There is an American DNS Server attack right now.
We are all on Skype confirming this is happening right now. Some people can get Peggy, some can't. Seems like Cali is the biggest hit with over 43,000 active programs doing the attacking. Another 40,000 at Washingto DC. Hold onto your shorts. Skynet might be taking over. lots of luck to all.
Deuem, Armap, PWM, Back, Robo, A51, Amy
The attack according to PWM has now moved into Europe.
Getting interesting and expensive for people.
signed,
The same group.
Update Russia, Japan and China getting hit.
Cali up to over 60,000 now.
New Your getting hit
Texas and Brazil are now getting hit hard.
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Thks for info Guys...
Seems like it could be what we all fear most in terms of our online activities.. and even worse if it leads to major World destruction of all Business and services...
A relief to see PRC back online.. it was off for about 45 mins at a guess in the UK.. :o
It seems to be going after Gov sites.
Washington and Cali are solid red
England is red and the center of Russia is Red
This is team Pegasus doing Research live round the world.
Hey all,
Yes there is some kind of a problem with California for sure, at least trying to load PRC.
I am on a TOR browser now, it allowed me to find the forum and log in.
Otherwise, in IE, Safari was not able to view the forum.
Is there anything that can be done to safeguard the forum?
It's finally working for me, after some 8 hours. :)
Looks like something is happening.
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http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
When I came back online about 30 to45 mins ago...I could not access PRC again for about 10 mins...Fortunately it came back in a much shorter time than my earlier initial problem...
Yea it's been down all day for me here in the uk.
Who's doing it? I don't have skype but maybe it's time to get skyped up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtjhWhw2I8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtjhWhw2I8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtjhWhw2I8)
This maybe nothing but.....
I slipped into the Matrix the other day and was told there is war coming.
Server has been impossible to get a live chat person all day waited hours to get through
Domain name has been set to a new IP addrress
Problem is I still cannot get into my own site via the web
I am using a Proxy right now...
Odd thing is that my daughters computer can access it but mine and my wife's can't
Have reset and cleared all caches, cookies anything I can think of but FF, chrome or IE get through... keep getting a cannot find server
tried rebooting the modem to change computer IP but so far no luck. Didn't think of the Proxy till just now. Have spent 4 hours cleaning off bugs on my wife's comp. Finally got that fixed (I hope)
So will have to see if I can fix this in the morning. Seems the pointers are stuck on the old IP and I can't figure out where to change them
I am able to get on now.
Back
Seems to be back up for me but for awhile yesterday I had the internet all to myself. wooopeeee
Peggy was click heaven till the proxie in the states got hit, then I was sent to the below spot.
Deuem
Fortunately I seemed to have missed all the fun,er crap; when I left out yesterday am was having no issues, then yesterday aft logged right in; so WTF is going on, y'all?
seeker
Finally, i'm BACK!
Looks like my threat to wipe Anon's server may have worked, in another 30 mins i would have deleted the whole damn server, GRRR
ETA; US still taking a lot of hits, Calif. 2.1 million hits /hour :o
Quote from: zorgon on January 19, 2014, 11:31:58 AM
Server has been impossible to get a live chat person all day waited hours to get through
Domain name has been set to a new IP addrress
Problem is I still cannot get into my own site via the web
I am using a Proxy right now...
Odd thing is that my daughters computer can access it but mine and my wife's can't
Have reset and cleared all caches, cookies anything I can think of but FF, chrome or IE get through... keep getting a cannot find server
tried rebooting the modem to change computer IP but so far no luck. Didn't think of the Proxy till just now. Have spent 4 hours cleaning off bugs on my wife's comp. Finally got that fixed (I hope)
So will have to see if I can fix this in the morning. Seems the pointers are stuck on the old IP and I can't figure out where to change them
Copy and paste the following code into notpad and name flush.bat
@echo off
color 0A
ipconfig /release
echo The IP address has been released. Waiting to renew
ipconfig /flushdns
echo The DNS cache has been flushed
arp -d
ipconfig /renew
echo The IP address has been renewed
pauseDouble click it and it cleans the dns cache and resets the ipconfig.
Edit to ad:
This is for the local windows machine only and not the server.
AND!
Look at your computers hostfile. Some dirty Jinn aka NSA may have slipped a 127 loop in there.
Hi Gigas,
Interesting what you posted..
Are you quite knowledgeable about Computer attacks, viruses etc..
When you mention about NSA may slip in something into ones computer and refer to the computers hostfile...
Does that tend to be a place that the likes of NSA , CIA , MI5 etc may place things on our computers if they monitor us & where evidence of it may be found....
I was disturbed to learn that some of the well known antivirus software can be and has been used to spy on us with the creator of Macafee admitting to that he has turned on some part of it in the past to monitor & spy certain people ....
Not sure what to think of AV programs anymore !
Anyone is welcome to spy on me, as much as they like, because then they will come to know me,
as I really am ! :)
Just so long as they don't stuff up things on my computer... I don't mind at all... LOL.
Quote from: Gigas on January 19, 2014, 07:44:53 PM
This is for the local windows machine only and not the server.
That is what it was local machine cache
Server is fine but I am still getting people writing me they can't get in. Will pass this along via email
Thanks much
Hi Matrix,
Not myself being an expert on computers , viruses / spyware..I am not exactly sure how it all works...It seems rather a complex subject..
As far as I know somehow, anyone who knows what they are doing can send some form of code to spy on another persons computer if they have the right things in place...
I thought that in most cases they send the spyware or code to get actually onto or into our computers....somehow... often this can occur if we upload certain things to our computers or click on links on certain websites or within emails etc....Some Antiviruses May detect them and prevent harm..Hoping that Not all the AVs we use are not also aimed at spying on or monitoring us..unlike Mcafee admitted..
I suspect and only suspect that maybe the likes of the CIA / NSA have the very best spyware, or viruses that most AVs cannot detect...
That certainly makes me wonder..
