Be on the Lookout
Anon has sent out this message
(http://i.imgur.com/2f4eu.png)
Are they saying, that those that believe in UFO's, are idiots??
Well take your 'Lulz' and stick em where the Sun don't shine ;D
:o
How many factions of "anon" are there?
Zorgon, thanks for the warning, I think I saw one of these threads
somewhere today (not here) already.
Watch for UFO spammers... ::)
Anyone, and I mean Anyone that hacks into someone's computer for the direct intent of doing harm in any shape or form is the lowest form of scum on the earth...IMO 8) just saying ;D
???
well imo
they are saying that they will take all this stuff and on that date blitz the media with all the reports..to convince the world
kinda repeat of orson wells oct 30th war of the worlds thing where folks thought it was real..
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/welles-scares-nation
i've already alerted my 90 yr old mom that if she hears this not to believe it that it's these hacker guys thinking they are cute..
i don't think it's funny at all :(
Well they certainly not doing the UFO community any favors with this one. With all their gaul why not just release government documents and prove it it to the masses instead of having the masses try and fake something into existence...this just seems stupid to me. >:(
Ellirium113
;D
wow..your idea is much better..maybe someone ought to share it with them 8)
I would wonder what else is happening while they are having their " fake UFO landing drill"
Having convinced everyone to look the other way.....
Linda
Quote from: Linda Brown on February 03, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
I would wonder what else is happening while they are having their " fake UFO landing drill"
Having convinced everyone to look the other way.....
Linda,
That is really a very good point.
Its my humble opinion that they have been infiltrated, and are constantly
used for ulteriour purposes of the Gatekeepers.
I dont find them amusing, and honestly wish they would just go away.
Here is wishing abduction on them....
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/ufo1.gif)
The sad thing is that they probably don't even realize that they are someone elses dull tool in this.
" Everytime I see a flash like this on in this hand.... I have a tendency to wonder which battlecruiser is being pulled into place in another direction..while nobody is watching..... ( A very loose translation of a line in Charlie Wilsons War.....)
But so appropriate here that it is.... spooky. Linda
This does erode the credibility of Anon. But... Maybe the whole purpose is to erode the credibility of Anon.
I agree with sky otter (agreeing with Ellirium113) that if Anon wants credibility, They had better find documents that prove the extraterrestrial influence on this planet. I know somewhere the documents are out there.
And I agree with Linda that this is likely a diversional thing. Something will sneak through while everyOne is looking the other way.
Two birds with one stone: discredit Anon, create a diversion. So I doubt this was started by the core of the Anon. They don't seem motivated by mere "lulz." Likely some are using Them.
Internet under Attack? - Check
Bug Red Button Pentagon? - Check
Stupid File Host's that lost any relevance for Piracy a long time ago owned Oddly by a guy named "Kim Dotcom" WTF?? - Check
Anon as stupid. - Check
Its only my silly opinion but I believe ANON are a follow up campaign by spooks to maintain what was created either via a wikileaks campaign.. or to counter it. Beyond my thought to nut it out but there are way too many oddity's in this saga :D
well what better way to say well you crazies..here's your real disclousure a bunch of spooks doing pretend
go back to your little work-a-day lives ..there is no one behind the curtain
but we'll get these guys for ya...
Yeah...." move along.... move along.... theres nothing to be seen here folks"
Linda
the problem is, skeptics, particularly of the atheist variety, see the entire issue of visiting ets and ancient astronaut theory as just a rehash of the bible and other books that talk about beings coming from the sky which all the mainstream public schools teach are fairy tales.
Why is that a problem? For every one of them there are several who have decided that there is SOMETHING out there which is bigger than our understanding of it...... Something which has interacted with us through our history.... and something we have tried to talk about and write about.... to the best of our ability at the time..... in all of our different stories. And the fact that those " Creation stories" are sometimes amazingly similar is a plus, not a minus.
