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Title: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 08, 2014, 08:01:13 PM
4 Ancient Questions From ET

When you can answer just one of these questions then you will begin to be able to understand about ETs.

1. Weigh (or measure) for me fire?
2. Measure a blast of wind?
3. Show me a picture of a voice?
4. Recall for me a day that has gone by?

These questions are from an ancient writing and are over 2,300 years old.
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Amaterasu on February 08, 2014, 08:51:49 PM
Where are the questions from?
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 08, 2014, 11:47:58 PM
Where do you think they come from?

Most people can answer them today, even though they are based on understanding modern technology, as most of us do in todays world.
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 09, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
awwww come on, , give it a try at least, for us today these questions are not that hard, are they?  ;D

From a book of the Bible, called 2nd Esdras, but may be called by other names depending on which Bible and language and country you are reading it in.

It isn't in most Americans Bibles, , , , but in most other country's Bibles.  ::)
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Amaterasu on February 09, 2014, 06:01:46 AM
Well, We surely can measure the energy units in fire...and wind...  We can show the wave forms in a voice...  And can record events from any day - maybe not ALL events on said day, but the "important" ones.

Would love to see a scan of one of those fer'n bibles.
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on February 09, 2014, 06:15:26 AM
QuoteThese questions are from an ancient writing and are over 2,300 years old.

Quote1. Weigh (or measure) for me fire?
2. Measure a blast of wind?
3. Show me a picture of a voice?
4. Recall for me a day that has gone by?

WHERE ?

Please Quote the "Verses" in Context of the writings...

!'m Interested !
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: robomont on February 09, 2014, 07:51:23 AM
Actually i think its the apocrypha.a catholic book with books that were left out of the king james.got a copy here at my house.
Very simlar questions were asked of job.
The questions were asked to show authority to the ignorant.to act like a know it all.around inferior people.
In this day and time we recognize such talents as megalomania.

I know, because i am.lol.at least thats what the state of texas says.
I personally believe ive earned the right to be .
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: zorgon on February 09, 2014, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: Norval on February 09, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
awwww come on, , give it a try at least, for us today these questions are not that hard, are they?  ;D

No they are easy  but I won't give away the answers :D
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: micjer on February 09, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
1.  BTU's

2.  KM/H

3.  Wavelength

4.  picture/video


Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 10, 2014, 12:17:44 AM
Amaterasu gets the GOLD.

Yes, TODAY we can answer not just one, but all 4 of those questions.
But, we couldn't answer a one when they were first asked 2,300 years ago. We had to learn about technologies first. So, now we can understand about "the most high". Or, in other words off worlders.

Those questions can be found in the, so called, Apocryphal books of the King James Bible prior to the 1850's. The Catholic Bibles never contained these writings. They do however have several other books that the Protestant versions do not.

And the kicker is this. If you do read 2nd Esdras chapter 4 you will find a few other questions that still cannot be answered.   8)
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on February 10, 2014, 01:35:38 AM
Identify Verses please in their Context with the writings ...

Interested !
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: zorgon on February 10, 2014, 02:08:24 AM
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on February 10, 2014, 01:35:38 AM
Identify Verses please in their Context with the writings ...
Interested !

Apocrypha: 2 Esdras Chapter 4
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/es2.htm
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on February 10, 2014, 06:12:53 AM
What is so special about Chapter 4 ?

The whole book is about the "Fire".

It starts in the very 1st chapter ! Quote;
]quote][b[14[/b] I gave you light in a pillar of fire, and great wonders have I done among you;
yet have ye forgotten me, saith the Lord.[/quote]

And finishes in Chapter 15 verse 78.. Quote;
Quote78. It is left undressed, and is cast into the fire to be consumed therewith.

But do others Know what is being referred to (as "The pillar of Fire")  instead of Guessing ?
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Amaterasu on February 10, 2014, 06:27:15 AM
I can only guess, Matrix.  Do explain.
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on February 10, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
Here is a couple of verses relating to both the Fire and the Water found in an ancient writing called ..

From "The Dialogue of The Savior" ... Quote;

Quote133.  He said, "What is this that I hold in My hand?"

He said, "It is a stone."

He said to them, "He Who Sustains the earth is He Who Sustains The Heaven.

When a Word comes forth from The Greatness,
It will go to Him Who Sustains The Heaven and the earth.

For the earth does NOT move;

if it moved, it would fall, but it does NOT fall
in order that The First Word might not be Annulled,

Namely 'He is The One Who Established The World,
and He Dwelt in It, and He received incense from It.'

