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Title: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: David Hilton on June 09, 2014, 04:03:32 AM
I'm posting this on here for you guys to see.

Alienscientist decided to put his original video back up. This was temporarily taken down by Edgar Fouche through a fraudulent copyright claim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbCyTlJPgfc


The below narrative is taken directly from the info I posted on the unedited video that I just posted:

Recorded 2-11-2013. This video was originally going to be about an F-15 crash I was researching, but the conversation never turned to it. Edgar Fouche claims he did not know he was being recorded. Edgar Fouche was fully aware he was being recorded. It was a planned recording that he wanted to do. He had a huge red button on Oovoo that advised him that he was being recorded, and told him to press it to end the call if he did not want to be recorded. AlienScientist made a video on his YouTube Channel using parts of this. I'm posting the unedited version here for all to see since many have requested it, and since Edgar Fouche himself decided to slander and libel me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KReD9nyPQpo



Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Gigas on June 09, 2014, 11:08:56 PM
Ed sounds under the influence and looks rather thin and haggered.

I asked him once if he thought he was under mind control and his response was maybe.

Perhaps the day will come when Ed will reveal his part in information dissemination back to when it all began.

Let shotinthedark comment if he so has a need. He was close to Ed.

I see a pattern like I did with so many others who have passed.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Back on June 09, 2014, 11:52:19 PM
I had email contact with ED for a short time.

I do think that he knows more than most. Some from his old site have showed here.

All i know is he got me instredted in the flying triangle ;)

Bless
Back
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: A51Watcher on June 10, 2014, 12:13:22 AM
Seeing Ed get qwerty imprinted on his forehead was mildly amusing.

Perhaps you could arrange the next interview during dinnertime so that when Ed sits back up he has a plate full of spaghetti all over his face.

Or better yet a banana cream pie so he could do the soupy sales bit.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01533/soupy_sales_1533899c.jpg)




Nice to see Dan (Shotinthedark) showing his true colors once again in the 2nd video in the OP at 32:45. 

Doubtful Bob has ever heard his name let alone him having any impact on Bob's life.



Another recent video with Dan with Jeremy has them still expressing fervent hopes of resurrecting his website, and still taking snarky snipes at Bob Lazar at 57:20 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl8p4fRmmNc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl8p4fRmmNc)



Too bad they both drank the Glenn Campbell kool-aid.



Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: astr0144 on June 10, 2014, 06:49:43 AM
If what is said is true about what happened with Ed Fouche and Alienscientist...It certainly seemed to have caused a lot of problem for those involved...and if Ed F was acting with disinfo... it is disappointing to find out...

It seems like maybe they plan to set A.S back up in some form.

From what I recall, with their comments on Bob Lazar, they made some valid points, to question the story further, but I could not fully agree with their analysis..or that maybe their points made some sense,like questioning Bobs education claims, but that did not  convince me alone that what Bob claimed in terms of his UFO / Alien story could not be true.

There could be several reasons why they may employ Bob even if he was not high enough  in terms of what would be expected of his  education background.

I don't know if they got to see A51s /  & Sanders Videos of Bobs film and images...as to what they may have made of that !

I am curious about their indication that Dr Judy Wood  "Star wars ray gun" in relation to 9/11 as being debunked..
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: rdunk on June 10, 2014, 07:20:08 AM
I watched this when it was first posted - Ed obviously was very much under some influence and very obviously being taken advantage of by those doing the interviewing. I don't know the truth of the matter, but it is obvious that the same information/disinformation that has strained other sites has been brought here for much of the likewise back and forth.

I don't really care who is right or wrong - but if I were Z, I would promptly take it down, as I see absolutely no benefit to the continuation of this heavy ongoing long-term argument on this site!!

uh uh, IMHO!!
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 10, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: A51Watcher on June 10, 2014, 12:13:22 AM
Seeing Ed get qwerty imprinted on his forehead was mildly amusing.

Perhaps you could arrange the next interview during dinnertime so that when Ed sits back up he has a plate full of spaghetti all over his face.

Or better yet a banana cream pie so he could do the soupy sales bit.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01533/soupy_sales_1533899c.jpg)




Nice to see Dan (Shotinthedark) showing his true colors once again in the 2nd video in the OP at 32:45. 

