F Y I ....for your information
this should probably go somewhere tucked away.. but no i think it should be listened to
especially from min 22 on.....around 48 wow...
the big deal is when this was done.. john says he was 50.. so we are talking 21 years ago which would be 1993
some very very interesting stuff....talk of space program in the early 1900's
think about it
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William Cooper Radio Broadcast: John Lear Interview
Published on Jan 2, 2014
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Milton William Cooper
Author
Milton William "Bill" Cooper was an American conspiracy theorist, radio broadcaster, and author best known for his 1991 book Behold a Pale Horse, in which he warned of multiple global conspiracies, some involving extraterrestrial aliens. Wikipedia
Born: May 6, 1943, Long Beach, CA
Died: November 5, 2001, Eagar, AZ
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/cooper_said.htm
WHAT BILL COOPER SAID
TWO WEEKS BEFORE HE WAS KILLED
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/coop01.htm
This is tragic news. I have a few more papers left to send to my readers and my "farewell" paper, but this needed to get sent out immediately. In a nutshell: Two weeks ago, on a nighttime broadcast simulcast through a number of national radio stations, William Cooper, ex-Naval Intel, blew his Top Secret security clearance by putting together a press conference where he laid out the structure of this country's SHADOW GOVERNMENT, tracing its roots to the UFO/Alien cover-ups that began in the 1940s-1950s.
He was very concise and explicit, naming names and documentation, offices and meetings from the 50s on down to the1970s. He literally ripped the lid of the cover-up, and told his audience that he'd probably be killed for this. he was. This brilliant, decorated military career man left Naval Intelligence in 1975,. By his own admission, he was unable to reconcile what he'd learned while in Naval Intel, about Alien controls and secret combinations within over our government. He refused to serve the anti-constitutional "Military Industrial Complex" run by NAS/CIA and the NWO, and resigned.
After this he began to leak info, often receiving threats on his life and family for so doing. He continued undaunted, but has been increasingly harassed for his outspoken whistle-blowing. To weeks ago he decided he could hold back what he'd learned no longer, and blew the whistle on the whole charade, naming people's names, dates places...everything he'd learned! Apparently this was the last straw? William Cooper's stunning presentation was bound to get him killed. He knew it, and stated it before his live audience. If anyone thinks this man's statements were exaggerated, ask yourself WHY he was killed? There is tight security surrounding the details of the actual incident resulting in his death.
The story is being spun to make it sound like he had a scuffle with two Sheriff deputies in which he shot one officer in the head twice. He was then. According to the official story, shot dead. The deputy is said to be alive, but Cooper was killed on the spot. You can bet your three dollar bills and wooden nickels that the truth surrounding this little "assassination" will never be revealed before it is spun beyond recognition. There is little doubt that Bill simply went too far. This is the same sort of thing that got Kennedy shot. If "they" kill presidents to cover up these truths, how much chance does one lone ex-military officer have? My own research corroborates every aspect of what Bill had to say in those areas where his subset of information intersects my own. His expertise and knowledge, however, was of a military/political nature (governmental, historical and cover-ups) nature, not specifically scientific.
Yet what he had to say rings true as far as the technological aspects of UFO technology is concerned, as well as some of the truths he mentioned concerned with the nature and motis operandi of the "Gray" aliens, as I have come to understand them. For information on ordering the incredible 2-hour William Cooper press conference on tape, call the KTTK Radio station at: (801) 759-1581. They broadcast live from 6 to 7 am, Monday thru Friday; and on Saturday and Sunday at 7 to 9 pm, as "k-talk" Radio am 630 ---- in the Provo Utah area. The night of the broadcast their broadcast was interrupted by what was likely a triangle ship Em pulse weapon. Since then several other broadcasts have been so targeted, and disruptions have occurred as Federal officials have begun harassing the station and interrupting broadcasts by demanding access to studio files during peak broadcast periods. This harassment has been going on quietly across the nation, the target being "talk radio stations NOT with the "plan." This does not include all of what one might think of as "right wing" talk shows. Shows like fat-man Rush Limbaugh's and CIA disinformation agent provocateurs like Art Bell, are sure to continue unabated.
