This is interesting... appears the rover has taken a picture of what appears to be a thigh bone...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/thigh-bone-mars-curiosity-rover_n_5697912.html
Quote"NASA's Curiosity rover has spotted a "thigh bone" on Mars -- or at least that's what some paranormal types would have you believe.
The folks at UFO Blogger wrote this week that the rover's MastCam had captured a photograph of a "fossilized thigh bone" on the red planet on August 14
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1978280/thumbs/o-THIGH-BONE-MARS-570.jpg?12)
The object certainly resembles a fossilized femur, but the odds that it's anything other than a weird-looking rock are, well, astronomical.
Over the years, people eyeing pictures from Mars have claimed to have seen everything from an iguana to a finger to weird faces.
But NASA hasn't been too impressed.
"On Mars, as on Earth, sometimes things can take on an unusual appearance," NASA wrote on its website last year after a strange, "shiny" object was spotted on the Martian surface.
NASA said at the time that while the "shiny-looking rock" resembled a car door handle or another metallic object, its actual identity was probably a bit more prosaic. As Ron Sletten, a scientist on the Curiosity team, indicated on the agency's site, "the object is an interesting study in how wind and the natural elements cause erosion and other effects on various types of rocks."
ok, I guess when boots hit the ground on Mars something like this can be verified... or completely hushed up...
seeker
Definitely some interesting objects in that pic. It almost looks like a manufactured tile like flooring and the object to the right looks like part of a pelvis or spine???
the thigh bone's connected to the hip bone... lol
What are those lines/drag marks in the dirt? What made those?
I do find credence in the ancient solar system wide war scenario.
Dr. Brandenburg says that the surface of Mars shows the left overs of a nuclear war and Hoagland supports the idea of an ancient interplanetary war and it's described in the ancient Vedic texts.
Cosmo
Good post seeker! This certainly has the look of a bone. Probably wouldn't be a question on it if the pic were taken in a ground dig somewhere on earth, but on Mars............................?? Certainly the skeptics just cannot bring themselves to "see" the reality of so many things like this on Mars, because they are on Mars.
This piece has specific shape, with the ends being representative of the ends that common connecting bones often have. With all of the special instruments that Curiosity has, why not just go back and run tests on it to determine its make up?? HUH? :)
more pics of the area... edit to add: this pic is not from the set with the thigh bone...seeker
(http://trendingcurrentevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Human-Thigh-Bone-Found-on-Mars-1024x545.jpg)
a closer look...
(http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/alien-thigh-bone-on-mars.png)
a wider shot of the area...
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/hq53f246da.jpg)
one more with marked anomalies....
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/nh53f3361e.png)
8)
seeker
Quote from: COSMO on August 23, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
What are those lines/drag marks in the dirt? What made those?
I suppose you are talking about the wheel marks left by the rover, they easy to see on the panorama below, made with 13 photos.
(click for full size, 13 MB image)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/wt53f8ea87.jpg) (https://cld.pt/dl/download/04481ecc-bf5e-41ab-a040-44521e49b565/ze53f8ea52.png)
Some people think that the "bone" is one of those small white ridges we see on that area, only it was disturbed by the rover's wheels.
armap, what i am seeing does not look like tread marks from the rover...several items in the wide shot look manufactured...
seeker
The "thigh bone" looks very similar to the femur that I saw in my cadaver lab in anatomy and physiology.
Is it really a femur? Don't know. Would NASA admit it if it was? Probably not.
Shasta
Quote from: rdunk on August 23, 2014, 07:54:01 PM
This certainly has the look of a bone.
It does, that's what I said when I first saw it six days ago. :)
QuoteThis piece has specific shape, with the ends being representative of the ends that common connecting bones often have.
No, it has almost the specific shape, as it lacks the areas that allow a bone to rotate in it's socket.
QuoteWith all of the special instruments that Curiosity has, why not just go back and run tests on it to determine its make up?? HUH? :)
How do you know if they didn't run some tests? They made several tests on that area, as those areas with the sequences of small round markings show (those are the marks of the laser they use to analyse the rocks).
Quote from: the seeker on August 23, 2014, 08:04:17 PM
more pics of the area...
(http://trendingcurrentevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Human-Thigh-Bone-Found-on-Mars-1024x545.jpg)
That doesn't look like the same area, where did you find that photo?