Depending what one has on their computer..in my case , It would certainly concern me if I knew that Gov Spy organisations or anyone with the right know how could look into things on my computer hard drive, that one wants to remain purely private or secret...be it Financial information, special software or anything else..
So I THINK it may be the case that they do or can access direct into ones computer files..
I had someone destroy some of my past websites in the past and that caused me no end of problems & expense in time and money..
QuoteAnyone is welcome to spy on me, as much as they like, because then they will come to know me,
as I really am ! :)
Just so long as they don't stuff up things on my computer... I don't mind at all... LOL.
Quote from: zorgon on January 19, 2014, 11:47:12 PM
Server is fine but I am still getting people writing me they can't get in. Will pass this along via email
I have had problems with some sites all day, getting a page saying that it was possible to get a DNS response (or something like that).
I changed my network DNS server from Google to my ISP's server (I changed some time ago when I was having problems with my ISP's DNS server) and the problems stopped.
Almost 3 million attacks today (per hour)
1 of my PC's is compromised :(
NOT ONE story breaking anywhere, except this one.
http://www.proofpoint.com/products/targeted-attack-protection/internet-of-things.php (http://www.proofpoint.com/products/targeted-attack-protection/internet-of-things.php)
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Picture: Deuem :)
Quote from: astr0144 on January 19, 2014, 11:19:01 PM
Hi Gigas,
Interesting what you posted..
Are you quite knowledgeable about Computer attacks, viruses etc..
When you mention about NSA may slip in something into ones computer and refer to the computers hostfile...
Does that tend to be a place that the likes of NSA , CIA , MI5 etc may place things on our computers if they monitor us & where evidence of it may be found....
I was disturbed to learn that some of the well known antivirus software can be and has been used to spy on us with the creator of Macafee admitting to that he has turned on some part of it in the past to monitor & spy certain people ....
Not sure what to think of AV programs anymore !
Every program installed opens your computer to someone. Microsoft just deleted tor in computers that had been hacked and a virus of sorts installed tor secretly to zombie the pc and do some work for the hackers.
The fbi set up a global network of DNS servers 2011 to monitor internet traffic for a DNS virus sent round the planet. I noticed it was then that my internet slowed to a crawl and since, every one has been slowed down. My findings for this is the NSA and FBI are looking at everything. The FBI did come clean on that DNS server switcheroo and said they are going to turn off anyones computer from getting on the net if they failed to clean the virus off their machine(s) by July 2013.
YOU MIGHT WANNA READ THIS.
https://forms.fbi.gov/check-to-see-if-your-computer-is-using-rogue-DNS
Thanks for the feedback Gigas, 8)
I had no idea about the fbi activities...Very concerning !
I will have to try and understand & if possible act on some of this...
What a nightmare it is having a computer / internet connection these days ! :o
May have to ask a few more questions at some later time if need be..
Cheers for now !
Just to add to the issue of spyware and viruses..
I had a host site that I had some websites on a few years ago...after trying to learn some basic webdesign..
and one day I found my web host site had been hacked several days or weeks after I clicked on one of my own website and also obtained a virus on my computer.
I tried to run several of the FREE Antivirus programs on my computer... ( Not my Host site/server) and NONE removed the virus..
In the end I had to use the services of a special Free Forum (of Computer experts who deal with virus removal) that after many days eventually helped me at least get my computer to run at least reasonably again..( That was a previous hard drive from what I use now) but it was an utter nightmare and even the experts had issues trying to deal with it.
I later accessed my host site and looked at the HTML code on my webpages... and found the Program Code/s of the virus...
To make things worse they varied..
I was later informed that the two main ways that I could have been attacked were some hacker accessing my password to get into behind my web host/ html webpages..
Or if one had what is known as a OPT in Form on the webpage.. that is for someone to sign up for something like further information on something... ie one would send their name and email address to ask for more information...that a hacker could just as easily send the virus through the opt in form..and I assume that this could infect everything / every webpage on the host server site...
Then if anyone was to click on that webpage their computer would become infected..like mine did..
If it is that easy for them to just send a virus through a OPT IN page form.. ie where you fill in your name and email address... then I do not see any way to stop them...other than not have any opt in page and always change your password on a regular basis.
THERE MAY be some Hosting website services that can be protected with some sort of security, but it would be very expensive.
After later trying to research them..Most if not all cheaper ones are NOT protected...there are just too many customers using them to be able to protect all the host sites..
Also for anyone not already aware....
Beware of spyware / malware that can track your keyboard strokes..what is known as Keylogger spyware....
It can monitor your keyboard activity and anything that you may write.. such as New creation of Passwords... so changing password is no guarantee of security...unless you know you are not being monitored..
I am sure in the past I had this on one my computers...
From what I recall yes it slows things down and one can see that it becomes awkward to say write emails and the browser or mouse movements or writing of each letter when doing an email become delayed..ie you write a word or letter and it seems to take a second or two for the letters to appear as you write...ie there is a delay in the letters appearing on the screen in an email message or eg..
That's when they almost monitor everything we do on our computers in terms of writing things !
I used to hang at Alpha Tango Spookz till I discovered they were infecting visitors. I had used an old machine with windows me and it was so jazzed up from there that I finally bought a new vista computer and that was when I seen what was happening.
Vista caught them installing some software of sorts that I should have taken a screen shot but was so frantic in protecting my new machine I clicked it off and from that time I installed a firewall with the ability to see web beacons for tracking and there it was. They tracked me and some others but not all logins.
I posted a thread on it and of course septic overflow denied it and tried to turn it around by saying I was blocking their ads which was against their tos. So they obviously knew what they was a doin and tried to cover their azz'z by turning the issue into me doing the tos violation.
I had people there contact me to see if they were tracked and I told those who wanted to know whether they were or were not. Funny how many were all zombie and refused to believe me but fell right in with septic overflow as they went about business as usual.
To this day I stay away from Alpha Tango Spookz and only land there from an obfuscated link.