In this researcher's opinion there are few great stations left, among these I rank KTTK radio, and the Jeff Rense "Sightings" show among the best. Especially good (less the gaia-oriented new-aged philosophical rhetoric) is the LauraLee show . I do not agree 100% with any of these shows, but they all present interesting non-mainstream scientific information and all three people running these outfits appear genuinely interested in the truth.
This is a GREAT start. K-Talk's website can be reached at---- The actual ordering page is located at ----- Other interesting tapes are located in their archives, at and the taped session is titled: "UFO'S & mj12 - Government collaboration with Aliens - The Shadow Government" Our deepest sympathies go out to the family of William Cooper. He died a true patriot and with a clear conscience.
May we all be as faithful to our principles as this man was. This is yet another WAKE UP CALL to anyone who doubts that we have entered a NEW era. Bill deliberately got this meeting aired before the Senate and House passed their fascist new "Patriot/USA" act-bills.
Welcome to the age of the NEW WORLD ORDER folks.
It has arrived. Be afraid...be VERY afraid.
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http://www.rense.com/general16/coop.htm
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William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
SierraTimes.com
11-6-1
"...God bless my family. I love my wife & children more than life itself. Everything I do is for the future of all my children. They may not understand why I have sacrificed so much, why I am so dedicated to this work; but someday they will. I want them to know they are the most important People in my life, and how very, very much I love them..." - William Cooper
EAGER, AZ - William Cooper has been killed and an Apache County sheriff's deputy wounded in a shootout, authorities said.
William Milton Cooper, 58, of Eager, had hosted a talk show broadcast on the Worldwide Christian Radio out of Nashville, which receives it via phone from his home in St. Johns.
The deputy, whose name was being withheld by authorities, was shot twice in the head while trying to arrest Cooper, a state Department of Public Safety spokesman said today. Cooper was killed by another officer.
Several deputies were attempting to arrest Cooper, who was armed with a handgun, said Officer Steve Volden, a spokesman for the DPS, which was investigating the shooting.
He said details of the shooting would be released later today.
The deputy was in critical condition at a Phoenix hospital early today, Volden said.
Cooper was one of the most widely known Shortwave radio broadcast, "the Hour of the Time", heard worldwide and on the Internet. "William Cooper may be one of America's greatest heroes and this story may be the biggest story in the history of the world." said Mills Crenshaw, KTALK, Salt Lake City.
William Cooper was reared in an Air Force family. As a child he lived in many different countries, graduating from Yamato High School in Japan. Since he has traveled through or lived in many different foreign countries Mr. Cooper has a world view much different than most Americans.
William served with the Strategic Air Command, United States Air Force. He held a secret clearance working on B-52 bombers, KC-135 refueling aircraft, and Minuteman missiles. William received his Honorable Discharge from the United States Air Force in 1965.
William joined the United States Navy fulfilling a dream previously frustrated by chronic motion sickness. He served aboard the submarine USS Tiru (SS-416), USS Tombigbee (AOG-11), Naval Support Activity Danang RVN, Naval Security and Intelligence Camp Carter RVN, Danang Harbor Patrol RVN, Dong Ha River Security Group RVN, USS Charles Berry (DE-1035), Headquarters Commander in Chief Pacific Fleet, USS Oriskany (CVA-34).
Cooper was a member of the Office of Naval Security and Intelligence serving as a Harbor and River Patrol Boat Captain at Danang and the Dong Ha River Security Group, Cua Viet, Republic of Vietnam. William Cooper was awarded several medals for his leadership and heroism during combat including two with "V" for Valor.
He served on the Intelligence Briefing Team for the Commander In Chief of the Pacific Fleet. William was the Petty Officer of the Watch and designated KL-47 SPECAT operator in the CINCPACFLT Command Center at Makalapa Hawaii. There he held a Top Secret, Q, SI, security clearance.
William Cooper achieved the rank of First Class Petty Officer, QM1, E- 6 after only 8 years of Naval service, a difficult task in any branch of the United States military. William Cooper received an Honorable Discharge from the United States Navy on December 11, 1975.
