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St. Louis Police To Parents: Teach Your Children To Be Afraid Of Police So We Don't Have To Kill Them

St. Louis, Missouri – This week, the St. Louis Police Department posted  an insulting piece of advice on their social media pages. Their advice to parents who are sick and tired of seeing their children shot in the streets? Teach them to be more afraid of the police, apparently.

According to the St. Louis Police Department, children like the recently murdered Tamir Rice and their parents are the ones to blame when the child gets shot by a cop for carrying a toy gun. The post actually makes specific mention of the case of Tamir Rice, and attempts to abdicate the murdering officer from any responsibility in the killing.

It is sadly rare for police to actually stand up in these cases and admit that one of their own has done something wrong. Even a 12-year-old boy playing in a park is open season for these police officers.

Of course the St. Louis police department was met with heavy backlash and the post was pulled.

A screenshot of the post, which was captured by The Verge, can be viewed below:


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Thursday afternoon, Chief of Police Jon Belmar issued an apology, saying that his office had not been made aware of the statement until after it was posted and had changed its social media policy to prevent future mistakes. "I apologize to Tamir's family and anyone who was offended by the post," he wrote. "The post conveyed the message that my officers respond to calls involving a child with a gun with indiscretion and little regard for life. I want to emphasize that my officers respond to calls with discernment, and have the highest regard for human life. We train officers to take all facts and circumstances into consideration when making decisions about using force."

A comment on the Chief's post brings up a powerful point. A person asks, "How many police officers have been shot by 12 year olds in the past 10 years?"


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/st-louis-police-parents-teach-children-afraid-police-kill/

#TangoDown: Anonymous close Cleveland City govt website over 12 year old shooting death — RT USA (http://rt.com/usa/208255-anonymous-cleveland-police-shooting/)

The Hacktivist collective Anonymous have launched an attack on the official site for the City of Cleveland after 12-year-old Temir Rice was shot dead by local police for carrying a BB gun.

In a video released on Monday, Anonymous lambasts Cleveland City Police, whose alleged inability to train their officers properly is said to have led to the tragedy.

"This rookie officer apparently was not trained. The police department he works for is to blame for this lack of appropriate training. Officers are equipped with many non-lethal options such as Taser guns. Why did he not use a Taser on this child? Shooting him in cold blood was not necessary with these non-lethal options available," a statement from the collective said.



Published on Nov 24, 2014
The group further questioned whether the police were so "moronic" that they were unable to use anything other than lethal force to deescalate the situation. They called the justification that the police "feared for their lives" ludicrous, as Rice was only 12-years-old and armed with an air soft gun. The message concluded with a vow to target all municipalities whose "ignorant" and poorly-trained officers pose a threat to society.

"Police of the United States, you will learn in due time once Anonymous has shut down your sites that we will not stand for your ignorant, untrained rookie cops."

On Monday, Twitter was awash with the hashtag #TangoDown, the telltale sign of an Anonymous-affiliated attack. Many of the tweets provided links to the official site for the city of Cleveland, which was inaccessible at the time of writing.

Rice was shot at around 3:30pm local time on Saturday, at Cleveland's Cudell Rec Center after police responded to a distress call about a male allegedly threatening people nearby with a gun.

Upon further investigation, the boy's "weapon" turned out to be an air gun "resembling a semi-automatic pistol, with the orange safety indicator removed," the statement adds.

The individual who called in called 911 had told dispatchers the boy was on a swing set and was scaring people with a pistol that was "probably fake."

The president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association told The Associated Press, however, that the officers responding to the incident were not told the caller believed the gun was not real.

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Real or a toy soaker?

Toy guns have red tips.  Some of the thugs down here in our county have actually taken real guns and painted orange tips on them.  ...airsoft guns can be made to look real.  You can take off orange tips. The picture I showed above is not a super soaker but is an 870 express shotgun disguised as a toy.  The only thing I disagree with is the squad car coming right up to the 12 year old and jumping out immediately and shooting.  Not very good tactics.  I have seen similar situation that were handles much better than this was.

Quote from: zorgon on December 07, 2014, 01:58:37 AM
St. Louis Police To Parents: Teach Your Children To Be Afraid Of Police So We Don't Have To Kill Them

St. Louis, Missouri – This week, the St. Louis Police Department posted  an insulting piece of advice on their social media pages. Their advice to parents who are sick and tired of seeing their children shot in the streets? Teach them to be more afraid of the police, apparently.

According to the St. Louis Police Department, children like the recently murdered Tamir Rice and their parents are the ones to blame when the child gets shot by a cop for carrying a toy gun. The post actually makes specific mention of the case of Tamir Rice, and attempts to abdicate the murdering officer from any responsibility in the killing.

It is sadly rare for police to actually stand up in these cases and admit that one of their own has done something wrong. Even a 12-year-old boy playing in a park is open season for these police officers.

Of course the St. Louis police department was met with heavy backlash and the post was pulled.

A screenshot of the post, which was captured by The Verge, can be viewed below:


(http://tftppull.freethoughtllc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Screen_Shot_st-louis-pdfinal.jpg)

Thursday afternoon, Chief of Police Jon Belmar issued an apology, saying that his office had not been made aware of the statement until after it was posted and had changed its social media policy to prevent future mistakes. "I apologize to Tamir's family and anyone who was offended by the post," he wrote. "The post conveyed the message that my officers respond to calls involving a child with a gun with indiscretion and little regard for life. I want to emphasize that my officers respond to calls with discernment, and have the highest regard for human life. We train officers to take all facts and circumstances into consideration when making decisions about using force."