Along time ago I had a small little insignificant software to monitor the internet traffic into and out of my pc. The software developer went into my pc and uninstalled it, remotely.
I ran a server from home once and that got wiped clean with file deletions. That was only a honey pot to see what would happen and it happened rather quick.
Even running a firewall doesn't help.
This was when they did the John Lear purge.
Thanks for further insight of your unfortunate experiences Gigas...
seems ATS were an utter ASS...Maybe they should be titled more like "Above Secret Security (ASS)" or something similar..
It is very annoying if Firewalls are also invalid with regards to certain things...
It appears that it is Very Hard to know what to do to try and protect ones self ! :(
Just incase one missed it, I also added some comments about Keylogging monitoring on my prior post to this thread.
QuoteEven running a firewall doesn't help.
Quote from: astr0144 on January 20, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
Or if one had what is known as a OPT in Form on the webpage.. that is for someone to sign up for something like further information on something... ie one would send their name and email address to ask for more information...that a hacker could just as easily send the virus through the opt in form..and I assume that this could infect everything / every webpage on the host server site...
Then if anyone was to click on that webpage their computer would become infected..like mine did..
If I understand what you are saying right, that happens when the form is not protected against things like that. An opt-in form (or any other form) on a web page sends information back to the server, so someone changes the information that is sent they can, if the site doesn't check the input data, send code instead of sending their name or email address.
If that information is supposed to be presented in a web page to other people (like comments on a blog, for example), the "injected" code will be sent to all the people viewing the page, so they may be affected by that.
Quote from: Gigas on January 20, 2014, 08:16:44 PM
I used to hang at Alpha Tango Spookz till I discovered they were infecting visitors. I had used an old machine with windows me and it was so jazzed up from there that I finally bought a new vista computer and that was when I seen what was happening.
Vista caught them installing some software of sorts that I should have taken a screen shot but was so frantic in protecting my new machine I clicked it off and from that time I installed a firewall with the ability to see web beacons for tracking and there it was. They tracked me and some others but not all logins.
Can you provide any real evidence of that?
Lol.gettem armap.i knew you would jump on this.
I think they run tracking cookies but im not a comp geek.
I know that i use to stop download at 90% because the last 10% was where all the "crap"was.it was so bad sometimes it would lock up my phone.the new software there has improved things but i dont go there but about once a month.
Hi ArMap,
I think what you are indicating is what you think you understand with regards to the comments that I made, that you want to confirm if what I was saying refers to what you have wrote..
If so as far as I know , YES !
If I recall, when one fills in an OPT -In- Form they are connected to the web host server with some code that connects to what is known as an autoresponder....
Autoresponder companies run these to allow anyone to send pre-written messages to anyone who signs up with there Name and Email address in order to say obtain Further information , or a free book or Free report that type of thing etc..
I THINK it may have been my Web Hosting companies support team that explained that Virus codes could be sent through such a form, so say instead of inputting ones name.. a hacker may send some code instead containing the virus...
I am NOT quite sure if by doing this , if it may be able to also effect the autoresponder companies who provide such a service or they may be protected especially the more well known ones...
It may not even affect them..or they may just have them protected.
It may have been also I was using a FREE hence Cheap autoresponder service at the time who may not have any protection... I am not really exactly sure how they operate..
Its a while since I was trying to deal with such forms.. that usually are added to ones webpage in a HTML code to add a form and link it to the autoresponder companies message sending service.
Hope this explains..
QuoteIf I understand what you are saying right, that happens when the form is not protected against things like that. An opt-in form (or any other form) on a web page sends information back to the server, so someone changes the information that is sent they can, if the site doesn't check the input data, send code instead of sending their name or email address.
If that information is supposed to be presented in a web page to other people (like comments on a blog, for example), the "injected" code will be sent to all the people viewing the page, so they may be affected by that.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 20, 2014, 09:19:04 PM
Can you provide any real evidence of that?
Of what, John Lear was run off from spookzville, or that they were tracking certain people.
Of course, what I reported is first hand experience. Not some one said, not hear say, but as it happened, to me as I watched them shred John Lear.
Are you insinuating it never happened?
You may wanna check in with Zorgon since I alerted him to what they were doing and even he had doubt, and even then, he wanted to stay in the shadows of the high wire act till shown the door.
Those in denial, will remain true to denial, protecting their programming, no matter how conclusive, the evidence presented.
It went down just how I said it did.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 20, 2014, 09:19:04 PM
Can you provide any real evidence of that?
Yeah log in to ATS without signing in and watch what all comes down those ads etc :D
And watch your task bar and see what all gets loaded when you view a page.
Okay so update....
Connected TVs, fridge help launch global cyberattackQuote(CNN) -- It's bad enough that we have to fear identity thieves who are trying to scam us with malicious messages sent from PCs.
We now must worry about being targeted by our household appliances, as well.
An Internet-security firm has discovered what they are calling a global cyberattack launched from more than 100,000 everyday consumer gadgets such as home-networking routers, televisions and at least one "smart" refrigerator.
It's being called possibly the first proven cyberattack to originate from connected appliances -- the so-called "Internet of Things."
THIS explains why only some people were effected. It also explains why my daughter could get into the site and I couldn't or from wife's comp. It targeted IP blocks on only certain devices maybe she wasn't online when the attack cam.
It explains why the server said everything was fine.
Rebooting the router and cable modem gives me a new IP within 24 hours so when I got up in the morning everything was back to normal
.
What i dont understand is why great britain and france are getting it harder than the rest of us.even russia and china have almost wiped it out per that website that shows attacks.
Quote from: Gigas on January 20, 2014, 10:34:02 PM
Of what, John Lear was run off from spookzville, or that they were tracking certain people.
No, that "they were infecting visitors" and that they were "installing some software of sorts".
QuoteAre you insinuating it never happened?
No, I don't do that "insinuating" thing, when I want to say something I say it, I was just asking if you have real evidence of that happening.
