This is just a communication for those who are interested.
There is an interesting thread running now on ATS.
A former translator for a Vatican Publisher, named Mauro Biglino, says that most of the Bible is translated in a wrong way.
He re-translated from the original Masoretic Hebrew text, and he found out something stunning:
1.- The Elohim was not a "God" but a group of Extraterrestrial Beings.
2.- Origin of mankind: the Elohim engineered mankind by genetic manipulation,
mixing their own DNA with the DNA of primates already present on the Earth.
(This corresponds 100% with the Sumerian Tablets and Sitchin)
3.- The Elohim are the Anunnaki.
4.- Yahwè was not a "God", but he was simply one of the Elohim/Anunnaki.
And Yahwè was not even one of the most powerful or important, therefore he was neither Enlil, nor Enki.
5.- Yahwè and the Elohim were using spacecrafts on the Earth, and other technology devices.
6.- Biglino says that the Bible does not speak of any GOD whatsoever.
7.- the "Angels" were flesh and bones beings, they were eating, drinking, they needed to wash themselves
I remind that Biglino re-translated the ORIGINAL Biblic text, the Masoretic text, in a literal way.
He wrote 2 books on the subject.
This destroys the Catholic religion, and all the Christian religions,
and puts even Darwin and Evolutionism in jeopardy, and corroborates Sitchin in may parts.
As you can imagine, Biglino was fired by the Vatican Publisher - Edizioni Paoline - as soon he wrote his books.
Here is a video (in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUuEF-_53Q
if you are interested to participate in the discussion on ATS, you can check here:
"Ex-Vatican Translator, Mauro Biglino's Alternative Creation/Translation Theory"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread804314/pg1
I think that zorgon, Amaterasu, Pimander, RUSSO and other members here will be interested.
If some of you want, we can start a thread on the subject here on this Forum, too.
From a logical and scientific angle, does not this make total sense? You bet.
I have always felt that the bible is full of facts. Only tweaked!
i feel the words of Jesus have been twisted in many cases to support the religious dogma. Doom and Fear has to be thrown in to keep people as slaves. Don't let them think for themselves!
I see nothing in the new material that shakes away a belief in some sort of intelligent Creator. All religions at their core express that thought..... that there is something that is Greater than our human flesh. Its our own interpretation of all of that which has been tweeked thoughout our own history. And that is normal. Like spokes in a wheel.... so many different interpretations. This new information only adds to old beliefs as far as I am concerned.
It makes sense to me that we have had interactions with other beings and are perhaps a " hybrid" of that interaction. Maybe that was the best thing for us... otherwise we may not have evolved past the simple need to protect ourselves from the elements and to procreate. Why go further than that? Unless another set of expectations is mixed into our cellular structure though our very own DNA.
To look at the stars and wonder? To somehow feel deep inside that there are mysterys waiting to unfold? That is not part of the normal ancient Human makeup. Why would we progress past those initial requirement........Something else made us different.
That interaction has been explained by sages through our history but only to the point where they could understand the incoming information at the time. What makes any of us think that things are different now? We are still seeing a brilliant light through a glass " darkly"
If you take FEAR away from those considerations some of us might be able to realize that this is a great positive situation for all humans... Once we all realize what our heritage and potential actually is...... the doors unlock.
Talking about it is important. The only thing that has ever changed human history is thoughtful talk..... and that we can actually manifest much of our own destiny. For positive outcomes, or negative ones.
Linda Brown
My two cents... ;)
I believe in God, the Father Almighty. Maker of heaven and earth.
Now does that mean that I know the method of that creation or the time frame it took to complete? Of course not. I believe that the bible was written for the people of those times. To try and explain complex theroies of evolution or cosmic time warps, to a mind of limited understanding of anything outside their small world experiences would take the shape of exactly what's in the bible. But hey that's me and really who knows? 8)
Here is a video I made that is a compilation of evidence concerning the Alien presence in Biblical times -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxKAjV2cjfU
I believe I peeked into that thread before I left ATS. In fact, it surprises Me not at all. In fact, because the word, "Elohim" is so clearly plural - yet translated as "God," singular - I was certain the texts were grossly mistranslated. Other clues were speaking of "We" and One wonders who "God" was talking to when "He" spoke of casting Adam out of the garden lest Adam eat of the tree of life and become a "God" like "Us."
Between the Sumerian Enki tablets and The Terra Papers (though differing widely in events leading up to the genetic creation of Humans), were exact in details of the creation itself - genetic materiel from Enki and Ninhursag being used, as one example - I have had no doubt that Humans are a genetic creation by extraterrestrials.
