Alex Jones talking to John B Wells.
Found some of this video of varied interest...
I had not been too aware of President Mandela's past history other than he was imprisoned or 27 years and had fought for equal rights for Blacks and been the leader of the ANC party...But according to A.J he had a corrupt side in his past and Communist connection..
They also talk about the Bloodline and connections with Various Presidents and how they relate to each other..
John Wells refers to possible connections to Aliens...and refers to unsealed Alien Files.. Upon checking it out there is a website that I have not been aware of before..
http://www.unsealedfiles.com/the-alien-files
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suAZtI0E3ks
I would not get sucked into any talk of alien blood lines mate. There is real UFOlogy you know.
Apart from talk, what possible evidence is there for an alien blood line?
Some real UFO talk here: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5794
I was not aware that there was any real evidence of anything as yet ! be it Alien UFOs or ET bloodlines...
From my initial view, What was posted is has as as much possibility as most other theories that are still awaiting to be proven with ref to ET, UFO and numerous conspiracies, so why pick on that ! I thought that you have made similar comments to other related topics in the past.
Its a ref to a suggestion like many other topics made on forums.
QuoteI would not get sucked into any talk of alien blood lines mate. There is real UFOlogy you know.
Apart from talk, what possible evidence is there for an alien blood line?
Quote from: astr0144 on December 12, 2013, 04:50:46 PM
I was not aware that there was any real evidence of anything as yet ! be it Alien UFOs or ET bloodlines...
There is plenty of evidence for UFOs, some for aliens existing. No strong evidence that they are ET that I am aware of.
Bloodlines though are myth as far as I can see. How can that be verified or tested if you see what I mean. That is what I was trying to get at. I'm not picking on something, I'm commenting. :)
From what I recall..quite a few conspiracists and some experts (Some Scientists maybe)who believe ET & UFOs may exist.. have commented on Human / Alien connections..
David Icke be one that comes to immediate mind with his reptilian theories... who I suspect looked at some other experts theories to make his conclusions...
For me if ETs do exist and are or have been on this planet.. then I do not see why this could not be a possibility...
I think John Lear has made ref to this also..
Many UFOs type craft that we see are Manmade and may look very similar to any possible ET craft from what I have been told be one expert...
I do think many Manmade type UFOs may have arrived from Von Brauns designs and improved upon and can be very hard to compare to ETs (If they exist).
With regards to testing Bloodlines...
If they exist and only certain scientists or whoever know about them.. I am not sure how we would ever know for certain...
Seeing how there does seem quite a difference in Humans however in various ways be it colour, personality... IQ etc...
Then who knows..
If we are being controlled which we seem to be...
Then I do not see why this could not be a possibility...
The older and wiser I get to the way the World seems to be the less real freedom I see in the World I am sorry to say..and its a LOT more dangerous than I ever realised 10 to 20 years ago..
IF aliens are here in control.. they may not want to appear as powerful as they may be , but will create beings human like to create a form of leadership through the likes of Presidents and World leaders...
Just a POSSIBLE theory... I have NO real Evidence ! :)
But I have come across some further theories in the last 6 months of suggestions that some of this may be so....
QuoteThere is plenty of evidence for UFOs, some for aliens existing. No strong evidence that they are ET that I am aware of.
Bloodlines though are myth as far as I can see. How can that be verified or tested if you see what I mean. That is what I was trying to get at. I'm not picking on something, I'm commenting
Quote from: astr0144 on December 12, 2013, 05:54:18 PM
With regards to testing Bloodlines...
If they exist and only certain scientists or whoever know about them.. I am not sure how we would ever know for certain...
Seeing how there does seem quite a difference in Humans however in various ways be it colour, personality... IQ etc...
With regard to blood lines I can help you. I am trained in molecular genetics so this is one area I can speak of with authority (if I can on anything which is debatable).
Basically to prove a bloodline has anything to do with aliens would require a DNA sample. To get that would mean a few cells from an alien (one of the reasons many abduction researchers explanations are absurd) to compare DNA sequences. We have no alien so we are at an impasse.
Even if we have an alien, we still have no proof it is an ET. So I say we start by looking at evidence for aliens and see whether what that teaches us. In my opinion the evidence does not point to a straight ET explanation so far, although that may well be part of the answer. The phenomenon has too many unexplained characteristics to have such a simple explanation.
