A 1,500 mile Big Ship?
In an ancient document there is a place where it says that a city called "The Heavenly New Jerusalem" is coming to Earth. It is 1,500 miles high, wide, and deep.
Shades of SG Atlantis!
(http://www.earthsbanner.com/crater/forumimgs/usa2.jpg)
That is about the size of it if it lands !
Ok, where you getting this idea these huge numbers from? 1,500 miles cubed? Can't park it in my driveway. This thing square, pyramid, diamond or round? I wonder what kind of milage it gets. What's that about 1/5th the moons size. Hope it don't land in the ocean.
Might be shades of a few zeros being off or a long tail told to children. What ancient Doc?
I mean depending on how it works with gravity we could all be in real trouble.
D
It is found in the Bible, Revelation 21, which describes in much detail this New Jerusalem - 12,000 furlongs cubed, or about 1,500 miles cubed
Yes, that is preeeety big. For reference the volume of the Moon is about 5.35 billion cubic miles. The volume of "this big ship"/city is about 3.375 billion cubic miles. :)
Also for reference, The United States (48 states) has a total area of only 3.7 "million" square miles of surface area.
Rev 21 vs 14 says .... "And the wall of the city had twelve foundations"
Ok Norval where did you get that picture? 6 sections with a total of twelve walls. Nice find.
Interesting !
IF I recall...There have been some threads posted about Objects discovered out there in deep space, believed to be ET Craft estimated to be many thousands of miles long....
But I was not aware of any mention in the Bible about such things !
Yes fascinating Image Norval !
It would actually be easier to lift a big object into space than a small object.due to charge to mass ratio.plus most of the space in the craft could be filled with hydrogen to increase buoancy.then once in space .the hydrogen could be replaced with air.plus the large mass of the object could possibly create a gravity of its own.
As we Humans have began to build space stations ..and launch new connections & add on other parts in space...Chances are advanced ETs would have been doing this so long that they can continue to connect and build bigger and bigger stations out in space...
They may do as you suggest Robo...but also only need to lift so much..as they can connect out in space !..
According to this website & articles posted on PRC..by John Lear & others...
John Lear stated that he believes there to be a spacecraft orbiting in or near Saturns rings that measures 31,000 miles long and 2,400 miles wide!
I think I read somewhere over 100,000 miles long !
Also ..
Norman Bergrun's Ringmakers of Saturn..
http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/gigantic-motherships-near-saturn/
Yes , Deuem, It is quite well documented that that is a correct translation of that ancient writing called Revelations in chapter 21. I doubt that it would land on Earth but if it parks in orbit we may have some problems also. It does not say the actual shape of it.
Parking in orbit could increase or tides drastically and catastrophically depending on it's gravity attraction. Or, it could ease or tides to about half as much as today and we would have twice as many smaller tide changes per day.
Correct Rdunk, a very interesting passage of the Bible to say the least isn't it? There are more things in those ancient writings that I intend to share with everyone here, and I hope we can leave "religion" out of it all and just use what is written in those ancient documents about "heavenly beings" or ETs and UFOs.
It also mentions it's "foundations" and "gates" or doors, as Micjer points out. The image I used is from the TV show Stargate Atlantis.
The Bible as an Exopolitical Document from ET.
hmmmm, , I see many peeps have "gone quiet" when it comes to the potential of a 1,500 mile big "ship"?
Does it put the fear of the gods in yah? It shouldn't.
This would be an event that "all eyes will see".
There is more to this ship, , , , , how about some Bible thumper posting all the relevant information on it?
Because it looks like you are quoting the End of Days and all the good people will be taken.
We all went through so much 2012 here that another story hitting the plate is hard to believe without exacting proof. A ship 1/5 the size of the moon could be seen at a very long distance approaching the Earth. Let me know when it is spotted and you have a link. As thay say here, no link, no proof. lol
I guess if every few months someone says the Earth will end, sooner or later the last person will be right. I also often wonder how some people must feel if they are caught up in an earthquake/volcano going off right next to them. If they feel at that moment that the entire world is doing the same thing and it is the end of days. Without outside contact, how would they know?
Deuem
QuoteRevelations in chapter 21.
NO mention of any space ship here !