Other clues lie in the facts that of all the animals on earth, Humans have the largest number of genetic "defects." Animals have 0 to 20ish of these that can be passed on; Humans have over 4,000. And Humans are the only animals that cannot inbreed without high probability of issues in the offspring. Dogs, for example, have been inbred for hundreds of generations, and though issues are seen, after so many generations, Humans may get as far as three generations without major issues appearing.
So... If it was merely evolution that created Us, why would We be created so defectively - so RADICALLY defectively? And if "God" created Us in "His" image...why would "He" create all other species perfectly or nearly so, and Us so genetically disadvantaged?
Yes, I am hoping the scientists who created Us come back and I can speak with them!
(On ATS, My "blurb" said I am "Blood of Ea." Ea, being Enki, gave His genetic material to Me. [smile])
And here is one I made regarding Alien modification or 'upgrades' of our genetic evolution and their presence throughout our history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdGyqwLU9r4
I think everything - inward, outward, inbetween, thoughts, etc etc etc - EVERYTHING combined together as one thing is God.
'Aliens' are just another thing like us within the 'UNI'-'VERSE'. (Neighbors basicly)
( Unlike monkeys, at least we no longer throw fecal matter at each other when upset. (Though sometimes I miss that.) )
-well it's better than bullets...
Nice vid, Watcher! But I had to stop it to read the text - I read way too slowly! LOL!
Cap'n, I believe much as You do. I see Consciousness as "God" co-creating the Now. I see everything in the universe as Consciousness on some level. I see Consciousness striving ever upward. Have You seen the late Ian Lungold's work? It's available on youtube... We are in the final "step" of the Consciousness development "pyramid." According to Him (though I think His date of October 28, 2011 was wrong...).
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 02, 2012, 11:14:54 PM
Nice vid, Watcher! But I had to stop it to read the text - I read way too slowly! LOL!
Thanks Amaterasu. Yes I have been told recently that the cursive font is hard to read. I will remedy that in a future rev of the videos.
Wonder what the translation would be on this:
Quote
http://bible.cc/revelation/9-1.htm (http://bible.cc/revelation/9-1.htm)
The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss.
Quote from: Linda Brown on February 02, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
I see nothing in the new material that shakes away a belief in some sort of intelligent Creator. All religions at their core express that thought..... that there is something that is Greater than our human flesh. Its our own interpretation of all of that which has been tweeked thoughout our own history. And that is normal. Like spokes in a wheel.... so many different interpretations. This new information only adds to old beliefs as far as I am concerned.
It makes sense to me that we have had interactions with other beings and are perhaps a " hybrid" of that interaction. Maybe that was the best thing for us... otherwise we may not have evolved past the simple need to protect ourselves from the elements and to procreate. Why go further than that? Unless another set of expectations is mixed into our cellular structure though our very own DNA.
To look at the stars and wonder? To somehow feel deep inside that there are mysterys waiting to unfold? That is not part of the normal ancient Human makeup. Why would we progress past those initial requirement........Something else made us different.
That interaction has been explained by sages through our history but only to the point where they could understand the incoming information at the time. What makes any of us think that things are different now? We are still seeing a brilliant light through a glass " darkly"
If you take FEAR away from those considerations some of us might be able to realize that this is a great positive situation for all humans... Once we all realize what our heritage and potential actually is...... the doors unlock.
Talking about it is important. The only thing that has ever changed human history is thoughtful talk..... and that we can actually manifest much of our own destiny. For positive outcomes, or negative ones.
Linda Brown
Right on, Linda, we ARE hog-tied by religion, and it IS the reason we havent learned our past. Mostly, because we have mutated truth so badly in deciphering the Bible, and our leaders are worthless in inspring us anymore.
I have read the Bible numerous times, and find it to be very poorly translated, due to the way the story bobs and weaves around, without any real grounding. I guess that's from the massive dose of fragmentation the original writings were subject to, and it was the fault of many translators along the way.
That's why I use the Bible for a research tool for comparison studies, and nothing else.
I had no idea there was an Ancient Alien sort of area on the forums here, I have been so wrapped up in the other features and posts.
Prehistoric civilizations, and peoples, are truly the meat of my interests, along with many other things.
I will keep believing in the one Universal Creator, that started it all, and agree with you that we are just a product of that Beings thoughts.
I will still believe all of the other ideas I have, too , because it all is possible!
Cheers!
Littleenki
Quote from: Captain Dave on February 03, 2012, 10:40:54 AM
Wonder what the translation would be on this:
I would offer the thought that to translate such needs You to think of the universe as an electrical entity.