If you have time listen carefully to what you hear from these guys. Please do it if you want to understand there is more to this that you normally hear on the web.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ETMzkhBQ6w
And in the following clip you will hear Terence McKenna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyxZYNRk0DQ
I don't agree completely with any researcher but they are worth a listen. All UFOlogists need to broaden their perspective and I include myself in that.
As much as I have been a member on PRC..There has just been too much info wrote , for me to keep up with ! and I have been less involved for the last 8 months due to varied reasons..I used to follow quite a lot of your posts, but I do not recall reading that you were trained in Molecular Genetics...So would you be classed as you a type of Human Biologist ? Interesting !
Now I understand the reasons behind your comments and interest in such a subject of ET bloodlines and possible ET life and any Human connection...! :)
Your Interests would remind me of that of Dana Scully's profession in the "X Files" She was some sort of Medical Doctor who used to sometimes seem to look into similar things..
With ref to the Videos...If I can I will try and watch them.
Can't promise that I will understand them though !
QuoteWith regard to blood lines I can help you. I am trained in molecular genetics so this is one area I can speak of with authority (if I can on anything which is debatable).
Quote from: astr0144 on December 12, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
As much as I have been a member on PRC..There has just been too much info wrote , for me to keep up with ! and I have been less involved for the last 8 months due to varied reasons..I used to follow quite a lot of your posts, but I do not recall reading that you were trained in Molecular Genetics...So would you be classed as you a type of Human Biologist ? Interesting !
I have a first degree in pharmaclogy and specialised in using the techniques of molecular genetics to study disease and drug action. I also have a strong interest in neuroscience (and consciousness although that is a difficult thing to even define scientifically). I have done some research that I am forbidden by law to discuss but it has nothing whatsoever to do with ETs.
Wow ! ..Seems you have a fair Scientific background Pimander that I imagine are from/ of quite a complex set of subjects... that for those involved in such a field would be validly interesting and connected to the other interests that you have... much connected with some related PRC topics of discussion..
Its good to have someone from such a background to offer their views on such related things...
Yes Consciousness I suspect is a topic not too widely discussed or studied...I once read in some book that it was a missing link to many things in Science or the wonders of the Human mind in trying to figure out the universe...maybe that the likes of Einstein types did not take into account..
Maybe some of this is like the Awareness that 'Matrix' refers to..
Now you have us curious about your research !
If you ever came across a Alien as such alive or dead.. would you jump at the opportunity to want to analyse its genetics ? I would assume so !
Id imagine you as maybe, like one of the Scientists doing a ET Autopsy if you got the chance ! :)
I will try and watch the videos by end of weekend..
QuoteI have done some research that I am forbidden by law to discuss but it has nothing whatsoever to do with ETs.
Quote from: Pimander on December 12, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
With regard to blood lines I can help you. I am trained in molecular genetics so this is one area I can speak of with authority (if I can on anything which is debatable).
Basically to prove a bloodline has anything to do with aliens would require a DNA sample. To get that would mean a few cells from an alien (one of the reasons many abduction researchers explanations are absurd) to compare DNA sequences. We have no alien so we are at an impasse.
Even if we have an alien, we still have no proof it is an ET. So I say we start by looking at evidence for aliens and see whether what that teaches us. In my opinion the evidence does not point to a straight ET explanation so far, although that may well be part of the answer. The phenomenon has too many unexplained characteristics to have such a simple explanation.
If you have time listen carefully to what you hear from these guys. Please do it if you want to understand there is more to this that you normally hear on the web.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ETMzkhBQ6w
And in the following clip you will hear Terence McKenna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyxZYNRk0DQ
I don't agree completely with any researcher but they are worth a listen. All UFOlogists need to broaden their perspective and I include myself in that.
Astro, the above post has many flaws in it, and it doesn't take a genius to spot them.
First of all, Pimander has no knowledge of whether ET are real or not.
Secondly, he doesn't know if any humans possess Alien DNA or not. (either in a tube, or in their blood stream)
Pimander you say:
Quotethe phenomenon has too many unexplained characteristics to have such a simple explanation
Has history not proven that it's often the most simple expanation that is the correct one?
Pimander has provided two video's offering alternate perspectives, and all should be taken into account.
All I know as fact is that 95% of the words elite are connected by old and intertwining bloodlines.