Ouchers there Deuem. Such "religious" ideas and notions are not at all being given here. End of days?!?! WTF, were just talkin about a very big "something" that is supposed to be coming to earth.
Spotted? Yer kidding , , , right? I think "they" would have very adequate cloaking technologies, , , , , and we will not see "it" till they want us to.
Sorry, , this is not at all about the end of the Earth.
TMT, , try to tell me that in a 5,000 word language, , , , LOL Not exactly a technological language at all, , ,
No ouches intended, Just wondering if that is how people take it. Everytime the revalations is quoted people think "end of days". It has been taugh to the world that a day will come and the good people will be taken away. My guess is that ship would be too big for just the good people, Maybe they would take the animals also.
So I am wondering what a ship of this mass would want with us. Invasion, take us for food or strip mine the planet. Say Hi! There seems to be more SciFi out there to backs up the bad stuff. It would make me think more than twice if they came here and said "We are your friends". "Want to go for a ride"?
How do we believe them? With so much tech they could do what ever they wanted to do with us. Grilled Deuem is not on the menu. Duck and hide?
Deuem
Dreams are free...
"Dreaming" doesn't make anything a Fact !
Best you do a little background check on some of us here 1st !
No Offence intended Just show me where it mentions a space ship in "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" in Chapter 21 Please .
Norval
For the Record The Revelation of Jesus Christ is
NOT a "Apocalyptic Writing",
as religious people and some academics would have you believe !
It is a
Revelation of "
The Man Child" or Son of MAN !
NOT some sort of Fortune telling script ! ::)
But do you know
WHAT "The Man Child" (Some refer to as "The SON of MAN) actually is ?
For the Record Here is "The Partition
MAP" of the
SOUL's "
Processing System",
Referred to as
The MAN Child in "
The Revelation of Jesus Christ" !
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0251.jpg)
You can find out all about this in my
Private forum
IF you get permission to access it ...
Nothing like a little Education at times .... :)
I can guarantee, you won't be bored ! ;D
Although Educated in Religion, I am Not a member of the Roman Church or any of its Breakaway Denominations.
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 04:17:24 AM
hmmmm, , I see many peeps have "gone quiet" when it comes to the potential of a 1,500 mile big "ship"?
Ring Makers of Saturn would be a better case study.
Quote from: Sinny on February 08, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Ring Makers of Saturn would be a better case study.
"Ring Makers of Saturn" is one of just two or three books I thought were so stupid I never finished reading them. :)
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on February 08, 2014, 05:32:29 AM
Norval
For the Record The Revelation of Jesus Christ is NOT a "Apocalyptic Writing",
as religious people and some academics would have you believe ! ............. I agree with you on it.
It is a Revelation of "The Man Child" or Son of MAN ! NOT some sort of Fortune telling script ! ::)
1.1
( Apocalyps mean revelation ) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to SHEW unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
1.2
Which had attested by the word of God and the testimony of Jesus-Christ of what he saw.
Absolutety there's no writing here, in my comprehension or interpratation it is like a witness,explanation......
Norval's ship picture on page 1 is very nice
Quote from: Sinny on February 08, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Ring Makers of Saturn would be a better case study.
And speaking of Saturn..
Have you folks ever looked into the subject of Saturn Worship?
I wonder if there is a connection......more to think about.
Quote from: micjer on February 08, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
And speaking of Saturn..
Have you folks ever looked into the subject of Saturn Worship?
I wonder if there is a connection......more to think about.
Yea, I'm all over it.
Folks over at David Icke are too.
@ArMap, maybe if you finished reading the book, you might have a different opinion.
Quote from: ArMaP on February 08, 2014, 01:32:03 PM
"Ring Makers of Saturn" is one of just two or three books I thought were so stupid I never finished reading them. :)
I'm with ArMaP on that one.
I see many are trying to get this into a "religious" horse pucky tossing concept, , sorry, but there is a whole lot more in those ancient writings to bolster the idea that this is a Big Ship and will be coming to Earth, probably sooner than some would want.
Reed those writings, it WILL answer all the ET ufo questions, only in a very non technical way. ;D
Quote from: Sinny on February 08, 2014, 02:48:17 PM
@ArMap, maybe if you finished reading the book, you might have a different opinion.
