Does anybody know why there is a tendency to leave spheres on the edge of craters? They're roughly the same size as the stone spheres in Costa Rica, but they might be hollow to transport whatever's being mined.
Gas tanks for storing Helium 3 ;)
My money is on empty alien beer kegs for the workers. Mining is hard work.
deuem
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/images/ODD/ale-2.jpg)
go2toa, if you had some photos of the spheres to add to your post, it would help a lot. Deuem
(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/SferaConSfera_zps419b715d.jpg)
The un says its art.that aint art.thats high voltage.the things inside are high voltage brushes.i dont know what it is but i know what the parts are.it has something to do with static electricity.my guess.kinetic energy space mines.
Quote from: robomont on January 10, 2014, 12:42:23 PM
The un says its art.that aint art.
Art can be made with any thing, it doesn't stop it from being art if it's made with high voltage brushes.
And yes, that one (along with several others) was made by an Italian sculptor, Arnaldo Pomodoro.
If I had to guess, I'd go with tanks to hold highly pressurized gas. If a coke can of Helium 3 could power a car for 1 year, imagine what a 10' sphere could power.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PcFBr5X8ShY/ThQba46K8iI/AAAAAAAABi8/QvaOF6-TTik/s1600/Lunar+Bases+2.jpg
They are sprinkled around buildings, usually on the edge of craters. Sometimes they appear to be linked, forming a straight line, usually longer than the straight lines in this photo, but those could be pipes of roughly the same diameter.
Two unusual things in this picture: high concentration of spheres without buildings, and a backward c of spheres inside a small crater. Scattered spheres in the vicinity in loose pattern is common. They're disposable work items. I've even seem them thrown around buildings and even the edge of driveways.
Sometimes you'll see guys get excited about a symmetric convergence of lights. Those are just spheres lined up reflecting sunlight. And that's nothing really.
I asked Jaxa to comment but they didn't respond.
Quote from: go2toa on January 11, 2014, 06:54:53 PM
Two unusual things in this picture: high concentration of spheres without buildings
I take that back, there is a small building with a little parking lot surrounding it in the lower right corner. That's a good way to gauge the size of the spheres. Without a trailer, a full size pick up from here might haul just one sphere.
I took that image into Photoshop and played with the levels. Very curious that the black areas stay black black black, and do not resolve into ANY info on the floor of the crater. This suggests some tampering likely took place where the floor was painted black deliberately.
Quote from: Amaterasu on January 11, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
This suggests some tampering likely took place where the floor was painted black deliberately.
Or it suggests that the image had the contrast increased, as most people prefer a high contrast image to a low contrast image, even if the low contrast image has more detail.
Google usually increases the contrast of all the Moon and Mars photos.
ArMaP, I have not seen any photo that will not bring out SOMETHING in shadows - even ones that had contrast played with.
Quote from: Amaterasu on January 11, 2014, 08:34:43 PM
ArMaP, I have not seen any photo that will not bring out SOMETHING in shadows - even ones that had contrast played with.
I suppose you do that to all the photos you see...
All the ones that look like something may be hiding in "shadows..." [smile]
Quote from: Amaterasu on January 11, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
All the ones that look like something may be hiding in "shadows..." [smile]
Then I suppose you haven't looked at many Google Moon photos. :)
Why would You suppose that, ArMap?
Quote from: Amaterasu on January 11, 2014, 08:49:17 PM
Why would You suppose that, ArMap?
Because there are many with completely black shadows.
And completely black shadows are nothing strange when photographing a bright object that is partly in shadow, if the camera "sees" the bright areas it has to lose detail on the black areas and vice versa.
Ok.
"Arnalddo Pomodoro"
Arnold Tomato :P
Are you serious?
How could anyone believe someone with such a name :D
I reckon it's a Stargate motor, kind of 'in your face' art...
But then i know nothing of art :P
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on January 11, 2014, 09:18:38 PM
"Arnalddo Pomodoro"
Arnold Tomato :P
Are you serious?
How could anyone believe someone with such a name :D
We have worse names in Portuguese. ;D
Quote from: Amaterasu on January 11, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
I took that image into Photoshop and played with the levels. Very curious that the black areas stay black black black, and do not resolve into ANY info on the floor of the crater. This suggests some tampering likely took place where the floor was painted black deliberately.
