Good overview of the subject from many angles -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BbkzhOBIrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BbkzhOBIrg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BbkzhOBIrg)
Nice video. So orbs are also related in a way with these crop formations? Cool 8)
Olivers Castle Crop Circle HoaxQuote from: Flux on September 22, 2014, 06:34:42 AM
Nice video. So orbs are also related in a way with these crop formations? Cool 8)
The problem we face in our studies is that for every good piece of evidence that comes our way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWG2JBM4lg
Better copy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-1qv9QiK0
There is always another side to the story...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMeRd5EdBwE
...and that leaves us back to square one
8)
and that is why photo evidence is not used in courts anymore...
you have to question every little thing and big thing too..
and use your brain for being objective and doing your research
and most of all
don't be discouraged by the phonies and tricksters
like this one
what's that up there in the sky? that tiny little line about an inch to the left of the roof
I'm constantly finding this stuff in my photos.....it's isn't a plane but it could be a bird..
ahhhhhh gotta see how much I can enlarge it before it's just another blur
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/55/53/83/01610.jpg)
I haven't figured it out yet.. ::)
As far as art is presented and the possibility's when presented in a certain way I must say crop circle's are pretty damn cool.
Another "theory" I have for some circle's are that they may be created via mean's of Airborne/Space Based Lasar Plamsa Ablation as a sort of giggle/test among those who do work in Black Op's.
A simple wiki Ablation page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_ablation
If Laser Ablation 'was used' it might explain why there have been report's of ORBS being viewed in the general area of where a circle was found. Think of the Tether Experiment.
The above is just an idea I've had for a few years as a possibilty, not a fact. Merley a thought that is kinda fun to entertain to see where I can find a possibility :)
To claim that is happening would be nutz as I have not one shred of evidence. I only know Laser Ablation is very real and being made public :D
Quote from: Somamech on September 22, 2014, 04:18:32 PM
To claim that is happening would be nutz as I have not one shred of evidence. I only know Laser Ablation is very real and being made public :D
Years ago over at Tango I decided to look into the crop circle phenomenom,
and during one thread I had someone drop a hint into my u2u box. ;)
I saved it of course, and the fellow went on to mention a few things into the
thread about Laser Ablation. I saved his u2u for years, until they were
all deleted in that last re-make of the site.
However it was accomplished, it's a lovely pattern. Off to the doc now. Pre-op lab work and EKG, plus another script for pain meds. Surgery next week. No crop circle making for me for a while. Darn!
Shasta
Quote from: A51Watcher on September 20, 2014, 04:24:17 AM
Good overview of the subject from many angles -
For crop circles, this is a good one. Thanky
Quote from: Somamech on September 22, 2014, 04:18:32 PM
Another "theory" I have for some circle's are that they may be created via mean's of Airborne/Space Based Lasar Plamsa Ablation as a sort of giggle/test among those who do work in Black Op's.
Well that "theory" is not that far off. I posted something like that back at ATS but there are so many crop circle threads there I can't find it and don't have member access. It was a long thread all kinds of evidence they were man made...
So lets see what I can find. Lets use the premise..
MIT Students testing particle beam weapons making crop circles for kicksUnder the microscope the results were clear: if you push a board across a wheat field to flatten it, you will break the stalks between nodes because the nodes are thicker and stronger. But in the unexplained, complex patterns the nodes themselves were exploded, often keeping the fibers intact. Conclusion: something was coupling energy into the plants in the form of heat (as one of the respondents to my first post actually stated). Therefore the idea of a beam weapon is indeed one of the scenarios to consider.
http://boingboing.net/2010/04/08/crop-circles-part-de.html
I propose that message of the crop circles could be a desperate attempt by scientific genusis, wizards, who possess directed and free energy technology for peaceful purposes. They want to tell us that they are there and that they want us to admit that we know they have it. This is the purpose of crop circle communication."
http://nexusnow.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-5190.html
To me it only proves that the boys and girls at MIT are reading ATS threads
I have it on good authority that the Crop Circles are created by beam weapons from space as a test of precision. From MIT and Kirtland AFB, home of the Directed Energy Dictorate.
Frankly I think they are just messing with us
Everytime I do a search during a post I seem to hit on similar ideas..
Here is one just pooped up
"It is likely that these geometric designs are due to the firing of an aerial military microwave cannon, piloted by computer. The arguments supporting this view are as follows:"
www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com...
Hmmmm curious...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread466508/pg4
Sadly the original link is gone I need to try way back machine. That is the problem with obeying copyrights When the original is gone so is the story
Balls of Light: The Questionable Science of Crop Circles
http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_19_2_grassi.pdf
, , , , and who was making them long before mankind had the technology to even try? ;D
Just like UFO's they been around far longer then just "modern" times. :P
Quote from: Norval on September 23, 2014, 04:51:05 AM
Just like UFO's they been around far longer then just "modern" times. :P
Well yes and no...