When I see that the whole idea of the book is based on photos that have an image area that is smaller than the whole frame and the fact that the image is cut when it reaches it's limits, I don't see any reason to spend more time reading it. :)
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
Reed those writings, it WILL answer all the ET ufo questions, only in a very non technical way. ;D
I like technical, it usually has some definitions attached to make things clear. :)
ArMaP
Unfortunately those ancient writings only had a 4,000 - 5,000 word vocabulary and were not very technical at the time it was written. Today a basic well educated person has over a 40,000 word vocabulary to "explain" things with. But, if you do want technical, try this thread.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6178.0
If an "object that is 1,500 miles high sat upon Earth it would sweep most of the satellites and the space station out of orbit. So, I do doubt that it will land upon Earth. It will most logically park in high orbit, and hopefully opposite our moon.
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
But, if you do want technical, try this thread.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6178.0
I suppose you don't really want technical answers to those questions, do you? :)
Also, technically, those are not even questions. ;)
The Writings are a "Parable" For the True Mind and Involve "The Metamorphosis of the Soul"
(History of The Soul)
We find in other Ancient writings such as "
THE BOOK of E'NOCH"
I-XXXVIWhich there are Quotes from, in biblical text such as in The Book of Jude N.T.
From "The Book of Enoch" which involves Technology beyond your understanding.
For example the record of
20 "Species" cross breeding with the human
Primate(The offspring of EVE) And the Processing System of The Soul where both your experiences
are played through an in.
Re. the "Parable" from "
The Book of E'NOCH"
I-XXXVI Quote;
Chapter 01
Quote01. The words of the blessing of E'NOCH,
where-with he blessed the elect and righteous'
who will be living in the day of tribulation,
when all the wicked and godless are to be removed.
02. And he took up his parable
and said-E'noch a righteous man, whose Eyes were Opened by GOD,
saw the Vision of THE HOLY ONE in the Heavens,
BUT WHAT is
GOD ?The only way to know, is to go
through the
LIFE of
GODwhich involves the Ancient
ZION Language (
NOT Hebrew or any other)
Quotewhich the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything,
and from them I understood as I saw,
but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come.
An intelligent discussion can Not take place, if the Writings are Not
1st understood.
You need to have
come from "
The New Jerusalem", if you are going to reveal
anything about the Writings the human Primate clings to in superstition and Ignorance.
From another Ancient Writing called "The Gospel of Thomas", in verse 51 Quote;
Quote51. His disciple said to Him, "When will the repose of the dead come about,
and when will the new world come?"
He said to them, "What you look forward to has already come,
but you do NOT recognise it."
But as this is Not my forum, I will leave you to it.
Hopefully you will do a little more research
1st. :)
Well ArMaP if you are not up to the discussion, ok ;D
But nobody seems to want to explore the potential of a 1,500 mile big something either. Now what does that say?
What's there to explore? Either it is there or it is not, and if it is, there's not much We can do about it. I might presume eventually We will know... And if it is not... Well. Heh. Nothing to explore.
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
Well ArMaP if you are not up to the discussion, ok ;D
Those questions (that are not even questions) do not interest me, specially because of their source and what the may mean for the future of the discussion. :)
QuoteBut nobody seems to want to explore the potential of a 1,500 mile big something either. Now what does that say?
I already used the free time I had to discuss things that do not exist, I don't have time to discuss more. ;D
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 04:17:24 AM
hmmmm, , I see many peeps have "gone quiet" when it comes to the potential of a 1,500 mile big "ship"?
Not really gone quiet...it's just that some other threads tend to dominate the 'recent post' list. I for one don't have the time to go back and review all the posts made in a day so best thing is if it is silent... bump it a few times We can always delete the 'bump' posts
QuoteDoes it put the fear of the gods in yah? It shouldn't.