There is always going to be a group that just flat doesn't get it. Thats reality. Not really a problem though, is it? ;D They are only as powerful in your life as you permit them to be. ;) Linda
because people who feel that way are supported by the mainstream communities and the government, so add hacker group with similar agenda, and there you have the problem
imagine the backlash were the "ets" to actually prove most of the world's ancient texts are legit afterall, just suffering from generational misunderstanding. hard core religions would be all over that like peanut butter on a sandwich and the skeptical atheist community would become the brunt of jokes. science would get washed away in a flood of wackiness. this is what happens when civilizations and the mainstream world views of those civilizations, become polarized.
either way whether for or against, somebody's gonna get a whoopin'
because the public at large has polarized themselves to that degree.
Quote from: Linda Brown on February 03, 2012, 07:58:15 PM
Why is that a problem?
There is always going to be a group that just flat doesn't get it. Thats reality. Not really a problem though, is it?
Are you familiar with Anonymous?
Here are two of today's headlines at ATS
Anonymous' hackers intercept conversation between FBI and Scotland Yard on how to deal with hackers
Anonymous Hacks FBI Website After Megaupload Down'This is just the beginning': Hacking group Anonymous takes over Greek Ministry of Justice website
MegaUpload Is Down!! Annoymous Message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCmEpbtZ1dw
This is the kind of stuff they do....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH4yJ30L1o
As you know I am not all that familiar with computer problems.. :-[.. or the threats from hackers. :o I do understand how groups who have their own best interests at heart make sure that nothing threatens them.... watching the way that the Air Force responded to the NICAP reports about " Flying Saucers"in the fifties was an education in itself. I figured that system out when I was just nine! They always had an immediate explanation.... even if it was laughably wrong.... but no one questioned because then if questioned their edict andyou said you had seen anything strange in the sky you could be classified as a " crackpot".... that could cost you your position in your community and even your job.... if you were a scientist and you talked about wild things like that .... they got you where it hurt.... withdrew your funding. As a kid I was ridiculed because I said that men would walk on the moon someday.
The weight of the proper majority was crushing.
But now....mainly because we have gotten into space ourselves... its an entirely different mindset. I just would like to consider that the small steps that are made toward change are positive ones. And you discover that by knowing the entire picture and then making quality choices.... after being well informed.... each person individually can make an enormous difference. Thats what I have decided to believe and work toward.. And thats what Forums like this one help all of us do. Not telling what these discussions in five years will mean. Linda
The problem with Anonymous is that they could be a bunch of hackers all over the world and have no real agenda OR they could be disguised agents... or both
There is no way to tell. Either way the internet is going to be a mess in the near future. All we need to do is be vigilant and hope my server has a strong front door :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqgDzEqdvb0
that video is hard core.
anybody besides me get the creeps watching that video? he says he's just an average guy who doesn't have any money, yet he says there will be mercy to be had for the public. how's he know that ? he's full of poop. if what he says is gonna go down, goes down, the public will be busy kiling each other in a survival of the fittest scenario that'd make the bankers pillaging look like a walk on the beach .
guys like that sound like emperor palpatine. full of dark truth mixed with subtle lies that just piss me the hell off and i'm sorry for swearing. : /
Undo11 said:
Quoteimagine the backlash were the "ets" to actually prove most of the world's ancient texts are legit afterall, just suffering from generational misunderstanding. hard core religions would be all over that like peanut butter on a sandwich and the skeptical atheist community would become the brunt of jokes. science would get washed away in a flood of wackiness. this is what happens when civilizations and the mainstream world views of those civilizations, become polarized.
;D I say to hell with it...release the info...playing all these religions against one another has made the world into nothing but a giant angry hornet's nest...it might be a hell of a storm for a year or so but I think once people got over the shock only then could we get on with bettering our planet.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on February 03, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
Undo11 said:
;D I say to hell with it...release the info...playing all these religions against one another has made the world into nothing but a giant angry hornet's nest...it might be a hell of a storm for a year or so but I think once people got over the shock only then could we get on with bettering our planet.
i'd agree but you're missing one of the ingredients. the people who aren't religious. who've been told that the ancient texts are nonsense fairy tales. entire civilizations with men women and children have been wiped out under the pretext that they weren't suited for living if they believed in invisible sky beings and flying spaghetti monsters. this is gonna be more than a religious issue. it's gonna be an everybody issue.
Quote from: zorgon on February 03, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
The problem with Anonymous is that they could be a bunch of hackers all over the world and have no real agenda OR they could be disguised agents... or both
There is no way to tell. Either way the internet is going to be a mess in the near future. All we need to do is be vigilant and hope my server has a strong front door :D
Well considering the lack of government officials going to jail, all their antics really haven't accomplished anything except furthering the agenda of the globalists to get the internet censored.