William attended Long Beach City College where he picked up an Associate of Science Degree in Photography. He founded the Absolute Image Studio and Gallery of Fine Art Photography in Long Beach, California.
William held the position of Executive Director of Adelphi Business College, Pacific Coast Technical Institute, and National Technical College. Mr. Cooper was the National Marketing Coordinator for National Education and Software.
He produced several documentaries covering subjects such as the Kennedy assassination and secret black projects that have built flying disk shaped craft. William is an internationally acclaimed radio personality broadcasting the Hour Of The Time on WBCQ worldwide short-wave 7.415 MHz from 10 PM until 11 PM Eastern Standard Time (0300 to 0400 UTC) Monday through Thursday nights.
William Cooper is the author of Behold A Pale Horse. The book has become the best selling underground book of all time. It is read and promoted by word of mouth by People of all races, religions, and nationalities.
Mr. Cooper is a world class lecturer, one of the few other than superstars, monarchs, and Popes who have appeared at Wembly in London. William Cooper has lectured for 10 years in every State.
William Cooper, Trustee, has founded for Harvest Trust, the CAJI News Service, VERITAS national full size newspaper, The Intelligence Service, Harvest Publications, and has helped over 700 low power FM affiliate stations get equipped and on the air... including the station he managed as Trustee for the Independence Foundation Trust, 101.1 FM Eagar, Arizona, broadcasting to 7,000 people.
Under his leadership Harvest Trust ventured into the publishing trade. The first book under the Harvest Trust imprint was Oklahoma City: Day One by Michele Marie Moore... the definitive classic on the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995.
Shortly after the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building Rush Limbaugh read a White House memo on the air during his broadcast which named William Cooper, "...the most dangerous radio host in America". Mr. Cooper considers William Clinton's pronouncement the greatest compliment that he has ever received.
William Cooper's FBI file, promulgated by the investigation required by his security clearances while in military service, was one of those unlawfully in possession of the White House in what has become known as, "Filegate". Shortly after this discovery President Clinton ordered all federal agencies to begin investigation, persecution, and prosecution of Mr. Cooper to shut him up.
After years of filing FOIA requests and researching the IRS William Cooper brought suit against the IRS in Federal District Court in Phoenix Arizona to force the IRS to produce proof of jurisdiction and delegation of authority which the IRS was unable to do. To short circuit Mr. Cooper's attempt to reveal the true nature of the criminal IRS, and to carry out the orders of the White House, the agency lied to a Grand Jury, not allowing William Cooper to testify, and secured indictments against Mr. Cooper and his wife Annie. This ploy successfully stopped Mr. Cooper from continuing his suit against the criminal IRS for fear of being arrested.
In 1998 VERITAS and Harvest Publications was sold to Hallmark Creative Corporation along with the copyright and all rights to all written material produced or ever to be produced by William Cooper including Behold A Pale Horse and Oklahoma City: Day one. Hallmark Creative Corporation has contracted to insure this material is always available to the public.
In 1998 copyrights and all rights to all audio and video material produced or ever to be produced by William Cooper was sold to Excel Studios Corporation including the Hour Of The Time broadcast. Excel Studios has contracted to insure this material is always available to the public.
In March of 1999, Cooper William Sent his family out of the United States for their security. He lived and worked alone with his two dogs, one rooster, and one chicken.
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.Bill Cooper predicted 911 (it cost him his life) .
Uploaded on Apr 20, 2010
This is a short yet important video presenting Bill Cooper's 9/11 prediction, rare 9/11 footage and audio from his book "Behold a Pale Horse" and the Illuminati agenda. Bill Cooper was one of the top conspiracy researchers, he was active on exposing the Illuminati (secret government) and most importantly the satanic agenda which is tied in with the UFO hoax.
Here is also a list of the 25 Illuminati princples/goals that Adam Weishaupt set up after the Rothschilds started financing the Illuminati conspiracy.
The following 25 goals apply to America and the rest of the world, this is pretty much a step by step manual on how the Illuminati conspiracy works, basically explains all the long term plans they had back at the Illuminati's founding in 1776.