That RESONANCE is electrically orientated, and that a star is located in a matrix, and that location will be mirrored exactly upon the surface of each other spheroid relative to where it is located itself in that matrix.
That the star can therefore be sort of shorted out by precise resonance been utilised at the location relative to that star.
You then need to think differently about what light actually is, and what creates the light locally, instead of REPEATING the ASSUMPTION that light travels, and at a set speed.
I would offer the thought that light occurs locally relative to opposing field fronts meeting, thus if one of those field fronts is locally diverted the light of the star will not occur locally.
This leads Me to think that there will be life on the sun....our local star, and that Earth will be a very different looking object relative to the view from the sun.
I would strongly recommend reading revelations with such a mindset, it then makes sense.
hobbit
Quote from: hobbit on February 15, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
I would offer the thought that to translate such needs You to think of the universe as an electrical entity.
That RESONANCE is electrically orientated, and that a star is located in a matrix, and that location will be mirrored exactly upon the surface of each other spheroid relative to where it is located itself in that matrix.
That the star can therefore be sort of shorted out by precise resonance been utilised at the location relative to that star.
You then need to think differently about what light actually is, and what creates the light locally, instead of REPEATING the ASSUMPTION that light travels, and at a set speed.
I would offer the thought that light occurs locally relative to opposing field fronts meeting, thus if one of those field fronts is locally diverted the light of the star will not occur locally.
This leads Me to think that there will be life on the sun....our local star, and that Earth will be a very different looking object relative to the view from the sun.
I would strongly recommend reading revelations with such a mindset, it then makes sense.
hobbit
Right on, Hobbit!
I can now see the Sun without emittance of light and it looks like Earth!
It sounds in that passage like my super subwoofer was used again, this time like a death ray to create a black hole. Do you think light just happens, or does it actually move away from it's creation? You are real close I am sure to your description of the star being destroyed like it got pulled forcefully into a near Earth black hole(I think), and from light years away, no less.
The sound of an ARC is really nasty when amplified, and that could be a real good candidate for a voice of god type weapon, couldnt it?
Frickin awesome!
A resonant cannon of sorts, perhaps? That could direct the standing wave anywhere in the universe instantaneously?
I have another favorite for you now, and want to know your take on the book of Ezekiel, and his living creature. It is a great biblical tale that made it through the piss poor editing through the years.
Cheers!
Littleenki 8)
Littleenki,
My birth date is the same as Willian blake,
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://fullhomelydivinity.org/images/angels/cherubim%2520blake.jpg&imgrefurl=http://fullhomelydivinity.org/articles/angels.htm&h=697&w=520&sz=131&tbnid=lpuSZuiBcLqdxM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=70&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dliving%2Bcreature%2Bezekiel%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=living+creature+ezekiel&docid=gYLVp1kh--D35M&sa=X&ei=sBg8T6zAHceA8wPAwPCbCw&ved=0CHIQ9QEwDQ&dur=1766
The four winds, four directions where electrogravitics cross electromagnetics at ninty degrees.
hobbit
Interesting, and BTW mine is September 21ST!Is there anything cool on that day?
Nice link, too, thanks! ;)
Littleenki
Quote from: Littleenki on February 15, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
Interesting, and BTW mine is September 21ST!Is there anything cool on that day?
Nice link, too, thanks! ;)
Littleenki
Holst....Jupiter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUx3G6YHp7Y&feature=related
Was listening to Leonard Cohens Suzanne today also
Yes ...pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otJY2HvW3Bw&feature=related
hobbit
In a set of papers that Dad left behind is this phrase " Where the four points meet". He goes on to say that something amazing will happen.... for years now I have been searching for what and where that might be..... But Hobbit you have probably seen the coordinates more clearly than anyone! Linda
Quote from: hobbit on February 15, 2012, 09:57:38 PM
Holst....Jupiter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUx3G6YHp7Y&feature=related
Was listening to Leonard Cohens Suzanne today also
Yes ...pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otJY2HvW3Bw&feature=related
hobbit
Beautiful, hobbit, simply beautiful!
How I love classical, especially the LSO! and Cohen is a peaceful genius!
Good evening, Hobbit, and good sleep!
Cheers!
Littleenki
Quote from: HeywoodFloyd on February 02, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
This is just a communication for those who are interested.
There is an interesting thread running now on ATS.
A former translator for a Vatican Publisher, named Mauro Biglino, says that most of the Bible is translated in a wrong way.
He re-translated from the original Masoretic Hebrew text, and he found out something stunning:
1.- The Elohim was not a "God" but a group of Extraterrestrial Beings.
