http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba3gM6VBFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba3gM6VBFw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba3gM6VBFw)
ahh 51
I see the name Michael Schratt and feb 2010 down in the corner of the drawings so I had to go see who that was
seems he has a web site..interestttttttttttting
http://secretspaceprogram.org/michael-schratt/
but I am thinking that the animation is yours...???
8)
Quote from: sky otter on September 08, 2014, 02:17:14 AM
ahh 51
I see the name Michael Schratt and feb 2010 down in the corner of the drawings so I had to go see who that was
seems he has a web site..interestttttttttttting
http://secretspaceprogram.org/michael-schratt/
but I am thinking that the animation is yours...???
8)
I like Michael Schratt and he does have some interesting views. I still wonder if the information is just compiled from available sources and wonder if he has really encountered any of the vehicles he has written and talked about in his videos. The only thing I have seen in the air here on the space coast was an X-47 followed by an F-18 that briefly came out of the clouds and went back into cloud cover. I do believe Michael is worth a listen though.
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 07, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
QuoteI like Michael Schratt and he does have some interesting views. I still wonder if the information is just compiled from available sources and wonder if he has really encountered any of the vehicles he has written and talked about in his videos. The only thing I have seen in the air here on the space coast was an X-47 followed by an F-18 that briefly came out of the clouds and went back into cloud cover. I do believe Michael is worth a listen though.
I invited Michael to pay Pegasus a visit. 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 08, 2014, 04:40:03 AM
I invited Michael to pay Pegasus a visit. 8)
Cool...it would be nice to have him as a guest and maybe someone could do like a video interview with him.
WOW !
AMAZING !
SUPERB AMINATION !
VERY INTERESTING ILLUSTRATIONS..
MAY BE THE BEST AREA 51/ S4 VIDEO I THINK THAT I MAY HAVE SEEN.
ALMOST BRINGS THE IMAGINATION TO LIFE.
GREAT HOW HE SHOWS THE FLY INTO PAPOOSE LAKE AND HOW HE SHOWS S4 MAY BE... IS IT SEEN SIMILAR TO THIS ON GOOGLE EARTH...NEED TO CHECK AGAIN...
GREAT TO SEE THE INSIDE WALKWAYS AND TO SEE ALL THE CRAFTS....AND LATER THE E.T.
MORE PLEASE...WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS IN FULL MOVIE FORM...
IT WAS POSTED ON YOUTUBE BACK 1 YEAR AGO IN 2013..SO i WONDER WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY CREATED.
EXCELLENT FIND A51...
I noticed you post it the other day but did not get around to seeing it to now...
Well spotted Sky...
At the moment I cannot log onto his website for some reason..
Would like a closer look at those diagrams...
Does he know some hidden secrets about S4 to produce those or are they his imagination I wonder..
Hope that he takes up you offer Sgt to drop in..
The youtube channel has some interesting animations of the Searl Craft at the top of his webpage....
That is not Thor from PRC by any chance is it !
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9fJi0rTUyZGrWyJQVHcPRw
That's what I call atmospheric. 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 08, 2014, 04:40:03 AM
I invited Michael to pay Pegasus a visit. 8)
::) ::) ::) ::). ;)
Doing a bit of a search on Michael Schratt last night,
I found some things that suggested that he had been debunking Bob Lazar's story around 2011...
Looking at that Video he has done, to me suggests otherwise..
It seems that he has done quite a lot of other illustrations on other UFO stuff in his past...
But I cannot find a copy as yet of those he shown on the video...
Just have to settle for screen shots for now.
Sgt, can I ask how long ago did you invite him to Peggy ? Since you seen this video or from some time back ? or maybe he has already visited !
With you being into CAD design... when he shows the illustrations... he also seems to be matching the animations with the Illustrations....
Do you know if there is software that can do this ?
or would you think that the animations are done entirely by another means..
Thank you
Astr0
Quote from: astr0144 on September 09, 2014, 02:05:36 PM
Doing a bit of a search on Michael Schratt last night,
I found some things that suggested that he had been debunking Bob Lazar's story around 2011...
Looking at that Video he has done, to me suggests otherwise..
It seems that he has done quite a lot of other illustrations on other UFO stuff in his past...
But I cannot find a copy as yet of those he shown on the video...
Just have to settle for screen shots for now.
Sgt, can I ask how long ago did you invite him to Peggy ? Since you seen this video or from some time back ? or maybe he has already visited !
With you being into CAD design... when he shows the illustrations... he also seems to be matching the animations with the Illustrations....
Do you know if there is software that can do this ?
or would you think that the animations are done entirely by another means..