The 25 Illuminati goals:
1. All men are more easily inclined towards evil than good.
2. Preach Liberalism
3. Use the idea of freedom to bring about class wars
4. Any and all means should be used to reach the Illuminati Goals as they are justified.
5. The right to lie in force.
6. The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment it has gained the strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
7. Avocation of mob psychology to control the masses.
8. Use alcohol, drugs, corruption and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.
9. Seize property by any means
10. Use of slogans such as equity, liberty, fraternity delivered into the mouths of the masses in psychological warfare
11. War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences conducted so that neither combatant obtains territory rights.
12. Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen and placed in public office who will be obedient to their demands and will be used as pawns in the game by those behind the scenes. Their advisors will have been reared and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.
13. Control the press.
14. Agents will come forward after fermenting traumatic situations and appear to be the saviors of the masses.
15. Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food and use this to control the masses or mob and then use the mob to wipe out all those who stand in the way.
16. Infiltrate into the secret Freemasons to use them for Illuminati purposes.
17. Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases and advocate lavish promises to the masses even though they cannot be kept.
18. Detail plans for resolutions, discuss the art of street fighting which is necessary to bring the population into speedy subjection.
19. Use agents as advisors behind the scenes after wars and use secret diplomacy to gain control.
20. Establish huge monopolies that lean toward world government control.
21. Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by control of raw materials. Organize agitation among the workers and subsidize their competitors.
22. Build up armaments with Police forces and Soldiers sufficient to protect our needs.
23. Members and leaders of the one world government would be appointed by the directors.
24. Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of fooling, bemusing and corrupting the youthful members of society by teaching them theories and principles that we know to be false.
25. National and International laws should be used to destroy civilization and enslave and control the people.
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not much of a movie oscar person so while waiting to go shovel the next batch of snow i seem to be finding a lot to read
this is not a two sided coin but a coin of many sides..below is just another side
http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/ufo/don.allen/bill.cooper
The following are a compilation of message traffic that was introduced
on the ASK_UFO echo on the ParaNet UFO network by contributing editor, Don Ecker
of UFO MAGAZINE. This file is for anyone that has ever read any materials
by Milton William Cooper or John Lear and made you _wonder_ about
these individuals. Incidentally, Don Ecker did a 2 part series last
year called "The Whistleblowers" that featured a thorough investigation
of Bill Cooper and did a wonderful job, in my opinion. :-)
This is part 1 of 2 parts.
i picked this blurp becasue of it's being mentioned in the above youie
get something to drink.. this is long
Excerpt #1
===========
"William P. Lear, inventor and chairman of the board of Lear, Inc., one
of the nation's largest electronics firms specializing in aviation, for
months has been going over new developments and theories relating to
gravity with his chief scientists and engineers".
"...He is convinced that it will be possible to create artificial electro-
gravitational fields 'whose polarity can be controlled to cancel out
gravity".
"...'All the (mass) materials and human beings within these fields will be
part of them. They will be adjustable so as to increase or decrease the
weight of any object in its surroundings. They won't be affected by the
earth's gravity or that of any celestial body".
'This means that if any person was in an anti-gravitational airplane or
space ship that carried along its own gravitational field - no matter how
fast you accelerated or changed course - your body wouldn't any more feel
it than it now feels the speed of the earth' ".
"...Eugene M. Gluhareff, president of Gluhareff Helicopter and Airplane
Corp. of Manhattan Beach, Calif., has made several theoretical design studies
of round or saucer-shaped 'vehicles' for travel into outer space..."
It might also be of some interest to the reader that this author witnessed
the late William P. Lear making another nationwide statement on a daytime,
American television program in about 1969-70. This later statement was
made in response to a question from the emcee who wanted to know what Mr.
Lear envisioned the next twenty years producing in new technology. Mr. Lear
told him that a person would be able to, say, walk into a New York "travel"
booth - somewhat similar to a telephone box in shape; - deposit his fare;
push a button; and walk out the other side of the booth in San Francisco -
having been "teleported" across America in seconds! The studio audience
automatically laughed at Mr. Lear - much to their uninformed discredit.