Quote from: Shasta56 on August 23, 2014, 08:35:42 PM
The "thigh bone" looks very similar to the femur that I saw in my cadaver lab in anatomy and physiology.
Yep. 8)
QuoteIs it really a femur? Don't know. Would NASA admit it if it was? Probably not.
Shasta
Nope, they wouldn't, Shasta; you can bet your fur on that...
seeker
Quote from: the seeker on August 23, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
armap, what i am seeing does not look like tread marks from the rover...several items in the wide shot look manufactured...
What things? The ones marked in red and blue or something else?
Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
That doesn't look like the same area, where did you find that photo?
It was in with all the images they had compiled on the pic site, Armap...
got them from here...
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEVyo57vhTdGgAe5VXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByYWptaDQyBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA0RGRDZfMQ--?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-250-s&va=thigh+bone+on+mars
seeker
Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
What things? The ones marked in red and blue or something else?
Look in this photo to the right of the leg bone... is a metal plate with what appears to be a draglink...
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/hq53f246da.jpg)
Quote from: the seeker on August 23, 2014, 08:43:59 PM
Look in this photo to the right of the leg bone... is a metal plate with what appears to be a draglink...
I don't know what a "draglink" is, so I don't know what you mean. :(
But I know that I don't see any thing that looks like metal.
I was right about that photo, it's not from this area, it was taken by Spirit, not by Curiosity. :)
Spirit Mars Rover in 'McMurdo' Panorama (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/multimedia/pia16440.html).
Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2014, 09:44:50 PM
I was right about that photo, it's not from this area, it was taken by Spirit, not by Curiosity. :)
Spirit Mars Rover in 'McMurdo' Panorama (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/multimedia/pia16440.html).
Good find, Armap; they lumped it in with the current batch, probably just to confuse the issue...
seeker
Spirit?..Damn now I'll have to re-edit the damn thing....well maybe not....
have a look..:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sP3HLMcm_0
here's a thigh bone for comparison:
(http://www.rkm.com.au/anatomy/anatomical-illustrations/Femur.jpg)
Sgt., those "identical rocks" may just be the greatest mystery of this photo!! Yes, they are identical in too many ways to just be a coincidence doncha think?? Whatever they are, they are essentially the same, except there is more sand on the right end of one than the other.
Just a very strange occurrence, unless someone is filling in the area with digital rocks! And I believe that is what has happened here, at least in this pic. I was just looking at the two big chunks, but there are more than a dozen other smaller rocks at the head of both rocks, and surrounding, that are also identical in geometry and identical in placement to the bigger rocks. If we look, we may also find these elsewhere in this and other pics!! >:(
A good eye Sgt.!!
(http://s3.postimg.org/ypxqpw2df/Identical_Rocks.jpg)
To me, the bone in the Rover pic is also somewhat similar to the "tibia" bone.
(http://s17.postimg.org/xbhljid8f/Tibia_Bone.jpg)
I agree. Was just throwing out a "thigh bone" since that was the label given and that's what I got on a search of "thigh bone."
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 23, 2014, 10:37:10 PM
Spirit?..Damn now I'll have to re-edit the damn thing....well maybe not....
Only that photo that I thought was not from that area is from Spirit, the "bone" was found by Curiosity.
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sP3HLMcm_0
I will have a look.
PS: there's a left camera and right camera photo, can you get some real 3D from that?
Quote from: rdunk on August 23, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Sgt., those "identical rocks" may just be the greatest mystery of this photo!! Yes, they are identical in too many ways to just be a coincidence doncha think?? Whatever they are, they are essentially the same, except there is more sand on the right end of one than the other.
Just a very strange occurrence, unless someone is filling in the area with digital rocks! And I believe that is what has happened here, at least in this pic. I was just looking at the two big chunks, but there are more than a dozen other smaller rocks at the head of both rocks, and surrounding, that are also identical in geometry and identical in placement to the bigger rocks. If we look, we may also find these elsewhere in this and other pics!! >:(
A good eye Sgt.!!
(http://s3.postimg.org/ypxqpw2df/Identical_Rocks.jpg)
Absolutely no doubt in My mind that the clone tool was used. Now the question is... Why?
