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Title: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: zorgon on February 12, 2014, 12:41:01 AM
BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!

In 2014, Mercury will be retrograde during:

February 6–28
June 7–July 2
October 4–25

You may not be superstitious but I know many in the world of business and high finance that will NOT start a new project during these times

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Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: sky otter on February 12, 2014, 01:16:05 AM


yeah well add voc at the same time and you really need to pay attention to what's going on around and with you

voc   is void of course and means basically that there are no aspects to the moon at that time
can be minutes or hours long



Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: astr0144 on February 12, 2014, 01:36:54 AM
Hi "Z"...

Yes, I am aware that some seriously do believe in Astrology and the position and motions of the planets and suggest that they play a part with our Earth and the beings upon it....

I suspect its similar to the Moon & Lunar positions...that has been said effect our decisions and emotions....

Many people who trade the Financial Markets believe that the positions of planets effect the markets.....

Saturn & Jupiter in particular...

If you think of their orbits being circular (Although in reality they are eliptical)...

If you take a circle that is 360 degrees...

then think of 90, 180, 270, degrees Known as squares..(1/4s)

and 120, 240 degrees known as thrines (1/3s)

Half of this is 180...degrees.

Quarter is 90 degrees

1/3 = 120 degrees....

2/3rds = 240 degrees...

When the planets orbit the sun in relation to the Earth...
say if you take a point when they may all align....

Sun, Earth, Saturn....

The Earth takes 1 year to orbit the Sun..

Saturn takes about 30 yrs... (29. -- actually)


Then look when Saturn has orbited at say 90degrees. then 180 degrees..

or 120 degrees and 240 degrees.

Often these points in time can effect the markets as to when they make major turns or major highs and lows.

March 2009 for eg...The Bottom of the 2007 to 2009 crash... I am told was due to Saturns position from a past main high or low..several years ago..


Its much more complex than this as there are 7 other planets...

But that is the basis of some of it....

You May have the two large planets in various related positions....
Such as Jupiter and Saturn...(Jupiter takes about 12 yrs to orbit the Sun)

Sometimes Both Saturn and Jupiter align on the side of the Sun..sometimes in opposite sides..

There are NUMEROUS situations.. But I suspect this is a lot what effects us here on Earth...

I suppose its the Solar Systems  type of Clock !

It is an interesting subject but very involved and very time consuming.

There is special software that show the positions of the planets and some traders use it after they have studied it..

I have a friend who at one time considered trying to research it...and started to try.... He seemed to suggest it seemed a bit o a life time study and I got the impression it may take 20 yrs or more to be able to understand learn and apply it...Ok if you started in ones younger years maybe...or if your lucky enough to know someone who can show you ! and save all the long study..

Finding such a person however may be like trying to find E.T !  :)
Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: sky otter on February 12, 2014, 01:45:25 AM


here's one for you astro

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6192.0
Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: astr0144 on February 12, 2014, 02:05:38 AM
Hi Sky,

There are numerous & various types of Astrologers and trying to find one that seems to be good or accurate is again like trying to find E.T  :)

Are any able to predict with any accuracy....?

Many , I suspect  Most that we come across just do it for fun...also aim at the masses for each star sign...

There MAY be something in that ! I am not say that there is not !

I once followed a Financial astrologer for a while on a forum and some of the things that he described did seem a bit mystical and a bit hard to imagine that there could be any real seriousness in what he taught..

I still do not know for sure even now...

But I have seen him give some predictions that were quite remarkable !
Like when to buy Gold back in the early 2000..

(I also witnessed another give a date when the Dow would drop 500 points in a day.... and It did !....that was quite amazing !   :))

Some yes use the Zodiac  as well as the Planets in their forecasts.along with many other things...

and yes they cannot half ramble on !  :D

He used to claim that if he knew certain details about a person he could predict their last day  :o

so there may well be a lot more to it than most believe !

but its a question where would one start as their is numerous methods...Many I suspect just mystic !..but a few maybe having validity.

Another thing is he claimed that one had to have a one to one reading to have any viability !

Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: sky otter on February 12, 2014, 03:20:07 AM


astro
did you read that post?.
i was saying that he is good...yes there are all kinds just as in everything else

very early on at about 13 i started to study astrology..took lessons, joined groups , ask everyone for their permission to do natal charts..i was a real pest....i have files..lol
my point is besides a good bs meter i can point out some good ones..
this guy qualifies

Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: astr0144 on February 12, 2014, 04:02:06 AM
Sorry Sky ...

I did not know that you had took lessons ! or new much about it as such.

You know more than me !  :)  I only know some basic stuff.

I used to see many astrology posts online when I used to try to do some research to find the right one...so I was used to seeing very similar posts to that..

However I will take another look and see if what they may be saying may work out...

Your an Otter of many talents !  :D
Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: sky otter on February 12, 2014, 04:33:53 AM


hey astro..no biggie
when i was doing it you had to know stuff and do math calculations and it was all very personal
now you can type in the info and get your natal chart in seconds..for free..
and a good one by some of the best..
you want to play go here
www.astro.com
they are very good and very accurate and have lots of choices and info
Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: astr0144 on February 12, 2014, 04:52:34 AM
Hi Sky,

I was just looking at that Astrology article and trying to work out what he meant by Sedna !....

I just found something on google and was not aware of it ...

QuoteSedna is a large trans-Neptunian object that was, as of 2012, about three times as far from the Sun as Neptune.

I recall some astrologers referring to some of the smaller solar system objects , moons and asteroids etc as well as the main planets...

The thing is this is newer astrology....but these objects had always been their before our technology evolved to discover them...so some of their predictions now take the new discoveries into consideration in their analysis..


Yes.. some appear to refer to what may be going on in the World...but is this their reading on it or just general knowledge that one may know if they research enough..


I do recall seem to recall astro.com  ... and I should do with that being my PRC Name !  :)
Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: zorgon on February 12, 2014, 05:10:39 AM
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Title: Re: BEWARE Mercury Retrograde!!!
Post by: sky otter on February 13, 2014, 03:57:21 AM


hahahahaha well if you believe this stuff or live by it


here's the rest of the story..mars going retro is money probs..just sayin

( i read them as fairy tales and this is one of my favorite story tellers)







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Twists and Turns ~ 13 Feb 2014


Before you know it, Mercury returns to direct motion in Aquarius on the last day of this month. After all, a fortnight is but a blink of the eye in the long term life objective time line. It's time to line up lingering confusion from Mercury's recent, quick dip into Pisces. Mind blur needs to be shaken off with a reset of major life priorities. Forget silly fears, frets and distractions. Think outside the box... not so much in terms of weird quirky thinking that is hard for consensus reality to grasp, but more in the way of getting beyond the mental strictures you set for yourself. When parameters become perimeters, it's time to stomp boxes in the mind into a recycle-able heap.


The image for the Mercury reset is a huge, shaggy dog emerging from the River Styx, just in time to enter the new mutt trick category at the Westminster Dog Show. He runs up to the judges and shakes off the water from his dunking all over the judges who must find his antics endearing and worthy of an award. Alternatively, and more on a Mercury mind-meld cogence level, in the Winter Olympics, who comes out on top? Is it the country with the most gold medal wins, or the country with the most medals overall... or the country with the fewest athletes getting locked in bathrooms? Pesky questions for the trickster to answer while pivoting within the abstraction-rich boundlessness of Aquarius.


That done, Mars is fixing to go retrograde the very next day. And the day after that, Mars in Libra squares off with Venus in Capricorn. Sure there's an edge going within this pattern. There's what you want and what you must do to get what you want. Given the transits of the last weeks, some report feeling a "why bother?" and/or an "is it worth it?"general malaise. The big question here: "Can you kick the funk right square in the ass and get moving?"


There's added support arriving the same day (March 2nd). Vesta, the keeper of the hearth and the one who ensures the fire within stays lit, retrogrades in Libra, virtually conjunct Mars. Remarkably, Vesta retros at 29 degrees 59 minutes of Libra. Talk about stacking up pressure on the critical balance of life scenario pivot points. What is good measure? How much push is too much? Is overly ripe confidence alienating? How insecure are boastful people really?


Oh yeah, the moon's north node is in there, too. Can one ignore the reason for their incarnation? Can a person successfully and tranquilly deny their God-given talents and refuse to apply them in life?


On the other side of Vesta, saunters Ceres in Scorpio, also retrograde.


Is there a choice as to the proper response to these planetary twists and turns? Here we have the Flashdance (the movie from the 80's) syndrome: if the dream dies, you're no longer living. Says Ceres from her position, "No. Make your case for yourself and your goods and play nicely in the sandbox." Mars whispers, "If you're feeling entitled, go out there and do what it takes to receive the awards/rewards you believe you deserve." Says Vesta, "I'm going to chat up Mercury and see if I can remember where I put my flint just in case my flame flickers."