Why? If there is not enough light for the film you will get BLACK
If there was tampering why would they leave the Spheres, Buildings, Etc in to let you see them?
"Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad" ~ Spock
I have seen them but can't find the pics right now I DO have one on Mars that has a row of them. Look at the bottom point and follow the shoreline up/right
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Water/Lake_03_M0901354.gif)
Added a little color for perspective :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Water/Lake_03_Colored.jpg)
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2014, 10:09:07 PM
Added a little color for perspective :P
Not for perspective but to make people think what you want them to think. :P
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2014, 10:09:07 PM
I have seen them but can't find the pics right now I DO have one on Mars that has a row of them. Look at the bottom point and follow the shoreline up/right
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Water/Lake_03_M0901354.gif)
Added a little color for perspective :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Water/Lake_03_Colored.jpg)
Because of Z's reply, what has been suggested, how about the possibility of at least some of these spheres being water holding tanks?? Even his black and white suggests that for consideration!
Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
Not for perspective but to make people think what you want them to think. :P
Ah yes its called PM Perception Management :D The Government is expert at it ;)
Water's a good theory. Most living things need it. And it's probably in short supply. And it explains the tendency to put it high on the edge of a crater or top of a hill....no pump necessary to get the last drop.
I do lean slightly towards pressure gas though, since water is a low pressure item, and you can put it in rectangle containers.
As for the silver ball, it may have no industrial function but was perhaps inspired by the first generation of foo fighters. They were silver, not glowing, and appeared to be trying to disrupt ignition systems of WW2 aircraft. Photos of glowing foo fighters are rare. Photos of silver ones are more rare. More likely you'd find a news story clipping about it. Maybe the artist was recreating what he thought the inside would look like.
No OP picture and a blog as a link, UT and all Blogs are blocked for many parts of the world. Please learn how to post a photo for the rest of us out in blocked cyber land. TY Deuem
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2014, 11:35:14 PM
Ah yes its called PM Perception Management :D The Government is expert at it ;)
I don't like it, regardless of who does it.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 12, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
I don't like it, regardless of who does it.
Well that was colored by some ATS dude :P
But sure looks like a lake to me :D
As for the "spheres" on that Google Moon image, as expected, they do not exist on the Jaxa photos.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img203/346/dnns.png)
And yes, this also has a perfectly black shadow inside the crater, but this doesn't.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img716/5735/2e8j.png)
Quote from: zorgon on January 12, 2014, 02:06:21 AM
Well that was colored by some ATS dude :P
I know, I remember it.
QuoteBut sure looks like a lake to me :D
Lakes are not above the surface, like a mesa, and this one is, this arrow shows the direction of the light.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img19/9312/loe.gif)
Good point of view armap.lol.
I didnt notice that.i too thought it was water until you said that.
Is there a jaxa image with spheres? Probably somewhere. Can i point to one i know jaxa took? Not off the top of my head.
The reason is more complicated.
china, india and japan have being looking around the moon recently. I'm confident the first two would withhold valuable info, like the us and former ussr. And one probe from japan got within a few miles of spheres, at low altitude with unprecedented camera technology for the area.
Btw that blog with the photo was not mine. I felt like i just joined a ford car forum and needed to get a picture of a mustang.
Quote from: robomont on January 12, 2014, 03:22:28 AM
I didnt notice that.i too thought it was water until you said that.
It's CO2 Ice :D
It could be water, Think of Lava. If it comes up on a flat surface it will be higher than the surrounding areas. Even on Earth I have seen a water main break under the road and flood the road. During the winter it spreads out until it freezes. This happens over and over until the water is shut off or you have a frozen lake above the surface. It happens.....I would think that if this was left unchecked for years or centuries the formation of what looks like a lake would result.
Deuem
Quote from: go2toa on January 12, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
Is there a jaxa image with spheres? Probably somewhere. Can i point to one i know jaxa took? Not off the top of my head.
I know I have never seen a photo from any space agency that shows spheres, on the Moon or any other place outside Earth. :)
Quote from: robomont on January 10, 2014, 12:36:46 PM
(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/SferaConSfera_zps419b715d.jpg)
HA Robo, PWM, Thats just what i thought I LIKE YOUR THINKING.
lets plug her in :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgwprntqqmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgwprntqqmE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgwprntqqmE)
Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
Not for perspective but to make people think what you want them to think. :P
Gold for that ;D ahaa.