I can see where it's going to a military world.. not good :(
Australian police detain 15 to prevent attack plot
SYDNEY (AP) — Counterterrorism raids in Sydney on Thursday were sparked by security intelligence that the Islamic State movement was planning a random, violent attack in Australia as a demonstration of its reach, the prime minister said.
Australian police detained 15 people and raided more than a dozen properties across Sydney in the country's largest counterterrorism operation, saying intelligence indicated an attack was being planned on Australian soil.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott said he had been briefed on Wednesday night about the operation that was prompted by information that an Islamic State movement leader in the Middle East was calling on Australian supporters to kill.
Abbott was asked about reports that the people detained were planning to publicly behead a random person in Sydney.
"That's the intelligence we received," he told reporters. "The exhortations — quite direct exhortations — were coming from an Australian who is apparently quite senior in ISIL to networks of support back in Australia to conduct demonstration killings here in this country."
ISIL refers to the al-Qaida splinter group leading Sunni militants in Iraq, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which now calls itself simply Islamic State.
"This is not just suspicion, this is intent and that's why the police and security agencies decided to act in the way they have," he added.
Abbott did not name the Australian.
Police have issued an arrest warrant for a former Sydney nightclub bouncer, Mohammad Ali Baryalei, 33, who is suspected to be Australia's most senior member of the Islamic State group.
About 800 federal and state police officers were involved in the Sydney operation — the largest in Australian history, Federal Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Colvin said. Police also conducted raids in the eastern cities of Brisbane and Logan.
One of those detained, 22-year-old Omarjan Azari of Sydney, appeared briefly in a Sydney court on Thursday.
Prosecutor Michael Allnutt said Azari was involved in a plan to "gruesomely" execute a randomly selected person — something that was "clearly designed to shock and horrify" the public. That plan involved an "unusual level of fanaticism," he said.
Azari is charged with conspiracy to prepare for a terrorist attack. The potential penalty was not immediately clear.
In court documents, Azari was accused of conspiring with Baryalei and others between May and September of this year to prepare for a terrorist attack. Allnutt said the charge stemmed from the interception of a phone call a couple days ago.
Azari did not apply for bail and did not enter a plea. His next court appearance was set for Nov. 13.
The arrests come just days after the country raised its terror warning to the second-highest level in response to the domestic threat posed by supporters of the Islamic State group.
"Police believe that this group that we have executed this operation on today had the intention and had started to carry out planning to commit violent acts here in Australia," said Colvin, who is also the acting Federal Police Commissioner. "Those violent acts particularly related to random acts against members of the public. So what we saw today and the operation that continues was very much about police disrupting the potential for violence against the Australian community at the earliest possible opportunity."
Police declined to reveal exact details of the attack they believe was being plotted. New South Wales Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said only that it was to be carried out against a member of the public on the street and was at "a very high level."
"Right now is a time for calm," Scipione said. "We need to let people know that they are safe, and certainly from our perspective, we know that the work this morning will ensure that all of those plans that may have been on foot have been thwarted."
Last week, Australian police arrested two men in Brisbane for allegedly preparing to fight in Syria, recruiting jihadists and raising money for the al-Qaida offshoot group Jabhat al-Nusra, also known as the Nusra Front.
Colvin said the raids conducted in Brisbane on Thursday were a follow-up to that operation. It was not yet clear how the investigations in Sydney and Brisbane were linked, he said.
The government raised its terrorism threat last week from "medium" to "high" on a four-tier scale on the advice of the Australian Security Intelligence Organization. The domestic spy agency's Director-General David Irvine said the threat had been rising over the past year, mainly due to Australians joining the Islamic State movement to fight in Syria and Iraq.
When announcing the elevated threat level, Abbott stressed that there was no information suggesting a terror attack was imminent.
Police said raids were conducted in a dozen suburbs of Sydney and in three suburbs across Brisbane and adjoining Logan. A Muslim book shop and community center in Logan was at the center of counterterrorism raids on several properties last week.
Police said at the time there was no terrorist threat to the Group of 20 leaders' summit to be hosted by Brisbane in November that will bring President Barack Obama and other leaders of the world's 20 biggest economies to the Queensland state capital.
Australia has estimated about 60 of its citizens are fighting for the Islamic State group and the Nusra Front in Iraq and Syria. Another 15 Australian fighters had been killed, including two young suicide bombers.
The government has said it believes about 100 Australians are actively supporting extremist groups from within Australia, recruiting fighters and grooming suicide bomber candidates as well as providing funds and equipment.
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Associated Press writer Rod McGuirk in Canberra, Australia, contributed to this report.
http://news.msn.com/world/australian-police-detain-15-to-prevent-attack-plot
Well, these were individuals with ISIS intending to kidnap westerners and behead them to prove that there are not juct in the middle east, they are among us and can strike us in our own countries.
Religion. Not even once.