Also on the 2nd, Saturn retrogrades in Scorpio. When Saturn works through the zodiac in a prograde motion, life's requirements are quite clear. "It's a put one foot in front of another, keep pushing forward, count your completed objectives, heap up small things to amount to the large goal" kind of time. When Saturn reverses, efforts meet with what is often construed to be a setback, denial, rejection or unsavory assessment of ventures pursued. It's more complicated than that...


But before giving the Saturn retrograde era it's due, let's skip ahead four days. Jupiter goes direct on March 6th, giving the gears of the year the first shot of perceivable grease. Some of the squeakiness of life recedes. The wheels turning can be watched without the fear they will fall off the wagon, or jump the track, whichever image better serves diminishment of doubtful speculation.


Jupiter turning back direct restores the urge to push and pitch, often without preparation and propitiation. In the four days or so between Saturn turning retrograde and Jupiter resuming prograde motion, anchor your action intention with your belief system. Wrap around the idea that you'll do whatever it takes, and allow "whatever" to take as long as it might, to get there from here. This can be emotionally stressful and requires a huge investment of energy and fortified psychic willpower before there's a hint of life response in what might be perceived a worthwhile return on investment.


Many heartily bitch and moan while enduring one of these intervals. But those with long vision, take a few days to emotionally adjust, wrap around the big picture, remember the original intention behind the swamp draining, and locate the proverbial bootstraps.


Now back to the showstopper, Saturn. It is important to remember that Saturn is on your side. He wants you do have all ducks in a row, i's dotted, t's crossed and logic intact in anything you present to the world for acceptance. There's something else... Saturn is subjective... and there's one more thing... Saturn works from subconscious straits.


I've learned heaps about Saturn from my pitching of screenplays and pounding on the doors of the entertainment industry. Here are some of those things:


Despite your most brilliant work and effort, the reaction of people determines your success. There's the person who must first review and assess your work. Their view is subjective. A "pass" does not imply an intrinsic lack of merit. It's just their opinion and they may not like your work.


It's important to realize that those at the first gate of project assessment have their ass on the line. If they greenlight a weak project, their ass is grass, and next week they may be pitching their own talents to potential patrons, benefactors, employers, investors.


This combined Saturn effect adds an unconscious attitude on the part of project gatekeepers... of needing to reject projects and look for flaws, instead of enjoying something that is truly mind-boggling. If they like something and a higher up hates it... wooie! There's hell to pay. Oh yeah, the higher up works within the realm of their subjectivity too, which is derived from their sense of economic satisfaction, political leaning, attachment to or detachment from theology, and their sense of what fits in the big picture.


When meeting subjective gatekeepers on your path who find your effort repugnant, ridiculous, regressive or what have you, say "thank you," and quickly move along before their opinion sticks in your aura.


At this point there is a question to ask: Is your presentation/work/pitch/concept as good as it can be?


Saturn says there is never a perfect screenplay. By strict denotation that is true. Still, scripts get made into films and extract dollars from the pockets of those who sit in theater seats watching. How about The Lego Movie? Will it win an Oscar? Not likely. Will its $69 M USD in its premiere weekend mean anything? Yeah, baby.


There is no perfect script. You can never assume the latest revision is "there." Screenwriting is a task of endless writing and rewriting. It never stops. Never.


It's not like a book where one submits a manuscript, which is edited, changes are made, proofing occurs and there's publication. Script writing is a matter of perpetual editing and the quest for constant enhancement.

Perpetual editing and constant refinements, no matter what the effort, are forms of propitiation to Saturn.

Every month your computer receives updates on its software, usually without your knowledge. Does that mean you bought crappy software in the first place? No. It means that as new things are learned, groovy, more advanced features can be added. Security can always be strengthened to combat those with afflicted Saturns - like hackers and credit card rip off schemers who believe making grief for others is a merit badge.


But just think... propitiating Saturn means you'll never be bored. Every single day you can look forward to making more progress. Every single day your purpose in life perfects as your renderings improve.

Here's the mantra (or something like this): "Editors are my friends, critics are a means of finding perfection, Saturn strengthens my substrate."


The mantra applies all the time; as does the realization of wide spread subjectivity filters reaction to the best you have to offer.


So, Saturn turns retrograde with Mars. Internalize. Review, redo, revise, reconstruct. It is what the time demands. Those who comply will get there first. That's exactly what Mars desires. And Saturn wants you to have a leg to stand upon once you get there.









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