AGE :D
Quote from: rdunk on November 25, 2013, 07:23:46 PM
Sorry, I just didn't understand the relation of this comment to the Sun and ISON. And, I don't believe I made a "demand, just simply asked for a relationship comment, for my own understanding.
Rdunk. I was joking. The relationship of the sun and ISON has no more relationship than the Mars rocks and the sun and ISON. Things go in cycles. The sun is calm right now, just because that's where it is.
The human mind is a funny thing. Always looking for deep meaning and reason where the clockwork universe just wants to tick on.
Quote from: WarToad on November 25, 2013, 07:56:37 PM
The human mind is a funny thing. Always looking for deep meaning and reason where the clockwork universe just wants to tick on.
If we simply accepted everything as normal and said. "It is what it is.." the forum would be dead pretty fast
::)
If the sun is remaining calm when its 'supposed' to be in a solar max... I want to knpw why so I can make preps for the cold weather coming :D
Quote from: zorgon on November 25, 2013, 07:43:11 PM
The next IC E AGE :D
Yes Z, because of other things you have presented, a lot of ice is my concern too. However, I guess we really have nothing to be concerned about - - ie: (from the article)
"As the sunspot numbers continue to stay low, it's possible the Earth's climate is being affected again.
But thanks to global warming, we're unlikely to see another ice age. "Things have not started to cooling, they just have not risen as quickly," Biesecker said.
So, global warming is going to handle/negate the next ice age!!!! HUH?? ???
Al Gore says global warming...so no matter what the sun does, He's right.
Heh.
don't even worry about the sun..it's the volcanoes that will melt everything
http://rt.com/news/antarctica-volcanoes-activity-study-887/
Amanda Lough of Washington University in St Louis, Missouri, along with her colleagues, found that magma is still stirring under the Executive Committee Range thanks to seismic data gathered stations, installed on the ice between 2007 and 2010.
The station's purpose is studying of the interaction between ice and the Earth's crust. But among the data Lough found a series of unusual tremors, most of them occurring during two 'seismic swarms' in the first two months of 2010 and in March 2011.
The quakes were 25 to 40km deep, which meant they were not produced by the movement of ice. They also had a fairly low frequency, between 2 and 4 Hertz, suggesting they were not caused by an earthquake produced by tectonic plates grinding against each other.
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/131118-antarctica-volcano-earthquakes-erupt-sea-level-rise-science/
Active Volcano Found Under Antarctic Ice: Eruption Could Raise Sea Levels
Inevitable eruption will speed up ice loss on frozen continent, study says.
Ker Than
for National Geographic
Published November 18, 2013
A newly discovered volcano found buried beneath a thick layer of ice in Antarctica could speed up ice loss and raise global sea levels when it erupts, scientists say.
The finding, detailed in the current issue of Nature Geoscience, marks the first time that an active volcano has been discovered under the ice of the frozen continent. (Also see "Giant Undersea Volcanoes Found Off Antarctica.")
When it erupts—which no one can predict—the volcano "will create millions of gallons of water beneath the ice—many lakes full," study leader Doug Wiens, professor of earth and planetary science at Washington University in St. Louis, said in a statement.
This water will rush beneath the ice toward the sea and feed into one of the major ice streams that drain ice from Antarctica into the Ross Ice Shelf, Wiens explained.
What's new?
The new volcano's discovery was accidental. In January 2010, scientists set up a series of seismometers, or earthquake detectors, on Marie Byrd Land, a highland region of West Antarctica.
The instruments array detected two swarms of earthquakes about one year apart, in 2010 and 2011. The earthquakes were small, with magnitudes of between 0.8 and 2.1.
The tremors occurred at depths of about 15 to 25 miles (25 to 40 kilometers), close to the boundary between the crust and the mantle, and much deeper than normal crustal earthquakes.
The depth at which the quakes occurred, as well as their low frequency, suggests they might be so-called Deep Long Period earthquakes, or DPLs, which occur in volcanic areas.
"People aren't really sure what causes DPLs," said Amanda Lough, a postdoctoral student in Wiens's lab and the first author of the study, said in a statement.
"It seems to vary by volcanic complex, but most people think it's the movement of magma and other fluids that leads to pressure-induced vibrations in cracks within volcanic and hydrothermal systems."
Why is the discovery important?
Lough and her team say it's not a matter of if the newly discovered volcano will erupt, but when. "It most likely has erupted before," Lough said. (Watch video: Volcanoes 101.)
That's because the volcano sits atop a raised portion of land that the team believes is composed of previously erupted material.
What would happen in an eruption?
The volcano is covered by more than half a mile (one kilometer) of ice, so it would have to be an extraordinarily powerful eruption to breach the surface.
However, the heat from the volcano could increase melting at the base of the glacier and meltwater could act like a lubricant that makes the overlying ice flow out to sea faster. Global sea levels could rise by a small amount as a result.
"We're not talking about an eruption causing the ice sheet to melt and cause catastrophic sea-level rise," Lough told National Geographic.
"This volcanic complex has been operating for millions of years ... There have been past eruptions of this system and the ice has survived for millions of years, [so] future eruptions alone will not cause the ice sheet to fail."
What's next?
Most of the seismometers used to discover the volcano have been removed and installed in other areas in Antarctica, so further study of its seismic activity is no longer possible.
But Lough said she hopes scientists will continue to study the volcano using other instruments.
"I'm really excited because this paper has stirred up a lot of interest in the glaciology community," she said, "and hopefully someone there will take up the challenge to answer the questions of what are the possible outcomes."
Well, I'm all up for a new Ice Age. Makes for good hunting and trapping. I'm ready to lay lines. The garden delivered pretty well this summer, we'll see how the winter delivers.