My take on this is that it is more manufactured BS. At minimum there were agents provocateurs inciting this behavior. But I suspect it goes more deeply than even that. Maybe even a "Sandy Hook" sort of thing. A fake "news" report. Could be.
ISIS/ISIL is a US creation - plenty of info on that score - and to believe that a band of rebels with jihad in Their eyes has spread so widely, on Their own and out from under the support of the US, would leave Me pondering the gullibility of any such believers.
well if this is more manufactured BS. I guess that proves masks are useful, huh..
Quote from: sky otter on September 18, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
well if this is more manufactured BS. I guess that proves masks are useful, huh..
LOL in a dark evil manipulative way !
in a dark evil manipulative way !
well doesn't that describe the intent of folks in masks ?
Geez. We use a symbol and get picked on because "We know who You are," and then disparaged for doing things "in a[n] dark evil manipulative way..."
Get off the high horses.
picked on ?????? really... an opinion/ observation that doesn't agree with yours is picked on...wow
I think you may be delusion or suffer from a persecution complex..
Quote from: WarToad on September 18, 2014, 05:02:13 PM
Well, these were individuals with ISIS intending to kidnap westerners and behead them to prove that there are not juct in the middle east, they are among us and can strike us in our own countries.
yes, and beheadings carried out by
killers wearing a mask.
Quote from: Amaterasu on September 18, 2014, 05:37:48 PM
My take on this is that it is more manufactured BS.
A different take on it: Australia does not put up with terrorists planning
on killing its citizens down under, Aussies generally take matters into their own
hands, they dont wait around ho humming worried about offending jihadists.
Quote from: sky otter on September 18, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
picked on ?????? really... an opinion/ observation that doesn't agree with yours is picked on...wow
I think you may be delusion or suffer from a persecution complex..
Oh come now, sky. Rather than focusing on the effort to throw off the psychopaths running things on this planet, the Anon thread aimed at bringing Us together was derailed into discussing the fact that We are not anonymous because We are not - how picky-petty (which is the behavior of Those trying to pick on things/People), and here is the absurd assertion that the choice of a unifying symbol means it matters who is saying these things. The whole point of the mask is not to hide necessarily, but to show that it doesn't matter who. These issues are as basic as they get.
Quote from: burntheships on September 18, 2014, 10:33:28 PM
A different take on it: Australia does not put up with terrorists planning
on killing its citizens down under, Aussies generally take matters into their own
hands, they dont wait around ho humming worried about offending jihadists.
Or... They know They can pull off such a "news" item with ease and have done it. Could be wholly real or completely a drill.
Quote from: Amaterasu on September 19, 2014, 02:09:10 AM
Or... They know They can pull off such a "news" item with ease and have done it. Could be wholly real or completely a drill.
Were the previous beheadings also a "drill"?
There's talk that they were indeed not what they were said to be. None of the vics struggled and the blood flow was that more of a dead body than a pumping, spurting, living Being. Right there, it suggests the imagery was visual psyop. I suggest the vics were sacrifices that were then used for the "horrible acts" part of Their show.
amy we are never going to agree on this or much of anything
Fair enough, sky. I'm willing to put forth My thinking on the issue, but if You are uncomfortable putting forth Yours, I understand. [smile]
Quote from: Amaterasu on September 19, 2014, 03:31:43 AM
I suggest the vics were sacrifices that were then used for the "horrible acts" part of Their show.
Dead or alive the men were beheaded, and the murderers could be part of one
of the many factions of the "Anonymous" Show.
I understand
actually you don't
why go back and forth when there is no middle..why waste the space here for no good reason
except un needed drama
like I said.. we are never going to agree and I don't feel hashing verbs with you is worth it
Quote from: burntheships on September 19, 2014, 03:54:49 AM
Dead or alive the men were beheaded, and the murderers could be part of one
of the many factions of the "Anonymous" Show.
Oh, no doubt there are many factions in that show. But I am fond of reclaiming and using symbols for the purpose of the Human heart, and I will do what I can to move the whole towards betterment, having as I do a very strong betterment ethic. I am not waiting for a savior - a government process, an ET, a(n other) God, anything.
Just saying.
I cannot change the fact that there are very evil schemers with butt-loads of money toying with Humanity on this planet. They WANT Our outrage, Our fury, to be pushed into a war that will take out most of Us. They will spray Some with a disease and claim though "outlets" that Others are responsible. And They'll do it by drone.
We will be moved to support "Patriot" Acts, NDAA's, executive orders, and all the rest that has left freedom shackled and enslaved. You really think that 9/11 was just a blip of a production for Us? Heh. Think.
If They had the huevos to do that, what makes You think that They aren't seeing what more We will swallow. And then Sandy Hook. After THAT I had to face that most any story could be manufactured. I now look at the possible answers to the question, qui bono if this is a psyop. If I find a rather obvious one, I have to assign a good probability that that is what is up.