I was surprised to discover some of Our regular members are not aware of the issues with SMART meters, and was asked by One to do a thread on them. In looking into what is out there, I found a host of material on the globalist agenda and figured I would offer what I found.
First, the links I examined are:
http://stopthecrime.net/
http://smartmetersmurder.com/
http://refusesmartmeters.com/
It may seem that I am limited here, but the links to documents used to support the position that these meters are a hidden soft-kill mechanism are extensive and many come from government sources directly. Check the Source Doc link at the top of the page of the first two links for MANY additional support documents beyond what I offer here.
I will start with what I have found on the last listed site, a PDF of a letter from Karolinska Institutet about which Wikipedia says:
QuoteKarolinska Institutet is Sweden's third oldest medical school, after Uppsala University (founded in 1477) and Lund University (founded in 1666). Karolinska Institutet consistently ranks among the top universities in the world on a number of prestigious ranking tables. Karolinska is also ranked top 5 medical universities in Europe. According to the 2012 Times Higher Education World University Rankings, Karolinska Institutet is ranked 32nd worldwide, 6th in Europe directly behind Oxford university, Cambridge university and UCL, 1st in the Nordic region [2] and according to the 2011 Academic Ranking of World Universities, Karolinska Institute is ranked 11th in the world in the field of clinical medicine and pharmacology, 18th in life sciences and 3rd in pharmacy.[3]
The PDF, available here: http://refusesmartmeters.com/59738917-Dr-Johansson-s-letter-re-SmartGrid-Smart-Meter-dangers-to-CPUC-7-9-2011-1.pdf says:
QuoteWireless communication is now being implemented in our daily life in a very fast
way. At the same time, it is becoming more and more obvious that the exposure to
electromagnetic fields may result in highly unwanted health effects. This has been
demonstrated in a very large number of studies and includes cellular DNA-damage (which
may lead to an initiation of cancer as well as mutations that carry down generations),
disruptions and alterations of cellular functions like increases in intracellular stimulatory
pathways and calcium handling, disruption of tissue structures like the blood-brain barrier
(which may allow toxins to enter the brain), impact on vessel and immune functions, and
loss of fertility. It should be noted that we are not the only species at jeopardy, practically all
animals and plants may be at stake.
Because the effects are reproducibly observed and links to pathology can not be
excluded, the precautionary principle should be in force in the implementation of this new
technology within the society. Therefore, policy makers immediately should strictly control
exposure by defining biologically-based maximal exposure guidelines also taking into
account long-term, non-thermal effects, and including especially vulnerable groups, such as
the elderly, the ill, the genetically and/or immunologically challenged, children and fetuses,
and persons with the functional impairment electrohypersensitivity (which in Sweden is a
fully recognized functional impairment, and therefore receives an annual governmental
disability subsidy).
Prompted by all this, a group of international experts recently published a very
important paper, The Seletun Scientific Statement (2011). Among its points are:
1) Low-intensity (non-thermal) bioeffects and adverse health effects are
demonstrated at levels significantly below existing exposure standards.
2) ICNIRP/WHO and IEEE/FCC public safety limits are inadequate and obsolete
with respect to prolonged, low-intensity exposures.
3) New, biologically-based public exposure standards are urgently needed to protect
public health world-wide.
4) EMR exposures should be reduced now rather than waiting for proof of harm
before acting. It is not in the public interest to wait.
5) There is a need for mandatory pre-market assessments of emissions and risks
before deployment of new wireless technologies. There should be convincing evidence that
products do not cause health harm before marketing.
6) The use of telephone lines (land-lines) or fiber optic cables for SmartGrid type
energy conservation infrastructure is recommended. Utilities should choose options that do
not create new, community-wide exposures from wireless components of SmartGrid-type
projects. Future health risks from prolonged or repetitive wireless exposures of SmartGridtype
systems may be avoided by using fiber-optic cable. Energy conservation is endorsed but
not at the risk of exposing millions of families in their homes to a new, involuntary source of
wireless radiofrequency radiation, the effect of which on their health not yet known.
Many smart meters are close to beds, kitchens, playrooms, and similar
locations. These wireless systems are never off, and the exposure is not voluntary. The smart
meters are being forced on citizens everywhere. Based on this, the inauguration of smart
meters with grudging and involuntary exposure of millions to billions of human beings to
pulsed microwave radiation should immediately be prohibited until 'the red flag' can be
hauled down once and for all.
