Arthur Berlet ET Contact From The Planet Acart 1of 6
Have not seen this case before from Brazil
Karl? Russo? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Sjwa-i7-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Sjwa-i7-8
Anyone interested in this case should use the real (Portuguese) name, Artur, instead of Arthur, in their searches. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on December 30, 2014, 01:45:33 PM
Anyone interested in this case should use the real (Portuguese) name, Artur, instead of Arthur, in their searches. :)
Only that, the real name is in Brazilian not in Portuguese :P
Quote from: zorgon on December 30, 2014, 01:52:51 AM
Arthur Berlet ET Contact From The Planet Acart 1of 6
Have not seen this case before from Brazil
Karl? Russo? :D
I remember read about this case in a magazine when a kid, its a interisting story.
Curious the "aliens" comunicated with him in german.
Always zee germans ::)
How many contacts have been related to German?
Is their enough to compile a list?
Good question
There were lots of stories of NAZI fleeing to South America with their UFO tech..
I would suppose German speaking aliens would be a possible result LOL
Quote from: RUSSO on December 30, 2014, 03:13:03 PM
Only that, the real name is in Brazilian not in Portuguese :P
OK, then post it in Brazilian, so we can see the difference. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on December 30, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
OK, then post it in Brazilian, so we can see the difference. :)
The guy was born in Brazil... So we should assume he has a brazilian name. Got it? Not portuguese.
There is no difference... the only difference is in respect to where he lived and born. :)
Quote from: zorgon on December 30, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
I would suppose German speaking aliens would be a possible result LOL
Dont forget that he lived in Rio Grande do Sul state. Lots of german colonies there.
Some say even nazi doctor Josef Mengele did some experiences in Rio Grande Do Sul... In the Cândido Godói city ( they even have a city "nickname" Land of Twins):
QuoteThe notorious Nazi doctor Josef Mengele, who had conducted twin "studies" in Germany and experiments with twins in Auschwitz, is known to have fled to South America as the Allies were closing in on the Nazi German regime. The Argentine historian Jorge Camarasa has suggested that Mengele conducted experiments on women in the area, which could be responsible for the high ratio of twins.[7][8] According to some commentators, about the time of Mengele's arrival in southern Brazil in 1963, the incidence of twins began to increase, allegedly leading to the current rate of twinning at 1 in 10, over half of whom are dizygotic (fraternal).[3][9] However, such speculation has been disputed by local historian, Paulo Sauthier, who says Mengele did not study twins during his time in Brazil. Moreover, according to geneticists, the most likely explanation for the high frequency of twins is genetic isolation and inbreeding.[3][9][10] Records indicate that the high frequency of twins predates Mengele's arrival to South America.[11]
This phenomenon of a large number of twin births is not unique to Cândido Godói, and has also been observed in the town of Igbo-Ora in Nigeria and the village of Kodinji in India
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A2ndido_God%C3%B3i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A2ndido_God%C3%B3i)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01243/twins_1243896c.jpg)
http://mannaismayaadventure.com/2012/02/27/twin-town-the-indian-village-where-there-are-250-sets-of-twins-has-doctors-baffled/ (http://mannaismayaadventure.com/2012/02/27/twin-town-the-indian-village-where-there-are-250-sets-of-twins-has-doctors-baffled/)
:o
Quote from: RUSSO on December 30, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
The guy was born in Brazil... So we should assume he has a brazilian name. Got it? Not portuguese.
I would think of it as a Brazilian name if it was in a native language, as it's in Portuguese I call it a Portuguese name, like I would call it an English name if it was Arthur.
Do people in Brazil speak Portuguese or Brazilian?
Quote from: ArMaP on December 30, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
I would think of it as a Brazilian name if it was in a native language, as it's in Portuguese I call it a Portuguese name, like I would call it an English name if it was Arthur.
Do people in Brazil speak Portuguese or Brazilian?
Brazilian portuguese :)
And as he was born in Brazil... Its a Brazilian name. Taken to the Civil Registry Office (Cartório) in Brazil. Not Portugal. We not colony anymore you know :P
Quote from: RUSSO on December 30, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
Brazilian portuguese :)
That's what I was saying. :)
QuoteAnd as he was born in Brazil... Its a Brazilian name. Taken to the Civil Registry Office (Cartório) in Brazil.