No it simply is that it sounds the same as Nibiru and the Annuanki return which is also being pushed as exopolitical ET agenda and we all burnt out on that mess :P
I am with you on that I am certain an ET agenda would better explain the Gods than Gods :P It would also explain why "god" needed an Army to fight "Satan" and his army :P A true God would just wave his hand and POOF no more Satan's army
A huge ship would also explain the 'craft' that Undo says lifted off from Babylon, it would explain the big ship that John says towed the moon to its present location, it would explain the Ringmakers of Saturn and it would account for the rumors of the Black Knight satellite (that Arthur C Clarke called RAMA)
It would also explain NOAH's true ark :P THIS ONE
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Star_Lost/galaxy_ark.jpg)
Yes that really IS NOAH's Ark :D
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
But nobody seems to want to explore the potential of a 1,500 mile big something either. Now what does that say?
The Black knight Satellite is one of THE top search topics people use to find the Livingmoon :D Problem is there is little to be found on it. And quoting from the Bible will not help :D
Here is Rama incoming.... it is HUGE and as far as I am concerned it's been within our solar system for a long time... the first contact was just at the same time Sputnik was launched because THAT was the first time we had any reason to look 'out there'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FecDUfDKimc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FecDUfDKimc
Here is an animation of a flight within the huge ship. The concept of "Rendevous with Rama" is that the ship is EMPTY just waiting for us to board it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBIQCm54dfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBIQCm54dfY
The ship is a huge Torus, spinning to create artificial gravity, so the gravity would be away from center, thus the land appears as it does in the animation
Black Knight Satellite
1927 Encounter (again 1928 and in 1929)
Space Probe from Epsilon Boötes The signals were not deciphered until 1970
1954 Encounter
November 28, 1954 Signals from TWO 'satelites received Sputnik launched October 4, 1957
1960 Encounter
1960 the US detected an unknown object in polar orbit, a feat that neither they or the USSR had been able to accomplish. As if that wasn't enough, it apparently was several sizes larger than anything either country would have been able to get off the ground.
And then, the oddness began. HAM operators began to receive strange coded messages. One person in particular said he managed to decode one of the transmissions, and it corresponded to a star chart. A star chart which would have been plotted from earth 13,000 years ago, and focused on the Epsilon Bostes star system.
On September 3, 1960, seven months after the satellite was first detected by radar, a tracking camera at Grumman Aircraft Corporation's Long Island factory took a photograph of it. People on the ground had been occasionally seeing it for about two weeks at that point. Viewers would make it out as a red glowing object moving in an east-to-west orbit. Most satellites of the time, according to what little material I've been able to find on the black knight satellite, moved from west-to-east. It's speed was also about three times normal. A committee was formed to examine it, but nothing more was ever made public.
THIS was when it was first named "Black Knight Satellite"
Three years later, Gordon Cooper was launched into space for a 22 orbit mission. On his final orbit, he reported seeing a glowing green shape ahead of his capsule, and heading in his direction. It's said that the Muchea tracking station, in Australia, which Cooper reported this too was also able to pick it up on radar traveling in an east-to-west orbit. This event was reported by NBC, but reporters were forbidden to ask Cooper about the event on his landing.
"The Black Knight from Space" Long running ATS thread now directly linked the "Rendevous with Rama" Lots of links there to the 1917 and 1954 cases
There was an interesting member there that cause quite a stir... D4rk Kn1ght
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Blacknight/tikulin-rendezvous-with-rama_1.jpg)
Project Camelot Interview with Clifford Stone
ET Interpreter: Sgt. Clifford Stone
A video interview with Clifford Stone, Roswell, New Mexico, November 2006
Clipping of relevant portion
C: Well, I'll tell you this, I think that by 2016 that something better have happened. Because at 2016 I think that we're going to have to announce to the world that there's a probe that comes very close to the Earth every 15 or 20 years. And we've been calling it an asteroid. It's not an asteroid. But it actually in reality is an artificial probe. In other words, somebody else put it here. They have found us long time ago. The technology will probably be pretty much on a par to, say, Voyager. It'll be old antiquated technology by all their standards.
K: So what are you saying? Is this probe... do you know what race?
C: I'm saying we have already found it. Our paradigm says that it can't be an artificial craft of any sort, therefore we refuse to accept that and we call it an asteroid. I'm talking about BG1991. Roughly 30 meters in diameter, highly polished surface. Asteroids don't have a highly polished surface. It took corrective course changes to avoid collision with another asteroid. That don't happen. This one it did.
K: So where... what race is this from, from what planet? Do you know?
C: I don't know.