2.- Origin of mankind: the Elohim engineered mankind by genetic manipulation,
mixing their own DNA with the DNA of primates already present on the Earth.
(This corresponds 100% with the Sumerian Tablets and Sitchin)
3.- The Elohim are the Anunnaki.
4.- Yahwè was not a "God", but he was simply one of the Elohim/Anunnaki.
And Yahwè was not even one of the most powerful or important, therefore he was neither Enlil, nor Enki.
5.- Yahwè and the Elohim were using spacecrafts on the Earth, and other technology devices.
6.- Biglino says that the Bible does not speak of any GOD whatsoever.
7.- the "Angels" were flesh and bones beings, they were eating, drinking, they needed to wash themselves
I remind that Biglino re-translated the ORIGINAL Biblic text, the Masoretic text, in a literal way.
He wrote 2 books on the subject.
This destroys the Catholic religion, and all the Christian religions,
and puts even Darwin and Evolutionism in jeopardy, and corroborates Sitchin in may parts.
As you can imagine, Biglino was fired by the Vatican Publisher - Edizioni Paoline - as soon he wrote his books.
Here is a video (in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUuEF-_53Q
if you are interested to participate in the discussion on ATS, you can check here:
"Ex-Vatican Translator, Mauro Biglino's Alternative Creation/Translation Theory"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread804314/pg1
I think that zorgon, Amaterasu, Pimander, RUSSO and other members here will be interested.
If some of you want, we can start a thread on the subject here on this Forum, too.
he's wrong about a few of his points. for example,
i don't think we are like the anunnaki. see that was part of the deal. first we were cloned, then we were given procreative abilities and then we were hit with a huge nerf bat. i theorize it went something like this (based on the references in genesis): moses' creation texts in torah, were from both the hebrew and egyptian viewpoints. adam was named after atum and the akkadian adapa. atum was the creator god of the egyptians. it is a plural word. so is adam. so is elohim.
our cloned bodies didn't age. they regenerated fully, any damage, and were easily repaired. new adam/atum were created in the images of the atum gods, otherwise known as the anunnaki or elohim, via cloning. therefore there was no pain in childbirth.
however, in order to make us procreative, enki etc, spliced in some mammal dna, which gave us the ability to "create" new life, like the gods did, in our own images (et. al, we didn't become cloners but we did something
somewhat similar: we made biological copies of ourselves via sexual reproduction). this whole "knowing" thing was pushed off as a sin because it lead to the other elohim deciding, particularly enlil (he was big on environmentalism) that we couldn't be allowed to have fully regenerative, sexually reproductive, mammalian bodies. in effect, the way to the "tree of regeneration (life)" was cut off in our dna. that text in genesis is evidence of the tinkering with our dna.
what makes it a "sin" is that in order to make us procreative, the splicing of mammal dna made us subject to all manner of hormonally driven issues, like animals have. we went from being eternally living clones, cloned in the images of the gods, to temporarily living animals. we were ruled by our hormones, which had drives and instincts related to reproduction and the various ways hormonal imbalances can drive people to do all manner of crazy things, from rape, murder, and etc. i think that explains everything, including the sumerian, egyptian, akkadian, babylonian, sitchin texts, evolution, all of it. we resemble animals biological and in evolutionary terms because we were literally given animal reproductive abilities from pre-existing mammals.
yahweh is jehovah, without a shred of doubt. YHWH is YHVH is JHVH. same dude, etymology variants. however, yahweh was both enlil and enki AND ANU. and anu as far as i can tell was amun (not amun-ra. i think amun-ra is all three mashed into one). amun is amen. he appears countless times in the bible, both old and new testament, and people just assume that it means something like "so mote it be" or whatever. nope. it's addressing the egyptian amen who is amun who is anu.
:D
(i study this stuff ALOT. just ask zorg)
Quote from: undo11 on February 16, 2012, 05:05:08 AM
he's wrong about a few of his points. for example, ...
(i study this stuff ALOT. just ask zorg)
I wish I could give You a star! LOL!
In fact... I frequently find posts that, knee-jerk, I start hunting for the star button! But this one was GREAT! Ten stars for You!
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 16, 2012, 05:38:13 AM
I wish I could give You a star! LOL!
In fact... I frequently find posts that, knee-jerk, I start hunting for the star button! But this one was GREAT! Ten stars for You!
woot. i has stars. :D
i should probably mention that kinda goes hand in hand with terra papers.
whenever an egyptian god is said to be "Self-created" i theorize that's a reference that he/she was a clone provider, one of the atum. and lookie what it says about amun:
"Amun was self created"
yep, wave hi to somebody's papa cloner.
