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Title: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 19, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/NCIS_graphic.jpg)

U.S. Navy caught spying on whole state (http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/u-s-navy-caught-spying-on-whole-state/)

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'This is the real militarization of police – when the military becomes the police'

by Drew Zahn

A child pornography case in Washington has shockingly escalated as an appeals court determined the U.S. Navy has been engaged in a "routine" and "widespread" program of "hacking" into private citizens' computers and turning over information to law enforcement agencies.

In a decision filed Sept. 12, a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals called the revelations such a "massive" and "extraordinary" violation of the law it threw out evidence the Navy had collected against Michael Allan Dreyer of Algona, Washington, who had been sentenced in 2012 to 18 years in prison for distribution of child pornography.

According to court documents, a Naval Criminal Investigative Service, or NCIS, agent in Georgia named Steve Logan trolled for traces of child pornography on computers across Washington State. When Logan discovered offending content on Dreyer's computer, the agent turned the information over to the police.

The judges ruled Logan's action a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the military from enforcing civilian laws, and warned greater action needs to be taken to stop the NCIS from continuing the practice.

"There could be no bona fide military purpose to this indiscriminate peeking into civilian computers," Senior 9th Circuit Judge Andrew Kleinfeld wrote in a concurring opinion with the majority. "Letting a criminal go free to deter national military investigation of civilians is worth it."

"The extraordinary nature of the surveillance here demonstrates a need to deter future violations," the court ruled. "So far as we can tell from the record, it has become a routine practice for the Navy to conduct surveillance of all the civilian computers in an entire state to see whether any child pornography can be found on them, and then to turn over the information to civilian law enforcement when no military connection exists. This is squarely a case of the military undertaking the initiative to enforce civilian law against civilians."

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/u-s-navy-caught-spying-on-whole-state/#vLSupj8urv2sfdo2.99
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: ArMaP on December 19, 2014, 09:56:59 PM
I didn't understand one thing: was that NCIS agent working by himself or was he following orders?
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 19, 2014, 10:11:12 PM
It appears he was following orders.

The idea that pedophiles are released because of how the information was gathered is the disturbing part of the story.

QuoteThe ruling continued, "Agent Logan carried out these searches repeatedly. He was monitoring another computer at the same time that he found Dreyer's IP address. And he was involved with at least twenty other child pornography investigations. Further, Agent Logan was not the only NCIS agent who engaged in such searches."

Erik Levin, the former federal public defender who represented Dreyer during his trial and appeal, told the Seattle Times this case takes the "militarization of police" rhetoric that spiked following the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, to whole new level.

"This," Levin said, "is the real militarization of police – when the military becomes the police."

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/u-s-navy-caught-spying-on-whole-state/#fWxkf1llGdBUfqQH.99
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: ArMaP on December 20, 2014, 12:03:54 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on December 19, 2014, 10:11:12 PM
It appears he was following orders.
Sounds inconclusive to me, the fact that there were more agents doing doesn't mean that they had orders, they may be even working as a group but on their own.

QuoteThe idea that pedophiles are released because of how the information was gathered is the disturbing part of the story.
Everybody knows (I hope) that the way the data that gets someone accused is gathered is important, as it also has to follow the law, otherwise they could use way to get the information, what surprises me is that special agents from NCIS didn't know about it and that the police acted as if they didn't know about it either.
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: petrus4 on December 20, 2014, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on December 19, 2014, 10:11:12 PM
It appears he was following orders.

The idea that pedophiles are released because of how the information was gathered is the disturbing part of the story.

Of course.  It's to protect the children.  Always to protect the children.

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.
        —Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf.

The entire point of child porn, is for fascists to have an excuse for violating everyone's privacy, that it is impossible to have any kind of counter to.  If you even remotely suggest for a millisecond that anything the government does in persuit of that cause might be excessive, then you are immediately seen as an advocate of the worst kind of evil; when you really might not be, at all.  You might just be an advocate of privacy, or of corrupt government not being given blank cheques to do whatever it likes.  It's an absolutely delicious logic bomb for governments, as a result.

Never mind, of course, the fact that usually the biggest producers and consumers of child pornography, are the very fascist psychopaths who inhabit government itself.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=george+bush+paedophile - Be warned.  Some of what you find will be disturbing.
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: 08rubicon on December 20, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
   If someone can check your computer for content, such as porn,
they also can download such content just before they 'find it'
    rubicon
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: ArMaP on December 20, 2014, 08:47:01 PM
Quote from: 08rubicon on December 20, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
   If someone can check your computer for content, such as porn,
they also can download such content just before they 'find it'
    rubicon
That was not the case, they used a program that searches (at least) child pornography on Gnutella, a peer-to-peer network, so they can see what files other people are sharing on that network, they did not have access to the guy's computer.
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: zorgon on December 21, 2014, 08:13:01 AM
They cannot find or download anything if your network ports are closed and your in full stealth mode

If your dumb enough to use torrents and peer to peer connections...  you might as well call them up to confess :P
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: petrus4 on December 21, 2014, 08:34:19 AM
Quote from: zorgon on December 21, 2014, 08:13:01 AM
If your dumb enough to use torrents and peer to peer connections...  you might as well call them up to confess :P

I suspect that this is true, Zorgon.  It's fascinating, you know.  The Internet was initially designed to survive a nuclear exchange; yet all the software was initially based around client/server.  The talk about peer to peer "decentralised," networking has only really started with news of what the NSA are doing.  Given how awful Millennial produced software tends to be in most other respects, it makes sense that they would be wrong about bit torrent, as well.
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: ArMaP on December 21, 2014, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on December 21, 2014, 08:34:19 AM
Given how awful Millennial produced software tends to be in most other respects, it makes sense that they would be wrong about bit torrent, as well.
I don't understand what you mean by that. ???
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: starwarp2000 on December 21, 2014, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on December 21, 2014, 01:42:18 PM
I don't understand what you mean by that. ???

He probably means this Armap:

QuoteThe Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act)

Hence, Millennial Software. :)
Title: Re: Has the military been trolling your computer?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 24, 2014, 11:38:49 PM
Chicago Cops Used Stingray to Intercept Protester's Conversations | The Free Thought Project (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/chicago-cops-stingray-intercept-protesters-conversations/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdpjX8Vsfw

Stingray Warrantless Wiretap by CPD on Activists - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdpjX8Vsfw)

Published on Dec 5, 2014
The Chicago Police were listening to an activist's phone call(s) to learn about their "movements" in the city.

Full Story here (http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/27362-focus-anonymous-chicago-police-surveilled-activists-including-politicians-daughter)
And this:
Lawsuit filed against Chicago Police Department over concerns of phone interceptions (http://wgntv.com/2014/12/07/lawsuit-filed-against-chicago-police-department-over-concerns-of-phone-interceptions/)