Doubtful Bob has ever heard his name let alone him having any impact on Bob's life.



Another recent video with Dan with Jeremy has them still expressing fervent hopes of resurrecting his website, and still taking snarky snipes at Bob Lazar at 57:20 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl8p4fRmmNc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl8p4fRmmNc)



Too bad they both drank the Glenn Campbell kool-aid.
The 2 parts of the video you speak of me talking about Lazar this was filmed in Feb of 2013. Now my position on Lazar is this. My opinion is known to change if new evidence is put forward and I have been wrong many times.

I have entertained the possibility that Bob Lazar was a Patsy and shown things on purpose so he would tell John Lear right away and the information would get out.

The other possibility is this that Bob fooled everyone who believes him just like his degrees he never had from CalTech and MIT. I removed any and all comments on YouTube and on forums debunking Lazar because of the following.

And the 2nd video Jeremy was talking about Lazar and he brought it up not myself I was a last second fill in for that show and didn't even know what the topic was till 5 minutes before the show.

-You can't prove Lazar is telling the truth 100%

-And I can't prove Lazar is lying 100%.

Look my name up on YouTube and try to find anywhere where I trashed Lazars story the last one was the 1.5hr video of Lazar at "The Little Alien" where he could not remember when he graduated from MIT and couldnt remember any of his professors which to me doesn't make any sense whatsoever being those professors play a major role in your life when getting work and using them as references.

I should not had used the term ruined Bob life I have had no impact on his life. I was referring to something Ed had said on The AS forum, about Bobs wife Carol who had committed suicide and Ed had said something terrible and I asked him to take it down a number of times and I was thrown off the AS Forum not long after that.

As far as Ed goes on here I'm not here to defend him one bit Ed started several fights at once with a number of people and now the consequences of those fights are what we see here online. You see me grill Ed on this video because I'm a truth chaser I don't care if you're Bob Lazar , Dan Burisch or Edgar Fouche if I find out your lying and I'm talking to you I'm going to get in your face its just the way I am.

Ask David Hilton I came to his defense because Edgar FOuche put out a BS story about David and Ed guaranteed me 100% it was a true story and when the time came he would show the world the story was true well he hasnt come up with anything Ed that is and we haven't spoken since and that was weeks ago.

One last thing when it comes to Ed Fouche there are some kind of massive Triangles that have been flying all over the place since the 1970s and I along with many others want to know what they are. Are they ours? Or are they another countries? Or are they from some other place bottom line is they exist.

Any questions feel free to ask I will get back to you as soon as I can. Thanks.  8)

Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Sinny on June 10, 2014, 11:56:35 AM
Something about Lazar will never sit right with me..
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 10, 2014, 12:27:31 PM
Another comment I would like to make is there are several close friends I should say allies good people who think Edf has had me under mind control for some time now.  Some others who have supported the TR-3B have been Clarke McClelland who claims it used to follow the shuttle around and he has no clue who Ed FOuche is and 2 others who I am not at liberty to speak about.

One thing odd about the following people

-Edgar Fouche
-Robert Scott Lazar
-Daniel Burisch/Crain

All 3 of them have been able to talk about Area-51 and say about all these programs going on out there in special locations. One may say S-4 another may say The DARC Facility which stand for Defense Advanced Research Center. Which I actually think exists you may know it as Sandia I have been all over the  range many times finding all kinds of different places.

How do these guys all these guys get away with speaking about the most classified projects ever?? I have had one major scientist back up the Triangle claim but I will never mention his name in public but what he said was interesting because from what I had got from his was its not The UNited States its another countries and I don't think anyone has ever thought that before ever.

So was Edgar Fouche a plant to put it in the minds of everyone that this Triangular craft was The United States ultra secret program when its someone elses? I don't know and like the Lazar case something went on at the location known as the Nellis AF Range and R 4808N AFFTC DET-3. I think thats where the real Space Program was located at one time on the vast area of land which is huge . I'm not talking about the 10 mile by 6 mile Area-51 Im talking about that humongous location known as The Nellis Range.

I think if Lazar is a Patsy and is telling the truth I think he was tricked into thinking where he was would be what Bob calls S-4 at Papoose. I had a very intellectual insider scientist tell me he believed Lazar was a controlled leak.
I hope Bobs telling the truth .