QuoteYou may wanna check in with Zorgon since I alerted him to what they were doing and even he had doubt, and even then, he wanted to stay in the shadows of the high wire act till shown the door.
You alerted him of what?
Quote from: zorgon on January 21, 2014, 12:05:11 AM
Yeah log in to ATS without signing in and watch what all comes down those ads etc :D
The ads are as much from ATS as the Amazon link on Pegasus is from Pegasus.
QuoteAnd watch your task bar and see what all gets loaded when you view a page.
I don't remember seeing any thing being loaded on the task bar just from visiting
any site, except pop-unders and Java applets or ActiveX controls (when I accept them).
Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.
I dont mean this in a bad way but im curious Armap.why do you try protect atx so aggressively.do you have financial or personal interest with them?
Ive known you a few years now and they are to you like pegasus is to me.
Quote from: robomont on January 21, 2014, 01:19:27 AM
Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.
I agree, and that happens even with other ATS members and even moderators, I never had any problems like that in the almost 11 years I have been visiting ATS, either as a visitor (at the beginning), a member or a moderator. One thing I know is different is the targeted advertising, as ATS has few Portuguese members (at the moment I remember 3 or 4 active members), and the adverts are the cause of most complaints I have seen.
QuoteI dont mean this in a bad way but im curious Armap.why do you try protect atx so aggressively.
Because, to me, those accusations are serious and not proven, saying that they are infecting other people's computers is not the same thing as stating our opinions about some of the members' personalities.
Quotedo you have financial or personal interest with them?
I wish I had financial interest, that way I could get some money, it would be very handy. :)
QuoteIve known you a few years now and they are to you like pegasus is to me.
That's the funny thing, to me, ATS and Pegasus are the same, forums with topics and members that I like. Both have things I don't like, but nothing special. :)
Quote from: robomont on January 21, 2014, 01:19:27 AM
Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.
I dont mean this in a bad way but im curious Armap.why do you try protect atx so aggressively.do you have financial or personal interest with them?
Ive known you a few years now and they are to you like pegasus is to me.
Doesn't he mod there still or has in the past.
I had numerous flash ads trying to download something to my computer and everybody was complaining and I had a thread going on that nefarious behavior but as usual, septic overload denied anything was wrong. I have not been back and the evidence I screen printed is history cause no one cared to hear the truth.
I did see an image somewhere in my images archive of the source code where they inserted a zero gif in the points accumulation by the user login status. It clearly shows the color code change. I could see a red x box in the applause points when the user was logged in and that user was being tracked along with me.
No one wanted to hear it cause zombies never listen to warnings when under the Alpha Tango Spook spell.
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 03:16:07 AM
Doesn't he mod there still or has in the past.
Yes, I am a moderator on ATS.
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 03:52:19 AM
I had numerous flash ads trying to download something to my computer and everybody was complaining and I had a thread going on that nefarious behavior but as usual, septic overload denied anything was wrong. I have not been back and the evidence I screen printed is history cause no one cared to hear the truth.
The ads are not part of the site.
QuoteI did see an image somewhere in my images archive of the source code where they inserted a zero gif in the points accumulation by the user login status. It clearly shows the color code change. I could see a red x box in the applause points when the user was logged in and that user was being tracked along with me.
There's no need for a zero gif to get information about some user, the fact that the user logged in to the site is enough to send all the information the gif can send.
Heck, G**goyle is into everything already, if i write a thread on bananas at ATS, the very next pop-up will be for FruitOnline.com :P
So maybe ATS isn't even aware of it, but they should know what kind of carp is coming onto their pages.
If that happened here we would have a riot LOL
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on January 21, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
So maybe ATS isn't even aware of it, but they should know what kind of carp is coming onto their pages.
That's the problem with targeted advertising, while you may see ads for fruit on-line I see different ads, as I didn't see exactly the same pages and my IP address points to a different country.
Yes, but it means the googlebots knew i was talking fruit & changed the ads accordingly.
What if i started talking how to make neutron bombs?
Maybe no pop-ups then, just some big shiny boots crashing through my door..... :-X
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on January 21, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
Yes, but it means the googlebots knew i was talking fruit & changed the ads accordingly.
Yes.
QuoteWhat if i started talking how to make neutron bombs?
Maybe no pop-ups then, just some big shiny boots crashing through my door..... :-X
Maybe, like that guy in the UK that said that, during the riots some years ago, said on Facebook that he was going to get a new TV and got a visit from the police.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 21, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
The ads are not part of the site.
There's no need for a zero gif to get information about some user, the fact that the user logged in to the site is enough to send all the information the gif can send.
The zero gif is another name for a web beacon that a third party uses to track logins. I was pegged with a web beacon zero gif and when I was logged in they tracked me across the domain as they did all those others who had web beacons placed on their logins.
I knew they were watching me and they would send keys to my computer to take me off the post window because they monitored that window in real time by some admin console.
When the target typed something they didn't like, they send keys to cause the browser to go back in history, open menu options and basically disrupt the message being typed so when the sender was taken off the message post window, the message would be erased because the post system didn't use a session cookie.
You can use whatever strategy of denial in defense of them. I know what really went on.
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
The zero gif is another name for a web beacon that a third party uses to track logins.
If it's a third party does it mean it's not the site?
QuoteI was pegged with a web beacon zero gif and when I was logged in they tracked me across the domain as they did all those others who had web beacons placed on their logins.
Only on that domain, so the web beacon gives only information that the site already has.
QuoteI knew they were watching me and they would send keys to my computer to take me off the post window because they monitored that window in real time by some admin console.
This is why I asked for
real evidence, saying "I knew" is not evidence of anything.
QuoteWhen the target typed something they didn't like, they send keys to cause the browser to go back in history, open menu options and basically disrupt the message being typed so when the sender was taken off the message post window, the message would be erased because the post system didn't use a session cookie.
So, that means that they had a person just to do that whenever you were logged on?