Whether these are ET or not remains to be seen.
I'm currently exploring the answers offered by the Billy Meier contacts, which explore human genetics in detail.
A re-occuring theme is the so called 'reptillian', 'serpent' lineage.
Whether this is physical or metaphorical, also remains to be seen.
I would take Ickes information with a heavy pinch of salt - I commend him for exposing elite sexual abuse, however, I think he also pushes known false hoods, or lives in a delusionary state of reality.
Quote from: astr0144 on December 13, 2013, 06:22:35 AM
Its good to have someone from such a background to offer their views on such related things...
I am not currently working in science. I started back last year and ill health destroyed it. I am now working on my own business which will probably make me wealthier but was not what I trained for 6 years for.
It is a strange one. I got such a negative reaction on ATS that I rarely post on my own subject. Even on here, every time I have posted on pharmacology (effect of drugs) the members have persistently argued with every post so I gave up trying to be informative on the topic. I do "try" to use my knowledge in the rare instances it is useful on here but most of the topics I post on it is only useful to be critical, sceptical, persistent and fair (which we are trained to be in science).
NOTE: Scepticism in science does not mean to not believe in say God or ET (although a lot of scientists wrongly thing that the belief in atheism is scientific).
Scepticism:
n. A doubting or questioning attitude or state of mind; dubiety. See Synonyms at uncertainty.
n. Philosophy The ancient school of Pyrrho of Elis that stressed the uncertainty of our beliefs in order to oppose dogmatism
In other words you doubt claims (from both sides of an argument) until you have enough evidence to form a fact based conclusion. Failure to be sceptical about ideas leads to dogmatism and irrational belief systems. If humanity fails to build knowledge sceptically then it falls into superstition. Look at the irrational religious beliefs that make good people murder each other in the madness that is war. This happens because people have a non-sceptical irrational attachment to beliefs that have no basis in fact - THE MAIN ONE BEING RELIGION. I HOPE THIS MIGHT MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY CERTAIN TOPICS MATTER TO ME AND WHY MY ANNOYING REBUTTALS OFFEND SOME MEMBERS.
My specialism is absolutely useful when looking at abduction research and claims about biological issues regarding alleged dead ETs. Unfortunately, so far I have seen mostly nonsense on those topics from a biomedical perspective. And don't get me wrong, I want to find something of substance as it would be a massive step forward for science and humanity generally.
QuoteYes Consciousness I suspect is a topic not too widely discussed or studied...I once read in some book that it was a missing link to many things in Science or the wonders of the Human mind in trying to figure out the universe...maybe that the likes of Einstein types did not take into account..
Maybe some of this is like the Awareness that 'Matrix' refers to..
Science has a blind spot regarding the implications of consciousness research and quantum physics.
QuoteIf you ever came across a Alien as such alive or dead.. would you jump at the opportunity to want to analyse its genetics ? I would assume so !
Damn right.
QuoteId imagine you as maybe, like one of the Scientists doing a ET Autopsy if you got the chance ! :)
As I keep trying to explain, a molecular geneticist does not need a big sample or have to perform the absurd operations reported by "abductees". A few cells would be enough for a lot of DNA work. The assumption that aliens would be cellular, water based and have DNA is probably erroneous - unless panspermia or a related hypothesis is correct.
The conclusions of abduction researchers generally are absolute nonsense. An advanced race of master geneticists would not have to perform such horrific and bizarre operations on humans to obtain DNA samples or make hybrids. The entire human genome is contained in a single cell for fuc4s sake. There has to be another explanation for the abduction phenomenon.
Quote from: Sinny on December 13, 2013, 09:16:28 AM
First of all, Pimander has no knowledge of whether ET are real or not.
But I am not claiming that. Why would I be interested in scientific approaches to the topic if I though I already knew the answer?
QuoteSecondly, he doesn't know if any humans possess Alien DNA or not. (either in a tube, or in their blood stream)
Nobody knows this because nobody has a sample of alien. (Not in public domain anyway.)
Pimander does not know. But neither does anyone else. ::)
QuoteHas history not proven that it's often the most simple expanation that is the correct one?
No it hasn't.
QuotePimander has provided two video's offering alternate perspectives, and all should be taken into account.
Ones that are nonsense should be refuted. The idea that an advanced race comes and perform what are effectively S&M sessions on humans is ludicrous.