Mr. Lear just gaped at their performance in utter amazement. How painfully
sad and lonely he must have felt at that moment when he realized the great
gulf that separated the viewing audience from the realities he had already
witnessed in the laboratory... He was a kind and sincere man; and this
author, for one, feels a great loss at Mr. Lear's recent death...
this is mostly for the youngins..Z has most of this info already on here and there are several plus memebers who have posted tons more info if you spend the time to look
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_aviary01.htm
Captain Robert Collins - "Condor" - Special Agent Office of Special Investigations - involved in UFO Intelligence activities.
Commander C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D.
Admitted to being a member of "the Aviary" - probably was known as "Falcon".
A read an article back in the olden days that eckerd was a shill and his credentials were a lie.
Robo
who listed, hasn't been called a shill at one time or another..
this is where reading everything and believing nothing is needed
it was a slow day here in the snow so i just kept following these particular breadcrumbs
and thought some youngins might not have found this particular tunnel as they
fell down the rabbit hole
::)
i know this is long but i would hope somebody reads this stuff and has something to say
Quote from: sky otter on March 03, 2014, 03:05:22 PM
::)
i know this is long but i would hope somebody reads this stuff and has something to say
I'm unsure what requires response.. ?
Cooper died a fair few years ago, and we all know the story..
I'm unable to view vid, can you provide a transcript of the 9/11 prediction?
My 2 Cents:Ecker is a shill, it's almost a fact.
Cooper either spread mis/dis info on purpose or unwittingly..
The list of 25 could have been written by anyone who's read the protocols in the last 100 years.
QuoteThe studio audience
automatically laughed at Mr. Lear - much to their uninformed discredit.
Mr. Lear just gaped at their performance in utter amazement. How painfully
sad and lonely he must have felt at that moment when he realized the great
gulf that separated the viewing audience from the realities he had already
witnessed in the laboratory...
A NASA scientist, back in 2002, said this to me and my research partner, "He who runs the fastest, runs the loneliest." and this, "They didn't believe Pasture at first either."
That did provide some comfort, but not much after the beating we had received at so called science web sites about our crater chain research. :P
Yes Otter, there are a few that do read most of this material, , and much of it is old hat to us old foggies, , LOL Yet the newbies need to learn. :)
sky,
I have never heard that video interview - WC and Lear.
It had a bit of interference, maybe I never forced myself
to listen to the whole thing due to that....idk.
WCooper was imo definitely taken out.
Quote from: burntheships on March 03, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
sky,
WCooper was imo definitely taken out.
But is the reason that certain?
Quote from: Sinny on March 03, 2014, 04:13:33 PM
But is the reason that certain?
IMO, the reason is he was talking too much.
About what in particular, I dont know it was
any certain thing.
in my opinion...
ok here's kinda where i am coming from..over and beside the actual old stuff
i know very few will read the whole thing but i put it there anyway..
i think when cooper said that the aliens stuff was planted as top secret files..he hit the nail on the head..what better than to have a few "intelligent' officers find it and spread the word..
human nature says it will happen and i'm sure the percentages were calculated
and what better way to make it look even more real by pursuing those who talked
and what did happen to all the wow stuff john's father spoke of..where'd it all go
ok if not aliens and the germans weren't alone with the intel
how the hell are they truly keeping this secret?
do they really have the mind wipe down that well that they can use people
and make them forget it?
tons of questions emerge and re-emerge..
this radio broadcast of john was done in 97 but just uploaded in january 2014.
the Galen Winsor thing is fairly new old coming back to surface
..again...try finding anything on him
if you hunt for anything on line from obits to news going beyond 2000 (sometimes anything before 2007) it isn't on line anymore..
you can't find older stuff
SOOOOOOthe question i am asking WHY it surfacing now?
are we at a crossroads?...turning point ?..final choice sort of thing?
just WHO is powering the re emerging of this stuff?...and why
my questions and thoughts aren't on aliensand coverups of the past
but power struggle now
anybody?
Hi Sky, see you're awake again :)
Quoteok if not aliens and the germans weren't alone with the intel
how the hell are they truly keeping this secret?
i think they moved it from the north pole, to Mars ;)
Quotedo they really have the mind wipe down that well that they can use people
and make them forget it?
I think they do.
Quotetons of questions emerge and re-emerge..
