Beating People Up is not a good idea as it leads to tension. And far as I am concerned Tension create's Paranoia within socitey and then we have the modern world as it is today.
It's very hard for me to say this but at time's when I am confronted with someone threatning my life, I want to kick their arse or end their life when the scenario occurs (IN REAL LIFE) where I just walk away.
It's hard at time's like tonight where a Guy is walking around the carpark whilst asking everyone he come's upon for money, and in my case where I waved a hand up slightly to indicate I don't have any money he then release's a diatribe upon me about waving my hand and how "He will knock my Block Off next Time". I have exlcluded the other profanitys this guy said whilst I walked on my journey through the car park to arrive home to the Mystic Yeti Lounge :D
One very true fact is that he will not Knock my "Block Off/Head" anytime.. as this Guy is insane to even state as much.
I guess the Crux of this post is more about helping people... If I turned around to fight this guy them who is better off ?
WIthout training in a fighting scenario I guess HE would be...
But I am Dearly sick of people speaking like that to other people, and was enranged when I arrived home to tell my wife about the story....
I am not sure whether my wife appreciatied my thoughts of breaking all of his limb's and sending this guy to Hospital IF I was a good fighter, but this is how I feel when people become so screwed up in their manner to treat other people.
Its not hard to be nice whilst begging for money. I have been homeless before.... but I never begged for cash so maybe I missed the whole Paranoic theme ONE percent of exbihit???
I am posting this because if i had the talent i would have busted every limb in that guy's body if I had the talent to do so, and I would feel no remorse in doing so when taking him to hospital.
Alas I don't have that skill... but man I am sick of people treating people like crap when in my case I stick up for these very people who also go out of their way to beat the living crap out of you.
The Sad thing is that I encountered this asshole right after having a very jolly chat with a guy who had bought a new electric bike. He said he got 5 day's worth of travel out of his bike... He was so happy to chat with me as he caught me having a good look at his bike. AND he wanted to chat about it!
Then asswipe come upon me.... >:(
I am proud to walk away EVERYTIME... but part of me want's to Break Arm's and Leg's.
My Question is how many other people feel That infuration from time to time in real life threating scenario's???
Do you also feel like upset ?
Soma,
I have encountered this type of a verbal accousting
before, in not having money to give to someone,
and also not willing to sell something for nothing.
It is natural to feel angry when someone
verbally assails you for no fault of your own.
You did the right thing of course by walking away...
and also while the man said these things too you,
dont let it be personal. He probably does this to
many people often.
Yes old friend, you did the right thing and walk away...
It takes more courage to walk away than fight !
unfortunately ALL the "Opposites" exist in this World (Program) which has to be the way it is...
So we should be as a "Traveller" or "Passer By" and just pass through this difficult program.
NOT all Worlds are like this, (Earth) in fact the Earth program, is the only one of its kind.
Is Mountain biking in other worlds too ? You bet ... And more extreme than here on Earth. :)
Soma
you did good.. really good in not smashing him..
wish i had some sage words to help but i don't..
i do think the world is coming to some kind of parting because there is less and less tolerance in so many things..not just this type
i'm staying in my cave for now..got a nice fire and watching the snow come down
Even though im not a religitard.i call this demon jumping.it jumped from him to you to your wife.a little residue was placed here on pegasus.no biggy.the bug didnt stick and it helped you out .all is well in the world.
Oh and hopefully the wifie wasnt infected as well.
Or it could be referenced as karma.only you know the truth.
No, I don't desire to beat people up after an ill experience.
Well, Soma, I doubt I would have done what you did. There are ways to deal with such people and those situations. But the way you handled it afterwards made it even worse. But then someone else arleady mentioned that.
Would I want that person for a "neighbor"? I doubt it unless he learned some respect for others and a nicer way to "panhandle". I came across a guy once that had a stick with a piece of string tied off the end of it and he was pretending to fish. His little sign said "Fishing for BEER." Honesty and his smile got him bucks.
But your attitude about beating this guy up, and wishing that you knew how and could, is even worse. Breaking all his bones, , tsk tsk tsk. That's way overboard.
Just a bitch slap and telling him to get some respect for people may have done the guy allot more good than breaking all his bones. Just a thought. Some instructions and teachings are learned only by violence and physical altercations.
At a younger age I was fully capable of teaching someone not to threaten me physically, now I require a little "helper", if I have to teach someone some manners. 8)
QuoteBeating People Up is not a good idea as it leads to tension. And far as I am concerned Tension create's Paranoia within socitey and then we have the modern world as it is today.
OK, let me tell you something;
When I was little, everybody beat me up.
When i was middle-sized, i could beat up anyone smaller than me, but i still got beat up by the bigger guys.....
When i got bigger (around 17) i realised that i could beat up all the smaller guys, both physically AND mentally :P
Should i hold that course? NO!
WHY? because i soon realised i needed the little guy's help, and without being his freind, i would lose that support.
I soon learned the lesson of
'giving and taking'....i learned one of the hard lessons of
life.And that is,
look after the little guys, because there are a lot more of them than you think, and they can actually help you... 8)
ETA: if i see someone physically abusing another human or even an animal, i will calmly walk over to them and beat the carp out of them, because i believe that is RIGHT.