QuoteYou can use whatever strategy of denial in defense of them. I know what really went on.
No need for that, your explanation is enough.
PS: Opera doesn't need session cookies to keep the posts on the textarea when you return to the page where you were writing your post, that's how I once recovered someone's post that I edited thinking I was quoting.
Whoever was tracked had the same problems because I was pm'd from users who were id'd to be tracked as having issues with the site. Its a spook site so which three letter agency would have access to their database screen scraping information, IP's, names and locations and mess with people reporting real stuff rather than make it up to muddy the information pipeline.
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
Whoever was tracked had the same problems because I was pm'd from users who were id'd to be tracked as having issues with the site.
How can you know that those weren't spooks messing with you and making you follow a wrong path?
QuoteIts a spook site so which three letter agency would have access to their database screen scraping information, IP's, names and locations and mess with people reporting real stuff rather than make it up to muddy the information pipeline.
If they have access to the database with all the information, along with the IP addresses and locations, why did they need the web beacons?
Hi Gigas /ArMap & Fellow PRC members who may know about Computers... or the Virus or spyware issues that as I understand from Gigas's post are ones that were probably undetectable to normal spyware/malware AV programs...
I am NOT sure that I trust doing anything on the FBI link below..
I can see some various posts made in relation to some of the issues with some code created...but I am not sure i this applies to us all or Just those with websites or Forums like PRC...
IS that something that all of us should do just on our normal computers to get around this DNS server thing..
Is there any other solutions from trying to check if I have a problem through that FBI site...
I did note on my other computer that I have had problems that AV & malware / spyware software does not seem to resolve and it does keep slowing down severe at times & may even appear to have a keylogger issue..
Thank you for any advice in advance..
QuoteEvery program installed opens your computer to someone. Microsoft just deleted tor in computers that had been hacked and a virus of sorts installed tor secretly to zombie the pc and do some work for the hackers.
The fbi set up a global network of DNS servers 2011 to monitor internet traffic for a DNS virus sent round the planet. I noticed it was then that my internet slowed to a crawl and since, every one has been slowed down. My findings for this is the NSA and FBI are looking at everything. The FBI did come clean on that DNS server switcheroo and said they are going to turn off anyones computer from getting on the net if they failed to clean the virus off their machine(s) by July 2013.
YOU MIGHT WANNA READ THIS.
https://forms.fbi.gov/check-to-see-if-your-computer-is-using-rogue-DNS
Quote from: ArMaP on January 22, 2014, 01:33:12 AM
How can you know that those weren't spooks messing with you and making you follow a wrong path?
If they have access to the database with all the information, along with the IP addresses and locations, why did they need the web beacons?
Simple, they wanted to be alerted when those with web beacons logged in and than could be followed and when the target opens the post a message window, they see in real time what was typed and go from there.
I know this because I worked in a corporate enviroment using that technology.
Quote from: astr0144 on January 23, 2014, 05:53:52 PM
Hi Gigas /ArMap & Fellow PRC members who may know about Computers... or the Virus or spyware issues that as I understand from Gigas's post are ones that were probably undetectable to normal spyware/malware AV programs...
I am NOT sure that I trust doing anything on the FBI link below..
I can see some various posts made in relation to some of the issues with some code created...but I am not sure i this applies to us all or Just those with websites or Forums like PRC...
IS that something that all of us should do just on our normal computers to get around this DNS server thing..
Is there any other solutions from trying to check if I have a problem through that FBI site...
I did note on my other computer that I have had problems that AV & malware / spyware software does not seem to resolve and it does keep slowing down severe at times & may even appear to have a keylogger issue..
Thank you for any advice in advance..
FBI and NSA are whats slowing everyones computers now days. Nothing you can do about it, but, know it
Quote from: Gigas on January 23, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
Simple, they wanted to be alerted when those with web beacons logged in and than could be followed and when the target opens the post a message window, they see in real time what was typed and go from there.
Who are "they"? ATS? Someone else? ???
And yes, it's possible to receive on another computer the text you are writing on a web page that you are watching on your computer, but I don't see why they (whoever "they" may be) would need all that trouble to see something you were going to make public. To see you make corrections? ???
QuoteI know this because I worked in a corporate enviroment using that technology.
What technology, web pages? ???
Are you a zombie, because your circular thinking suggest you are
Quote from: astr0144 on January 23, 2014, 05:53:52 PM
IS that something that all of us should do just on our normal computers to get around this DNS server thing..
Is there any other solutions from trying to check if I have a problem through that FBI site...
That specific problem was solved, so if you had that problem you wouldn't be able to access anything on the Internet, as your computer would be looking for a DNS server that no longer exists.
QuoteI did note on my other computer that I have had problems that AV & malware / spyware software does not seem to resolve and it does keep slowing down severe at times & may even appear to have a keylogger issue..
The problem with antivirus is that they either act on what they know (virus signatures), so they can only act after the virus has been analysed or they act in "heuristic system" , as they used to call when they started using them, that analyses the programs' actions to see if they act in the same way as virus, but most of the time that only makes things slower and may prevent good programs from working.
In the company where I work we have a program (made by us) that uses a fake EXE file as a licence file, and there was some antivirus that thought it was a virus, as it was an EXE file with content that wasn't expected.
PS: the best way of making your computer slower is to install two antivirus, as they will fight for resources to analyse your computer.
Quote from: Gigas on January 23, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
Are you a zombie, because your circular thinking suggest you are
What circular thinking, asking questions? ???
PS: maybe I have been playing Zombie Lane for too long. ;D
That's exactly how a zombie would respond, not to mention your loyalty to Tango Spookz shows ever so well.
Now, if you want to redeem that zombie label, take what I have given you and look to your sponsors for answers. Its all right there if you're willing to see it.
Quote from: Gigas on January 23, 2014, 10:17:17 PM
That's exactly how a zombie would respond
That's exactly how a troll would respond. ;)
Quotenot to mention your loyalty to Tango Spookz shows ever so well.
