'Lost World' reached: 20 million yr old Antarctic lake 'drilled'
Scientist have finally drilled through to the lost lake under Antartica. Now let us see what they find!
From rt.com
http://rt.com/news/antarctic-million-secrets-lake-583/
Thank you, spacemaverick!
Great Find!
There is an article also on Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/06/russian-scientists-reach-buried-antarctic-lake-vostok/
for those who are interested, the thread on ATS discussing Lake Vostok drilling completed
is here:
Russian scientists reach buried Antarctic Lake Vostok
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread806014/pg1
I look forward to any reports! Of course...if They find evidence of ancient civilizations or ET's, it will be suppressed.
Let's hope not.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
I look forward to any reports! Of course...if They find evidence of ancient civilizations or ET's, it will be suppressed.
Let's hope not.
It won't be suppressed...it will be reverse engineered and released into the masses as the next killer biowarfare trick to get us all pumped for taking the next round of vaccines. ::)
They couldn't wait to weaponize the bird-flu, I am certain in a year we'll have found out about what they made from the viruses etc. down there.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
I look forward to any reports! Of course...if They find evidence of ancient civilizations or ET's, it will be suppressed.
Let's hope not.
I'm afraid that anything truly significant will be kept under wraps.
The 2 key questions are:
1.- Which is the heat source that warms Lake Vostok up to 68°F ?
2.- What is the "thing" that generates the magnetic anomaly at Lake Vostok?
I have some ideas about this, but I guess we shall never have the true answers...
Which is your take? or speculation?
The Lost World of Lake Vostok
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-world-of-lake-vostok/
This is a playlist for the lost world of Lake Vostok. A background on the find etc...
Quote from: spacemaverick on February 06, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
'Lost World' reached: 20 million yr old Antarctic lake 'drilled'
Scientist have finally drilled through to the lost lake under Antartica. Now let us see what they find!
From rt.com
http://rt.com/news/antarctic-million-secrets-lake-583/
20 million yrs ago, wow!, that would put it in the Early Miocene... interesting to see what this brings.
The current Continental Drift Theories put Antarctica in the South, but more recent ones, put it it on the Equator.
Will be interesting to see if this doesn't match the current theories, whether they will bury the findings or not!
Some interesting theories regarding the Lake Vostok area. Many of these have been heard before. Nothing can be substantiated but makes for interesting read.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica09.htm
"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.
The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject - it wasn't that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.
Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:
"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."
The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.
Nor is the USGS planet-bound - their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus."
The above quote came from the link above.
Quote from: HeywoodFloyd on February 07, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
I'm afraid that anything truly significant will be kept under wraps.
The 2 key questions are:
1.- Which is the heat source that warms Lake Vostok up to 68°F ?
2.- What is the "thing" that generates the magnetic anomaly at Lake Vostok?
I have some ideas about this, but I guess we shall never have the true answers...
Which is your take? or speculation?
I might presume geothermal on #1. But I don't give it 100% probability. Could be something far more interesting... Alien v. Predator?
Quote from: spacemaverick on February 08, 2012, 01:48:23 AM
Some interesting theories regarding the Lake Vostok area. Many of these have been heard before. Nothing can be substantiated but makes for interesting read.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica09.htm
"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.
The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject - it wasn't that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.
Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:
"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."
The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.
Nor is the USGS planet-bound - their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus."
The above quote came from the link above.
Never heard of this. I think its significant information when talking about the arctic in relation to all the conspiracies. thanks!
Quote from: spacemaverick on February 08, 2012, 01:48:23 AM
Some interesting theories regarding the Lake Vostok area. Many of these have been heard before. Nothing can be substantiated but makes for interesting read.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica09.htm
"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.
The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject - it wasn't that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.
Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:
"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."
The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.
Nor is the USGS planet-bound - their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus."
The above quote came from the link above.
Loved the link! Thanks SM
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 08, 2012, 06:04:12 AM
I might presume geothermal on #1. But I don't give it 100% probability. Could be something far more interesting... Alien v. Predator?
I bet on your 2nd... something along those lines.
Fact #1 is they hide something.
(see also the previous post by spacemaverick - interesting!!)
Quote from: spacemaverick on February 08, 2012, 01:48:23 AM
"The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that "someone" or "something" was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica.
Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner's response was startling:
"Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS."
The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale.
Fact #2 is they spent tens of millions of $$ in all the drilling.
(and those guys do not spend those amounts just for fun...)