And that's the way it is, don't cross me :P
Quote from: Norval on February 09, 2014, 11:42:32 PM
There are ways to deal with such people and those situations.
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Quote from: robomont on February 09, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Even though im not a religitard.i call this demon jumping.
Religitard, , , I am still chuckeling over that one, , thanky.
Now about demon jumping, , , , , good call there too.
Gold for yah.
Maybe it's a man thing. The testosterone poisoning, Y'know.
I NEVER really want to hit anyOne (though I may SAY I do just venting frustration). Heck. I don't hit the walls as I have seen some men do when They want to hit People.
[shrug]
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 10, 2014, 04:40:26 AM
Maybe it's a man thing.
True... women's weapon of choice is POISON :D
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 10, 2014, 04:40:26 AM
Maybe it's a man thing.
Maybe.
I remember seeing two aggressions made by adults, in one case it was a man that slapped another man, the other case was a woman that fired a shotgun at her husband's stomach.
Regarding the situation in the opening post, I don't know how I would react, as that as never happened to me in the last 40 years, only when I was in school.
I fantasize quite a lot about smacking various peeps up their faces.
However it's much better to play the mental game and beat them at that level everytime.
After a few mental excersises, you can become capable of not getting mad, and you can then learn to laugh in the face of all things negative.
I've found laghing at others when their angry is just as satisfying as a jab/round punch to the face.
ALWAYS walk away unless there is absolutley no choice.
things can easily turn against you, no matter who you are and what you know.
Hi,
You have done the right thing Somamech,bravo, because in these days hummmmmmm
I hate these kind of agressions under any form.
I was at the elemantary school 4 rd grade and a guy from 5th( in the late 60's ) grade was always
harcelling some others very often the same one during recreation time.
Once he was over his victim laughing making the ''victim'' crying and humiliating and
always in an hidden area you see the picture, anyway, I was watching it and suddenly
it was enough for me ( at this moment I didn't think about the reaction from the guy, I was too young for that)
and said.......... Hey ! why you don't try with me he is too small for you, his reaction was just let the ''victim'' away
and his face was red of shame and a lot in the court was waiting for something but period.
Some twenty years later at a wedding party the''victim'' approach me with a drink and a smile
and said '' you know I will never forgot the once you defend me at school,it was a nightmare
each time I was going to school because of him, thank you, you're my friend''
Do I will have in these days the same reaction NOT AT ALL too much psychopaths and ...etc etc
Unfortunetaly the agressors take his own life after (80's) by suicide. :'( God rest his soul
Peace 8)
People like that are energy vampires. Avoid and ignore.
You know what gets me, is the people begging for money that are using it for drugs. It is probably the reason they are on the street to begin with.
However in the Movie Bruce Almighty, I always think of the scene at the last where god is playing a homeless guy. Testing us.
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Frauds everywhere we have to look out for
Quote from: robomont on February 09, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Even though im not a religitard.i call this demon jumping.it jumped from him to you to your wife.a little residue was placed here on pegasus.no biggy.the bug didnt stick and it helped you out .all is well in the world.
Oh and hopefully the wifie wasnt infected as well.
Or it could be referenced as karma.only you know the truth.
Bug Reverberation mate ? ;)
Quote from: Norval on February 09, 2014, 11:42:32 PM
No, I don't desire to beat people up after an ill experience.
Well, Soma, I doubt I would have done what you did. There are ways to deal with such people and those situations. But the way you handled it afterwards made it even worse. But then someone else arleady mentioned that.
Would I want that person for a "neighbor"? I doubt it unless he learned some respect for others and a nicer way to "panhandle". I came across a guy once that had a stick with a piece of string tied off the end of it and he was pretending to fish. His little sign said "Fishing for BEER." Honesty and his smile got him bucks.
But your attitude about beating this guy up, and wishing that you knew how and could, is even worse. Breaking all his bones, , tsk tsk tsk. That's way overboard.
Just a bitch slap and telling him to get some respect for people may have done the guy allot more good than breaking all his bones. Just a thought. Some instructions and teachings are learned only by violence and physical altercations.
At a younger age I was fully capable of teaching someone not to threaten me physically, now I require a little "helper", if I have to teach someone some manners. 8)
Norval you are quite right about my attitude in breaking his bones. IF I had 110% confidence in solving this person's issue it would not involve any bone breaking. Alas I dont have that confidence and walked away!
Its funny at times with the web, we can share a lot of stuff but its hard to share how people's "On the Street" attitudes are in this circumstance. I've now experienced two instance's of this sort of beheivour in this locatioon for no reason whatsoever. I think people from the UK would understand the Government Housing Aspect as where this occured is very close to Gov Housing, and even though most people are good people you do get little pockets of people who have let themselves down by letting the system get them down. If I was a gambler I would put my money on METH being behind each instance without question. And people on Speed/Meth when they are walking around threating people cannot be reasoned with.