As far as Ed I think he destroyed himself on this video although he was drunk and had been up all night this was filmed at 8am. So to Area51Watcher instead of QWERTY being on Eds head maybe it should had been dippy eggs Ha.

Or is it possible that all these stories have been invented to cover up the fact that The Tall Whites of Indian Springs now called Creech AFB name changed when Halls Books came out. Is it possible? Ask yourself that question ? Is it possible that a cover up has been taking place for years because of The Tall Whites?

Are51Watcher I respect you a great deal and was amazed at your video you filmed that from over 20 miles away correct? In my opinion it looks more like the Charles Hall Tall Whites Scout Craft. Possible the mothership is in fact a giant flying silent Triangle.

Here is where you filmed your videos and the Talls main Hanger is right in this path of location and I mean exactly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aLCqcfE2yQ

Heres a Map of the Talls main Hanger area it labeled Entrance Camouflaged at the very top of the GE Picture.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x471/bigpappy51/GoogleEarth_Image_zpsd7fd1d5a.jpg)

A Picture below of The Tall Whites Scout Crafts.

(http://openseti.org/images/SCcomp.jpg)
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 10, 2014, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 10, 2014, 06:49:43 AM


I am curious about their indication that Dr Judy Wood  "Star wars ray gun" in relation to 9/11 as being debunked..

I want to make something very clear here. Just because I know Jeremy Rys (AlienScientist) does not mean I support his Theories on 9/11 whatsoever and any other conspiracy theory about 9/11 for that matter.

And the video being referred to it was not scheduled I called Jeremy on skype we had not talked in a long time and he asked me if I could fill in on his weekly broadcast he lost a guest and I said sure and that was at about 5 to 8 minutes before the show I had been playing guitar.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: astr0144 on June 10, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
Hi Dan,

I appreciate your comments, suggestions and explanations on this thread..

Hopefully will raise a few more points of further discussion on what to me are some of the things that most interest myself.
(These certainly are of high interest along with some other related UFO / Alien topic threads)

With Ref to the Videos and images that have been researched and produced by various members along with A51 Watcher..
If I recall at least one , I would have thought would NOT be a Tall Whites craft.

It may be that you did not get to see it as it has been removed for the time being.

But your suggestions are certainly Thought provoking and Interesting.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 10, 2014, 03:33:23 PM
I saw it was filmed from about 22 miles away or more. And he had sent me a copy of the video on here awhile back and he had it digitized it was very neat but to me it looked like a craft larger then what Lazar described . It looked like a white oval. I noticed its gone from the forum and his YouTube account any reason why that is?
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: astr0144 on June 10, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
Not sure why it was removed. It may just be temporary.

One did have a partial oval shape, but another if I recall was another shape..The Jello Mold I think they described it as.

There appeared more than one or two type of craft that had been filmed between what Bob and A51 Watcher filmed...There are others who caught similar film as well, but I don't think that they have been created  by Sanders special software as yet or at least have not been posted that I am aware.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: David Hilton on June 10, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
I wouldn't be too hard on Dan because of his association with Ed Fouche. You really have to have close access to Ed in order to understand. Ed will get into your head, and manipulate you into saying or thinking whatever he wants you to say or think. He uses his close friend as assets to promote his agenda. Once you break free of him, he will find anyway he can to discredit you, as he has tried to do to me on the Outpost Forum. As a matter of fact my posting of this video is direct retaliation for a particularly vile lie he was spreading about me through email.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: spacemaverick on June 10, 2014, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: rdunk on June 10, 2014, 07:20:08 AM
I watched this when it was first posted - Ed obviously was very much under some influence and very obviously being taken advantage of by those doing the interviewing. I don't know the truth of the matter, but it is obvious that the same information/disinformation that has strained other sites has been brought here for much of the likewise back and forth.

I don't really care who is right or wrong - but if I were Z, I would promptly take it down, as I see absolutely no benefit to the continuation of this heavy ongoing long-term argument on this site!!

uh uh, IMHO!!

I agree....
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Gigas on June 10, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
Quote from: ShotInTheDark on June 10, 2014, 12:59:59 PM
I want to make something very clear here. Just because I know Jeremy Rys (AlienScientist) does not mean I support his Theories on 9/11 whatsoever and any other conspiracy theory about 9/11 for that matter.