For everything that does NOT move I will bring to you,
all ye sons of men, for you are from That Place.

"As for those who speak out of joy and Truth, you are in their heart.

And if He comes from The Body of The Father through men,
and they do []u]NOT[/u] receive Him,

He turns again to His Place.

He who knows not The Works of Perfection knows Nothing.

If one does NOT stand in the darkness, he will NOT be able to see  The LIGHT.

134.   If one does NOT understand how The Fire came to be, he will burn in It,

because he does NOT know his Root.

If one does NOT First Understand The Water, he does NOT know anything.

For what is the use for him to receive baptism in it?

If one does NOT understand how The Wind that blows came to be,
he will run from It.

If one does NOT understand how the body that he wears came to be,
he will perish with It.

And he who does NOT know The SON, how will he know The FATHER ?

And he who will NOT know the Root of All things, All things are hidden from him.

He who will NOT know the root of wickedness is NOT a stranger to it.

He who will NOT understand how he came will NOT understand
how he will go,

and is NOT a stranger to this world which will perish and which will be Humbled."



The following does NOT in any way involve Guess Work or human Belief !

It is 1st Hand Knowledge of those things OUTSIDE this little Universe !

If One closes the Eyes and observes You can SEE "The Waters of the Deep"

If you need verification of this re. the Deep I can show you in the 1st Book of Moses called Genesis
in the 1st few Verses of Genesis.

Most who read these 1st few verses Don't see what is written. !

They assume, based on their preconceived Ideas or Beliefs !

The FIRE is a Component of the Soul, which exist in "The Pillar of Fire" !

Hence the "FIRE" as mentioned in the "Writings" !

The RED in this Drawing is The RED Horse (The WORD "Horse" meaning "Large & Round"
like the word "Horse" is used in reference to; A "HORSE" Chestnut !)

The RED is also known as, "The FIRE" !

This is often described as "The Bride" ! While others refer to as "Sophia", and Others "The Mother of GOD".

But WHAT this Drawing Truly is, is "The Partition MAP" of Your Soul !

This Daring is 100% accurate !


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images2/Mother.jpg)




And Here showing The "Core Processor" in the Centre is referred to as "The Son of Man" or "The MAN Child" !


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images2/MotherMANChild.jpg)



And an Enlarged Drawing of The "Core Processor" of your Soul known as "The MAN Child" or "The SON of MAN".


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0251.jpg)



Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 10, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
Well, some may find it interesting that these highly technical questions were even considered to be from mankind, , , ,

Considering that the book most call the Bible is actually the very message from ET that many are looking for, these questions, and those in that chapter that cant yet be answered, are just a small sample of it's proof that it was not of man. Only wrote up by man, like a secretary.  ;D
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: zorgon on February 10, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: Norval on February 10, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
Well, some may find it interesting that these highly technical questions were even considered to be from mankind, , , ,

Well THIS device was also considered to be from mankind, yet there is no evidence of other examples nor is there any trace of inventions leading up to this device

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/NAMA_Machine_d'Anticyth%C3%A8re_1.jpg)

So it was either dropped by an ET  OR is a remnant of a very very old past civilization. Considering that the machine shows the planetary orbits perfectly... well  if it was made by mankind, that means we lost a LOT of knowledge

QuoteConsidering that the book most call the Bible is actually the very message from ET that many are looking for, these questions, and those in that chapter that cant yet be answered, are just a small sample of it's proof that it was not of man. Only wrote up by man, like a secretary.  ;D

In my opinion the book you refer to is just a collection of works from more ancient times, kinda loosely jumbled together in an attempt to make sense.  The story of the sun stopping in the heavens makes sense when you take it in context with the war of the planets in the old Sumerian stories. One day I will put together my 'theory of everything' :D maybe over the summer once my finances settle down.

I consider the Bible and other ancient religious texts as a collection of stories of things that happened LONG before they were collected and written down  and as such contain a lot of 'fluff' and misinterpretations... though based on some real events.

The Bible has so many "Lo and Beholds" in it that sounds like a Medieval travelling horse and pony show :P

ALL the Gods of Old... in the Bible, in the Sumerian stories, in the Vedic Scriptures, The Roman and Greek Gods...  ALL of those stories tell us the Gods are NOT OF THIS EARTH  so in a very true sense all the gods of lore ARE true ET no matter which way you look at it.