Thank you
Astr0
I have nothing to say about this @ this time. ::)
Maybe A51Watcher would like to espouse eloquently on the topic. ::) :-X
I doubt he has been debunking Bob Lazar to be fair. :o
I have not watched it as yet...but this is the video that I found that was on a forum from 2011...
so I am wondering IF and When he may have now changed his opinion on Bob Lazar !
http://www.theparacast.com/forum/threads/michael-schratt-bob-lazar-area-51.8126/
QuoteI doubt he has been debunking Bob Lazar to be fair.
Not sure why Sgt is not commenting...
Im not asking him about any debunking, Im asking if hes aware any software that may create those animations with ref to CAD illustrations..and when he contacted Michael , or has he asked him to get in contact with A51 and is awaiting to see if he lets us know !
There is cad software that allows you to reference other items. Animation software I'm sure can do the same thing...but it doesn't look like anything thats being used is too special......not being an expert in EVERY cad application, I can't say what is being used....
That's all folks... ;) :-X
How about I do a thread on Michael Schratt? He is interesting to say the least.
This video and other related info are from 2010 and the source of the info is Dan Crain, Dan Catselas, or Dan Burisch (not sure what he's going by these days.)
Dan claims to have worked at A51 and provided that info to Michael Schratt and then had a falling out over how some of the details were drawn up.
A lot of people think that Dan Burisch is a fraud and in my personal opinion, after tuning in from time to time at Eagles Disobey over the years, I think he's a teller of tall tales.
The A51 material was originally posted at Open Minds TV
http://www.openminds.tv/project-aquarius-081210/4751
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"Open Minds recently documented, in great detail, "Project Aquarius" – the U.S. government's alleged secret project to research extraterrestrial biological entities and their presence on the earth – as told by the highly controversial whistle-blower, Dr. Dan Burisch.
Dan Burisch
Dan Burisch
Dr. Burisch was interviewed extensively by Open Minds researcher Michael Schratt on the minute details of Burisch's claimed interactions with an extraterrestrial named "J-Rod," who was housed in a secret underground base at Area 51 referred to as S4. Schratt's full report is now available below.
Area 51 is located in the Nellis Air Force Base military operations area and has long been suspected as a facility used to store extraterrestrial craft and debris retrieved by the U.S. Air Force. Area S4 is reportedly housed under nearby Papoose Mountain. Using Burisch's descriptions, Open Minds has created a never-before-seen fully illustrated reconstruction of the multi-layered base, including each level's complete contents.
Some of the projects Burisch describes in the report are "Project Looking Glass," the U.S. government's investigation into the feasibility of determining probable future events. Also, covered is the ancient Sumerian connection to man-made stargates operated at Area S4 and their connection to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
The article provides Burisch's explanations to the following perplexing questions: Who are the extraterrestrials? Where do they come from? Why are they here? And Burisch's detailed accounts as to how J-Rod and its associated craft eventually ended up at Area S4.
Please note that Dr. Dan Burisch is also known as Dan Crain and both names are used in the document, but refer to the same individual.
View the document in its entirety for FREE here: Project Aquarius – File size: 20 MB, it may take some time to download with slower connections.
http://openminds.tv/pdf/PROJECT_AQUARIUS_DOCUMENT.pdf
"
well, for me, anything from Burisch is suspect :-\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFt3vLMNIcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFt3vLMNIcw
Bob Lazar 25 years later...
Greetings:
Now, this could be very interesting ...
will the real Dan Burisch please step forward
and lay this questioning to rest once and for all?
Pretty please :-*
QuoteDan claims to have worked at A51
Dan, you out there? ;D
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Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2014, 07:17:19 PM
Greetings:
Now, this could be very interesting ...
will the real Dan Burisch please step forward
and lay this questioning to rest once and for all?
Pretty please :-*
Dan, you out there? ;D
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I gave Zorgon Dan Burisch well Crains nows phone number a while back I have spent many hours on the phone with Dan Burisch myself I have not spoke to him in a while because that number last i called was no longer connected.. He will not talk about his alleged story at S-4 any longer. However I had a very strange phone call with him one time that I cant explain.
And I called him so it could not had been a setup. Is Dan Crain really who he says he is? We can't prove he isn't and we can't prove he is. Just like Bob Lazar Charles Hall etc. I may be able to get Michael Schratt on here to comment I don't want to say anything that Michael has told myself concerning Dan and Schratt.
Crains wife Marcia allegedly works for The Carlyle Group in LV. She goes by a number of names one is BJ Wolf. Dr Marcia McDowell and Marcia Crain.