And the video being referred to it was not scheduled I called Jeremy on skype we had not talked in a long time and he asked me if I could fill in on his weekly broadcast he lost a guest and I said sure and that was at about 5 to 8 minutes before the show I had been playing guitar.

Hey superstar, I saw all those rock god guitars and amp in the background. I didn't know you were a guitar rockstar. What a you all got there????

Peace bro............
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: A51Watcher on June 11, 2014, 03:03:44 AM

Dan -


You seem surprised by my comments and your various attempts at justification did nothing to address the issue.

So I will spell it out for you, exactly why several of us on Pegasus are curious about your words and deeds.


First there is the Dan we see on Pegasus -

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New Restoration Greetings!!!
« on: July 30, 2012, 07:14:11 PM »

  I recognize many people here I am formerly BigPappy51. He was demolished and was restored as ShotInTheDark 8)

I want a fresh start and would like to say sorry to the following people and hope to squash any issues if we had any.

Bob Lazar your the real deal Im sorry for what I had written about you on another forum.  I was mislead but only have myself to blame for that I apologize.

To the great John Lear who I respect and admire bigtime John Your The Man!! And to Zorgon I really appreciate you giving me a chance to be myself again and not the shadow of another person!!!!  What a great forum Thank you all for having me  :)  8) !!

DanB
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Re: Scandal Report
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2012, 08:26:42 PM »

I have and asked for forgiveness from the people on this forum if I had ever pissed off anyone. I am here to start all back over again which is not easy but i have found a nice rhythm on here. I will make more posts on here in a month then I did the whole year on AS.

I deeply regret anything things I may had said or debunkings I may had been a part of.

I found out a formulas that seems to work. If you look at who Ed debunks the most like Lazar they are the real deal. Also Fouche has many accounts under different names where hes all over the internet talking about Lazar and Burisch but mainly Lazar.

The more I have seen and same with Primus it seems Ed stole Bobs story...


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Then there is the Dan we see making videos with his buddies (during the same time period as the above messages) saying the exact opposite.

Can you see why you appear a bit 2 faced?


We read your words on Pegasus, then hear completely different words in recordings with your buddies.

So have you recently discovered some amazing new information about Bob that has changed your mind that you neglected to tell us about, or, are you afraid to admit to your buddies that you have changed your mind about Bob, or were you just blowing smoke up our a ss the whole time here playing us for suckers?



Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: A51Watcher on June 11, 2014, 03:31:02 AM


Another amusing point in your video with Jeremy -

You bemoan the fact that kids with 1 year under their belt watching YT videos think they know it all and try telling you whats what, whose views you find juvenile and lacking discernment, and also lacking your whole 10 years experience investigating.

What do you think those of us here with 50+ years investigating think of your views?

Bout the same.

We just don't make videos whining about it.




Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: A51Watcher on June 11, 2014, 03:52:59 AM
And finally, I don't give a rats' ass if you or anyone else believes Bob. Help yourself. No skin off my nose.

As a matter of fact, 'Pass it around' as Bob says.

But for gods sake at least be on the level with me, and everyone else here.


Sinny doesn't like Bob either, for some reason even she can't put a finger on, but at least I can trust her to be up front with me and tell me the truth, and we agree to disagree.


And as for Bob himself, HE would now prefer you don't believe him, and to please pass it around!

He has a few messages aimed directly at debunkers in this additional video clip from the recent KLAS 25th anniversary special -


http://www.8newsnow.com/category/28259/8-news-now-video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10165200 (http://www.8newsnow.com/category/28259/8-news-now-video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10165200)




Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 11, 2014, 05:51:08 AM
Quote from: Gigas on June 10, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
Hey superstar, I saw all those rock god guitars and amp in the background. I didn't know you were a guitar rockstar. What a you all got there????

Peace bro............
I ll email you some pictures I have a ton of gear amps guitars been playing 25 years. If you name the brand I either have or had it.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 11, 2014, 08:12:10 AM
Area51Watcher I can understand where you are coming from. Now lets get a few things straight here. When I was talking to Ed and saying about how we bashed Lazar this was in on Feb 2 2013. I had been thrown off the Alien Scientists Forum from Edgar Fouches directions to David Hilton and others was to eliminate me that was June 6 2012.