Yes they do, why is it some 'shills' or 'whistleblowers' get whacked, and yet others don't.....or as in the (CT arena) case of OBL, get him out the freezer, thaw him out & shoot him again?
So maybe this William just outlived his usefulness?
Who knows, but its fascinating stuff, even for an 'oldie' like me :)
Quotethis radio broadcast of john was done in 97 but just uploaded in january 2014.
the Galen Winsor thing is fairly new old coming back to surface
..again...try finding anything on him.....
SOOOOOOthe question i am asking WHY it surfacing now?
are we at a crossroads?...turning point ?..final choice sort of thing?
Yes i think we are. i have for a long time maintained that the more of these forums spring up, the more they will discover. When they get to a certain point (the truth?) they get zapped in some way.
Either researchers get physically or emotionally attacked, or they just turn wierd, like someone we had dealings with recently.
Quotejust WHO is powering the re emerging of this stuff?...and why
my questions and thoughts aren't on aliens and coverups of the past
but power struggle now
anybody?
Well i think i just answered that, even before i finished reading your post, i was thinking the same thing,
Why now?Why did i get thrown out of another forum recently?
Whoever arranged that deal knew me intimately, & THAT is not very funny!
Truth, as always, will prevail in the end.
I just don't want to wait for 'the end' to find out, LOL
Does anybody hear a large lady singing?
ETA: I think we know why.
The NWO knows that we know what they know, so it's like an info arms race.
They are pushing the plan forward, maybe as much as 10 years too early, because the peeps are becoming aware, and it scares the poop out of them :D
Next up: Blue-beam, fake alien attacks, mass sightings of God(s) etc etc....
Hi Sky
You do make me think :o
When I saw the Winsor thing I thought wow that is where they get the powr for all of the ships that they have 8)
I also think that the (good guys) are being more active and people like you see it first and then a lot of us here on Peggy start connecting dots.
Just my 2 cents.
Peggy rules ;D
Bless
Back
PM Gold for you Sky
Ok, in a nut shell, , ,
Good ETs and Bad ETs.
The good ones want us to join them in intergalactic union. (so to say)
The Bad ETs don't want us.
What's left of the Bad ETs, after the war up there, were thrown down here till the Good ETs return and they don't want that known.
The Bad ETs know that their time is now very short so they are pulling out all the stops and almost anything goes to keep this all a secret.
When the Good ETs show up it will not be a false flag, everyone will be able to see 1,500 mile big shop parked in orbit, along with many other big ships.
What's left of the Bad ETs have only one place to escape to , deep underground, for the next thousand years. :)
Class dismissed, or dismembered. ;D
"Next up: Blue-beam, fake alien attacks, mass sightings of God(s) etc etc".... - and maybe the Rapture?? :)
Who knows, lol
As long as you are invited...
Who knows, lol
As long as you are invited...
HUH ?
I mean,
what religious peeps would see as the 'rapture' i like to think of it as the 'awakening' where we truly mature into realising our own potential, and stop leaving our fate in the hands of 'gods' or 'demons'.
We are the Gods, we can do anything, only most of us are completely unaware of this.
We think of ourselves as grains of sand on an endless beach, instead of each of us being a whole universe of possibilities..... 8)
i'm in total agreement with what you said
but
knowing you have such power is only the pre intro
then -
like any muscle you have to exercise it to make it useable
and then
practice to make it useful
most just know and then forget or move on to pleasures of the planet
or know and think that's all there is too it...
nope
you gotta exercise your powers
that's when you get the real info on who and what we are
just knowing a tool is sitting on the bench is of no use
picking the tool up is a start
using this tool is a beginning
i'm sure you get the picture
;)
I couldn't agree more ;D
When i started writing the engineers handbook eons ago, i had 3 pages on hammers alone, LOL
QuoteThe first, most basic hand tool ever invented is, of course, the hammer.
Stone age man used it, chimpanzees use them to open nuts, they are really simple, right?
A shoe can be used as a hammer, but it won't do a very good job, because it was not built or designed to be a hammer, it was designed to be a shoe, if you nail some planks together, they will stand a better chance of staying together if you use a hammer.