@ undo: Of course... There IS a fourth solution. Add abundant free energy!
I have said it before and will, no doubt again: All money represents is meaningful energy expended. One can grasp this most easily by considering the first hunter, fisherperson, gatherer, farmer, miner. The stuff They gained/used was free: critters, fish, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seed, sun, soil, rain, ores. It was the meaningful energy expended that gave "value" to the stuff: the killing, fishing, picking, tilling, weeding, harvesting, mining, transporting.
Add abundantly what money represents - energy - and the need for money (and the control of others it affords) in all its forms (barter, trade, work exchange, coin, bills, electronic funds...) will dissipate and what is left is free.
Add robots to do all the necessary jobs no One wants to do to free energy, and Humans will be freed to follow Their bliss.
Strip the banksters of Their power gently. Add free energy.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 04, 2012, 12:02:56 AM
@ undo: Of course... There IS a fourth solution. Add abundant free energy!
I have said it before and will, no doubt again: All money represents is meaningful energy expended. One can grasp this most easily by considering the first hunter, fisherperson, gatherer, farmer, miner. The stuff They gained/used was free: critters, fish, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seed, sun, soil, rain, ores. It was the meaningful energy expended that gave "value" to the stuff: the killing, fishing, picking, tilling, weeding, harvesting, mining, transporting.
Add abundantly what money represents - energy - and the need for money (and the control of others it affords) in all its forms (barter, trade, work exchange, coin, bills, electronic funds...) will dissipate and what is left is free.
Add robots to do all the necessary jobs no One wants to do to free energy, and Humans will be freed to follow Their bliss.
Strip the banksters of Their power gently. Add free energy.
while it's a wonderful idea, if you look at the big picture, that's not what they have planned, the plan is to blame this entirely on enki and his proponents, just like it was before. this is history, repeating itself.
these buddhist monks are being beaten and tortured for being buddhist monks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-fI3KEgy6c
(no doubt, based on my research, these buddhists are enki people. according to the ring of power video, jesus even went to study with them, which i believe is quite probable, simply because if they are enki people, he was going back to check on them, see their progress and learn what they did with the info they were given.)
that's what every group, even marginally related to enki has to look forward to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF7CLmk3v7s
Every time I think of Tibet, I cannot comprehend why this is allowed to happen. Why does the whole world sit by and watch (like some B grade Sitcom) the degradation of a noble race??
I all can think to say is this:
God knows the number of hairs on your head.
The hairs on your head are all numbered. Luke 12:7
God knows how many stars are in the sky. He knows all their names.
He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name. Psalm 147: 4
Jesus knows everyone of his followers, just as a good shepherd knows his sheep.
I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me. John 10: 14
God knows what we are thinking about. We cannot keep secrets from him.
God knows the secrets of the heart. Psalm 44:21
God knows all things. He knows if we love him.
Lord, you know all things, you know that I love you. John 21: 17
God knows when a little bird falls to the ground.
Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one falls to the ground without God knowing. Mathew 10: 29
Well, the 'little bird' is lying on the ground and we do nothing???
Think of these passages:
"What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and has crowned him with glory and honour." Ps. 8:4-5
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. Hebrews 2:8
Wow! We are only a 'little' lower than the angels (for now) and EVERYTHING is to be placed in subjection to us!
But the underlying clause of all this is: 'But now we see not yet all things put under him'
Why??
The little bird has fallen and you do nothing!
Why would the power of the Universe be placed in your hands if you don't even have the decency to protect your fellow man??
Starwarp
"Why would the power of the Universe be placed in your hands if you don't even have the decency to protect your fellow man??"
Thats probably the test that we are being put to.... How much right do we have to the things that are actually available to us.... if we can't behave in a caring and decent way?
Everytime Amaterasu mentions " free energy" I of course want to dream along with her and only think of the good postitve traits of the feild that has excited her for so long ! She uses the word often and even has a petition to ask the government to release the technology f" from the black"
I am old enough ( thank goodness) to realize that normally for every good thing there is a trade off.... a minus that must be at least considered. I have brought this up before.... asjubg...... what is the minus side of this electrogravitic technology that she wants so badly for the government to release.