One of the reasons Ed wanted me gone is because I used my own moderation privileges and removed all bashing of anyone that I had done. To name the people I had bashed on The AS forum was Dan Burisch and Bob Lazar. And Ed got pissed and said I was going to ruin the forum so my mod privileges were taken and I was kicked off. Plus I was investigating Ed at the time because he has major holes in his story. David Hilton would you care to comment on Ed directing you to throw me off the forum??

Now we go ahead a month after I was thrown off I had asked Zorgon if I could come here I made amends with people involved and apologized that was back in July of 2012. Now by this time all the Lazar garbage I had written was all gone for sure from The AS Forum.

The part you speak about in the video took place in Feb of 2013 this is not a new video and I was referring to the bashing of Lazar and how Ed deserved payback because of the garbage he wrote about Bobs one wife on the AS forum which was threads that Ed wrote back in 2012 before I was kicked off the forum well before. Maybe I should not had said that but Ed was so drunk and who would had known this video would had become a topic.

To address The Alienscientist Video he and I have definitely had our own problems me him and David Hilton have all had our own problems but when we all sat down and discussed everything we found one common denominator who was pitting ourselves against each other we could write a book about all of thia ask David Hilton. Alienscientist I called him on a Saturday afternoon at 3:50 and he asked me if I could fill in on his weekly show because his guest bailed. We winged it I didnt know the topic till 5 minutes prior you can see I'm in my jamm room my amps and guitars are everywhere. I small comment is made at the end about the slices of 115 I'm guilty as charged I think I said why would they need to be machined when the model shows they are flat pieces. And I'm referring to the model of the Antimatter Element 115 reactor that John Lear has and displayed on UFO Hunters.

All I said in The video with Jeremy and he brought Lazar up not me is that about The Element 115 slices at the end of the video. I am well aware of the Bob Lazar videos of him at the Atomic Museum I posted them in several areas and thought it was cool. If it were not for Lazar in 1989 when I was in High School I don't know that my interest in UFOs would had been what it once was.

So yes I am guilty in the past in 2012 of attempting to debunk Bob Lazar. There is nothing written anywhere about Lazar that I have said since the forum that you can find I have said bashing the guy or attempting to debunk him. Bob says he likes the debunkers and wishes the story would go away.

On a sidenote my mother I had taken care of for the past 7 years or so passed away a few months ago and I haven't been posting because I'm just not into it anymore. Astro144 knows what I have been going through for the past several years taking care of my mother so she would not have to be put in a Nursing Home and others David Hilton Mark Woodson many others.

I will say this if you guys want me to I will resign from here and quit the forum if you think Im 2 faced you don't seem to understand the time frame correctly and thats not your fault at all. Like I said you cant find a forum that is after the date I was kicked off of AS where I badmouth Lazar look for it look on YouTube. The story has become rather boring to me and Ufology has so many liars and frauds that I have lost alot of my old interest I had. Sorry I don't have your 50 years experience you can have all the experience you want does that mean you are an expert ? No it doesn't none of us are.

You know I cant be too bad a guy when Zorgon was having Financial issues and had a GoFundme I gave him a donation and my friend Mark Woodson also he was a member here a while back and at the time I couldn't afford much but I knew he needed help so I gave and I will give again. What surprised me was he has this large forum and yet not many helped him Im glad to say I did. I cant be that bad a person.

I wish all of you well and thanks for having me here Zorgon and John Lear.
Take Care everyone.  8)  Signing off
ShotInTheDark
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: A51Watcher on June 11, 2014, 08:43:50 AM


Dan -

Thanks for the clarification.

Again, all I ask is being up front regardless of what side of an issue your on.

Mocking Bob about the chips of E-115 was a much more recent video, so I of course was WTF?


Point of clarification - they had to be machined because E-115 comes in bricks, and need to be cut in slices and machined down to triangles.

Which the workers are told are for aircraft parts.


No need to resign, even if you don't believe Bob, that's not a crime around here.


As far as number of years of research under the belt, I was pointing out how from another perspective, you guys were the pot calling the kettle black.

Regarding Bob's education - he says they were erasing all his records, including education, past jobs, and even his birth certificate.

