Pegasus Research Consortium

first off let me say that what i am posting doesn't look like much but blown up on my computer is a different scenario

long story
ok so I walked out to pick up the cat food for the feral cats..we have maurading raccoons so it has to be brought in everynight
and I looked up at the sky.. and saw a huge bright what I thought to be a satelite.
we have a winter one in that section of the sky
.soooooooooooo
I wonder if my new camera can get a shot and I can blow it up and see what it looks like


it was in the south-west sky..mostly west when I went in and mostly to the south when I came back out.. maybe two minutes..so it was moving fast and it continued moving south
this is not our stationary satelite..what is it..
hey maybe the space station (nah) :(
got into position and started taking shots
the ones below came out and when I blew them up they are very interesting..

here's the sad need help part..for anyone who wants to waste some time

I can't seem to copy that blow up to share...i don't want to admit stupidity so lets
just say that memory must have been erased ;)
.so maybe one of you guys can waste some time and check them out

the first one has a nice red something in the shot to the right of the large white circle
the circle doesn't look like any satelite I have seen pics of whn i blow it up

I checked what would be going over close to the time of the pics..and came up with two possibilities ( links below)
but I don't think it is either

so if anyone wants to play around here are the original shots



7:19 pm est
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/what_010.jpg)


7:20

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/what_011.jpg)


7:21

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/what_012.jpg)




(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/what_013.jpg)


7:22

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/what_014.jpg)



what was listed as in my sky  approx at that time.
.yeah i know it's not that close..but it was all i could find

http://spaceweather.com/flybys/flybys.php?zip

  Tiangong 1 06:50:41 am W 06:53:42am 75° 2.1 (visible)

  SkyMed 1 06:50:38 pm N 06:54:53pm 55° 2.5 (visible



pics of those two  objects
http://www.bisbos.com/space_tiangong3.html

http://imageevent.com/afap/photographix/ghostsofthenight;jsessionid=650kvxp2n2.frog_s?p=8&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=2&s=0&z=3



meanwhile i will try to copy a blow up of the object

Ohhh, nice Deuem bait there Sky..

First, I try to tell everyone to get a good Snapshot/Screen capture program for when you're stuck.  I use the free one called" Snapshot". You will never miss that frame again. And if we are talking originals, the moment you blow it up, you are no linger on the original so a snap of what you see is just as good to show. It captures what you see. Snapshot has 3 choices.   Also, see that little button on your keyboard. The one you never use called Print Screen. At any time you are using your computer and want that screen, just push that seceret button. Next go to you Microsoft paint>open and Paste.  there it is , wahla
You have had it all the time.  Then you can just crop it in paint and save it. It is harder than Snapshot but it is there now.

Deuem will look over the bait and get bact to you.  Thanks.....

And on that note, here is a snap of this.
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/SnapShot120710.jpg) (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/deuem/media/SnapShot120710.jpg.html)

That looks like what i saw last year at dusk.

ok. deuem..i will try that in the meantime  to learn ..thanks

robo.. we so rarely have clear skies anymore that i was thrilled to see anything..

The movie button not working on that cam?   ::)

Quote from: A51Watcher on December 04, 2013, 04:15:30 AM
The movie button not working on that cam?   ::)

Video is overrated. :)

WHAT?      do you mean me? ::)

Quote from: sky otter on December 04, 2013, 02:56:08 PM

WHAT?      do you mean me? ::)

Well did you pick one or just look at them?  Click one and stand back..

no i was afraid to pick one..but i see both lead to neat stuff

but still no answers as to what they are..

since i only saw one with my eyes and the red dot on the pics and yoiu come up with four
in that particular formation..
sooooo
what the heck are they.
..protection for something new?
aliens playing pranks and giggling?
camera gone bad?

?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ? 

You afraid, no way!  pick me, no pick me.

I thought I answered you along with the photos. The very odd thing is how the cluster takes place on one side on both the top and bottom left.  Most of the time clusters from a camera failure or problem will be all the way around. Not just one sided. What ever they are, they are very far away and the white one is even further.

The 2 on the right could be planes or stars having their belly light distorted. Neither has a large EMG field, So I am left with the possibility that the top one might be an internal reflection or both of them are flying in formation. If a squad of fighters were escorting a large plane like a b2, It might show up like this. Up high and just a little bit under lit from the sun/moon?  i would put escort in front of Aliens massing up to destroy Sky land.

deuem

Quote from: ArMaP on December 04, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
Video is overrated. :)

Oh yeah?

How bout if one of those had taken off at high speed and cut a 90 degree corner??

Not overrated THEN obviously.

Sheesh.  ::)

A51  i can't transfer blow up of the current stuff.
what the heck would i do with a video? ? ?


probably have to mail it off to one of you guys.. ;D

but dang that would be cool

i'll try daylight movies of the pooches first..ok? ;D

cool  8)

Quote from: A51Watcher on December 05, 2013, 03:46:38 AM
How bout if one of those had taken off at high speed and cut a 90 degree corner??

Not overrated THEN obviously.

Only if it added something to the photo, just the movement would not be enough (in my opinion) to make the video better than a photo.

We can get an idea of the movement from the person that took the photo.

Yes, video may be useful, but from the image analysis point of view it only gives multiple images, worse images than photo.

Quote from: ArMaP on December 05, 2013, 09:31:37 AM
Only if it added something to the photo, just the movement would not be enough (in my opinion) to make the video better than a photo.

We can get an idea of the movement from the person that took the photo.