Where he was registered is irrelevant to the source of the name. Artur is the Portuguese version of Arthur, a name that some people think comes from "artos" (meaning "bear"). If his name was Arthur I would say that it was an English name, regardless of where he was born or registered.
QuoteNot Portugal. We not colony anymore you know :P
Oh, a colony complex, that explains it. :P
Quote from: ArMaP on December 30, 2014, 11:58:24 PM
That's what I was saying. :)
Saying what? Brazilian portuguese is not the same of european portuguese.
QuoteWhere he was registered is irrelevant to the source of the name.
Im not discussing the roots of the name. An by your logic, if you not have an apache or navajo name you cant say you have an American name.
If my mother register my name in brazil, and it is accept in the register office.. The name is brazilian for all effects.
QuoteArtur is the Portuguese version of Arthur, a name that some people think comes from "artos" (meaning "bear"). If his name was Arthur I would say that it was an English name, regardless of where he was born or registered.
By your logic it would be greek. Not english.
QuoteGreek: ?????, "leavened loaf", "bread"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artos)
QuoteOh, a colony complex, that explains it. :P
Lol, far from it... Brazil > Portugal. Even after all the robbery ;D
Quote from: RUSSO on December 31, 2014, 12:12:07 AM
Saying what? Brazilian portuguese is not the same of european portuguese.
It's not, in the same way US English is not the same as UK English, but it's a variation of Portuguese, and that's why the official language in Brazil is Portuguese, not Brazilian.
QuoteIm not discussing the roots of the name.
But I am, and that's the only thing I have been doing on this thread (which also means that I have been guilty of derailing it :().
QuoteAn by your logic, if you not have an apache or navajo name you cant say you have an American name.
Or a Apache or Navajo (or any other local language) version of some other name.
QuoteIf my mother register my name in brazil, and it is accept in the register office.. The name is brazilian for all effects.
No, it's a name that is recognized in Brazil, it doesn't change the name. :)
QuoteBy your logiv it would be greek. Not english.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artos)
Not that "artos", the Celtic word "artos", as Arthur's origins appear to be Celtic, not Greek.
QuoteLol, far from it... Brazil > Portugal. Even after all the robbery ;D
Complexes are complex. :)
Being bigger means nothing, look at the US, always looking for someone to consider as a "king" or "queen". :)
Quote from: ArMaP on December 31, 2014, 12:29:23 AM
No, it's a name that is recognized in Brazil, it doesn't change the name. :)
Registered in a legal office. Brazilian name.
QuoteNot that "artos", the Celtic word "artos", as Arthur's origins appear to be Celtic, not Greek.
So you saying not portuguese and not brazilian anymore?
QuoteComplexes are complex. :)
Being bigger means nothing, look at the US, always looking for someone to consider as a "king" or "queen". :)
i have no repressed emotional thoughts about Portugal at all. When i tell you Brazil is bigger, i mean bigger economy, territory, production, etc. I would find hard have any kind of patological behavior because Portugal, in some point of time, used the country i was born as a colony. Im very proud of my country... even more proud of my state.
So... i could say you're complexed because Portugal once a major superpower, now is barelly a shadow of it?
Nah... i'm proud but not stupid to the point think my country is better than any other one. Ufanism is not in my list of "skills".
Sorry Zorgon for the derail the thread. These posts should be part of another kind thread.
Quote from: RUSSO on December 31, 2014, 01:00:19 AM
Registered in a legal office. Brazilian name.
That only means that the name is recognised as a person's name, it doesn't change the language of the name.
QuoteSo you saying not portuguese and not brazilian anymore?
On that sentence I was talking about the origin of the name, that's why I said "Artur is the
Portuguese version of Arthur, a name that some people think comes from "artos" (meaning "bear")."