George Knapp found proof of some of this.

EG&G lied and said they never heard of him.

George found him right there in the company phonebook.

Current employees told George they knew him and remembered him working on the particle accelerator, just as he had told George.


Now how is a guy with no education going to be put to work on their behemouth multimillion dollar particle accelerator?

The erasure of past history was pretty thorough in most areas, just the lunkheads at EG&G forgot the phonebooks.


Anyway sorry to hear about your Mom.


Hope you recover soon.




Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 11, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
Quote from: A51Watcher on June 11, 2014, 08:43:50 AM

Dan -

Thanks for the clarification.

Again, all I ask is being up front regardless of what side of an issue your on.

Mocking Bob about the chips of E-115 was a much more recent video, so I of course was WTF?


Point of clarification - they had to be machined because E-115 comes in bricks, and need to be cut in slices and machined down to triangles.

Which the workers are told are for aircraft parts.


No need to resign, even if you don't believe Bob, that's not a crime around here.


As far as number of years of research under the belt, I was pointing out how from another perspective, you guys were the pot calling the kettle black.

Regarding Bob's education - he says they were erasing all his records, including education, past jobs, and even his birth certificate.

George Knapp found proof of some of this.

EG&G lied and said they never heard of him.

George found him right there in the company phonebook.

Current employees told George they knew him and remembered him working on the particle accelerator, just as he had told George.


Now how is a guy with no education going to be put to work on their behemouth multimillion dollar particle accelerator?

The erasure of past history was pretty thorough in most areas, just the lunkheads at EG&G forgot the phonebooks.


Anyway sorry to hear about your Mom.


Hope you recover soon.
Hey A51 watcher I appreciate that . Thank You . Its not that I don't believe Lazar parts of the puzzle dont fit. But my personal belief is he was a patsy shown technology to leak it to the world through John Lear if that makes sense to you.

I've been saying that for a while now its a controlled leak that fits. Bob would not had known. Also in the past 6 months I saw an interview with Col. John Alexander where he stated he found out Lazar was at Area51 for 22 Days and I was like what did he just say?? I have to try to find it.

Thanks for your kind words about my mother she was my hero I am still devastated by her passing and have been away from all of this for a while she had not been well and me and my one brother did everything to keep her home and not go in6to a nursing home and its been a tough last couple years very tough. ASTO144 knows he and I have had a number of private conversations.

I apologize again if I have ever offended anyone on here. That was never my intention. I came here with a new outlook get rid of Bigpappy51 create a new start with ShotInThe Dark and focus on The Charles Hall and The Tall Whites story which I find fascinating even if it turns out to be BS. I have also apologized to Zorgon and   John Lear when I first came back and I deleted anything I had ever written about Lazar on YouTube if someone finds anything let me know it will be gone quickly.

I guarantee you if Bob is proven right like Jeremy said in that video we will be the first to completely kiss his ... I hope he is right.

ShotInTheDark
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Sinny on June 11, 2014, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: ShotInTheDark on June 11, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
Its not that I don't believe Lazar parts of the puzzle dont fit. But my personal belief is he was a patsy shown technology to leak it to the world through John Lear if that makes sense to you.

I've been saying that for a while now its a controlled leak that fits.

My sentiments also...
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: ShotInTheDark on June 11, 2014, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: Sinny on June 11, 2014, 10:43:47 AM
My sentiments also...
Have some gold my friend. I dont want anyone to hate me because of the puzzle and Bob own behavior and answers at The 1.5 hr video at "The Little Alien" I find very strange. I will say this I think Bob Lazar is brilliant I think he is a self taught nerd. Some of the most intelligent people I have ever worked with in the electronics field never had one day of schooling. Most of what you will learn is from tinkering around with different circuits or in Bobs case the guy had a Jet Car for goodness sakes you have to want an adrenaline high for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HINu6qBYkTs

I will state again I think Bobs a genius for sure and also a perfect candidate for a patsy for the fact that his background is very controversial. So TPTB could debunk him if needed and when it backfired remember the CIA put out a memo saying they had been using the UFO story as a cover for many years to cover up classified programs.

One thing that I will say that none of you may have heard of before is this and I think Im accurate on this and I cant say why. What many have perceived as what is called MJ-12 is in fact  "The Department OF NAVAL Intelligence" Yes The DNI well many have said its "The Office of NAVAL INtelligence" The ONI yes their is an ONI .