Fact #3 is they took 22 years for the drilling
(something smells here)
zorgon reported in a post on ATS that the overall age of the ice cap above Lake Vostok
is just 420,000 years, not 20 MILLION !! - zorgon posted ice core samples data.
(why now they lie? Why do they now spread this unsubstanciated figure of 20 million years?)
Quote from: HeywoodFloyd on February 07, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
1.- Which is the heat source that warms Lake Vostok up to 68°F ?
2.- What is the "thing" that generates the magnetic anomaly at Lake Vostok?
I have some personal ideas and hints that the ice cap could be even less than that - let's say 12,000 years - but this is another topic, for another thread.
What could be under Lake Vostok producing those 2 anomalies?
Let me go wild, speculating...
I think could be one of these:
1.- An ancient Alien Spaceship buried there for 12,000 years (or more)
2.- A sort of "Electromagnetic Beacon" (the scenario of "2001: A Space Odyssey" - the Monolith)
In case this is the truth, we shall never know. You can bet.
(Unless some insider gives us some hints...)
Didn't they make a couple of movies about this? First one in the 50's, with James Arness as the 'creature'..... ;) ;D 8)
What could be under Lake Vostok producing those 2 anomalies?
Let ME go wild, speculating...
Lake Superior has some of the same traits and has huge deposits of hemitite and other ores
so using that as a basis
if a huge meteor crashed there way back it could even be minerals or other things yet unknown to
us. or it could even be a funnel to the hot earth core..if there is such a thing..
that's my wild hypothesis
http://books.google.com/books?id=mQcNAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=strange+magnetics+of+lake+superior&source=bl&ots=Im_GmMT-n7&sig=fnkUGMMc88QdsF8crwzc7_Kan2Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lPIxT47CAerLsQLxhbXzBg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=strange%20magnetics%20of%20lake%20superior&f=false
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;D front page today
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/russia10.jpg)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46309166/ns/technology_and_science-science/
Russian scientists reach lake under Antarctica
Gigantic freshwater reservoir may harbor life from Earth's distant past
By Vladimir Isachenkov
updated 1 hour 47 minutes ago 2012-02-08T17:10:57
Print Font: +-MOSCOW — After more than two decades of drilling in Antarctica, Russian scientists have reached the surface of a gigantic freshwater lake hidden under miles of ice for some 20 million years — a lake that may hold life from the distant past and clues to the search for life on other planets.
Reaching Lake Vostok is a major discovery avidly anticipated by scientists around the world hoping that it may allow a glimpse into microbial life forms, not visible to the naked eye, that existed before the Ice Age. It may also provide precious material that would help look for life on the ice-crusted moons of Jupiter and Saturn or under Mars' polar ice caps where conditions could be similar.
"It's like exploring another planet, except this one is ours," Columbia University glaciologist Robin Bell told The Associated Press by email.
......
"There is no other place on Earth that has been in isolation for more than 20 million years," said Lev Savatyugin, a researcher with the AARI. "It's a meeting with the unknown."
Savatyugin said scientists hope to find primeval bacteria that could expand the human knowledge of the origins of life.
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."We need to see what we have here before we send missions to ice-crusted moons, like Jupiter's moon Europa," he said.
Lake Vostok is 160 miles (250 kilometers) long and 30 miles (50 kilometers) across at its widest point, similar in area to Lake Ontario. It lies about 3.8 kilometers (2.4 miles) beneath the surface and is the largest in a web of nearly 400 known subglacial lakes in Antarctica. The lake is warmed underneath by geothermal energy.
The project, however, has drawn strong fears that 60 metric tons (66 tons) of lubricants and antifreeze used in the drilling may contaminate the pristine lake. The Russian researchers have insisted the bore would only slightly touch the lake's surface and that a surge in pressure will send the water rushing up the shaft where it will freeze, immediately sealing out the toxic chemicals.
AP
Russian researchers at the Vostok station in Antarctica pose for a picture after reaching subglacial lake Vostok. Scientists hold the sign reading "05.02.12, Vostok station, boreshaft 5gr, lake at depth 3769.3 metres." Lukin said about 1.5 cubic meters (50 cubic feet) of kerosene and freon poured up to the surface from the boreshaft, proof that the lake water streamed up from beneath, froze, and blocked the hole.
The scientists will later remove the frozen sample for analysis in December when the next Antarctic summer comes.
.......