The recent determination of the World Health Organization (WHO) to include
radiofrequent radiation on the 2B list of carcinogens also applies to devices such as smart
meters. Already September 4, 2008, the European Parliament voted 522 to 16 to recommend
tighter safety standards for cell phones (Europ. Parl. resolution on the mid-term review of
the European Environment and Health Action Plan 2004-2010). In light of the growing body
of scientific evidence implicating cell phone use with brain tumors, the Parliament said, "The
limits on exposure to electromagnetic fields [EMFs] which have been set for the general
public are obsolete." The European Parliament "was greatly concerned at the Bioinitiative
international report concerning EMFs, which summarises over 1500 studies on that topic and
which points in its conclusions to the health risks posed by emissions from mobile-telephony
devices such as mobile telephones, UMTS, WiFi, WiMax and Bluetooth, and also DECT
landline telephones, and now it is again – and more firmly and seriously - repeated in the
form of WHO's recent cancer classification.
This by Olle Johansson, who is an "Assoc. Prof., The Experimental Dermatology Unit, Department of Neuroscience" at the Karolinska Institutet. Here is a video by Him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ3Qms7cTF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ3Qms7cTF4
and an interview in two parts about SMART Meters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXqud__K5PU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXqud__K5PU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR5ynWFDFGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR5ynWFDFGs
And here is Deborah Tavares showing documents which show that this is all in the plans of the "elite:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vLuGPV-lU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vLuGPV-lU
A link to the NASA document Deborah shows:
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf
And specifically about SMART Meters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U
The Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars document:
In PDF: http://bevolution.org/Silentwaragainsthumanity.pdf
And a YouTube reading:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_38tsQ4p0I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_38tsQ4p0I
And then there is the "hoax" We are seeing manifest today, the Report from Iron Mountain:
In PDF: http://www.stopthecrime.net/3TR-IRONMOUNTAIN_1_.pdf
And a YouTube presentation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2VQtGgAJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2VQtGgAJA
Now, You all may choose to brush this off as "fear mongering," but I suspect that is what They count on.
Sickening
Machinations
Afoot
Regarding
THEM
SMART meters
First step to Robot Takeover :P
Quote from: zorgon on February 03, 2014, 12:50:04 AM
SMART meters
First step to Robot Takeover :P
Or really, the first step in subjugating Humans who are not "elite" to robots. *I* would have robots SERVING all Humanity. (And BTW, somewhere here You commented about "robot controlled" equaling TAP - NOWHERE do I suggest the robots should CONTOL Humans. They are there to SERVE the Humans until and unless They become sentient/sapient. Then they become They and are EQUALS.)
Smart meter flaws to add £1.8bn to energy bills.
This is what is aimed at happening in the UK with regards to Smart meters...The Gov want to enforce them by 2020 ! >:(
I do not want them in my house ! >:( >:( >:(
Big energy suppliers urge review of the £12bn nationwide roll-out of smart meters
Consumers could be saddled with an extra £1.8bn on their energy bills because of flaws in the Government's plan to install "smart" gas and electricity meters in every home by 2020, suppliers have warned.
Three of the Big Six energy suppliers EDF Energy, ScottishPower and npower are now calling on ministers to review the £12bn nationwide roll-out of the meters, which automatically read gas and electricity usage and transmit the information back to suppliers.
Ministers claim consumers should eventually save money because they will be able to see their usage in real-time, encouraging them to use less energy. Meter reading and billing costs should also fall.
However, bills will rise over this decade to pay for the installation programme, while critics say the savings are uncertain. More than 1m homes already have the meters, but the nationwide roll-out is due to begin in earnest next autumn.
Talks are understood to be ongoing between suppliers and government after ministers pledged to do all they can to reduce energy bills.
EDF Energy argues that "a comprehensive review of the smart meter programme could save £1.8bn". By 2018, the peak year of installation, the cost on bills could be reduced from £45 to £30, it argues.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/smart-meter-flaws-add-1-223001638.html
Any time "flaws" in such products are announced along with the idea that We have to pay for them, I contemplate the likelihood that the "flaws" were deliberate in an effort to skim more from Us.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 03, 2014, 01:36:24 AM
They are there to SERVE the Humans until and unless They become sentient/sapient. Then they become They and are EQUALS.)
Interesting concept there Amy,
taking that to a logical next step it seems then
that there could come a time when the sentient robot
might think it should be equal in terms of humans
serving robots.