Extraterrestrial Monolith In Space
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Blacknight/monolith.jpg)
Apollo X Gets Glimpse Of An Extraterrestrial Monolith In Space
by Richard Boylan, Ph.D. 1998
drboylan@jps.net
Apollo X Gets Glimpse Of An Extraterrestrial Monolith In Space; Later A Secret Military Space Shuttle Retrieves the Space Beacon
The following information was disclosed to me by a reliable confidential informant, who previously worked on contract for the National Security Agency, and maintains connections within the Intelligence community. This informant, whom I shall call "Jesse", has over 40 years of notes from a very close relative, who served as CIA liaison to the National Security Council on UFO/ET matters. This information has been confirmed by a second source, Dr. Michael Wolf of the National Security Council's unacknowledged subcommittee, the MJ-12 Special Studies Group. I have talked with Dr. Wolf about the notes' author, Jesse's relative. Dr. Wolf said that that CIA official "was like an uncle to me."
The reports which follow are thus not "leaks", but rather based on planned releases of information. These releases are part of a public Acclimation Program, an official though unacknowledged U.S. Government policy of "processed release of information", as Dr. Wolf described it.
According to "Jesse", in 1969 the Apollo 10 astronauts Stafford, Cernan and Young were the first to film an extraterrestrial space beacon, dubbed The Monolith, somewhat like, but smaller than, the one in Arthur C. Clarke's book/movie "2001". They were not, however, the first astronauts to spot this ET beacon. The Monolith was first sighted by Russian cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space, in 1961. He was followed into space that same year by American astronaut Alan Shephard, who also sighted the beacon. Apollo 10 went to it, and filmed it from every angle. The Monolith acted like a communication beacon. Jesse said, "It sort of acts like the message received in the movie "Contact". It had a message on it, in addition to a map of the extraterrestrial civilization which placed it there], and how to get to them."
Quote from: Norval on February 08, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
Well ArMaP if you are not up to the discussion, ok ;D
But nobody seems to want to explore the potential of a 1,500 mile big something either. Now what does that say?
it says that the thread is way too open on the subject and there is not enough info for people to dig into. Matrix added info. You claim ancient writings but show none? Can you scan a few of these and place them here. Any info is better than a blanket statement.
It is as if there is this ship coming and if we don't believe your writings we are all doomed. Quite frankly I am not sure what you are trying to show us here. More doom porn or the Alien ship that is on its way to make my day.
And if no one wants to play we are insulted. I for one do not like that! Dig in and get more info for this subject. When threads die, they die on there own here. This one is headed that way because of the lack of information and research. Every day there is a potential of something happening. This thread is what I call a drop and run. Just enough info to get it started. We call it bait. Seems the fish are full on the other threads and not hungry to go off and research this topic because of all the 2012 doom porn we went through.
Deuem, asking if you can, beef up the skeleton of this thread. Now what does that say?
Black Knight Satellite
2004 Encounter ?
Alien Speech Found in NASA's Saturn Radio Signal
Cassini probe recorded this near Saturn... contact with the Ringmaker's ship?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGeWBiLVn8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGeWBiLVn8g
What we have collected so far that relates to the Black Knight possible cases is here
Black Knight Satellite (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/menu.html#BlackKnight)
Quote from: deuem on February 09, 2014, 03:56:55 AM
it says that the thread is way too open on the subject and there is not enough info for people to dig into. Matrix added info. You claim ancient writings but show none? Can you scan a few of these and place them here. Any info is better than a blanket statement.
Well I did find THIS and highlighted a few points from an 'Ancient Text" :D
The New Heaven and the New Earth.1
a Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth.
The former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.*
So this happens AFTER earth is destroyed... just like the NOAH's ARK I showed from the Starlost and the same idea as RAMA being a ship to save us after the earth is gone2
I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem,* coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.b
3
I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with the human race.c He will dwell with them and they will be his people* and God himself will always be with them [as their God].*
4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death or mourning, wailing or pain, [for] the old order has passed away."d
5
The one who sat on the throne* said, "Behold, I make all things new." Then he said, "Write these words down, for they are trustworthy and true."e
6
He said to me, "They are accomplished.* I [am] the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water.f
7
The victor* will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son.g
8
But as for cowards,* the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."h
The New Jerusalem.*
9
One of the seven angels who held the seven bowls filled with the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come here. I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb."*
10
He took me in spirit to a great, high mountain and
showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God.iThere you have the 'landing'11
It gleamed with the splendor of God. Its radiance was like that of a precious stone, like jasper, clear as crystal.j
12
It had a massive, high wall, with twelve gates where twelve angels were stationed and on which names were inscribed, [the names] of the twelve tribes of the Israelites.