Yes, video may be useful, but from the image analysis point of view it only gives multiple images, worse images than photo.

I guess it depends on the video, and the camera. A very nice HD camera, great lens with HD can take a video with every frame as clear as a camera. I had a hard time with this until I processed one and saw the frame by frame quality.

I do like the ability of making traces and flight paths. calculating speeds and distances. A good video is a very good tool if you stop looking at the picture.  Look at the math. I used to do more of these years ago but they take so much time and no one ever questioned anything I did or stepped up to do it and check my math so I got bored of it and stopped.

I need so much data that is very hard to get. If a video is not made by a member there is too much guessing. If there is nothing in the video to relate to size then it is all guess work. If I think the ufo is 30 feet and you think it is 600 feet then the numbers are all over the place. The only good part are the factors and ratios.

Deuem

Quote from: deuem on December 05, 2013, 10:06:36 AM
I guess it depends on the video, and the camera.

In this case it would be the same camera but in video mode, so any video would be of a lower quality than an photo.

QuoteI do like the ability of making traces and flight paths. calculating speeds and distances. A good video is a very good tool if you stop looking at the picture.  Look at the math. I used to do more of these years ago but they take so much time and no one ever questioned anything I did or stepped up to do it and check my math so I got bored of it and stopped.

As you said, it's too much work for what we can learn about it. :)

QuoteIf I think the ufo is 30 feet and you think it is 600 feet then the numbers are all over the place.

A video isn't going to solve that problem.

Quote from: ArMaP on December 05, 2013, 01:57:40 PM
In this case it would be the same camera but in video mode, so any video would be of a lower quality than an photo.  ["an" proceeds vowels, an apple]

I don't recall off hand what camera Sky purchased. If it is consummer grade. I should agree if there is no standard in the frame. If she bought a high end HD camera with a nice lens maybe it would be worth something. Have to look at the pixels and how the camera stores them. Just saying that high end HD video cameras are as clear as good cameras. Each frame can be moved to a photo and printed with ease.

Question for Sky, can you choose what format to store your shots. Some cameras give an option.

QuoteAs you said, it's too much work for what we can learn about it. :)

It all depends on what you want to learn. Sometimes I just do them for myself for practice. They are very time consuming over days and usually people have moved on.

Either I have to lead with it or try and enter it later. It depends on how strong the thread is and if it is stuck on something the math can prove one way or another.

We'll see if another pops up that really needs it. People will start to ask. I am a little suprised seeing how you like the science of things. Math is a science. I would think you would like to do this if a UFO was presented that you could not debunk without it.

QuoteA video isn't going to solve that problem.

On a Sky shot with no reference, your right. Give me any reference and the game changes in my favor.

Deuem

Quote from: deuem on December 05, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
["an" proceeds vowels, an apple]

Thanks, I know that one, I was going to write "an image" but changed it to "photo" and forgot about the "an". :)

QuoteIf she bought a high end HD camera with a nice lens maybe it would be worth something. Have to look at the pixels and how the camera stores them. Just saying that high end HD video cameras are as clear as good cameras. Each frame can be moved to a photo and printed with ease.

The biggest problem (besides resolution) is the compression, a video frame has always more "aggressive" compression.

QuoteIt all depends on what you want to learn.

That's true. :)

QuoteI am a little suprised seeing how you like the science of things. Math is a science. I would think you would like to do this if a UFO was presented that you could not debunk without it.

I like math, but I didn't learn much, I only finished high school. :(

QuoteOn a Sky shot with no reference, your right. Give me any reference and the game changes in my favor.

The best would be moving the camera, that's how they make the stereo views of Mars with the HRSC and HiRISE. :)

Per request 7 21
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/LittleDeuemCatClickme.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1335.msg80358#msg80358)

well i see you are having some fun ..click me..lol
thank you

and hummmmmmmm to how many things weren't visible...

the skies here are  mostly busy..and one of these days i will get the nigt vision camera that i have wanted forever and see what is buzing around..
;D

Hi Sky, on the jump back, as a poster and your thread, would you rather I jump back to the beginning of your thread or back to the cat. The work is the same one or the other. What would you prefer. On the first one I jumped back to the lead page but what if we were on page 25? Back to the cat?

Deuem

Quote from: sky otter on December 09, 2013, 03:02:53 PM

well i see you are having some fun ..click me..lol
thank you

and hummmmmmmm to how many things weren't visible...

the skies here are  mostly busy..and one of these days i will get the nigh2t vision camera that i have wanted forever and see what is buzing around..
;D

I think if you got a night vision camera you would be keeping me busy 24/7 lol I have done many of them in the past. Once I ballance out the green it works rather well.
And yes I'm having fun, why not. I don't want to grow into an olg grough. I want to have fun until the day I stop.

Deuem

All I see is Mars.

Came across this video which I thought may relate to the objects sky otter photographed? Haven't researched the video much but does have a similar formation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6aC7I-Qp8

Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6aC7I-Qp8

Wow

Flux that is very interesting..cool find

Is that how fast yours were moving sky?

i would have to say no..from what i can see on there

it  surprised me that it moved at all cause when i first saw it i thought it was the normal old satelite in that section of the sky
when i came back out and looked it was on the other side of the garage..
and as i fumbled with the camera it was heading away and i could tell it was moving south and awy
but not fast..kinda like you would watch a normal plane movement
but i am so glad that i did post this  . cause obviously i got lucky without know it..lol

i really need to win the lottery and get those night scope things...sigh