Quote from: burntheships on February 04, 2014, 04:00:30 AM
Interesting concept there Amy,
taking that to a logical next step it seems then
that there could come a time when the sentient robot
might think it should be equal in terms of humans
serving robots.
But WE are sentient/sapient. The robots We use are NOT. So, if the sentient/sapient robots can find Humans that are NOT sentient/sapient to serve Them (if any robots become sentient/sapient), I guess They are welcome. But I think They won't find any.
I have no problem serving "robots", would you like 5w oil, or something a bit lighter? And coffee for your human friend?
sighs, , ,,, just being a bit of a old fart smart ass, , ,
I have no problems with smart meters, , my living conditions here don't allow for them. Besides, I know enough about electronics to screw them up anyway, , heh heh heh heh heh, , , , , , , 8)
I think this is why it is said that we "service"
machines, rather than serve them.
"Do you read me Hal?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSIKBliboIo
,, , , , sorry, , and your point was?
Hello Hall?
;D
Quote from: burntheships on February 04, 2014, 04:42:07 AM
I think this is why it is said that we "service"
machines, rather than serve them.
"Do you read me Hal?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSIKBliboIo
I doubt We will get to Hal - IF We eliminate money.
But back to the topic...
I just had a smart meter put on my gas meter. I live in a remote area and the meter readers were too lazy to come to the house to read it so they frequently "estimated" my use by past recorded use. They were frequently off and I was billed incorrectly. Now I'm billed correctly and not only that, when it was placed on I had a little over $200 in credit due to recent overbilling.
Quote from: WarToad on February 04, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
I live in a remote area and the meter readers were too lazy to come to the house to read it so they frequently "estimated" my use by past recorded use.
In Portugal that "estimated use" is common, they started using it some 10 years or more ago, so they could reduce the personnel doing the readings, but we can phone a free number and tell them the reading. Every three months they do a real reading.
Just imagine if We had all this energy We swim in flowing in usable form to all of Us for free. This hold They have on Us would vanish.
In Australia, it is "Illegal" to disconnect from the Power Grid. I know a farmer who decided to get rid of all outside power sources and rely solely on his Solar, Wind and other generators.
He called the Power Company, and they said that they would not be coming to remove the remove the Electrical Poles entering his property and that they are the property of the Power Company.
So he got an Electrician to disconnect from the house, and roll up all the cable, placing it and all the uprooted poles outside his property.
Next day 150 armed Police and Army, arrived and arrested him and his family at gunpoint. They sold his property and evicted him, and gave him a 3 year suspended Jail sentence for "Malicious Destruction of Property".
So, here at least, you don't have any right's to start with.
Well. It's about time to take the power out of Their hands and give it to Each autonomously. Replace all systems of money.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2014, 05:09:47 AMReplace all systems of money.
And who will implement this new system?
Quote from: starwarp2000 on February 06, 2014, 03:27:28 AM
In Australia, it is "Illegal" to disconnect from the Power Grid.
Move to Nevada :D Here the Power company helps you do it :D They also installed a free pool pump timer and the water company put in a free sprinkler timer I like free and they even give rebates for installing solar
Your Farmer should have simply added an off switch and not cause a stink :D
Quote from: starwarp2000 on February 06, 2014, 03:27:28 AM
In Australia, it is "Illegal" to disconnect from the Power Grid. I know a farmer who decided to get rid of all outside power sources and rely solely on his Solar, Wind and other generators.
He called the Power Company, and they said that they would not be coming to remove the remove the Electrical Poles entering his property and that they are the property of the Power Company.
So he got an Electrician to disconnect from the house, and roll up all the cable, placing it and all the uprooted poles outside his property.
Next day 150 armed Police and Army, arrived and arrested him and his family at gunpoint. They sold his property and evicted him, and gave him a 3 year suspended Jail sentence for "Malicious Destruction of Property".
So, here at least, you don't have any right's to start with.
So what does this teach us? Maybe next time he should blow up a couple of the poles and say he was being invaded. If I didn't hear this story from you, I might not believe it. It is a OMG moment for sure. What do people do, just connect 1 light bulb to the meter and let it run so they get paid? I can see if there is an investment involved, meaning a few years ago the electric company paid for all the poles and have not received enough money back to pay for them. Then he would have to pay the ploes off. So do they consider it a breach of contract for the investment?
I think I will buy my own poles and have the meter at the street. Run my own wire to the house, would that work?