13
There were three gates facing east, three north, three south, and three west.k
14
The wall of the city had twelve courses of stones as its foundation, on which were inscribed the twelve names of the twelve apostles* of the Lamb.l
15
* The one who spoke to me held a gold measuring rod to measure the city, its gates, and its wall.
16
The city was square, its length the same as [also] its width.
He measured the city with the rod and found it fifteen hundred miles* in length and width and height.
There is your 1500 miles - Note: Fifteen hundred miles: literally, twelve thousand stades, about 12,000 furlongs17
He also measured its wall: one hundred and forty-four cubits* according to the standard unit of measurement the angel used.
18
* The wall was constructed of jasper, while the city was pure gold, clear as glass.
19
The foundations of the city wall were decorated with every precious stone; the first course of stones was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald,m
20
the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh hyacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.
21
The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made from a single pearl; and the street of the city was of pure gold, transparent as glass.
22
* n I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God almighty and the Lamb.
23
* The city had no need of sun or moon to shine on it,o for the glory of God gave it light, and its lamp was the Lamb.
24
The nations will walk by its light,* and to it the kings of the earth will bring their treasure.p
25
During the day its gates will never be shut, and there will be no night there.
26
The treasure and wealth of the nations will be brought there,
Quote16
The city was square, its length the same as [also] its width. He measured the city with the rod and found it fifteen hundred miles* in length and width and height.
There is your 1500 miles - Note: Fifteen hundred miles: literally, twelve thousand stades, about 12,000 furlongs
To do this would take over a year with a stick. And I don't know how they would measure the height with a stick. It seems the mile was different to them. 1,500 miles would cross water all over the place. Then the guy with the stick would need a boat also. Not to mention the curvature of the earth. This thing would be sitting on the Earth like a see-saw rocking side to side. Sorry, can't imagine it landing and being measured. Just too big. Drop a zero and it becomes more understandable.
Deuem
Zero Dropped :D (ZPM Zero Point mudules)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3jN_kA8FV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3jN_kA8FV8
Thank you Zorgon and for the other information you added. I knew that "other" ships would be showing up. Yah think the King of the entire universe would be showing up without and "escort"? Besides the ships that had the war in our solar system and destroyed most habitable areas, including those deep under "ground" on other planets and (so called ) asteroids. Thanks also for posting the passages from that ancient document that are also relevant to this 1,500 mils big thing. My main computer took a dump on me and I am still programming this new one with all the data. :'(
Well Deuem, you have to remember that that was only a mind job on John about what he was seeing. Like mental telepathy, or implanting the mind with something, a vision. Like I said earlier, if it does land then it aint gonna be a pretty sight at all. So I personally doubt that it will actually land. Remember that it was wrote in a very old and very few words language, as I have said. :)
Hi Deuem,
QuoteMatrix added info. You claim ancient writings but show none? Can you scan a few of these and place them here. Any info is better than a blanket statement.
I have given many, many "References" already
IF one takes the time to read !
One reason for NOT presenting more, is because many such "writings" are
freely available on the net.
One only has to look them up.... and see what I am referring to.
If One is
NOT educated in this area one will not recognise anything on the subject !
I think I have supplied more
evidence than anyone here, regarding the Ancient knowledge
of what was once referred to as the Soul.
If you wish to take my place, and do it for me you are more than welcome.!
Many such writings can be found in any University Libraries,
IF they have a Theology, Philosophy,
or religious Studies semester !
I can't see any reason for
doubling up on Data which is
freely available on the net. unless bringing others
attention to such Historical records which I have done in the past !
I will leave the "spade work" for you others, as I have nothing at all to prove... nor do I have the need to.
I make freely available the work I have been involved with, and if others don't wish to make
use of it doesn't matter !