Sorry for being loyal to a site I know for more than 10 years, but that's how I am.
QuoteNow, if you want to redeem that zombie label, take what I have given you and look to your sponsors for answers.
What sponsors? I don't understand a thing of what you're saying.
Why don't you give straight answers instead of dancing around the subject?
Ya, your 100% zombie. Thanks for letting your guard down so we can all see you now.
Thanks for confirming Gigas,
I do not fully understand what it is all about or some of the technical terms or instructions etc...with ref to DNS servers or DNS cache..changing network DNS from google to my / our ISP server etc
or if this is just in relation to PRC..
I was Not sure if the other things mentioned like copying that flush.bat code may have applied to us all, or not, such as if those of us just with normal computers, or just to do with Zorgon & his PRC forum..
QuoteFBI and NSA are whats slowing everyones computers now days. Nothing you can do about it, but, know it
QuoteCopy and paste the following code into notpad and name flush.bat
Code: [Select]
@echo off
color 0A
ipconfig /release
echo The IP address has been released. Waiting to renew
ipconfig /flushdns
echo The DNS cache has been flushed
arp -d
ipconfig /renew
echo The IP address has been renewed
pause
Double click it and it cleans the dns cache and resets the ipconfig.
Edit to ad:
This is for the local windows machine only and not the server.
AND!
Look at your computers hostfile. Some dirty Jinn aka NSA may have slipped a 127 loop in there.
QuoteI have had problems with some sites all day, getting a page saying that it was possible to get a DNS response (or something like that).
I changed my network DNS server from Google to my ISP's server (I changed some time ago when I was having problems with my ISP's DNS server) and the problems stopped.
I appreciate your reply & explanation ArtMap,
Its good to know it is not presently a concern from what I think I understand in your reply..
When you say that Specific problem was solved...Does that mean since the recent issue we just had, not being able to access PRC, or do you mean back in 2013 with ref to the FBI ?
QuoteThat specific problem was solved, so if you had that problem you wouldn't be able to access anything on the Internet, as your computer would be looking for a DNS server that no longer exists.
This does help me try to understand what goes on with / or when AV try's to or doe detect a virus...
QuoteThe problem with antivirus is that they either act on what they know (virus signatures), so they can only act after the virus has been analysed or they act in "heuristic system" , as they used to call when they started using them, that analyses the programs' actions to see if they act in the same way as virus, but most of the time that only makes things slower and may prevent good programs from working.
Yes I can imagine that having two AVs or more could create a lot of complication and slow things down more..
One issue that I have is that I think Windows includes free McAfee AV in its program... BUT it is NOT the complete version.. It just claims to detect problems not resolve them unless you pay to upgrade to the full system..
So I downloaded a Free antivirus program that also removes viruses called Avira....so Now I am not sure if this may be creating a problem in slowing the machine down.
Maybe I can remove the McAfee one if it will allow me..if that may be creating issues..
Otherwise do you have any other Free versions of AV, Spyware / malware removal programs or Firewalls that you would recommend ?
If you can....Many Thanks in advance..
QuotePS: the best way of making your computer slower is to install two antivirus, as they will fight for resources to analyse your computer
Quote from: astr0144 on January 24, 2014, 12:00:46 AM
I appreciate your reply & explanation ArtMap,
It's ArMaP, I'm far from
Artistic. ;D
QuoteWhen you say that Specific problem was solved...Does that mean since the recent issue we just had, not being able to access PRC, or do you mean back in 2013 with ref to the FBI ?
The problem talked about in that FBI page.
QuoteOne issue that I have is that I think Windows includes free McAfee AV in its program... BUT it is NOT the complete version.. It just claims to detect problems not resolve them unless you pay to upgrade to the full system..
It's not Microsoft that does that, it's the computer makers. Acer is one of the makers that sells their computers with a preloaded version of McAffee (I think) that it's very hard to completely remove.
QuoteMaybe I can remove the McAfee one if it will allow me..if that may be creating issues..
Even if you can't remove it I think you can stop it, it should be enough.
QuoteOtherwise do you have any other Free versions of AV, Spyware / malware removal programs or Firewalls that you would recommend ?
The Windows firewall in Windows Vista or latter is good, but you can always use something like ZoneAlarm. As an antivirus I have used AVG (I stopped using it when I saw references to tests in which it had ignored several known Trojans) and Avira (I stopped using it because it slowed down my computer too much). I have never personally used avast! (yes, with a "!" in the end), but it's another popular free antivirus. I have been using Microsoft's Security Essentials as antivirus, as it's the one that affects less the performance of my computer.
PS: as for what happened last weekend with Pegasus and apparently many other sites, if it was really an attack on DNS servers, clearing the DNS cache forces the computer to ask the server for all IP addresses again, so any relation between a name and a bad IP address is removed. The cache is used because DNS queries are slow, as you computer first looks at the "hosts" file to see if you have the name you're looking for (for example, www.thelivingmoon.com) linked to any IP address, and if it doesn't find it it asks the DNS server for it. If the server doesn't have that name on the cache it has to do the same thing with the DNS server it uses, and, in the worst case, they will all ask until they reach the server that is responsible for the thelivingmoon.com domain. That server answers that the name corresponds to some IP address, and all the servers respond to the computer that made the query until the answer reaches your computer and it finally knows the IP address to where it should send the requests. As you can imagine, if there are many queries between servers things get slow, so, when your computer gets the answer it stores it in the cache, so next time it doesn't ask anyone for it. That works because IP addresses of the servers usually don't change.
Quote from: Gigas on January 23, 2014, 10:29:48 PM
Ya, your 100% zombie. Thanks for letting your guard down so we can all see you now.
I don't understand that either...
Appologies for my slip of my keyboard :-[....must have accidently hit the letter "T" :)
However Maybe it depends how one defines artistic !...Maybe Not always just in the visual form...
I can see in your Name Capitals A. M . P but not sure what ArMaP may refer to specifically if anything at all...I do not think it is your real name for eg...
QuoteIt's ArMaP, I'm far from Artistic. ;D
I was wrong about McAfee in ref to Windows..IF I recall now, I think it appeared on my desktop after I downloaded an adobe reader program.
QuoteIt's not Microsoft that does that, it's the computer makers. Acer is one of the makers that sells their computers with a preloaded version of McAffee (I think) that it's very hard to completely remove.
Thks for the info on AV programs....You may have explained why my Computer runs slower if Avira causes it !
QuoteAs an antivirus I have used AVG (I stopped using it when I saw references to tests in which it had ignored several known Trojans)
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and Avira (I stopped using it because it slowed down my computer too much)
I have used MSE in the past.. what I like about it is that you can just select certain files to check with the AV instead of going through a complete process....I would often find Viruses in specific folders or files.
System 32 if I recall being one main one...
I may change back to MSEs instead of staying with Avira !..
QuoteI have been using Microsoft's Security Essentials as antivirus, as it's the one that affects less the performance of my computer.
Quite an explanation....Need to try and digest what you describe.
I am not really sure about if I can clear DNS Cache as such on my computer or if this is something you delete from a website.
As I thought DNS applies to websites not computers..ie with it being ref to domain.. like a domain name of a website...not something to do with my ISP on my own computer..
I can remove something called a cache in Temp Int Files .. I am using windows XP.... under tools, clearing browsing data, empty the cache.
NOT sure if this is DNS cache or if I need to follow a different process.
QuotePS: as for what happened last weekend with Pegasus and apparently many other sites, if it was really an attack on DNS servers, clearing the DNS cache forces the computer to ask the server for all IP addresses again, so any relation between a name and a bad IP address is removed.
thank you...
Quote from: astr0144 on January 24, 2014, 01:23:24 AM
I can see in your Name Capitals A. M . P but not sure what ArMaP may refer to specifically if anything at all...I do not think it is your real name for eg...
Those capital letters are some of the initials of my real name. :)
Argh ! so it does relate to your name...I had thought it may have been letters that was ref to something else..
I accidently posted the last reply too early before I finished what I meant to say in more detail....
So I have now amended it with a few more comments. :)
QuoteThose capital letters are some of the initials of my real name. :)
Quote from: astr0144 on January 24, 2014, 01:23:24 AM
I am not really sure about if I can clear DNS Cache as such on my computer or if this is something you delete from a website.
You can clear the DNS cache by executing the "ipconfig /flushdns" like Gigas posted.
QuoteAs I thought DNS applies to websites not computers..ie with it being ref to domain.. like a domain name of a website...not something to do with my ISP on my own computer..
The domain names are used by websites, but the underlying communication between computers does not, as it uses the IP addresses. When we ask our browsers to show us the page at www.thelivingmoon.com, the first thing it does is to try to find to what IP address that name points to, as it needs that information to communicate with the server.
It's like knowing the name of someone and needing the home address or phone number to communicate with that person, you need their address to send them a letter or their phone number to phone them.
In the case of computers, your browser knows only what you asked for (www.thelivingmoon.com), so it looks in it's "head" (the cache) to see if it "remembers" the phone number. If it doesn't then it looks at it's "personal phone book" (the hosts file, a file with a list of domain names and corresponding IP addresses). If it doesn't find it then it "phones" the "telephone company" (the DNS server registered in your computer's network configuration) to "ask for the phone number" of the person with that name.
So, although the domains are the names used by the servers, all computers need to used them if they only have the domain name and not the IP address.
QuoteI can remove something called a cache in Temp Int Files .. I am using windows XP.... under tools, clearing browsing data, empty the cache.
NOT sure if this is DNS cache or if I need to follow a different process.
It's the same idea but a different process, as that list of domain names and corresponding IP addresses can be used by any program that uses an IP network, so a home or office network without Internet access still needs one of those lists.
That list is the DNS cache, and you can empty it by using the command Gigas posted "ipconfig /flushdns". The other commands are for different, complementary things, to make sure the network configuration is cleared from old information that may be wrong.
I hope that helps. :)
ArMaP, Thanks again for such detailed information.
Still will need to try and absorb some of it.
I noted the Instructions Gigas Posted.. BUT I am not sure How I actually go about it...
Do I find something within my browser like when I look to clear Temp Int Files on IE.... I go into Tools, Internet Options... Delete Browsing history..
With Google Chrome when clearing temp Int Files, it was Tools, Clear Browsing data..
BUT with DNS Cache and "ipconfig /flushdns" I am not sure what I do :-\
Or do I go into Start , Run and enter "ipconfig /flushdns" or gigas's code ?
I did a quick search on google and I can see it seems to refer to different browsers, Chrome, Firefox, IE as well as what Windows Operating program one uses ie Windows XP in my case..
Does each browser need to be taken into account... or is there just one way to do all in one go ?
I could see a few different suggestions..not all make sense to me as they refer to some other lingo I am not Familiar with.
So I don't think its that straight forward unless one is familar with doing it before.. ???
Just found this as I write... it seems to re to different Op systems..
http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/ClearingBrowserCache#Windows XP, 2000, or Vista
1.Click the Start button.
2.On the Start menu, click Run....
?If you do not see the Run command in Vista, enter run in the Search bar.
3.Type the following command in the Run text box: ipconfig /flushdns
BUT It only refers to the "ipconfig /flushdns" not the full code Gigas Posted...
I note in your last post that you say the Code may ref to some other things..
When I just tried to enter ipconfig /flushdns ..... a box flashed up for a second as if to allow me to enter gigas's code... but the box disappeared... so I am not really sure what to do..or if I should be able to see something..or maybe it just did some clearing.. without the need to enter the full gigas code....