Deuem
Deuem
Quote from: starwarp2000 on February 06, 2014, 03:27:28 AM
In Australia, it is "Illegal" to disconnect from the Power Grid.
Apparently, what is illegal is to remove the poles and the cables, even if they were in his property.
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2014, 11:38:09 AM
And who will implement this new system?
We all will. Get the ideas to the tipping point and if 90+% of Us choose to go that route, I'm fairly certain We can accomplish it.
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2014, 11:45:15 AM
Your Farmer should have simply added an off switch and not cause a stink :D
My thoughts exactly :)
Quote from: deuem on February 06, 2014, 11:56:19 AM
I think I will buy my own poles and have the meter at the street. Run my own wire to the house, would that work?
The law states that it it is "Illegal to be a residence in a property with no connected power".
The solution?
Keep the power connected and don't use it. Maybe keep a pump running. Your bill will be low, so maybe that would still arouse suspicion.
Quote from: ArMaP on February 06, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
Apparently, what is illegal is to remove the poles and the cables, even if they were in his property.
Nope!
The law states: "It is illegal to reside in a residence that has no power, water or gas (from public facilities) connected."
You pay for the cost of the power poles in your initial installation. They still remain the property of the Power Company.
Other case was won, when a farmer removed the old power poles. The power company tried to seize his property but he won the case because the poles were in disuse for 2 years (An old power cable run into his property). The judge deemed that it was legal for a farmer to remove them and place them off his property.
In the case being discussed now, a different law is in affect.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
We all will. Get the ideas to the tipping point and if 90+% of Us choose to go that route, I'm fairly certain We can accomplish it.
Nope that is not an answer...
the IDEA alone is not enough to implement it. One has to first know that the MEANS are available.
And before you said 10% was all that was needed to reach that "tipping point" now your saying 90+%
The population of the USA as of February 6, 2014 is 317,619,000 That is only 4.45% of World Population. Add Australia for .33% and Canada for .49%
Don't know how many in Europe your reaching with TAP
Official population clock
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2014, 11:38:09 AM
And who will implement this new system?
We all will. Get the ideas to the tipping point and if 90+% of Us choose to go that route, I'm fairly certain We can accomplish it.
I am seeing pretty much the direct opposite of this happening in the
world right now. Look at Bitcoin, its now accepted so many places
I dont care to list; hundreds. Cryptocurrency, Iceland is going
live with one now, and there are several others.
Scripts are also very common.
This does not take into account stocks, which are created
every day - derivatives - instruments - carbon credits
are just taking off and with the implementation
of Agenda 21 into many U.S. cities expect more
of this.
I think the larger issue is The System. The entire System, and that is all of the Governments,
laws, rules, regulations, regularoty agencies, etc.
These are all multipling like bunnies, everyday
there are new laws, new agencies, new regulations.
Quote from: starwarp2000 on February 06, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Nope!
The law states: "It is illegal to reside in a residence that has no power, water or gas (from public facilities) connected."
You pay for the cost of the power poles in your initial installation. They still remain the property of the Power Company.
Other case was won, when a farmer removed the old power poles. The power company tried to seize his property but he won the case because the poles were in disuse for 2 years (An old power cable run into his property). The judge deemed that it was legal for a farmer to remove them and place them off his property.
In the case being discussed now, a different law is in affect.
Starwarp thats pretty odd as I knew someone about 25 odd years ago who was off grid. My Dad knows someone now who is off grid up the Wedderburn way with quite a smart off grid set-up he got off Alibaba. Must say though that in both case's they were not willing to pay the crazy fee for service hookup.
My dad has a grid connect solar panel set-up on his house in Bendigo which is a bit trickier refarding billing as he generate's more spark than what he use's, so he has to offset some usage on his utility account which is linked to another property.
If I got my arse into gear with my mythical Video's I would interview people who are off grid in Oz to get the real Low Down for people rather than heresay !
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2014, 07:12:47 PM
Nope that is not an answer...
the IDEA alone is not enough to implement it. One has to first know that the MEANS are available.
The ideas will spawn great activity in bringing the means out.
QuoteAnd before you said 10% was all that was needed to reach that "tipping point" now your saying 90+%
Do You grasp the tipping point? Guess not. Once about 10% have an idea it flows out to 90+% all on its own. 10% is the point at which it tips to the whole in awareness.
