Ed Fouche Rehashed
Over at the Outpost Forum the Ed Fouche debackle continues
Outpost is the forum created by several of the old crew from Open Minds mostly the ones I had issues with :P
Well its back to the papers Ed flashes around
ShotInTheDark sent me a video made by Dave Hilton who has this simmple comment to make on Ed Fouche
No, there is nothing unusual about it at all. It looks to me like a typical technician that became a supervisor in a maintenance shop to me. Nothing special about his career in any way. Even his citations and awards are not all they are being made out to be here. For example the "Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Leaf" is an award that was given to everyone in Vietnam for pretty much just being in the country during the war. The "Vietnam Service Medal" was again given to everyone in the country for more than 30 days. The "National Defense Service Medal" is given to anyone for not much more than enlisting and finishing basic training. I'm not trying to bash his awards. I'm just saying you need to see them for what they are, and not treat them like they are a Medal of Honor he got for storming Hamburger Hill.
As far as it being only "7 pages," look at the records for Lt. Col. Jacobsen's (17 pages of mostly awards) and Col. Walter's (7 pages) service record.
I don't see anything unusual here at all. I see an average career of a maintenance NCO, and that's all.
Gotcha Dave :D
I see Space Maverick is still hanging out over there so anyone who wants to stick their noses in here is the link
http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1801-Edgar-Fouche-Military-Records-Released&p=35536&viewfull=1
Here is the Video of the "FOIA" reports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOi406RdlKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOi406RdlKg
I will leave it for you all to decide, but one thing, it seems a continued effort to keep comparing Ed;s "Proof" to Bob Lazars lack of proof...
As far as I am concerned Ed is a fraud in what he claims. I don't know why he or Stanton Freeman cannot just make their own case on their own merits without having to change the focus to Bob
unless they are deliberately using misdirection :D
I am tired of seing photo copies of "proof" that cannot be independently verified..
Look at Johns Den walls and drawers full of hard copies of documents medals and souvenirs from a life of accomplishments and photos of who he met along the way
(http://projectcamelot.org/john_lear_study_med.jpg)
Ed Fouche needed three months to produce photo copies
Look at the Den of Famous Astronomer Sir Patrick Moore
(http://www.astropixels.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/PatrickMoore+FE+PT-015w.jpg)
Ed Fouche needed three months to produce photo copies and is still crying Look at my documents. "See how good I was? But Bob is a fraud he has no documents"
I probably should do my den LOL but my den is small and my stuff is all over the house ad the stairwell :P And I didn't even have a fantastic career yet I can snap a picture anytime of my wall
So as far as I am concerded CASE CLOSED Thanks Dave...
I don't see anything unusual here at all. I see an average career of a maintenance NCO, and that's all.[/color]
...aAbout what I figured
Just hanging around a little bit at the Outpost because I do have some friends there. Ed is my friend. I just wish they would quit the Ed bashing over there because it really is not a good thing to bash someone else. It has accomplished nothing. The rehash has been rehashed and rehashed. It is what it is and it continues with nothing accomplished unfortunately. My mainstay forum is right here and I actually have my own board somewhere else. My participation has dropped considerably because of work. I just hate to see people bashing people. Anyway just thought I would jump in here for a moment. I saw the forms that Ed has produced and they are some of the same forms that I have in my records when I was in the USAF Reserve. When I was in Active Army I even had taken some USAF courses (2 I think)...been a long time anyway. Beyond that I won't address the awards etc...like beating the old dead horse over and over....they squished the horse though....sorry...a little humor!
That horse must be pulp by now LOL
Here is my thing... and this is nothing to do with Ed directly..
ALL of these guys that are supposedly insiders tend to thump their own chest and are trying desperately to hold on to a following.
Instead of just sticking the their story and what they actually know, they get involved in every popular story on the internet whether true or not, because the fickle audience wants to hear what they thing. The audience could care less about the truth they just want support for what they believe
Sooner or later they all jump on the BS band wagon. Ant true insider has only ONE maybe TWO pieces of the puzzle. Anyone that has has any military experience knows abpout how tight internal compartmentalization is. Sure they may hear some stories about what the other guy is working on but that is about it
Look at Snowden He blows the whistle on the NSA and runs to Russia for cover... but now on the internet Snowden says: Aliens are real Chemtrails are real HAARP is killing us all etc etc... NO he said non of this but people don't care they will share it anyway so it must be true because they saw it on Twitter. I have been asked many times on FB if what Snowden said on those matters was true
And most of them say "My story is true the other guy is a fraud listen to me I know everything"
Greer when he started I though "Oh finally we get some disclosure" He turned charlatan only after the money and he rubs our noses in it, Bob Dean great story until he started posting images of known fakes. Linda Mutton Howe threw her credibility away supporting the drones and Dr Lier jumped on the Jerusalem UFO hoax and the Turkey UFO claiming he was an eye witness
Even Bob his last interview... now has me doubting the story
Dulce... John tells me he got it from Cherry Hinkle... Cherry turns out to be a total loon, changing her story and when you ask questions you get blocked. Carol Rosin claims to have been with von Braun I pointed out proof of the DEW program she deltes posts and blocks me
Camelot/Avalon - Nenry Deacon That mess went on for years included attacks on ATS (deleted) GLP(still there) and Open Minds(shut down) Avalon and Open Minds all my work erased Then Ed starts the John Lear Bob Lazar and Zorgon bashing on Alien Scientist and Outpost I actually had to write them and threaten legal slander (they removed the post withing minutes) BigPappy constantly hopping the fence :P
John Hutchinson was awesome even Boyd Bushman thought so Then he meets Nancy and Dr Rauscher and POOF he is a total nutcase and wears dresses
Steven Greer was 'handled' by Dr Rauscher he goes charlatan
Nassim Haramein, a total nut case, is grabbing everyone's theories from the web He hooks up with Klaus Dona and those fake Mayan stones and then I find out Dr Rauscher is his handler too.