A Demon... A Troll... a Grey...   Where is the difference? Only in the name given the entity by those of a certain time frame

A Cherubim...

Today most people see THIS as a Cherubim

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ94nwEnVoPnmDS14ulbYSFb4ytkwFpcD6vv4kQLXksQyjO9-YZ)

But in the days of Solomon THIS was a Cherubim

(http://www.biblesearchers.com/temples/jeremiah7_files/image001.jpg)

The Tibetans will tell you that our civilization is the FIFTH on this planet...  each previous civilization has been almost totally erased... but stories survive and from time to time artifacts and ooparts come to the surface.

Sadly modern archaeologists, more focused on proving their religious biased view of how they think things should be... tend to hide such artifacts that could upset their apple cart.

The story of Shambhala (changed to Shangri La by Americans) is actually a story of a hidden city of giants that is partially exposed in a glacier high in the Himalayan mountains where the Monks collect ancient herbs. The City is exposed because of thermal vents, which also create steam so from above the area is covered in thick clouds.

So to me that book your promoting is third hand info at best... a glimpse into the past needing to be deciphered perhaps, but certainly NOT "The Word"

Also the fact that the secton you are using for your ET querstions has been REMOVED by the very religion whose book it is, shows that, just like the change in Cherubim... someone doesn't want you looking at any other possible version of 'the truth'

::)

Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on February 10, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
The Images behind the Wings was the "Expression" re the Cherubim !

A Cherubim had 6 "Wings"...

The WORD "Wing"

Whose Place is either Side of Centre.

A birds "Wing" is ONLY one Type of Wing !

We have the "Wing" of a Political Party and the "Wing" of a Building or Structure of any Type !


The 6 Points of the Cherubim is "The 6 Pointed Star" used in the "Processing System" of The Soul.

These "6 Pointed Star" were Components of "The HOUSE of DAVID" (NOT David) which involved the Old Soul before The Metamorphosis of the Soul took place.


This is the Construct of The Cherubim but without "The Ring of 12" (Apostles)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0079.jpg)



The difference between the Seraphim and the Cherubim is Size as well as what the do
in the "Processing System" of the Soul !


The "Wings" !

From  "The Book of The Prophet Isaiah" Chapter 6 verse 2  Quote;

QuoteAbove it stood the Seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face,
and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

The word Fly doesn't mean as a bird in this text but means "To go Swiftly" which is a Poor Translation
due to the lack of Knowledge by the Translator.

Instead of the WORD "Fly" being used, the words outstretched would have been MORE Accurate !

I say this because I have brought this knowledge in, from "Outside" this little Universe re. the Soul !

The Instructions were in the "Wings" of the Cherubim, but since the Coming of The MAN Child
The MAN Child was given 12 Apostles which are a Octagonal Ring of 12 Octagons (The Tool Box)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0078.jpg)



From then on the "Instructions" no longer appeared in the "Wings" as this is Were the Angels (Cherubim)
were Corrupted giving the 666 Geometric Algorithm. ("Double Logic") in the Human Genome
and the 20 Alien Species who interbred with the human Race the offspring of A'DAM & EVE.

Please NOTE;  I write A'DAM & EVE in this way because these Words are Addresses within the "Processing System"
of Your Soul !

If written in Lowercase they give the wrong "addresses" !

The Names were NOT personal, but the Program given to this particular strain of Species
which there were many, many others as well before A'DAM. (in the Program ("Story") Introduction)


Today the "Instructions" appear in the 12 Octagons, (I/O Ports) which there are 2 Sets of 12 which
give a total of 24 Octagons in the Octagonal Ring of Octagons !

These were known as the 24 Elders ! (the Older or Previous Ones)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0082.jpg)



Whose "Thrones" look like this in the Garden of EDEN (In Paradise)...

The WORD EDEN is also an Address in the Processing System as are All the "Titles" in these Ancient Writings .


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/48matrix_traveller/images/0073.jpg)



Many of these Ancient Cities and peoples on Earth were named after Cities ("Organised Structures")
within the "Processing System" of Your Soul !
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on February 10, 2014, 11:20:15 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/NAMA_Machine_d'Anticyth%C3%A8re_1.jpg)

QuoteSo it was either dropped by an ET  OR is a remnant of a very very old past civilization.