Back in the early days of UFO research the only mention of "Crop Circles" were circular depressions like you would expect if a disc landed in a field.
What we call crop circles today began in the 70's
HISTORYThe concept of crop circles began with the original late-1970s hoaxes by Doug Bower and Dave Chorley (see Bower and Chorley, below). They said that they were inspired by the Tully "saucer nest" case in Australia, where a farmer found a flattened circle of swamp reeds after observing a UFO.Since the 1960s, there had been a surge of UFOlogists in Wiltshire, and there were rumours of "saucer nests" appearing in the area, but they were never photographed.There are other pre-1970s reports of circular formations, especially in Australia and Canada, but they were always simple circles, which could have been caused by whirlwinds. In Fortean Times David Wood reported that in 1940 he had already made crop circles using ropes near Gloucestershire. In 1997, the Oxford English Dictionary recorded the earliest usage of the term "crop circles" in a 1988 issue of Journal of Meteorology, referring to a BBC film. The coining of the term "crop circle" is attributed to Colin Andrews in the late 1970s / early 1980s.
So yeah when I first started researching UFOs back in the 60's there were no crop circles. Just the occasional round depression
Early reports of circular formationsIn 1686, British scientist Robert Plot reported on fairy rings in his The Natural History of Stafford-Shire and said they could be caused by airflows from the sky. In 1991 meteorologist Terence Meaden linked this report with modern crop circles, a claim that has been compared with Erich von Däniken's pseudohistoric claims.
An 1880 letter to the editor of Nature by amateur scientist John Rand Capron describes how a recent storm had created several circles of flattened crops in a field.
In the 1960s, in Tully, Queensland, Australia, and in Canada, there were many reports of UFO sightings and circular formations in swamp reeds and sugar cane fields. For example, on 8 August 1967, three circles were found in a field in Duhamel, Alberta, Canada, and the Department of National Defence sent two investigators, who concluded that it was artificially made but couldn't make definite conclusions on who made them or how. The most famous case is the 1966 Tully "saucer nest", when a farmer said he witnessed a saucer-shaped craft rise 30 or 40 feet (12 m) up from a swamp and then fly away. When he went to investigate the location where he thought the saucer had landed, he found a nearly circular area 32 feet long by 25 feet wide where the grass was flattened in clockwise curves to water level within the circle, and the reeds had been uprooted from the mud. The local police officer, the Royal Australian Air Force, and the University of Queensland concluded that it was most probably caused by natural causes, like a down draught, a willy-willy (dust devil), or a waterspout. In 1973, G.J. Odgers, Director of Public Relations, Department of Defence (Air Office), wrote to a journalist that the "saucer" was probably debris lifted by the causing willy-willy. Hoaxers Bower and Chorley said they were inspired by this case to start making the modern crop circles that appear today.
Bower and ChorleyIn 1991, self-professed pranksters Doug Bower and Dave Chorley made headlines claiming it was they who started the phenomenon in 1978 with the use of simple tools consisting of a plank of wood, rope, and a baseball cap fitted with a loop of wire to help them walk in a straight line. To prove their case they made a circle in front of journalists; a "cereologist" (advocate of paranormal explanations of crop circles), Pat Delgado, examined the circle and declared it authentic before it was revealed that it was a hoax. Inspired by Australian crop circle accounts from 1966, Doug and Dave claimed to be responsible for all circles made prior to 1987, and for more than 200 crop circles in 1978–1991 (with 1000 other circles not being made by them).After their announcement, the two men demonstrated making a crop circle. According to Professor Richard Taylor, "the pictographs they created inspired a second wave of crop artists. Far from fizzling out, crop circles have evolved into an international phenomenon, with hundreds of sophisticated pictographs now appearing annually around the globe."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle
(http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/circlemakers1.gif)
(http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/1trip.gif)
http://www.circlemakers.org/
I think the best part of this video is the visual evidence of blown nodes.
This has been the best indicator of real vs hoax circles, as the hoaxers have not been able to figure out how to do this yet, along with broken vs unbroken stems at the bend.
I would like to see an indication tag with every circle pic whether it has blown nodes or not.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10452318_894501613899942_1266209952137845556_n.jpg)
Nice site about photoshop versus real, versus well... secrets 8)
http://cropcirclewisdom.com/crop-circle-diaries.html (http://cropcirclewisdom.com/crop-circle-diaries.html)
I recall a person who managed to connect dozens of crop circles with each other by concluding they where drawings of parts of a machine. I cant find it anymore, maybe someone else knows or can recall?
It was rather a complicated machine, hehe
Quote from: A51Watcher on September 24, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
I think the best part of this video is the visual evidence of blown nodes.
This has been the best indicator of real vs hoax circles, as the hoaxers have not been able to figure out how to do this yet, along with broken vs unbroken stems at the bend.
I would like to see an indication tag with every circle pic whether it has blown nodes or not.
You and me both ! ! !