I know that I seem to be picking on this phase of Amaterasus passions but I am still trying to understand how she can be so sure that access to the positive benefits of electrogravitation would be worth the possible downside to the technology. Has anyone ever asked about that> That ALONE might be the reason that " THEY" are continuing to hold on to the developments......
Last night a friend of mine called because he was VERY upset over a newscast announcing a " new" kind of b*mb and especially that they even called it by its nam. An Electrohydrodynamic "Pineapple" device that would be able to completely take out the Iranian nuclear cababilities with the force of an atomic blast,( but none of the radiation dangers) He was astounded that this had hit the airways......and of course worried that it fell under " sabre rattling by the United States.... (and it might very well have been.)
This is not a new device. It was developed over thirty years ago and some whispers of it escaped but nothing serious...... Now suddenly it is out in the open....
My friend was one of the two men who helped develop this " device" and he assures me that it is much much more involved that the way that Amaterasu described it...as sort of an overgrown " dynamite"
I promised that I would continue the conversation here on the possibility that the boon of : free energy through electrogravitation would have the recognition also that it has a dark side that must be recognized.
We have to be able to accept the responsibilities here before we get th e benefits.
Has any one else heard of this device, especially recently? Linda Brown
If the Economies were balanced so that money was flowing as it should be, then we would all be happy campers. We can't blame individuals, we need to blame inadequate systems for which we are all responsible.
Free Electricity would be great and also free Education and better worldwide Communication.
We need to build alot of bridges between systems. To throw away what we already have and start from scratch would be a huge waste of time.
If we fix what we already have and repair what doesn't work, we will get to the "good stuff" - ie free electricity etc pretty quickly.
We don't want to cause worldwide failures though, we want to create worldwide successes so one thing must be taken into account before another can occur.
If we cause a change too quickly in a system; without proper foresight and planning we will do more damage than good.
Part of our problem all along had been a lack of proper planning and organization, which in my opinion means there are tons of jobs available to those wishing to help, and well, we have 7 billion people to make it happen.
Obviously just mentioning the 7 Billion person factor brings up the burdon placed on our planet that was never accounted for.
Birth control should be free worldwide just as a start towards bringing balance (not mandatory just Free). Better billions on birth control than billions on government welfare systems or worse starving, unemployed and hopeless. Then we will start reducing some of the burdon on our planet.
Thankyou Linda!
I can see we both 'think' along the same lines. :D
I for one have always weighed up both sides of the coin, in the development and utilisation of, any new technology.
For every 'benevolent' use of such, there is always a 'dark' use that a plenitude of Evil persons on this planet are waiting to get their grubby little hands on.
Take Tesla for instance, he envisioned the use of 'Radiant Energy' for increasing the intelligence of man, the end of sickness, 'free' energy to all, etc., but those on the other side wanted to militarise it.
So, yes i can see the flip side of Electrogravitics: Imagine the power to demolish planets! A power that shouldn't be in the hands of any person!
We all know of the fathers of the Atomic Bomb, and how they, after releasing the 'beast', spent most of their latter years trying to 'put the cat back in the bag', so to speak.
Can you imagine how many great ideas, how many incredible advances in technology have been 'lost, all because that person feared that the introduction of it, would open a gate to the 'Depths of Hell'.
I personally know of a few, and I am sure there are others.
I have only heard of the 'Pineapple Bomb' from this source:
http://constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_01.htm (http://constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_01.htm)
Very scary stuff indeed!
Anon has a government issue sock puppet
Quote from: Linda Brown on February 04, 2012, 04:50:50 AM
Everytime Amaterasu mentions " free energy" I of course want to dream along with her and only think of the good postitve traits of the feild that has excited her for so long ! She uses the word often and even has a petition to ask the government to release the technology f" from the black"
I am old enough ( thank goodness) to realize that normally for every good thing there is a trade off.... a minus that must be at least considered. I have brought this up before.... asjubg...... what is the minus side of this electrogravitic technology that she wants so badly for the government to release.
