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Title: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2015, 07:32:27 AM
A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails

Yesterday I was outside and saw 6 high flying aircraft  flying the grid checker board we commonly associate with Chemtrails

2 going east west 3 going north south... they were all in the sky at the same time  spread apart and each flying slightly behind the other   

In Minutes they has the grid laid out, today skies were still covered...

I didn't have a camera handy and it was over literally in minutes...

Okay then a little while ago I was chatting with BurnTheShips and George Knapp came up in the convo re: the recent Moon Mining material with Robert Bigelow and him posting on my wall...

BTS mentioned that George took an anti chemtrail position at ATS...

Well just a few minutes ago I found THIS posted by George Knapp on Channel 8  Seems he has the pictures

:o

I-Team: Chemtrails open skies up to debate
Posted: Feb 05, 2015 1:58 PM PST
Updated: Feb 05, 2015 8:00 PM PST
By George Knapp, Chief Investigative Reporte


8 News NOW


http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28037509/i-team-chemtrails-open-skies-up-to-debate
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2015, 07:34:16 AM
Literally updated 3 hrs and 45 minutes ago

Now how about THAT?

To bad you left for the night BTS  LOL  He posted that about the time we were talking
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2015, 07:40:08 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10407516_831925110202045_5415026241059659062_n.jpg?oh=fe7445ce20f28fece39f659ef1c84d78&oe=554C92E4&__gda__=1431276686_181aeef6b98a049cf3b721c8d245e7ae)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2015, 07:42:46 AM
Captured by Joesph Bustos here in Vegas 

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10959370_1549806915277690_992343791797969783_n.jpg?oh=b20cbab3e0d92660844fe865be1fcfc1&oe=55556CEF&__gda__=1430854451_9526a58d1baebd67e8166705cc6d75b2)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: ArMaP on February 06, 2015, 11:14:24 AM
When seeing something like that you could go to a site like FlightRadar (http://www.flightradar24.com) and see which flights are those or if they are not identified. :)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 07, 2015, 02:37:02 AM
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2015, 07:34:16 AM
Literally updated 3 hrs and 45 minutes ago

Now how about THAT?

To bad you left for the night BTS  LOL  He posted that about the time we were talking

And had that interview with Mark in the can...or a direct line to his nibs?
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 07, 2015, 06:28:53 AM
I believe this belongs here,as I believe that there is a connection. The "Chem" planes have been running here for weeks 24/7.  Then when this happened today , it is really horrible this stuff is like glue, but rubs off with strange residue. And Not the 1st time it has happen. But why today? It has been raining here for days. I did hear that it was due to a volcano in Russia, I don't believe it. I experienced Mt. St Helen's when it blew, this is different.

http://www.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott/Mysterious-dirty-rain-falling-in-Eastern-Washington-Oregon-291091671.html?mobile=y

I would post pictures from the article, but, I have a new tablet, haven't got stuff figured out.... :)


Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 07, 2015, 06:50:20 AM


This article is very good.  But this is The Very Best show I 've seen on chemtrails, it is put together by a French/Itailian team, it goes fast and is subtitled, but it is so Very Well Worth It! I also must say it is nice to see the topic is noticed in other countries. It IS a world wide problem.





http://www.globalresearch.ca/chemtrails-the-secret-war/5421137
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Pimander on February 08, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
QuoteFor the last two decades the source material for chemtrails has been a mystery. Finally, the apparent 'perfect' element base material of chemtrails sprayed from airplanes—both government and commercial—that causes blanket clouds and welsbach reflective materials in the atmosphere, has been identified. It's coal fly ash wastes from coal burning power plants!
Chemtrail Source Material Finally Unveiled (http://www.pakalertpress.com/2015/02/06/chemtrail-source-material-finally-unveiled/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6r0GqbH9Os
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 08, 2015, 07:07:31 PM

I respecfully disagree with "coal" theory ".  For one thing, it does not explain all the planes dropping the trails, Not being shown on the site that ArMap so nicely posted. When I watch the planes, I have been checking the site, so far "nothing", but I will take more time with it. In my particular area, we are just not on any commercial fly over grid. It is my thought, that these are military planes and apparatuses(I,ve seen strange things) laying the trails.


According to this particular site there have been quite a few coalfire plant shutdowns including the one in my area. If what this lady says is true , the shut downs , I would think make some sort of difference. Instead, the trails have become more bold and constant.