Atum's name is thought to be derived from the word 'tem' which means to complete or finish. Thus he has been interpreted as being the 'complete one' and also the finisher of the world, which he returns to watery chaos at the end of the creative cycle. As creator he was seen as the underlying substance of the world, the deities and all things being made of his flesh or alternatively being his ka.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atum
lol i see anu and enki references all over that description, biblical references galore, and notice the cloner reference, too.
all ya need is one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy8dk5iS1f0
to make all life on the planet. it's a biological computer program.
I rely upon My senses.
From the first instant I saw Your president, I thought of the Egyptians.
You don't suppose that's why it's difficult to prove where He origonated from...do You?
hobbit
Quote from: hobbit on February 16, 2012, 08:15:42 AM
I rely upon My senses.
From the first instant I saw Your president, I thought of the Egyptians.
You don't suppose that's why it's difficult to prove where He origonated from...do You?
hobbit
you think your intellect is a "sense"?
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 02, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
I believe I peeked into that thread before I left ATS. In fact, it surprises Me not at all. In fact, because the word, "Elohim" is so clearly plural - yet translated as "God," singular - I was certain the texts were grossly mistranslated. Other clues were speaking of "We" and One wonders who "God" was talking to when "He" spoke of casting Adam out of the garden lest Adam eat of the tree of life and become a "God" like "Us."
Between the Sumerian Enki tablets and The Terra Papers (though differing widely in events leading up to the genetic creation of Humans), were exact in details of the creation itself - genetic materiel from Enki and Ninhursag being used, as one example - I have had no doubt that Humans are a genetic creation by extraterrestrials.
Other clues lie in the facts that of all the animals on earth, Humans have the largest number of genetic "defects." Animals have 0 to 20ish of these that can be passed on; Humans have over 4,000. And Humans are the only animals that cannot inbreed without high probability of issues in the offspring. Dogs, for example, have been inbred for hundreds of generations, and though issues are seen, after so many generations, Humans may get as far as three generations without major issues appearing.
So... If it was merely evolution that created Us, why would We be created so defectively - so RADICALLY defectively? And if "God" created Us in "His" image...why would "He" create all other species perfectly or nearly so, and Us so genetically disadvantaged?
Yes, I am hoping the scientists who created Us come back and I can speak with them!
(On ATS, My "blurb" said I am "Blood of Ea." Ea, being Enki, gave His genetic material to Me. [smile])
Your last reply shows your wise insight to why we are the way we are. Some of those scientists are the reason your mind shows such powerful tendencies.
When the existing lifeforms on Earth were in their natural state, they were nearly perfect, in a primitive sense. The development of the annunaki offspring was the point where it all went wrong, and the subsequent creation(Us) turned out to be severely flawed as a living being, and there were several versions of us before we were given the power of procreation, and independent thought. These traits were sandwiched in between normal healthy DNA and caused the same effect a bad registry entry does to a computer.
We first were altered to mine gold as Luius, and then Enki (Our father:) decided to do something different this time, and give us the whole package of traits we needed to become advanced like them. The rest is, literally, history.
Of all the books and lengthy tomes of research I have read in my forty six years, none offer the proof of extra terrestrial, and advanced past human technologbis, better than the Bible.
It's just nearly impossible to translate, because it has been altered, and disjointed, to the spotty and incomplete account, that it has become.
Just like the radio signals from WW2 that are just getting to Gliese, we too are awakening to new information.
As far as sending signals to space, whoever we send it to will not see it for a long time, and whatever we see of them will be so old, that it wont matter, anyways.
I do agree with you Zorgon, that we are a product, and that it was a solution to a problem that was not totally thought out by the Annunaki, and as we all know, the changing of mankind's DNA made us different, but not necessarily better!
So, as Littleenki, I say, enjoy my genetic material, but please, dont do anything with it that you wouldnt be proud of. The Annunaki already tried that!:)))
Cheers!
Litleenki
Just occurred to Me I could have posted this here: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1044.0
I'm guessing We were indeed cloned/genetically created.
Quote from: Amaterasu on March 29, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
Just occurred to Me I could have posted this here: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1044.0
I'm guessing We were indeed cloned/genetically created.
Indeed, homey, we are the perfect blend of them and us, arent we?
We are the Lulus' descendants, and those gold mines and the associated living quarters are still there today, west of Maputo!
Sumeria was just one place where the Annunaki gave the gift of the tree of life, and the others around the world are quite obvious to see....Peru, Southwestern US, Mexico....
We're the best they had to offer and we're getting better, right? LOL!
Cheers!
Littleenki