The aligned dots are not a photo artefact or the result of a Maritan pogo-stick (as far as I know), they are the result of the use of the laser they use to analyse the rocks/ground.
The repeated rock (and other parts of the photo) are not the result of the clone tool, they are the result of the panorama-making software not being able to join the photos correctly. The original photos (available here (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=719&camera=MAST_)) do not have those areas repeated.
The panorama I made with the photos from the right camera doesn't have that problem.
(click for full size)
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ls53f91e66.jpg) (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ee53f91eb7.png)
Here is the object I am curiuos about...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_whay_is_this_sarge.png)
I have it circled in red
To me it looks like one of those flat, long(ish) rocks with another rock on top at the rightmost end.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 24, 2014, 12:17:04 AM
The aligned dots are not a photo artefact or the result of a Maritan pogo-stick (as far as I know), they are the result of the use of the laser they use to analyse the rocks/ground.
The repeated rock (and other parts of the photo) are not the result of the clone tool, they are the result of the panorama-making software not being able to join the photos correctly. The original photos (available here (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=719&camera=MAST_)) do not have those areas repeated.
The panorama I made with the photos from the right camera doesn't have that problem.
(click for full size)
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ls53f91e66.jpg) (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ee53f91eb7.png)
Gold for You, ArMaP. I forgot it was a stitched image.
Quote from: the seeker on August 24, 2014, 12:20:52 AM
Here is the object I am curiuos about...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_whay_is_this_sarge.png)
I have it circled in red
bump. I still want to know about that object on the top right circled in red; maybe it is a rock, but I don't see it as one...
seeker
Been a little busy, friend I haven't forgotten...it looks like a hatch of some sort at first glance
Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
I suppose you are talking about the wheel marks left by the rover, they easy to see on the panorama below, made with 13 photos.
(click for full size, 13 MB image)
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/wt53f8ea87.jpg) (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ze53f8ea52.png)
Some people think that the "bone" is one of those small white ridges we see on that area, only it was disturbed by the rover's wheels.
From Your image above:
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/Mobile%20Uploads/08-24-14002copy.png~original)
What I have here came from the area in the upper left where the rover felt the need to go back and forth. I thought the cameras could do 360 swivel? Why did the rover do that? (ArMaP, I'm sure You will enlighten. [smile])
What I have delineated with the black lines and circle is the path of the treads that suggests that there should be a treadmark in that soft-looking sand. And yet... It looks more like the sand was added to hide something the rolling over maybe to destroy failed to make look "desolately natural..."
The red arrow points to a rock formation that looks more biological in formation, but maybe it's a rock.
Here I see what could be either rocks - or painted pottery.
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/Mobile%20Uploads/08-24-14001.png~original)
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 24, 2014, 07:58:21 AM
What I have here came from the area in the upper left where the rover felt the need to go back and forth. I thought the cameras could do 360 swivel? Why did the rover do that? (ArMaP, I'm sure You will enlighten. [smile])
The mast that has the main cameras can do 360ยบ rotations, and the MAHLI camera is on a moving arm (that's how Curiosity makes "selfies"), so I don't know why they, sometimes, move the rover around. Some time from now, when the data for this Sol is to the MSL Curiosity Analyst's Notebook (//http://) we will be able to read the activity plan for that day and (maybe) understand why they did all those moves.
QuoteWhat I have delineated with the black lines and circle is the path of the treads that suggests that there should be a treadmark in that soft-looking sand. And yet... It looks more like the sand was added to hide something the rolling over maybe to destroy failed to make look "desolately natural..."
To me it looks like the sand was moved by the rock in front of it, but as I don't know in what direction was the rover moving I cannot be sure. Also, as there isn't any photo of that area from the other camera (so we could look at two perspectives and make a stereo image) there's no way of knowing if things are as they look or if it's a kind of perspective illusion, I have seen that many times in those photos.
QuoteThe red arrow points to a rock formation that looks more biological in formation, but maybe it's a rock.
To me it looks just like a layered rock, like hundreds of other layered rocks that have appeared on those photos.
QuoteHere I see what could be either rocks - or painted pottery.
They didn't break like pottery when run over by the rover.
@ Seeker:
here ya go...just think its a slab of rock with some interesting features...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnc1H9Q0kGg