I have spent from 1997
Fulltime involvement in the Development of "Mind Interfaces", so if
it is of
NO interest, I can easily bring an
END to what I have brought here,
and make it available to
others, who will make use of it !
The Reason I don't fill my threads full of biblical "quotes" is because I only get Falsely
accused of being
a Religious person, which I certainly am
NOT !
YES my Post Secondary Education involved "Philosophy" and "Theology".
NOT taught through any church !
Which in no way makes me a religious person, or bible thumper re their own beliefs ...
When I mention such writings found in the "Gnostic Libraries"
for example, I get Falsely
accusedof being "Gnostic"
by bible thumpers.
I guess I am Damned if I do.... and Damned if I don't .... LOL.
You only have to look at
my "
Stats" to see the amount of Time, I put into uploading Posts
for you and others so you have the chance of making use of the knowledge.
That is if you wish to !
No One says you have to !
But on the subject of this forum.... there is
NO Mention of any Alien Craft Whatsoever
in "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" as such wild claims have been made !
To make such claims is Insulting
LIFE itself !
But others are free to do this if they Like !
If there is mention in Chapter 21 of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ", then put up the Evidence !
On the other hand !
You can find Parts of the "Processing System" (Soul) through Out China and in fact just about
any Country on Earth.
The Evidence is all over the world and right in our faces but most desire to be in denial I guess ?
It takes very little effort to find both the writings and Evidence in Architectural Décor
If you understand what you are Looking At !
You can find all this in "Government Buildings", "Public Buildings", "Palaces", "Opera Houses", "Mosques",
monasteries, Cathedrals Churches and other "religious Buildings", even In Banks and others.
There even hundreds if Not Thousands of Examples in some of these buildings presenting
the Processing System's Language
IF you look ?
How much more do you need ?
One is BLIND if they can't see all this !
I guess some walk around looking but NOT seeing !
No, this was for you,
QuoteMatrix added info.
That info boosted the empty thread and got others moving. It was a compliment to you.
Deuem
Quote from: Norval on February 09, 2014, 05:22:47 AM
I knew that "other" ships would be showing up. Yah think the King of the entire universe would be showing up without and "escort"?
(http://www.jantoo.com/cartoons/lowres/122/12261725_low.jpg)
Quote from: deuem on February 09, 2014, 04:19:48 AM
To do this would take over a year with a stick. And I don't know how they would measure the height with a stick. It seems the mile was different to them.
TIME was different for them too if we take Norval's ancient text seriously :D NOAH lived to be almost a thousand had kids at 600
Quote from: zorgon on February 09, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
TIME was different for them too if we take Norval's ancient text seriously :D NOAH lived to be almost a thousand had kids at 600
Or they were talking about Moon based years, equivalent to 28 days. :)
Just when I thought the alien ship idea was what was being referenced to in Revelations....Matrix says this is nonsense and we need to dig for the truth.
Geesh that is what I have been trying to do. Back to the drawing board.
I am new to this topic so I would appreciate a couple of bones.
I agree just because someone references the biblical text, it does not make them a bible thumper. No different than analyzing Nostradomous or other prophecies imo.
Quote from: micjer on February 09, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
Just when I thought the alien ship idea was what was being referenced to in Revelations....Matrix says this is nonsense and we need to dig for the truth.
That's a common problem in sites like this, everyone has their own truth. :)
No problem with this site..I enjoy reading the ideas put forth by matrix.I may
not understand, as being a bible believing Christian. However, I can see a
coralation between matrex' thoughts and the bible. Just using different
words to say the same thing.The bible is a condensed version of the human
experience from beginning to end. Such as , puting on a new body in place
of this corrupt body.Meeting the lord in the air.The city coming down from
heaven.In Job, I read of a meeting in heaven, with all the 'sons of god(angels)
being there, representing all the 'worlds' in the universe, and satan was there,
representing the earth.To me, these are the same'sons of God'(angels) who
saw the daughters of men that they were fair(compatable)and married all that
they chose.The offspring being men of renoun..Yes, we all have our own ideas,
but it is interresting what others may think, even if it is different and we do not
understand..I find I do not understand much of what I know, which is very
little. rubicon