QuoteAll I know as fact is that 95% of the words elite are connected by old and intertwining bloodlines.
Yes and but that does not mean there is any evidence that they are true.
QuoteWhether these are ET or not remains to be seen.
Yes but in the absence of any alien samples the claims are not testable and a waste of time for a critical scientific study. Perhaps we should focus on testable hypotheses if we want to use resources effectively?
QuoteI'm currently exploring the answers offered by the Billy Meier contacts, which explore human genetics in detail.
I will start a thread on Meier as soon as I have a spare hour. Basically Meier is a fraud and hoaxer.
QuoteThe history of the UFO phenomenon is replete with so-called valida-
tions of the kind presented by Meier and Stevens, and it takes more
than a rational brain to resist their temptation. It takes a very critical
balance between open-minded acceptance of new facts—an attitude
without which there would be no progress in science—and a refusal to
be swayed by any authority or faith. And it takes training in that elusive
discipline: being able to distinguish clearly between that which is real and
that which we would like to be real.
Vallee: Massengers of Deception
You seem quite a fan of Vallee.
Here's what I say - if he was damaging the elites agenda he would be dead.
In regards to Meier - Go ahead, I'll personally honour you if you can debunk him... Start with the Metal sample please.
Pimander:
QuoteYes but in the absence of any alien samples the claims are not testable and a waste of time for a critical scientific study. Perhaps we should focus on testable hypotheses if we want to use resources effectively?
Agreed. How? lol
Quote from: Sinny on December 13, 2013, 12:07:03 PM
You seem quite a fan of Vallee.
Here's what I say - if he was damaging the elites agenda he would be dead.
What are you trying to say? That if a researcher is alive then they are not worth hearing? ::)
I don't agree with everything Valle says. He is an excellent source for certain information because he has actually done field studies of many cases, had access to insiders and also joined/attended some of these groups of the type Meier started. He also has the benefit of not being from the USA/UK UFO groups which were all infiltrated early on.
QuoteIn regards to Meier - Go ahead, I'll personally honour you if you can debunk him... Start with the Metal sample please.
I don't have a metal sample to debunk. HOwever if you want me to look at Vogel's claim that he discovered an extraordinary composition of the metal using scanning electron microscopy then that is bunk. It is impossible to determine the composition of a metal using electron microscopy.
Lets say that metal is quite interesting. If it could be shown that Meier has lied or produced faked pictures what would the metal prove?
I will do a thread when I get time (I am moving house Sunday and early next week so I may struggle to do a long one until next week) though but I have to admit to wondering what makes you think Meier is a good source.
Did you get my email?
Quote from: Pimander on December 13, 2013, 06:19:16 PM
What are you trying to say? That if a researcher is alive then they are not worth hearing? ::)
For the ones in the public eye? Pretty much :P
QuoteLets say that metal is quite interesting. If it could be shown that Meier has lied or produced faked pictures what would the metal prove?
If the Metal was interesting, and Meier had produced 'fake' photo's, it means he still has an interesting piece of metal, and 'fake' photo's :P aha.
There are contradictions, I'm already sifting through them.
QuoteI will do a thread when I get time (I am moving house Sunday and early next week so I may struggle to do a long one until next week)
I'm moving again also, I'm in your boat.
Quotethough but I have to admit to wondering what makes you think Meier is a good source.
His story to too elaborate to make up. I believe the truth is stranger than fiction.
I would not recommend Meier, or any of my other contact sources to anyone new to Ufology... The stories are long, complicated and distorted. Each sentence I read needs to be validated - there are many untruths for every truth.
It is my belief that after Semjase had her accident, and from when Billy was told she was dead, Billy's true contacts had been infiltrated. It might also be useful to note that Billy's section on The Living Moon is also flawed... See how distortions are not easily avoided?
Anyway, there's only so far I can take this research until I possess all of Billy's German Publications, and I learn to read German.... The German connection is most interesting in my opinion... Re-occurring German speaking aliens...
QuoteDid you get my email?
I did, thank you very much, I'll enjoy reading them as I settle into my new home after the new year.
I know your one of the good guys, and it's great that we have different perspectives, through debate and exchange of knowledge, answers will be found.
I assure you, there is no possibility of me joining a deluded sectarian cult. But study them I shall - Know thy enemy.
Since my last post I can see further comments have been made from yourself and Sinny ...There may be a few further things to consider or add...