The 2 DNI and ONI have absolutely nothing to do with each other at all. The ONI is Ultra secret and it is MJ12. How did Lazar know all the way back then that The DNI existed? He was told and there is the controversial W-2 which I find interesting.
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: The Seeker on June 11, 2014, 12:32:21 PM
Shot, sorry to hear about your mother; I lost mine 20 years ago after a 3 year battle with cancer...

As for Bob Lazar, I leave everyone to form their own opinions... but the man did build a particle accelerator in his backyard in Nevada, and has developed a hydrogen fuel system that will work on any vehicle that the PTB is blocking release of...

But I have seen one of his ID badges... is very similar to one I have(been expired since '09) that gave me access to quite a few places scattered across the south that I did work at...

I also wish to point out that many have made the statement that the PTB is more concerned about what you can prove, not what is just being discussed...


seeker
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 11, 2014, 12:50:55 PM
Quote from: the seeker on June 11, 2014, 12:32:21 PM

I also wish to point out that many have made the statement that the PTB is more concerned about what you can prove, not what is just being discussed...


seeker

Saying 'Hey there are UFO'S flying at A51', and taking someone out there to actually SEE a test flight, is not the same thing...the latter will definitely garner attention.

Rock  ;)
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: astr0144 on June 11, 2014, 05:18:52 PM
I am late in seeing the recent posts,
I have not read things in full as yet.. It may be later before I have fully caught up...

But ...I can see that a few things had been discussed between A51 Watcher and Dan (Shot in the Dark)...with regards to Bob Lazars story.

From what I recall, Dan has questioned certain things about the story and in my opinion has raised some very valid points and had spent quite some time and effort really trying to research the story..like he also did for the "Tall whites" which I also found very interesting.

Like many things hes been up and down on his views like we all are at times on various things...

I have appreciated his comments and queries and they have certainly made people think or question things..

At the same time as we have seen A51 Watchers work....after studying it...for me so far , it has given me more faith in Bobs story...which I will be honest and say I would be disappointed if it was at some time found to be untrue...For me its one of the best story's that I have come across.

But I appreciate seeing things asked about it.. and theories and queries about it...


The recent videos / images from the Video / Photo expert team/s has been remarkable in my opinion.

I do know that Dan has been going through a very difficult time in the last year or more and that he had not been posting too much as a result and could not possibly at certain times pay attention to some of the videos with his mind been so distracted.  He recently came back to PRC to try and get his mind of things....and for some time had not even answered any emails...I had not known what he had been going through for a certain time....I Hope that he can get over it and recover back to some normality if its ever possible in relevant time...

I hope you guys do not fall out about it...what ever happens..and can appreciate each others views..
Title: Re: Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*
Post by: Gigas on June 11, 2014, 10:31:09 PM
Ed got really mad at me once cause I was making trouble over at the nexus 2012 BS forum. It really wasn't trouble cause I was only demanding answers to why a thread about Dan Burish and somebody in his entourage being murdered, got deleted.

You can go over their for entertainment purposes if you dare and see the thread under Gigas and with your open mind see the battle that ensued and how I was gange banged about the thread. Truth be known the gang bang was the mods and they tried to stifle me so I had to throttle back my writings.

One of the light bulbs went off there at nexus 2012 and some one asked if I was the same Gigas over there at Alien Scientist forum and for my sake I never answered the question cause it doesn't matter where I was or have been see, cause I am acting in the here and now capacity of Gigas on the 2012 nexus network and not representing Alien Scientist.

So the network of behind the scenes nexus 2012 activity calls over to Alien Scientist to forensically match my IP at nexus 2012 to the IP Gigas was tagged with at Alien Scientist. AND, they matched. Of course they matched, why not, I had nothing to hide so what the F's the problem. Oh ya, I asked a question that got 2012 all in a bundle over my charming inquiry.

They didn't like that and soon enough I get an email from Ed at Alien Scientist asking WTF, thats our friends what are you doing. Well ya, their your friends, not mine and why are they draggin Alien Scientist admins into their s h i t. Of course, they wanted to shut me up thats why.

HAHAHAHA, what a day that was.