Next I hear National Geographic is doing an hour long special on the fake alien stones. Nat Geo to me has always been the ROCK of reality... WTF? How did they fall for that BS?
Ed claimed on Open Minds he was exCIA in the mind control project He claimed he knew Hal Puthoff et al. I dared to question that... Calikid wrote me and said "You have a valid question but I am going to delete that" After that letter I was no longer welcome at Open Minds and told to stay in my own area, my posts deleted and soon after Open Minds was shut down
So does Ed have anything worth while to share? I doubt it The TR3B stuff he sells is utter BS... he cannot bash Bob for having his histroy wiped and then make the same claims about his own record being wipe Can't have it both ways. The other material he talks about? Readily available on the web IF you know where to look
So Ed if you have anything of value present iit and STFU about your documents Just get on with it
Last point... the Avalon/Henry Deacon affair
John and I were invited to Avalon on the condition that we don't mess with their star insider snitch Henry Deacon aka Arthur aka Blissmaker (GLP) aka 50 others at Open minds etc..
Well John saw though his BS instantly and said so and was banned LOL Henry is seen in videos flashing a passport claiming its a special military one but no one ever asks to examine it LOL Its like Phil Schnieder's Corbomite Manuever (element 142) No one ever questions it. We see this all the time at Vegas magic shows :D Ed did the same think tossing CIA logos in with his documents
Maybe I should create myself a set Bet I could be convincing Did you know I am a scientist at Lockheed Skunkworks? (all I have to do is change that date of death :P otherwise he is about the same age) I wonder how many of my contacts though I was him?
Hmmmm
So me vs Henry Deacon... There were three things Henry claimed to have inside knowledge of One was Solar Warden but other than mentioning it and showing a web circulating graphis, he refused further comment (Solar Warden was the then catchword for the secret space program) The other was LOOKING GLASS A Los Alamos project and the third was SHIVA NOVA, the super laser at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
So along comes ME all happy because these three project were my main research that started Pegasus
Well you have all seen my Navy space command material but the Looking Glass I had real official papers on it. Henry had posted a picture of "Looking Glass and everyone was Oooo and Ahhhh but it was a phony It was a photo of another project altogether I had the REAL document in PDF from Los Alamos
Shiva Nova I had the link to the LLNL secure (but public) website showing the whole thing in HD detail with the history back to 1972
Seems Henry who claimed to have worked on that project at LLNL had no idea it was available on line
So I posted the material expecting to get kudos for backing up his story... but no I got attacked called a spook etc Files were deleted, I was banned and Henry hounded me on other sites, even phoned Undo at her house and made threats (soon dealt with with her hubbies employers :P After that Henry never bothered us again)
So in a nutshell NO ONE gives a real damn about any truth save a few people that hang out here :P I might as well be spitting into the wind. I would hang up my had if it wasn't for the silent watchers that visit the website (over 4 milllion last years
So maybe someone is getting some value out of my work LOL
I was told recently by BurnTheShips that SO at ATS posted a list of the years top threads and my Baval Space Command and the Milky Way thread were in that list ArMaP told me ATS posted my thread at Twitter
https://twitter.com/AboveTopSecret/status/555085750853976064
So I am banned but they like my work enough to promote their website I should demand royalties :P
So sorry Dan but I have absolute ZERO use for anything Ed wants to share... He burned me good at the beginning when I was asking questions to VERIFY he was the real deal so I could promote him Seems he decided attacking me was the better option... Then the second round at Alien Scientist Again the attacks against Bob John me and almost everyone else. Then AS even posts that he is a fraud. I just don't have enough time left to waste on this constant BS and bashing
And Space maverick Thanks for chiming in
Z....the whole thing is crazy isn't it. Poor horse...lol It's a shame that all those people you mentioned have gone off the deep end. Oh well, that's human nature I guess. Actually it was livingmoon that got me started and John Lear that directed me in the direction of all things space and other areas. Much respect for you and John's guidance or I wouldn't be digging for information like I do. Thanks.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Screen_Shot_2015-01-15_at_9_47_32_PM.png)
yeah, I was wondering myself, when seeing the list if Z was on it also...
Crazy.
Well thanks Thor :D
I look on the bright side No publicity is bad publicity. Since all the work at ATS links back to livingmoon ( I used our server for image hosting) It will drive traffic our way
One thing I have to bear in mind when redoing the website so I leave old links intact