This shows to go into Start - All Programs - Accesories - Command Prompt.. then enter ipconfig /flushdns
that gave a message saying / ref to DNS cache Flushed ! Hopefully this is it !
https://www.whatsmydns.net/flush-dns.html#windows-98-nt-2000-xp
QuoteYou can clear the DNS cache by executing the "ipconfig /flushdns" like Gigas posted.
, , , well this sure has been an interesting read, , , ;)
Quote from: robomont on January 21, 2014, 01:19:27 AM
Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.
When I was at ATS I had zero ads :P A 'perk' for providing them royalty free content that they make their millions from... and not even a t-shirt :P
Quote from: astr0144 on January 24, 2014, 02:41:31 AM
This shows to go into Start - All Programs - Accesories - Command Prompt.. then enter ipconfig /flushdns
that gave a message saying / ref to DNS cache Flushed ! Hopefully this is it !
Yes, that's it. :)
Quote from: zorgon on January 24, 2014, 04:31:23 AM
When I was at ATS I had zero ads :P A 'perk' for providing them royalty free content that they make their millions from... and not even a t-shirt :P
I never had that "perk", I have always seen the ads. :(
Many thanks for your assistance and Guidance ArMaP...
Hopefully got there in the end.
After doing it however so far not noticed if it has made any difference in the way my computer runs as yet.. It still seems to have periods of severe slow down or will not allow one to click on and open pages without either no action occurring , like it Freezes up...or it takes a long time for an action to occur...
Not sure if I need to place Gigas's Code in the command Prompt also... if that may help...
I some times also get a virtual memory message pop up...I think it was...
Not sure why when it has little on the harddrive as yet..
Unless its when I open too many pages, but even then when I close some down it still does not perform like it should.
May have to run MSEs...
Do you also have a Free anti Spyware/malware program that you recommend or should MSE also take care of that ?
Quote from: ArMaP on January 24, 2014, 09:24:07 AM
Yes, that's it. :)
Speaking of Ad Trackers from ATS, here is what you get when you first block all trackers, and then next, allow ATS free rain.
Blocking all Ad Trackers from ATS:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/837/2evj.png) (https://imageshack.com/i/n92evjp)
Allow ATS to do what it wants:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/13/jfmv.png) (https://imageshack.com/i/0djfmvp)
So, as you can see, the 6 original Trackers call on other trackers until you have 32 total trackers. If your machine is low-end it will slow down dramatically through throttling of the bandwidth.
Gold for that starwarp.
Plus a big hug.
Quote from: starwarp2000 on January 25, 2014, 01:39:29 PM
So, as you can see, the 6 original Trackers call on other trackers until you have 32 total trackers. If your machine is low-end it will slow down dramatically through throttling of the bandwidth.
I see "only" 17 on ATS. And one on Pegasus.
But what I have trying to say (or I have been saying but have not been understood) is that it's not ATS or Pegasus that are responsible for what happens with those trackers, they are only responsible for allowing the initial trackers on their pages.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 25, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
I see "only" 17 on ATS. And one on Pegasus.
But what I have trying to say (or I have been saying but have not been understood) is that it's not ATS or Pegasus that are responsible for what happens with those trackers, they are only responsible for allowing the initial trackers on their pages.
I got 32 on ATS (Difference is that you are a moderator) and 2 on Pegasus (Amazon and Revolver Maps).
I agree with you totally on the fact that ATS only has the 6 initial trackers, and the 3rd parties are the ones who spawn the other 26.
I might ask you, what is your opinion on ATS knowing that these other companies use these trackers?
Do you feel that they should have some responsibility, or not?
Thanks, ArMaP :)
Quote from: starwarp2000 on January 25, 2014, 04:46:26 PM
I got 32 on ATS (Difference is that you are a moderator) and 2 on Pegasus (Amazon and Revolver Maps).
No, the difference is not that I am a moderator, I see the same number when logged out.
QuoteI might ask you, what is your opinion on ATS knowing that these other companies use these trackers?
I don't know if they know that those companies use those trackers, as the trackers you see are not the same trackers I see. Initially I see only 3, DoubleClick, Google Analytics and Gorilla Nation, regardless of being logged in or not.
QuoteDo you feel that they should have some responsibility, or not?
I do, and I think that's why they say that the members should contact them whenever some ad misbehaves.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 25, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
I do, and I think that's why they say that the members should contact them whenever some ad misbehaves.
problem with that when there are so many ads is that no one has the time LOL
Quote from: ArMaP on January 25, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
But what I have trying to say (or I have been saying but have not been understood) is that it's not ATS or Pegasus that are responsible for what happens with those trackers, they are only responsible for allowing the initial trackers on their pages.
Not true... when I added the Amazon link I had a CHOICE of which style of ad to use. The affiliate link is the least obtrusive and costs the viewer nothing to use it, but gives us a small kick back that is better than a click ad... And the money comes from Amazon not the viewer
Unlike the partial pennies you get from annoying tracker click ads, affiliate links are real cash Amazon starts each month at 4.5% with a max of 6.5% (resets monthly) based on qualifying sales
Since most of the traffic is to the website not the forum, affiliate links need to be on the website. I have an affiliate with ThinkGeek too that I have yet to set up
And thats the difference between class and trash.
Ats knows what they are doing and doesnt care.otherwise it would have been changed years ago.
Zorgon is a responsible site owner and thats why he gets my deepest respect.and why i try to remember to click on his add when i shop amazon.which is usually about once a month.
Quote from: zorgon on January 25, 2014, 07:51:16 PM
Not true...
Not true? Are you responsible for what Amazon does with the link to it's servers? ???
Quote from: robomont on January 25, 2014, 08:55:20 PM
And thats the difference between class and trash.
Ats knows what they are doing and doesnt care.otherwise it would have been changed years ago.
It was changed years ago, it used to be worse. ;D
Quote from: ArMaP on January 25, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
It was changed years ago, it used to be worse. ;D
something i can agree with you about,armap.
Now ats is just more refined in its "information acquisition and control" attempts. :P
Lmao.norval.