I have took a look at the two videos and I will try and make some comments as I go...But there may be one or two points that I did not address earlier to comment on.. I may answer in more than one reply and try not to overload each part with too much varied information.
It may be a catch 22...If we have no Alien, we may not be able to define a human or animal type being as being ET connected / related or not, as we have nothing to compare them with. As we probably by now know the overall expected sources of Human DNA.... we could only speculate if we found certain so called Bloodline related Humans that MAY show a different DNA ( If that is Possible ) and suggest that it/they may be connected to an Alien Bloodline ...as we have no actual certain Alien or E.T DNA to compare..
I know we do not need to see a Alien type abduction with Bodies , limbs , organs, blood etc in order to accept evidence... and that all it takes is a few small fragments maybe taken from a scene or abductee to find a sample of a few Cells in order to do a test to determine the DNA..I think
Watching some CSI / Police TV programs have taught us about that .
When you say....
QuoteEven if we have an alien, we still have no proof it is an ET
...I am not sure how you or we or who ever may define and Alien and or an E.T.... I assumed for the sake of our discussion that normally on PRC we call an Alien and E.T... but I know that Alien can be defined in various ways..ie some Humans can be classed as Alien if they are strangers..
Yes searching for an Alien or E.T is the problem...and How do we know what an E.T really should be or look like...OK we see the movies, stories and drawings or images..theories and descriptions..from Hollywood or the so called witnesses ( even that of Roswell or similar known stories) but as yet I am not or certain anyone has actually proved they exist.
QuoteSo I say we start by looking at evidence for aliens and see whether what that teaches us
I think you may refer to some of my above statement in your comments below...
QuoteIn my opinion the evidence does not point to a straight ET explanation so far, although that may well be part of the answer. The phenomenon has too many unexplained characteristics to have such a simple explanation
QuoteBasically to prove a bloodline has anything to do with aliens would require a DNA sample. To get that would mean a few cells from an alien (one of the reasons many abduction researchers explanations are absurd) to compare DNA sequences. We have no alien so we are at an impasse.
Even if we have an alien, we still have no proof it is an ET. So I say we start by looking at evidence for aliens and see whether what that teaches us. In my opinion the evidence does not point to a straight ET explanation so far, although that may well be part of the answer. The phenomenon has too many unexplained characteristics to have such a simple explanation.
Upon watching the Jacques Vallee video...He discusses some interested, thought provoking points...The 1st one being, Acknowledging that he was chosen by Steven Speilberg to base the French Scientist UFO researcher character in the movie"Close Encounters"...
I think that I understand most of what he talks about in some sense... but may not be clear on certain parts and may interpretate some things in possible varied ways.
For eg ..I think he suggests that he does not think that UFOs or Alien E.Ts have to come from travelling through Space or the Ets may be visitors from other planets as we or most Humans would think off and that he would be VERY disappointed if this was just the case, as he thinks that UFOs , that they could be much more interesting ..
The Interviewer Jeffrey Mishlove then refers to do you mean that they may come from another dimension or time or space...and that he says that he thinks that we do not understand Time and Space... Then he goes on to describe them from being physical objects and How we may interpretate certain things about them and the effects that they may have on us consciously and psychologically , as well as Human believes about UFOs/ETs..and then goes on to talk about a few various other things..such as egs of sitings..one of the main stories that really interested him ( which no doubt does seem fascinating from what he describes)
He later refers to describe physically how we may determine a UFO and compares a UFO to a Nuclear reactor as being a lot of high energy source within a set small space..but with having emitted through Light energy and pulsed micowave energy. 2) Then he describes how it may effect anyone who may be close to it upon witnessing it..3) He describes what is the Social effects on our culture and belief systems..
But within or After this...I am not sure that he really offers to much further indepth analysis as to what his more indepth other dimension space and time theory may be...
As he refers to Light energy and Microwave Pulses...and another dimension...I assume that he may be referring to other parts of the Electro-magnetic Frequency (EMF) spectrum...which MAY be coming from other forms of wavelengths as I think I may consider.. If so...
This I would Not dismiss..and I have seen theories based upon this before...In Physics the EMF consists of a series of various wave lengths of which Light is Just one part of it that we as Humans can actually see..