I know that I seem to be picking on this phase of Amaterasus passions but I am still trying to understand how she can be so sure that access to the positive benefits of electrogravitation would be worth the possible downside to the technology. Has anyone ever asked about that> That ALONE might be the reason that " THEY" are continuing to hold on to the developments......
Linda, here's My thinking. IF We all had access to what We need and virtually all of what We want... Why would any of Us go killing Others?
If the economic pressure was off of Us, if We could do the things We love to do, when We wanted to do them, why would We go picking on Others?
If the costs of things drop and drop as the cost of energy is removed, why wouldn't We choose to go camping, or painting, or educating Ourselves in the stuff that interests Us, or solving problems the BEST way rather than the cheapest or most profitable?
Why wouldn't virtually all of these lovely "fallen caryatids" of Humanity, the weight now lifted from Them, stand and walk tall? ( http://www.phototour.com/echtml/caryatid_3049.html )
Oh, there may be some too twisted to regain Their feet, but They would not have power over Others to induce evil bidding. They lose that without the need for money.
Quote from: Captain Dave on February 04, 2012, 06:25:20 AM
If the Economies were balanced so that money was flowing as it should be, then we would all be happy campers. We can't blame individuals, we need to blame inadequate systems for which we are all responsible.
Free Electricity would be great and also free Education and better worldwide Communication.
We need to build alot of bridges between systems. To throw away what we already have and start from scratch would be a huge waste of time.
If we fix what we already have and repair what doesn't work, we will get to the "good stuff" - ie free electricity etc pretty quickly.
If We had free energy, things would get cheaper and cheaper as the cost of energy was removed all down the line. Eventually the effort to collect the penny for the week's groceries will be more than the penny is worth. And things will be free.
We don't have to "change" things. Just add free energy and things will change in the positive direction on their own.
In energy scarcity, We will NEVER solve the issues of the power elite trying to control the planet. Ever. Period. Only energy abundance will do this.
QuoteWe don't want to cause worldwide failures though, we want to create worldwide successes so one thing must be taken into account before another can occur.
And adding free energy will do just that.
QuoteIf we cause a change too quickly in a system; without proper foresight and planning we will do more damage than good.
No need to change anything but the access to free energy.
QuotePart of our problem all along had been a lack of proper planning and organization, which in my opinion means there are tons of jobs available to those wishing to help, and well, we have 7 billion people to make it happen.
The whole of the problem is the power elite. Adding free energy evens the field. (Money/power (over Others)/energy are three forms of the same thing, much as ice/water/steam are.) I have a piece here, The End of Entropy. It offers an approach to a society with free energy:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=657.msg5785#msg5785
It doesn't require "changes," per se, but a willingness to personally uphold three Laws, and spend 15 minutes a day at a central site... Check it out.
QuoteObviously just mentioning the 7 Billion person factor brings up the burdon placed on our planet that was never accounted for.
Birth control should be free worldwide just as a start towards bringing balance (not mandatory just Free). Better billions on birth control than billions on government welfare systems or worse starving, unemployed and hopeless. Then we will start reducing some of the burdon on our planet.
While I agree birth control should be free (and in abundance EVERYTHING is free), this planet could easily support at least 10 times the present population.
Food: Distributing by profit instead of need leads to such things as supermarkets alone (not counting restaurants and other food facilities) throwing out hundreds of thousands of TONS of food a MONTH. We farm non-organically - and many organic crops outdo their petrochemically "fertilized" brethren. We pay corporate "farmers" to NOT grow food.
If We add new tech, like vertical farming, that may jump to being able to feed 20 or 30 times Our present number.
Statistically, the richer One is, the fewer children One has. Freed from only TV and sex for entertainment, freed to pursue One's bliss, One will have fewer children - and the Ones begat will be loved.
Free energy IS a solution.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on February 03, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
Well they certainly not doing the UFO community any favors with this one. With all their gaul why not just release government documents and prove it it to the masses instead of having the masses try and fake something into existence...this just seems stupid to me. >:(
My thougts exactly >:( why can't they do something useful?
I remember when AT&T gave some german hackers a rough time in 92-94, they shut down the AT&T satellite :o. Now that's what i call fighting back.
Ya or if they really want to fight back and do something useful they can hack into the banks and make all our accounts read $999,999,999,999. All our debt issues SOLVED. ;D
Wish i knew more about computers ;D :P