The drilling in the area began in 1989 and dragged on slowly due to funding shortages, equipment breakdowns, environmental concerns and severe cold.
While temperatures on the Vostok Station on the surface above have registered the coldest ever recorded on Earth, reaching minus 89 degrees Celsius (minus 128 degrees Fahrenheit), the water in the lake is warmed by the giant pressure of the ice crust and geothermal energy underneath.
The Russian team reached the lake just before they had to leave at the end of the Antarctic summer season.
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/12020810.jpg)
AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein contributed to this report from Washington
Russia finds 'new bacteria' in Antarctic lakeQuoteThe samples obtained from the underground lake in May 2012 contained a bacteria which bore no resemblance to existing types, said Sergei Bulat of the genetics laboratory at the Saint Petersburg Institute of Nuclear Physics.
"After putting aside all possible elements of contamination, DNA was found that did not coincide with any of the well-known types in the global database," he said.
"We are calling this life form unclassified and unidentified," he added.
http://phys.org/news/2013-03-russia-bacteria-antarctic-lake.html (http://phys.org/news/2013-03-russia-bacteria-antarctic-lake.html)
World Hit by Mega Virus Outbreak, Similar to the Legionnaires' disease Outbreak in July 1976
Death Toll in the thousands already, no antibiotic seems to have any effect. Source linked to possible connections to Vostok Drilling site
April 16, 2013
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Zorgon, you trying to scare me to death? I saw your post and thought something happened from their drilling. I wonder how much information we will get out of this as to what may have been or still is down there? This is going to be interesting if they release any worthwhile information.
Quote from: spacemaverick on March 09, 2013, 04:11:13 AM
Zorgon, you trying to scare me to death? I saw your post and thought something happened from their drilling.
Dated April 16th :P Future News flash :D
Well, here is some information from an additional source. A couple of videos are included in the link.
http://beforeitsnews.com/strange/2013/03/new-life-form-found-in-antarctic-lake-sealed-for-millions-of-years-by-ice-2447668.html
Stifling of info begins....
Russia admits no new life form found in Antarctic lakeQuoteSergei Bulat of the genetics laboratory at the Saint Petersburg Institute of Nuclear Physics had said Thursday that samples obtained from the underground Lake Vostok in May 2012 contained a bacteria bearing no resemblance to existing types.
But the head of the genetics laboratory at the same institute said on Saturday that the strange life forms were in fact nothing but contaminants.
"We found certain specimen, although not many. All of them were contaminants" that were brought there by the lab during research, Vladimir Korolyov told the Interfax news agency.
"That is why we cannot say that previously-unknown life was found," he said.
http://phys.org/news/2013-03-russia-life-antarctic-lake.html (http://phys.org/news/2013-03-russia-life-antarctic-lake.html)
I'm betting that there is
another reason why they cannot say it. How do you go from this statement:
Quote"After putting aside all possible elements of contamination, DNA was found that did not coincide with any of the well-known types in the global database,"
To trying to pass it off as contaminants...sounds like a coverup to me.
no new viruses or bacteria found..just same old - same old
'New DNA' found in ice not new after all
Russian scientists believed they had found a new lifeform in Antarctica, but their samples may have been contaminated.
The new life found in a subglacial lake in Antarctica was just contaminants, Agence-France Presse (AFP) reported Saturday.
Russian scientists said March 7 that they might have found a new form of life that had been entombed in a lake deep under Antarctica for millions of years.
But Saturday AFP reported that the Russian scientists retracted the statement.
"We found certain specimen, although not many. All of them were contaminants" that were brought there by the lab during research, Vladimir Korolyov told the Interfax news agency.
Related: US scientists drill into lake deep under Antarctic ice sheet
The scientists drilled for more than a decade in Antarctica, eventually taking samples from a lake that hadn't been touched for at least 14 million years. The scientists believed the bacteria they found was unlike any known species on Earth, but now that claim is looking doubtful.
The lake, Lake Vostok, is the largest subglacial lake in Antarctica, AFP reported. AFP said scientists have yearned to explore it for years, but first had to drill through more than two miles of ice.
When Russia started drilling, there were concerns about kerosene and antifreeze from the borehole contaminating the lake and any samples taken from it. The scientists initially said the DNA found in the samples did not match bacteria from the drilling fluid or any other source that could have contaminated the results.
Related: Britain suspends exploratory drilling of Antarctic lake
http://news.msn.com/science-technology/new-dna-found-in-ice-not-new-after-all