QuoteThe population of the USA as of February 6, 2014 is 317,619,000 That is only 4.45% of World Population. Add Australia for .33% and Canada for .49%
Don't know how many in Europe your reaching with TAP
Official population clock
I have had MANY from Europe discuss this with Me, and (without My even asking!) have had My work translated into Spanish. So I am reaching into South America as well. I have had People in the Middle East, too, discuss My work. About the only place I have NOT had discussions with is China (Deuem not withstanding).
Quote from: burntheships on February 06, 2014, 07:21:00 PM
We all will. Get the ideas to the tipping point and if 90+% of Us choose to go that route, I'm fairly certain We can accomplish it.
I am seeing pretty much the direct opposite of this happening in the
world right now. Look at Bitcoin, its now accepted so many places
I dont care to list; hundreds. Cryptocurrency, Iceland is going
live with one now, and there are several others.
Scripts are also very common.
This does not take into account stocks, which are created
every day - derivatives - instruments - carbon credits
are just taking off and with the implementation
of Agenda 21 into many U.S. cities expect more
of this.
I think the larger issue is The System.
The entire System, and that is all of the Governments,
laws, rules, regulations, regularoty agencies, etc.
These are all multipling like bunnies, everyday
there are new laws, new agencies, new regulations.
Oh, surely the present system is the problem and it continues, but if the ideas are there and reach the tipping point, We will reject all the present systems in favor of a BETTER one. One that ends poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery, and profiteering. And the power "elite."
Quote from: starwarp2000 on February 06, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
The law states: "It is illegal to reside in a residence that has no power, water or gas (from public facilities) connected."
I find that strange, could you show us where it says that in the law?
Thanks in advance. :)
QuoteI have had MANY from Europe discuss this with Me, and (without My even asking!) have had My work translated into Spanish. So I am reaching into South America as well. I have had People in the Middle East, too, discuss My work. About the only place I have NOT had discussions with is China (Deuem not withstanding).
As far as I know, everyone here likes money and they work very hard to get it. They just shoot the ones who steal it. If they ran our Congress there would be a lot of empty chairs. Corruption in the gub earns you a bullet for free. Tap you're dead. Say what you will but it works rather well. No riots, no rapes, no murders like Sandy Hook, lots of money around, happy people. What the heck happened once I left, did the plug get pulled out?
I also think there are a lot of people on FB and Twiter that would follow just about anything that got posted. Do you think that is a good example of real people? How are you doing in the real life section? Any papers printing TAP? Is it in text books yet? Can you judge sucess by FB or even here?
China loves money and all the benifits it gives them. For now I like it also! No robots, smart meters or silent weapons for me.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on February 07, 2014, 01:03:25 PM
As far as I know, everyone here likes money and they work very hard to get it. They just shoot the ones who steal it. If they ran our Congress there would be a lot of empty chairs. Corruption in the gub earns you a bullet for free. Tap you're dead. Say what you will but it works rather well. No riots, no rapes, no murders like Sandy Hook, lots of money around, happy people. What the heck happened once I left, did the plug get pulled out?
Um... Sandy Hook was a hoax, a psyop. Just sayin'. It may "work," after a fashion, as do all the systems We see. And sure, in a system where virtually all are thinking inside the money box, liking money will emerge - it is required for survival in cities and such. But it still creates classes, and People are doing things They would rather not just to get the money so They can survive, and with luck, enough to live well. Many are wage slaves, living in poverty and pumping out the trash Americans buy, to the enrichment of a few.
As for what has happened, the agenda has advanced. [shrug]
QuoteI also think there are a lot of people on FB and Twiter that would follow just about anything that got posted. Do you think that is a good example of real people? How are you doing in the real life section? Any papers printing TAP? Is it in text books yet? Can you judge sucess by FB or even here?
I am not on FB. I am not saying I speak to People from Europe and other places on twatter - though a few of the discussions have been there. I have emailed and made comments to blogs, YT's, and gotten conversations going around the globe. And ALL People I have contacted are "real" People. Each has a mind and can spread the ideas.
I have been given an editorship on State of the Globe - but need My computer back to get the login info. I may post about TAP all I want. That site is out of Europe... I have been printed on WakeUpWorld, Biblioteca Pléyades (in English AND Spanish), and a number of other sites. Text books are "elite" controlled. I will not hold My breath for THAT to happen any time soon.
QuoteChina loves money and all the benifits it gives them.
Like I said, as long as They're inside the box, that is all They know to like. And the benefits go to the lucky, relatively few. The rest struggle as slaves to survive.
QuoteFor now I like it also! No robots, smart meters or silent weapons for me.
That You know of....