Considering that the machine shows the planetary orbits perfectly... well  if it was made by mankind,
that means we lost a LOT of knowledge

Indeed Z you are right on the nail with this One !   :)
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 11, 2014, 04:51:39 AM
Quote from: zorgon on February 10, 2014, 07:03:14 PM

So it was either dropped by an ET  OR is a remnant of a very very old past civilization. Considering that the machine shows the planetary orbits perfectly... well  if it was made by mankind, that means we lost a LOT of knowledge

In my opinion the book you refer to is just a collection of works from more ancient times, kinda loosely jumbled together in an attempt to make sense.  The story of the sun stopping in the heavens makes sense when you take it in context with the war of the planets in the old Sumerian stories. One day I will put together my 'theory of everything' :D maybe over the summer once my finances settle down.

I consider the Bible and other ancient religious texts as a collection of stories of things that happened LONG before they were collected and written down  and as such contain a lot of 'fluff' and misinterpretations... though based on some real events.

The Bible has so many "Lo and Beholds" in it that sounds like a Medieval travelling horse and pony show :P

ALL the Gods of Old... in the Bible, in the Sumerian stories, in the Vedic Scriptures, The Roman and Greek Gods...  ALL of those stories tell us the Gods are NOT OF THIS EARTH  so in a very true sense all the gods of lore ARE true ET no matter which way you look at it.

A Demon... A Troll... a Grey...   Where is the difference? Only in the name given the entity by those of a certain time frame


The Tibetans will tell you that our civilization is the FIFTH on this planet...  each previous civilization has been almost totally erased... but stories survive and from time to time artifacts and ooparts come to the surface.

Sadly modern archaeologists, more focused on proving their religious biased view of how they think things should be... tend to hide such artifacts that could upset their apple cart.

The story of Shambhala (changed to Shangri La by Americans) is actually a story of a hidden city of giants that is partially exposed in a glacier high in the Himalayan mountains where the Monks collect ancient herbs. The City is exposed because of thermal vents, which also create steam so from above the area is covered in thick clouds.

So to me that book your promoting is third hand info at best... a glimpse into the past needing to be deciphered perhaps, but certainly NOT "The Word"

Also the fact that the secton you are using for your ET querstions has been REMOVED by the very religion whose book it is, shows that, just like the change in Cherubim... someone doesn't want you looking at any other possible version of 'the truth'

::)


Yes, there was a very advanced civilization on earth, before the flood, that was destroyed. A few artifacts did survive along with the old stories and evidence of ancient atomic war on earth.  :)

This sounds like you had access to the report Gale and I sent NASA, at their request, back in 2002 on this very concept concerning who these ETs are. Both the Good ETs up there, and the Bad ETs that were thrown down to the earth.  8)

How strange is it that just as mankind gets into the "technological age" those writings are removed from all new publications of Protestant Bibles in the USA by a group of all the mainstream Protestant religions. Circa 1850. What were they so afraid of some finding out? Just exactly what we have found out. That the Power People and governments have been "dancing with the devil" and his minions.  :P

As long as the religitards keep blathering on about their various religions, the deception and misdirection just gets deeper and muddier. With more than 40 years of research into those ancient writings, and many others, I have learned to trust what the writings say, and not what the religitards say.   ::)
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: zorgon on February 11, 2014, 05:46:29 AM
There was one case in Texas

Dino footprints beside man footprints.

While the discovery was being discussed at a lecture, a couple archaeologists went out to destroy them  They were caught in the act

::)

oddly enough... the creationists were wanting to use that evidence to support their case... yet they don't accept dinosaurs as being ancient

So the archaeologists are trying to hide it because it would mean man was around millions of years ago...

while the creationists want to use it to prove that dinosaurs were not that old but were arong in mankinds religious history

Hu-mons.... need to EXTERMINATE

::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: micjer on February 11, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
QuoteAs long as the religitards keep blathering on about their various religions, the deception and misdirection just gets deeper and muddier. With more than 40 years of research into those ancient writings, and many others, I have learned to trust what the writings say, and not what the religitards say.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_B3dvFMyDE
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Elvis Hendrix on February 11, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
Below is a comprehensive list. Gathered from worldwide sources of every Scientist and researcher who has converted to creationism, after studying all empirical presented evidence.




































































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Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Lunica on February 11, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
hahahaha  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: micjer on February 11, 2014, 09:22:11 PM
That is quite a list!


:o
Title: Re: 4 Ancient Questions From ET
Post by: Norval on February 14, 2014, 03:28:26 PM
yuck it up, , ,  :D

Try answering the other questions in that chapter?   ;D


Good luck, , , ,  ::)