( Or I think we are led to believe that we can as Light is also of another form that being a particle as in the Quantum Physics world )
Other parts of the EMF are in terms of size of wavelength starting with larger to small waves are : Radio waves ...( Long Medium and Short waves ), Microwaves, Infra red, Ultraviolet and X Rays and Gama Rays..
Thinking that maybe physical solid or visible non solid type of objects as we may think of them could exist within another wavelength other than visible light...may be difficult to understand for some, but for others who have some understanding this may seem possible.. just as an example.
some describe these wavelengths as having different phases...Like a sinewave can vary in its pattern and form.. that may be described as existing within the either...( Space /Universe)
Then if objects could not exist within these EMF wavelengths as we know it..then maybe there are other forms or phases of waves or frequencies that they could exist in that we are still yet to discover.. like Parallel universes.. This I could possible believe to be possible if this is what Jacques Vallee refers to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation
I am not sure that just the Human belief system and psychological effects would or could be reasons alone to say if enough people believe that something has to be real without some more of a scientific or technical reason....
But thinking that UFOs or ETs could arrive from other parallel universes that I could seriously consider as a possibility..
And that is something that David Icke has talked about ..
QuoteIf you have time listen carefully to what you hear from these guys ...Jacques Vallee and Terrence Mckenna. Please do it if you want to understand there is more to this that you normally hear on the web.
QuoteI don't agree completely with any researcher but they are worth a listen. All UFOlogists need to broaden their perspective and I include myself in that.
Quote from: astr0144 on December 16, 2013, 05:17:59 AM
When you say.......I am not sure how you or we or who ever may define and Alien and or an E.T.... I assumed for the sake of our discussion that normally on PRC we call an Alien and E.T... but I know that Alien can be defined in various ways..ie some Humans can be classed as Alien if they are strangers..
Agreed, Pim baffled me here too.
In regards to your comments Astro, about EMF and Dimensions, I find this perfectly acceptable also.
I however do not make the general distinction between extraterrestrial and extradimensional - as the details are slightly irrelevant until the human race actually acknowledges it isn't alone.
I think the problem in the UFO field is too many people researching the wrong paths, and making the wrong points.
For example, a fair starting point in my opinion would be MY governmant acknowledging that I saw a bonafide saucer.
Secondly, then the need to disclose if
they were spying on me, or if it was an unknown, (or known ::) ) intelligence.
Then we can poke them for info on the occupants.
Less of the Demon/Alien crap - something IS there, and that's whats important.
Got to say Pimander, I'm only just verifying the work of Valle, and I've already found a few mishaps - perhaps one of the most interesting is the fact that he states in Messengers Of Deception Goerge Hunt Williamsons real name was Michel d'Obrenovic.
This was later confirmed by the Yugoslavian Government as false.
They housed a royal house by the name at one stage, however Goerge was most certainly born in Chicago by Mr & Mrs Hunt.
I hate shoddy workmanship.
Quote from: Sinny on December 16, 2013, 09:13:13 AM
Agreed, Pim baffled me here too.
What he's getting at is they well may be terrestrial aliens, likely based either underground or underwater, and have been around a long time.
The ability of aliens to wander around without space suits or breathing apparatus and breathe the air just fine, points to a long term acclimation is the point he feels must be addressed.
There well may be visits from ET aliens as well, but they appear to be in the minority in his view.
Least ways that's what I get from his discussions on the subject.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5372.0 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5372.0)
Anthra has just posted a new video he made that addresses the subject of Zeta Reticulum being the possible culprit home world of aliens that breathe oxygen -
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5836.0 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5836.0)
Quote from: Sinny on December 16, 2013, 09:13:13 AM
I however do not make the general distinction between extraterrestrial and extradimensional
There is a big difference from a science perspective. An alien from a "parallel dimension" could be a very "near" neighbour and interact with us constantly. That an ET would interact with us as frequently as the UFO/alien phenomenon suggests may be possible but seems unlikely. This is one of the strength of the EDH.
Quote- as the details are slightly irrelevant until the human race actually acknowledges it isn't alone.
But the difference could be hugely important when deciding how to make contact.
So to answer astro and yourself, I think there may be multitudes of aliens (think spiritualism, shamanism, Gods also) there may be very few ETs in contact with Earth.
Quote from: Pimander on January 10, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
But the difference could be hugely important when deciding how to make contact.
Can we not just make a big sign? :P ;D