A comment on the Chief's post brings up a powerful point. A person asks, "How many police officers have been shot by 12 year olds in the past 10 years?"


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/st-louis-police-parents-teach-children-afraid-police-kill/

Lousy advice by the department.  You want children to come to the officer if they need help...you don't make them afraid.  I would like to look at their training and policy where the 12 year old is concerned.  You respond how you are trained.  Having been a trainer myself...lawsuits always start with academy training and your field training and is brought into the lawsuit.  I was a Field Training Officer for years and was well aware of the liability involved.

Quote from: spacemaverick on December 07, 2014, 07:50:06 AMThe picture I showed above is not a super soaker but is an 870 express shotgun disguised as a toy.

Those shotgun shells looked real enough... but how may 12 year olds will get one for Xmas this year?

So back in the days of Andy of Mayberry how many bad cops stories did we have vs population density  compared to today?

I know as I said before cops deal with the worst of humanity at times but Las Vegas has 5,100  cops Metro only)and in 2012 only 76 murders  Population is almost 2 million and 80% of the city is quiet. Include then School Police, State Police, Sheriffs, etc  there is really no reason for cops to be terrified of "We the people" and guess what Nevada is a MAVERICK state  open carry is a right and we are allowed machine guns. Yet no one is hunting cops (yet :P)

More and more we are seeing the bad cop stories. We are seeing people get busted for filming the cops...  At what point do we reach the TIPPING point? More bad cops than good cops?  How will we KNOW because most incidents go unreported and we never(rarely) hear the outcome of a bad cop case...

QuoteThe only thing I disagree with is the squad car coming right up to the 12 year old and jumping out immediately and shooting.  Not very good tactics.

Perhaps a lot more went on back in Mayberry Days  as we didn't have cell phone cameras )Hollywood does show us the typical Irish cop bludgeoning people :P  But there are so many stories DAILY that are just insane... and the scary part is NO ONE is doing anything about it... "They were just doing their job"

QuoteI have seen similar situation that were handles much better than this was.

Maybe we need more people filming those :P

Well in an effort of reassurence, Obama has claimed he will invest millions in Cop Vest Camera's...

Oh the Irony, we teach our kids to fear the cops to, but not for compliance reasons lol.

Its funny, we do have 'community days over here where local organisations get together, the fire crew allow all the kids to get into their tucks...

Police? No where to be seen unless it patroling the venue.

We have "Community Days" with the police all over the place visiting with the kids and parents and any one who wants to visit.  But, we are a small community. I have noticed the people who scream the loudest, do not participate . Human nature is fascinating.

Quote from: Sinny on December 07, 2014, 12:54:57 PM
Its funny, we do have 'community days over here where local organisations get together, the fire crew allow all the kids to get into their tucks...

Yeah here they have big and small trailers that they take to Malls to get recruits.  This one here they even brought their kids...

(http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/enconpolice/images/Encon_Public_Outreach_trailor.jpg)

(http://www.cpdjobs.com/images/outReach_01.jpg)

Protecting them online but shooting them in the streets? Hmmmm :P

Seems there are mixed signals... some are trying to serve and protect while others want us to fear them

It's stuff like this which just adds to my suspicions, that the government are using the police to try and provoke another civil war, which they can then use as justification for a massive crackdown/campaign of unrestrained fascist brutality against the American public.

Quote from: petrus4 on December 07, 2014, 08:00:02 PM
It's stuff like this which just adds to my suspicions, that the government are using the police to try and provoke another civil war, which they can then use as justification for a massive crackdown/campaign of unrestrained fascist brutality against the American public.

Like THIS?

Occupy Cal video: Police brutally beat, arrest Berkeley students

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f06VQOkI4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f06VQOkI4

Quote from: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Like THIS?

Occupy Cal video: Police brutally beat, arrest Berkeley students

Yep.  Occupy are demonstrating their usual level of cluelessness here, however.  It's the Gandhi routine; over and over and over again.  It fails, and it keeps failing, but they keep using it like lemmings.

The way to truly fight the system is with disruptive technologies; things like Bitcoin, and cryptographic computer networks.  If we want to get rid of conventional government, the way to do it is to build alternative institutions to said government, which then simply render said government irrelevant.

Using Gandhi's tactics against contemporary governments accomplishes nothing.  Said governments do not care, because they have no practical reason to.  You can sit on the footpath and do japa as much as you want; a post-9/11 cop will gladly walk up to you, pick you up, and repeatedly drive your head into the concrete, because he knows that he can do so with zero practical consequences.  Chanting "shame!" or attempting to make the cops look bad with international exposure, likewise accomplishes nothing.

Nobody cares about the moral high ground any more, for the most part; or at least nobody in America.  No one who is not already on the ground in Occupy, is going to go out there as a result of seeing someone else get bashed by the cops; and it's also important to realise, that the only reason why Occupy's existing demographic are there, is usually because of their own abuse as children. 

Normal, psychologically healthy adults, do not become part of the activist Left.  Only damaged, outcast freaks like me do; or more specifically, freaks like me who do not know anything about either military or political theory, who don't know that most of Gandhi's PR is Indian state-backed propaganda, and who therefore do not understand why civil rights is bullshit, and why pacifistic activism generally does not work, for the most part.

You are right Petrus -

That's why I love our Football Hooligans over here, cops tried doing that to them, they'd soon suffer a few injuries them self haha.