The Last time I stood up to anyone for making comment's in the manner I described in the OP was almost 20 years ago to the day +- 10 days... In that case I was called a Long Haired SOMETHING... I Ended up with Three Layers of 45 Stitche's across my face. ;D
Now the odd thing regarding this thread is how prior to moir posting this thread and also prior to the events detailed in this thread... I posted on another forum to a request for help in regards to someone who is taking on a very large Movie Studio for pilthering his idea. I likened this guy to the Band Fugazi and he was flattered to be likened to Fugazi as They stood up and walked their talk.
Although in the heat of the moment and the poison which ensure's afterwards the ability to crush bone's doe's come to mind, and I am not in anyway remorseful for "THINKING" that. But where that thought can be confused is "Literally" taking that action. If a person posse's the ability to crush bones, they also the know they don't have to if you get my drift. ;)
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 10, 2014, 04:40:26 AM
Maybe it's a man thing. The testosterone poisoning, Y'know.
I NEVER really want to hit anyOne (though I may SAY I do just venting frustration). Heck. I don't hit the walls as I have seen some men do when They want to hit People.
[shrug]
;D
Amy I think Matrix is very correct in the description of this world.. Its mad!
At time's I do wonder if people from other worlds use our venacualr and put a note on their galactic maps that state's "Crazy in the Coconut World..Enter at your own Risk" with fine print stating how insurance won't cover the trip to Earth! ;D
I thank you for your comment along with everyone else's as sometimes as a current Human on Earth one has to open up a bit and let out with frustrations :)
Quote from: micjer on February 10, 2014, 03:58:52 PM
People like that are energy vampires. Avoid and ignore.
You know what gets me, is the people begging for money that are using it for drugs. It is probably the reason they are on the street to begin with.
However in the Movie Bruce Almighty, I always think of the scene at the last where god is playing a homeless guy. Testing us.
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Hey Mic this is whats get's me with what I posted to Norval in regards to how people act in different country's.
Here in Oz the pro's at begging are ok, they may or may not have drug problems but they never be prick's about it. I am sure I will see this same guy hassling people again, as in that certain pocket/area there a two women asking for money all the time who I see having younger men and women hanging off them. The difference is they are not homeless, they run out of money for fun!
I've donated in the past to this org called swags for the homeless. A Swag is sorta like a Bivy Bag.
http://swags.org.au/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qWgh2t5ObA
Now that is a great product.
Very moving video.
Thanks for the link mate. Now that is an organization that I would like to donate to. These people are some that need it.
In Salt Lake City there was a beggar
He would get up every morning and put on his bum clothes and go to a favorite corner....
He was pulling in around $300.00 a day average...
At the end of the day he would go home...
To his million dollar mansion on Bonneville Ridge and his Ferrari in the driveway.
They caught on to him... the IRS tried to get him... but there is no income tax on proceeds received from begging, nor is there a LIMIT on how much you are allowed to collect.
True Story :D Made the Salt Lake news
Yeah mate its an awesome way of giving people who are REALLY homeless at least a bed to sleep in that works. It doesn't solve the problem of why they are homeless, but after spending two weeks homeless in my car I found that a car wont even keep one warm in the cold periods. AT least the cops that patrolled that area understood my plight at that time in life drinking booze so i could sleep with the engine running to get some warmth. ;D
Quote from: zorgon on February 10, 2014, 07:34:18 PM
In Salt Lake City there was a beggar
He would get up every morning and put on his bum clothes and go to a favorite corner....
He was pulling in around $300.00 a day average...
At the end of the day he would go home...
To his million dollar mansion on Bonneville Ridge and his Ferrari in the driveway.
They caught on to him... the IRS tried to get him... but there is no income tax on proceeds received from begging, nor is there a LIMIT on how much you are allowed to collect.
True Story :D Made the Salt Lake news
Thats what is sorta intruiging in regards to population size and people. In Oz that would be almost impossible to get away with as people would sniff it out... I think ?
We do have pro's here though thats for sure, but No-One would want their life as even if they make a Benji a day it wont go far.
AT least with pro's i suppose is that they know not to be ill temprered fools, genuine folkes don't tend to be either... It's the ill fortuned folkes who have bite in their toungue which I described in my OP that seem to be the most needing in correction !
Quote from: zorgon on February 10, 2014, 07:34:18 PM
In Salt Lake City there was a beggar
He would get up every morning and put on his bum clothes and go to a favorite corner....
He was pulling in around $300.00 a day average...
At the end of the day he would go home...
To his million dollar mansion on Bonneville Ridge and his Ferrari in the driveway.
They caught on to him... the IRS tried to get him... but there is no income tax on proceeds received from begging, nor is there a LIMIT on how much you are allowed to collect.
True Story :D Made the Salt Lake news
The SOB. Good scam.
And then there is the issue of what percent of your charitable donations actually get where it is intended.
I wouldn't donate to this fund.
http://www.americanownews.com/story/19707005/how-much-of-your-donations-really-go-to-charity
QuoteA telemarketing company that conducted a campaign got more than 99 percent of the funds, leaving the Alzheimer's Association with only twelve-tenths of one percent of the Hawaii donations.
Im getting some dirty threads, and headed to the corner..tax free?
Im a beggar now!
Sure beats being honest and working for a living.