Thank you, SITD. ;)
The Carlyle Group rears its ugly head again.
Danger, danger, Will Robinson!
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Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2014, 08:20:56 PM
Thank you, SITD. ;)
The Carlyle Group rears its ugly head again.
Danger, danger, Will Robinson!
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Yes I know I worked for The Carlyle Group for 5 years.
Even though I've stated that IMHO, Burisch tells tall tales, the one thing that has always bugged me about him is the affidavits that he's signed and posted online. Signed affidavits are far more significant than someone rambling away on an online forum. They carry weight.
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Quote from: ShotInTheDark on September 09, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
I have spent many hours on the phone with Dan Burisch myself I have not spoke to him in a while because that number last i called was no longer connected.. He will not talk about his alleged story at S-4 any longer. However I had a very strange phone call with him one time that I cant explain.
And I called him so it could not had been a setup.
ShotInTheDark, are you able to elaborate on that? What's a conversation with Dan like on the phone? His posts on their forum are long and wordy (tldr style posts) and usually can be summed up in a sentence or two once you scan through the post, yet he/they take 3 paragraphs to do so.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 08, 2014, 04:40:03 AM
I invited Michael to pay Pegasus a visit. 8)
Most excellent. I would love to pick that mans brain on a few things. :)
Thanks for explaining that Dreb 13...
I appreciate you informing me on that info.
QuoteThis video and other related info are from 2010 and the source of the info is Dan Crain, Dan Catselas, or Dan Burisch (not sure what he's going by these days.)
Hope that Dan (SITD) can tell us more..
and Persude D.Burisch ( Same Initials) or Michael Schratt to visit ...If Sgts message to him does not get his attention.
Quotegave Zorgon Dan Burisch well Crains nows phone number a while back I have spent many hours on the phone with Dan Burisch myself I have not spoke to him in a while because that number last i called was no longer connected.. He will not talk about his alleged story at S-4 any longer. However I had a very strange phone call with him one time that I cant explain.
And I called him so it could not had been a setup. Is Dan Crain really who he says he is? We can't prove he isn't and we can't prove he is. Just like Bob Lazar Charles Hall etc. I may be able to get Michael Schratt on here to comment I don't want to say anything that Michael has told myself concerning Dan and Schratt.
Thks for clarifying about the CAD software Sgt !
Quote from: dreb13 on September 09, 2014, 10:07:07 PM
Even though I've stated that IMHO, Burisch tells tall tales, the one thing that has always bugged me about him is the affidavits that he's signed and posted online. Signed affidavits are far more significant than someone rambling away on an online forum. They carry weight.
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Sorry, links are not working. Click below;
http://www.danburisch.info/b2/legal/leg_affidavit_1.htm
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"....Dr. Burisch was told by J2 on March 30, 2005 that he had been lied to by the Maji, concerning the concocted "butterfly effect"....
...He is extremely angry that he was fed with such disinformation and appears more than willing to not only fight for himself and against the trashing of his reputation, but move to public DISCLOSURE...."
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I invited Michael to pay Pegasus a visit. 8)
Maybe...
...he has been here all along...
8)
We also have Ron Rummel and Dennis Mariani here. :P
Ooooooo...mysterious person you are Zorgon...but did I really make that quote? I believe you will find that Sgt. Rock said that
Quote from: Pimander on September 20, 2014, 10:48:48 PM
We also have Ron Rummel and Dennis Mariani here. :P
That is DENISE not Dennis :P And Ron Rummel is dead... or so goes the rumor
ETA oops sorry that was Denise Marcell
Ya know what? The UFO community is its own worst enemy... they all mix reality with deliberate obfuscation and they all call each other liars and frauds
After listening to that presentation at the Atomic Museum here in Vegas I just sat there dumbfounded when it suddenly dawned on me it was all a game
Dan Burisch like John Lear both have TRUTHS and both are story tellers. I have known John long enough that I can spot when he is in factual mode or story mode Its really not that hard
Dan Burisch led me DIRECTLY to Project Looking Glass at Los Alamos and he led me DIRECTLY to Project Shiva Nove at LLNL I got so much REAL DATA that the people at Avalon/Camelot deleted all my posts
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 20, 2014, 10:57:48 PM
Ooooooo...mysterious person you are Zorgon...but did I really make that quote? I believe you will find that Sgt. Rock said that
Sorry paste issue fixed now
I got away from Avalon and Camelot a long time ago. Too much information seemed outlandish and it had become very commercialized...and their sources became suspect to me in some cases...I don't know...I guess I have to be spoon fed on some things because the information can be so unbelievable at times.