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Title: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: rdunk on January 18, 2014, 11:39:52 PM
Another current news piece about the notable inactivity of the Sun, this one from BBC. Of course, much scientific thinking - which means guessing when truth is not known - is being applied to the whys and wherefores of historical related experience. Still, a general confirmation that something strangely different to us is going on with our Sun.

17 January 2014 Last updated at 05:57 GMT

Scientists are saying that the Sun is in a phase of "solar lull" - meaning that it has fallen asleep - and it is baffling them.

History suggests that periods of unusual "solar lull" coincide with bitterly cold winters.

Rebecca Morelle reports for BBC Newsnight on the effect this inactivity could have on our current climate, and what the implications might be for global warming.

(this video will direct you to a better sound quality vid, which does play, but I could not make the alternate link work for this posting)


                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw75-7QC1cA

Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: astr0144 on January 18, 2014, 11:47:33 PM
Seems another similar related possibility to our pre discussions on changes in solar activity or climate changes that may take us back into ice age like conditions... except I don't think that I have been aware of a sleepy sun like description as such !

Just alterations of the earth in relation to the distances of the sun (Various Cycles that vary over so many years) or Sunspot activity...

Not a Sun seeming almost dormant !
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on January 19, 2014, 05:31:34 AM
QuoteStill, a general confirmation that something strangely different to us is going on with our Sun.

Just as well, if new experiences stopped... perhaps Scientist may fall asleep... LOL.

QuoteScientists are saying that the Sun is in a phase of "solar lull" - meaning that it has fallen asleep - and it is baffling them.

Scientists are always baffled... Just as well... we don't want to run out of learning... LOL.

More interesting things to see over the next 1,000 years of the 7,000 year generation...   ;)
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: starwarp2000 on January 19, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
Yes very interesting isn't it rdunk.
At a time when the Sun should be a Solar Maximum, it is entering a Maunder Minimum and the Solar processes have shutdown.
From the lips of a Solar Physicist that i know: "It rips apart everything we know about the Sun".

In other words, the Sun isn't a big ball of gas undergoing a nuclear fission reaction at all!
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: micjer on January 19, 2014, 02:26:09 PM
Interesting video.

What I took out of it was that the Jet Stream will be affected and cause Northern Europe to be colder than normal.

Well I guess I live in Northern Europe, (actually N America) because the Jet Stream is bringing us an old fashioned winter this year.  Perhaps it will soon readjust over N Europe.  No offense but I hope so.  LOL
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: The Seeker on January 19, 2014, 02:36:49 PM
The ice cores that Z posted keep coming to mind; according to that record of climatic events we are over due for an ice age...

the sun taking a nap is interesting and makes one ponder just have fragile and easy shifted the weather patterns are...


seeker
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: rdunk on January 19, 2014, 06:43:46 PM
Yes to all!! From several different reports over the past year, it sees pretty much agreed that our Sun is in unknown territory as far as our recent science is concerned. After seeing/hearing what these and others are saying about the Sun, it is pretty clear that we know about the Sun, but we really don't know it at all. The scientific forecasting of the scheduled performance of the Sun is beginning to take on much similarity to the well known Farmer's Almanac forecasting of the weather - it is all about past performance, with no real basis of current fact.

I certainly am not a student of the Sun. But, I am very interested in the facts of its present state, which are being described as being very different from our known experience of the Sun. Yes, the fact that the Sun, in essence, has "gone to sleep" when it should be "yelling at us" is pretty strange.

And, another news fact we have discussed in a separate OP is the current "pole changing" status of the Sun. The Sun's changing of its poles is a known happening, and our science knows how it happens - one of the poles reverses its polarity, and a relatively short time later the other pole reverses, and all is back to norm. The "pole reversal" marks the mid-point of the solar maximum. Well, in the current instance, the Sun's north pole changed sometime before August of 2013, with some reports saying it started a year early in 2012. Now, just in late December, Nasa has announced the "Sun has flipped upside down, with its north and south poles reversed". So, this "known action" of the Sun is very different too, during this cycle.

http://www.discovery-zone.com/suns-magnetic-field-reversed-polarity-will-happen-now/
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on January 19, 2014, 08:45:01 PM
QuoteFrom the lips of a Solar Physicist that i know: "It rips apart everything we know about the Sun".

I guess the human Species is NOT as knowledgeable as we would like to think we are..   :-[

The more we learn, (Discover) the bigger the surprises...

Imagine if you can, what will come to be known in 1,000 years from now ?

Beyond human comprehension no doubt...   :)
Title: Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: zorgon on January 19, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: rdunk on January 18, 2014, 11:39:52 PM
History suggests that periods of unusual "solar lull" coincide with bitterly cold winters.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Antarctica/415k-year-temp-graph.jpg)


Get warm boots :D
Title: Unusual Sun Dog phenomenon Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: astr0144 on January 21, 2014, 03:48:23 AM
'Sun Dog' Viewed From Train in Moscow

15 hours ago, Storyful
An atmospheric phenomenon known as a 'Sun Dog' was visible in Moscow, Russia on January 19. The halo effect from the sun was filmed by Valera Yangurazov from a metro train in temperatures of minus 20 degree Celsius. The phenomenon occurs when light is refracted through ice crystals in the atmosphere. Credit: Valera Yangurazov

http://uk.screen.yahoo.com/video/playlist/weird-weather/
Title: Re: Unusual Sun Dog phenomenon Re: Has the Sun gone to sleep?
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on January 25, 2014, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: astr0144 on January 21, 2014, 03:48:23 AM
'Sun Dog' Viewed From Train in Moscow

15 hours ago, Storyful
An atmospheric phenomenon known as a 'Sun Dog' was visible in Moscow, Russia on January 19. The halo effect from the sun was filmed by Valera Yangurazov from a metro train in temperatures of minus 20 degree Celsius. The phenomenon occurs when light is refracted through ice crystals in the atmosphere. Credit: Valera Yangurazov

http://uk.screen.yahoo.com/video/playlist/weird-weather/

Coloured Clouds (Colours of the Spectrum) during the day, are not uncommon and are often seen
before earthquakes and eruptions in NZ as they have also been reported in other countries too.