Quotei have no repressed emotional thoughts about Portugal at all. When i tell you Brazil is bigger, i mean bigger economy, territory, production, etc. I would find hard have any kind of patological behavior because Portugal, in some point of time, used the country i was born as a colony. Im very proud of my country... even more proud of my state.
I was only joking, I never think of Brazil as an ex-colony. :)
I, most of the time, do not even remember as ex-colonies those that were still colonies until I was 12 years old, like Angola or Mozambique.
QuoteSo... i could say you're complexed because Portugal once a major superpower, now is barelly a shadow of it?
You could, but you would be wrong, I don't have any complexes about things out of my control. :)
QuoteSorry Zorgon for the derail the thread. These posts should be part of another kind thread.
I agree, but I would like to point to the reason why I made my first post in this thread, when we don't have the real person of a place or person we usually have a harder time to find information closer to the source, as the source, usually, uses the original names. In this case, as the difference in spelling between "Artur" and "Arthur" is very small and the surname is not a common one, searching with either "Artur Berlet" or "Arthur Berlet" will probably return the same results, unless we use a more strict search engine.
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Lol sorry couldn't resist ;D
Now that I watched the first minutes of the video I can see that it doesn't say exactly the same things as Artur's book (that I downloaded today :)).
Quote from: ArMaP on December 31, 2014, 01:33:48 AM
That only means that the name is recognised as a person's name, it doesn't change the language of the name.
No that means the name is legit and not a crazy name that was denied by the office. Once it is registred, it is considered a brazilian name.
QuoteOn that sentence I was talking about the origin of the name, that's why I said "Artur is the Portuguese version of Arthur, a name that some people think comes from "artos" (meaning "bear")."
Was not the origin you were talking about since the beginning? If so... Artur is celtic.
QuoteI was only joking, I never think of Brazil as an ex-colony. I, most of the time, do not even remember as ex-colonies those that were still colonies until I was 12 years old, like Angola or Mozambique.:)
Joking or not... no offence taken at all ArMaP if it was a concern to you(prob not). I do think Portugal a beautiful country and when i get the opportunity to go in Europe...A must go place for sure.
QuoteYou could, but you would be wrong, I don't have any complexes about things out of my control. :)
Exactly, but even on those under my control. No complexes for me, i have it well worked.
QuoteI agree, but I would like to point to the reason why I made my first post in this thread, when we don't have the real person of a place or person we usually have a harder time to find information closer to the source, as the source, usually, uses the original names. In this case, as the difference in spelling between "Artur" and "Arthur" is very small and the surname is not a common one, searching with either "Artur Berlet" or "Arthur Berlet" will probably return the same results, unless we use a more strict search engine.
See, we are not too far from the posts objectives in the first place. People could search for a Portuguese guy and not a brazilian one that he actually is :)
I was not trying to cause any kind of war.
Quote from: RUSSO on December 31, 2014, 02:01:45 AM
Was not the origin you were talking about since the beginning? If so... Artur is celtic.
No, I was talking about the real name of the man, Artur (in Portuguese (or maybe in German, as he had, apparently, German and French family, but I didn't know that at the time)) instead of Arthur (in English) as it appears on the video.
QuoteSee, we are not too far from the posts objectives in the first place. People could search for a Portuguese guy and not a brazilian one that he actually is :)
What I meant was that the search should be about the real name of the man, "Artur Berlet", not "Arthur Berlet", as, if such person exists, it's not the same as "Artur Berlet". If you look at the thread or the video title you can see that there's no reference to the man's origin, only to the (wrongly spelled) name, so when I searched for it (I don't remember having read about this case before) I found that I was looking for the wrong name, and it was only when searching for his real name (in Portuguese) that I found his book.
Quote from: zorgon on December 30, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
Good question
There were lots of stories of NAZI fleeing to South America with their UFO tech..
I would suppose German speaking aliens would be a possible result LOL
Certainly, I now I have crossed about 8 different cases, many of which connecting Germans and South America.
Martin Cannon done some brilliant investigations into US and South American abduction cases, he directly related them to 4th Reich remnants across agencies.
He named names, methods and places.
Shame there's almost no trace left of his work.
There is a huge gap of knowledge left to be filled in this subject area.