More than 72 gigawatts (GW) of electrical generating capacity have already, or are now set to retire because of the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) regulations. The regulations causing these closures include the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (colloquially called MATS, or Utility MACT)[1], proposed Cross State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR)[2], and the proposed regulation of carbon dioxide emissions from existing power plants.

To put 72 GW in perspective, that is enough electrical generation capacity to reliably power 44.7 million homes[3]—or every home in every state west of the Mississippi River, excluding Texas.[4] In other words, EPA is shutting down enough generating capacity to power every home in Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana.


http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/topics/policy/power-plant-closures/
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Pimander on February 08, 2015, 11:30:07 PM
Phedre, you haven't absorbed the "information" properly.  They are saying that the base of the substance that the planes are releasing is Coal Fly Ash.  They are not blaming power stations for the "chemtrails".

I don't doubt that there have been experiments to control weather but I am not convinced that the practice is as widespread as a lot of theorists claim.
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 09, 2015, 06:28:41 AM


Thank You,  Pimander, I certainly DID NOT  absorb the information properly at all!   Lordy, if I could train myself never to look up again, I could probably keep a bit of whats left of my mind...........maybe :P
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Pimander on February 09, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
Don't worry mate, it's an easy mistake to make.  I'm an insomniac which means I can go from reasonably functional to the opposite depending on how much sleep I can get.

Apparently it is actually raining in California now.....
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 09, 2015, 04:29:45 PM

Mystery of the 'milky rain' in Eastern Washington solved?


http://www.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott/Mystery-of-the-milky-rain-in-Eastern-Washington-solved--291226971.html?mobile=y


Nevada did it. 

But only on such a small precise  area?    ::)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 10, 2015, 12:44:01 AM
I will have to add that rain to our list of other weird rains
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 10, 2015, 06:09:39 PM


Commentary is made that no low pressure is allowed to build up in order to control weather in the Pacific and West Coast of the USA. Aerosol trails over California prevent low pressure from building up, which may explain why California doesn't get rain.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2015/02/06/chemtrail-source-material-finally-unveiled/


This would explain why the pressure  gets so high, especially , when we are being saturated, I'm also a bit of a weather watcher. It would be interesting if others would check their barometric pressure when heavy trails appear. As I say in my area there is not even commercial fly overs,  but yet, can experience up to 6 or so planes laying heavy grid patterns, not just once a day, some times over and over. I'm sure it would be much harder to keep tabs on major cities, like Vegas, sounds like  an aircraft zoo.

Interesting , Dec was 24/7 trails.

http://www.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott/Seattle-sets-all-time-record-high-pressure-Tuesday-287142731.html?mobile=y



Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Phedre on February 12, 2015, 08:08:30 PM

Can anyone get to the article  Pimander posted ?   http://www.pakalertpress.com/2015/02/06/chemtrail-source-material-finally-unveiled/

Is it just me? It just says "error in data base connection"   ??


Never mind and thank you, I finally brougt the site up.   :)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 13, 2015, 01:19:26 AM
A database error is usually when too many people are connecting at the same time  It usually clears up
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: ArMaP on February 15, 2015, 07:13:53 PM
This was what I saw on February 12, from my workplace.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/P1070069_stitch.jpg)

It's not common to see so many trails, so I grabbed the camera we have on that place and took 3 photos. :)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 15, 2015, 09:39:54 PM
I got one yesterday  Its on my wife's cell  I will upload it tomorrow  It shows the planes flying in the pattern. They are hard to catch because by the time you see the grid they are gone

They fly really high and fast... faster that the lower commercial traffic  They fly in groups of three  spaced apart and slightly behind each other

Years ago before "chemtrails" I saw these high plying ones and saw them converge for refueling Those were the strategic bombers that flew 24/7 but they never left a grid back then.

So one can argue that they are 'persistant contrails' BUT we didn't have them back then and they are common today

More traffic?  Different atmospheric conditions today?  Well you could argue that if it wasn't for all the chemtrail patents and known equipment out there

Do I think they are poison us on purpose? No I think they truly believe they on effect the weather for the common good

But then those same scientists also exploded nukes in space  even at a time when we were on the brink of all out nuclear wr  In fact they almost caused it so no I don't trust the scientists one bit to care about us
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: zorgon on February 15, 2015, 09:45:06 PM
NOT CONTRAILS :P

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/3rkgA.jpg)
Title: Re: A funny thing happened today - Chemtrails
Post by: Dyna on April 16, 2016, 10:37:42 PM
Has anyone seen this before?
Not proof but mentions chemtrails.

H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2977

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;   

Interesting website
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies